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Sura 4:82 A Challenge
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Starjade
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Kayyam
you said: Starjade, You came here claiming to have all sorts of
evidence and yet you can't Starjade says: Actually Kayyam I came here challenging Islam with the Sura 4:82 challenge of the Koran and I have provided lists of errors that exist in the Koran that no muslim here has been able to dispute especially you. In fact you have avoided all those errors that exist in the Koran to babble about Maatkare who is none other than Nefure Hatshep who I spoke about all the Time. At no Time have you dared to speak on those other errors in the Koran such as Muhammad believing in Jesus and 11 Chapters of the Koran glorifying Jesus as being the Prophet that Jesus has claimed himself to being. Instead you babble on about Egyptian history and I add at no Time has your conversation been about the one who adopted Moses who was Nefure Hatshepsut. Kayyam you said:
I will give you a hint: history is located within history books. It
is actually necessary
Starjadse says: I will give you a hint as you are not someone
able to give me any advice. If Thutmose 1 gave birth to a daughter
and at a later Time marries that daughter off to her half brother who
assumes that title Thutmose 11. Then that person who has a father
by the Title Thutmose 1 is the same person in any history or book.
Maatkare by your own data had a father called Thutmose 1 and married
her half brother Thutmose 11. And so as Nefure Hatshepsut had
a father called Thutmose 1 and was married to her half brother who assumes
the Title Thutmoses 11. Well then that does make them the exact
same person which you have spent your Time disputing that she was not.
Starjade says: I have already used your evidence to prove the
Nefure Hatshepsut is your Maatkare. Why don�t you try and prove
that she is not. I do not happen to have staggering amounts of
Egyptian history books in my possession but anyone can clack Nefure
Hatshepsut into their search engine and learn that the daughter of Thutmoses
1 was called Nefure Hatshepsut. So I am not to blame for your
inept attitude and insistance that the first name you heard must be
the correct and only name for that same person. So blow it out
of your ear and move on. I need a good laugh when you Muslims try and
explain why Muhammad believed in Jesus and why 11 Chapters of the Koran
glorify Jesus as being the Prophet that Jesus has proclaimed himself
to being. Of course I know why you Muslims are too afraid to speak
on that matter especially as this is a Sura 4:82 challenge. Starjade says: Now hold that Camel a minute. I did my Data on Nefure Hatshepsut straight. So did the Muslim who gave me her name. And he was a very clever deep thinking scholar. He brought that name to me. Unlike you I then went to search for everything about Nefure Hatshepsut. I did not doubt that Muslim for he would not have spoken of her unless he knew she existed. So I learned all about Nefure Hatshepsut. Maatkare is just another name ascribed to her. Just as Ramesese was for the Pharaoh. Those Egyptian had a most curious history. As for Moses haha he was born long before I even got to this Planet. I came from the future not the past. Yet I know more about him than you do. I know more about his adoptive grandfather and his adoptive mother than you do. As a matter of fact I don�t even really give a dang about Moses at all. It was the Prophecy given to him by the living God that I have an interest in and what is more I just fulfilled it. Yet at
no Time during your arguments have your links even mentioned Moses.
It was clear none of those people even knew Nefure Maatkere :) had been
that one who adopted Moses and so then that shows thet were not very
diligent in researching their data. Many do link up to websites
that speak of Egyptian history and yet they are garbled from the truth.
Some take the words of others most easy. But I was faced with
the Sura 4:82 challenge and a pack of Muslims all ganged up against
me in a debate over who adopted Moses the wife or the daughter.
I cannot afford that luxury of error, as they would have jumped down
on me and torn my throat out with glee. It seems from an outside
observation that you got stuck on the family of Pharaohs instead of
finding out the question was the adoptive mother of Moses married at
that Time she adopted Moses. And she was not. She was not
the wife of any Pharaoh she was the daughter. So that error still exists
in the Koran and that was the point. The Koran made the error
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Kayyam 
Graduate Joined: 21 December 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Religion: Islam(Sunni) Posts: 1001 |
You are in deep doodoo now. The name Nefure comes from Wyatt, who is in idiot. If you want to continue using it then you will have to offer some proof. We cannot have a discussion about Moses in connection to some fictitious person named "Nefure".
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Kayyam you said: You are in deep doodoo now. The name Nefure comes from Wyatt, who is in idiot. Starjade says: Hahaha deep doodoo eh. Nah Starjade always comes up smelling of Roses. I am the ultimate apocalyptic King of the Castle. Why already you can see that Islam and the Koran and the claims of Muhammad have bitten the dust. I have actually recently been reading some of the stuff Wyatt has been writing and he sure as hell has got into some very interesting stuff. Too bad he did not research Christianity so well. He might have realise that fabricated religion has bitten the dust. That does put a dark side on his Christian beliefs. However Kayyam I did not get my data from Wyatt. His name just appeared on those links and his format was precise and tidy and simple to read. Sounds to me like you are obsessed in a shirky way. I got the name Nefure Hatshepsut from a Muslim and I gave a link to those conversations. That was where I first heard that name. I gotta say after reading some of Wyatts data I am very impressed at his staggering research. He covers allsorts of things. Of course I have been too busy writing to read it all but I am enticed to go back and re read what was said. He has the most remarkable details of things. I respect that dedication. Starjade concludes. And it is yoo hoo who are in deep doodoos hahaha after arguing Maatkare was the one who adopted Moses and named Thutmose 1 as her father and Thutmose 11 as her husband and proclaiming that was the one who adopted Moses whiles also before that claiming it was the wife of Ahmose 1 (sigh) make your mind up Kayyam anyways you opted for Maatkare. Anyways not being one to scoff (tee hee hee) but but but Nefure Hatshepsuts father :) was Thutmose 1 and her adoptive son Moses was Thutmoses 11 until he killed an Egyptian and had to flee Egypt. Thutmose 1 married Nefure Hatshepsut off to his concubines son who then became Thutmose 11 taking that Title from Moses. So Kayyam you cannot escape the fact that your Maatkare and Nefure Hatshepsut are the very same person. Come on admit it come on we all know now so admit it. Starjade was right all along. Now I could have told you that in the beginnings in fact I am most surprised that I didn�t. So you are the one here in deep doodoos. Kayyam you said: If you want to continue using it then you will have to offer some proof. We cannot have a discussion about Moses in connection to some fictitious person named "Nefure". Kayyam Starjade says: I have not invented the name Nefure Hatshepsut. She is a most famous person. And a Muslim gave me her name. Why even the famed Wyatt used her name so it is not a name I invented. Here are some other links all naming her. http://www.geocities.com/alstor/moses.html http://www.aloha.net/~mikesch/moses.htm I know what it is you tried researching and got sick of those Egyptian web sites. Yeah they do get annoying but that is the pound of flesh taken in research. You just have to bite you lip and carry on until you sift through all the data. Now did you search with Google alone eh. Hahaha well yahoo has search engines and there are many other search engines try to alternate. Hey try Jeeves and have a butler do it for you. Really think about it Kayyam I did already research this matter and Nefure Hatshepsut was the daughter of the Pharaoh Thutmoses 1 and not his wife. So the Koran does have that error and many more in its pages. Now you are probably all stressed from reading all that Egyptian yackle. So why not shelve it for a whiles and try and explain why Muhammad believed in Jesus and why 11 Chapters of the Koran believe and glorify Jesus as being the Prophet that Jesus has proclaimed himself as being. Now the Koran and Muhammad did not know., But Jesus claimed that he was that Deuteronomy Ch 18 v 15/18 Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up. That was why they called Jesus the King of the Jews. Now you Kayyam who is defending Islam in the Sura 4:82 challenge against challenges of the all powerful phenomenal Doomsday Prophet Starjade. Can you explain exactly which Prophet then is Muhammad claiming himself to being ? Isnt it a fact Muhammad claims to be the very same Prophet that he believes Jesus to be. Isnt it a fact that he claims he is that very same Prophet that the Koran glorifies Jesus as being in 11 Chapters of the Koran. Explain also why you do not see that 11 Chapters of the Koran that glorify Jesus as being that Prophet Jesus claimed himself as being as 11 Chapters of errors that exist in the Koran considering the proclamations of Muhammad. You can indulge in Egyptian history if you want but you Muslims cannot shirk away from those 11 Chapters of the Koran that stand against the laws of Moses and the word of God and the claims of Muhammad himself. When you speak of deep doodoos. Hahaha Islam waded in with confidence only to get bogged down in denial.
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| Starjade
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Kayyam
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No you are not that creative. Wyatt invented it.
No, you learned it from Wyatt.
Saying that over and over and over is not going to make it more true. You level of research is self evident. Kayyam
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Starjade says: I know the data he wrote about Nefure Hatshepsut is right as I researched the matter myself. So it is not a matter of belief but in knowing from my own research that was said was true. At least the most of it. He has certainly researched all manna of things. And I had not read his stuff before. I just clacked Nefure Hatshepsut into a search engine to show you links of Nefure Hatshepsut as you do not believe that she existed. After reading his research I would not discount him as being a quack. He raised some very interesting points. You�re just miffed because you were proven to be wrong. Oh by the way on some previous post I had not realised it was connected also to Wyatt. It had a logo that changes. I only briefly looked at the page.
Kayyam you say: I did no such thing Starjade says; Oh so now you are in denial eh, so explain who you think adopted Moses. And why you even mentioned Maatkare then who clearly is Nefure Hatshepsut. Huh?
Kayyam you said: Nor did I do that. Starjade says: I am sure you did doo in fact I am surprised you did not accuse uncle tom cobbly of adopting Moses there was so many names you put forwards. So now you admit then that Maatkare did not adopt Moses but Nefure Hatshepsut the daughter of the Pharaoh did.?
Starjade says: I tell you I did not get my data from Wyatt. I researched staggering amounts of Egyptian data. I was most irritated as they got dates and titles wrong. Tsk Tsk Tsk it was no easy task. I spent 3 days researching and that is a lot as I scan fast and am a fast learner. The Muslim I was writing to was astonishingly patient even though he did post some posts asking where I went. And yes Kayyam Thutmoses 1 was the father of the female who adopted Moses. That female was your Maatkare and my Nefure Hatshepsut. They are the same and that is who adopted Moses. Nefure Hatshepsut only became married after Moses killed the Egyptian and fled Egypt. He was then 40 years old. So at the Time Moses was adopted it was by the daughter of the Pharaoh not his wife. If she had been married I would have said that was so and shown the evidence. But she was not married at that Time.
And what's your beef with Wyatt. He seems a most sensible fellow
apart from his delusions about Christianity. His data is correct
and concise and you must have endured the blabber of Egyptian historians
who cannot agree on the simplest things. I thought Wyatts website
was most informative. I don�t believe his ark thing but it was
interesting all the same.
Starjade says: Nefure Hatshepsut did have daughters one was called
Neferura she was Thuthmose II's daughter who died. Merira-Hatshepset
was said to be a second daughter I think she had three daughters; It
was irrelevant data at that time so I do not recall. A Muslim
called Hanifan named Nefure Hatshepsut to me as the wife of the Pharaoh
who adopted Moses. How can you say no such person called Nefure
Hatshepsut exists when you see people speaking of Nefure Hatshepsut?
And on varying links. A Muslim gave me that name are you saying
he lied. But he did not and I researched Nefure Hatshepsut under
that name and she is spoke of everywhere.
Kayyam you say: No you are not that creative. Wyatt invented it. Starjade says: I got the name from a Muslim called hanifan and I gave you a link to that place where he named her. I researched her by that name. I had never heard of Nefure Hatshepsut before that Time. I did not know the name of the one who adopted Moses at that Time. It was of no interest to me. The conversations about Nefure Hatshepsut came from those discussions and from researching the claim that Hanifan had made that the daughter of the Pharaoh was also married to a Pharaoh at that Time she adopted Moses. But upon research she was not married. That name was not invented by Wyatt for many speak of Nefure Hatshepsut. Perhaps you think there is a conspiracy.
Kayyam you said: No, you learned it from Wyatt. Starjade says: No I learned that name from a Muslim called Hanifan and I did research Nefure Hatshepsut under that name.
Starjade says: Dang it I just checked and you are right. Sorry my error. I did not look that closely. Sheeesh Wyatt sure gets about.
Kayyam you said; Saying that over and over and over is not going to make it more true. You level of research is self evident. Kayyam Starjade says: Listen to you talk. No matter what the name it was the daughter of Thutmoses 1 who adopted Moses and she was not married at that Time. So the error still exists in the Koran. I did research a lot of data on Egyptian history and they all named Nefure Hatshepsut as the one who adopted Moses. The name was not invented. However it matters not because the fact still exists that it was the daughter of the Pharaoh who adopted Moses and she was not married to any Pharaoh at that Time. She was not anyone�s wife. In fact even at that Time her father Thutmoses 1 was only a co regent not the main ruling Pharaoh. So it was the daughter of the Pharaoh who adopted Moses and she was not married to any Pharaoh at that Time and only became married when Moses was over 40 years old. The Koran made the error it was the daughter not the wife who adopted Moses and that makes the Old Testament correct in its statements and that makes the Koran wrong.
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| silkworm
Graduate Joined: 14 December 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Religion: Islam(Muslim) Posts: 1081 |
Silkworm says to Starjade: I love you starjade from the heart of my bottom, now go away.....shooo Starjade says to Silkworm: Sorry, me go amigo!!!
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| Starjade
Senior Member Joined: 28 February 2006 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Online Religion: None Posts: 417 |
I have never understood
this love thy fellow man thing. Where i come from such people
are called gay. So now we all know what hole a silkworm crawls
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inevitabletruth
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Hi Starjade After reading your posts it appears to me that You have a disease in medical terms known as �Hallucination�. Better shall check with a well known psychiatrist in your area And one of the symptoms under this condition are hearing voices while no one is there and sighting people not around you. Or the part of your brain which handles �Inductive Reasoning� seems heavily distorted. In both cases you need a psychiatrist. I don�t think any one can help you on discussion forums. or can make you feel better. Please Note you will get 500$ from me if you get a clearance certificate from a psychiatrist showing that you are free of the two diseases I have stated above. This is an open challenge. You will scan the certificate and will publish it here along the doctor name, address and phone number to contact. Once its verified that you are free of this disease I will pay you 500$ from my personal account. Plus the visit cost to the psychiatrist.And this offer is valid till 7 days. That can be extended upon your request. Make sure you tell him upon your visit the following which you publish all the time.
"The End of Times Doomsday Prophet Bye To all the muslim brothers and sister. This is to advise the person(Starjade) you are communicating with is a psychic patient. Please Show your sympathies and do not mind his talks.or If there is any psychiatrist on this forum please help this guy. thank you all
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hafsa
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as per my promise, i'm giving the following, although i no longer felt the need to address here. Qualities of Prophets True Prophets were human beings. They lived like normal people. They had some extra ordinary qualities of virtue right from birth. They were pious, and lead a neat and clean life. Their children were always from their wives. They always spoke nothing but the Truth. They were sober, they never did name calling at anyone. (no tsk, tsk� or nose gue or ha ha was their style) Instead, if anyone called them bad, or insane or against the norms of society, they were patient. Two of the most noble Prophets gave a constitution each which was given to them from Allah, that is Shariat of Prophet Moosa (A.S) which was to be carried further by the followers of Prophet Eesaa (A.S) too, and that of Prophet Mohammad (Sal Allaho Alehey Wassalam). They were humble. They were not their own lawyers through researching into their selected books or in their selected styles. None of them died and got reborn, with the uncertainty of being reborn, or being in outer space. All claimed to be from the same One God, Allah, who causes life, and everything else and was of course always there. They advocated each other. After the last Prophet Mohammad (Sal Allaho Alehey Wassalam) came with a Devine Book, in which Allah has said that TODAY THE DEEN IS COMPLETED and said the Prophet Mohammad (Sal Allaho Alehey Wassalam) that there will be no Prophet after me, all those who make any claims of Prophethood, are false to certainty.
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| Kayyam
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Starjade, |
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Inevitabletruth you say: Hi Starjade Starjade says: Well hello there Inevitabletruth Inevitabletruth you say: After reading your posts it appears to me that You have a disease in medical terms known as �Hallucination�. Starjade says: An Hallucination is not called a disease in any medical book. I am not even sure any doctor could truly define �Hallucination�. Some things need to be seen rather than be explained. Inevitabletruth you say: Better shall check with a well known psychiatrist in your area And one of the symptoms under this condition are hearing voices while no one is there and sighting people not around you. Starjade says: I have studied and read every book by Freud and Jung and Pavlov and so I do know a great deal about the human brain. I am not in need of a Psychiatrist I am perfectly sane. Saner than most of you after all you believe in false Prophets even when evidence shows tou are wrong and you worship the moon and you snort water up your Nostril to blast out some Devil that a man who admitted he was mad had said lives up the noses of all Muslims and you all believe there are angels living in the sky making bonfires which is where Muslims think clouds come from Tsk Tsk Tsk. I could go on but thinking of the Islamic explanation for Thunder and Lightening has caused me to convulse with laughter. And what you talk of sanity. Inevitabletruth you say: Or the part of your brain which handles �Inductive Reasoning� seems heavily distorted. Starjade says: As a Child after reading into Freud and Jung and Pavlov I grew bored and entered into genetics and lobotomy. However as an adept astral traveler I know the mind is not in the brain. It just appears that way. And hey I challenged the Christians and they bit the dust and I challenged the Muslims and they bit the dust. My reasoning is most staggering in fact perhaps astonishing is the better word. Inevitabletruth you say: In both cases you need a psychiatrist. I don�t think any one can help you on discussion forums. or can make you feel better. Starjade says: Oh I know an army of Shiite Muslims can do something for me that would make me feel so much better. I will recognize them by a mark on their forehead. My Jihads are rather more hard core than they are used to but they will like my ideas. Revenge can be so sweet. It may not put certain matters right but it will make me feel better. Oh and by the way why do you in your self opinions think that I need a Psychiatrist after all my words are sound logic and you Muslims do not seem to be able to defend your religious beliefs from them. And did you snort that water up to expel that Devil up your nose this morning. Right then so do not presume to speak to me on insanity until you have looked into your own problems. Inevitabletruth you say: Please Note you will get 500$ from me if you get a clearance certificate from a psychiatrist showing that you are free of the two diseases I have stated above. This is an open challenge. Starjade says: I can make millions of millions from my God given Revelations and potentially billions from my DVD�s of the actual apocalypse. And what you offer chicken feed hahaha. Tell you what you answer to those errors that exist in the Koran and we shall see who is mad eh. ? Now that is an already existing open challenge and if you are a Christian {tee hee} well be sure you cannot defend the false Prophet Jesus either. I can back my mouth up but you cannot and so it is you who is insane. Blasphemous too. Inevitabletruth you say: You will scan the certificate and will publish it here along the doctor name, address and phone number to contact. Once its verified that you are free of this disease I will pay you 500$ from my personal account. Starjade says: Well no doubt you think that is generous. Hahaha tell you what why don�t you Muslims make a right big fuss over Starjade and dare your Imams and religious leaders to accuse me of Blasphemy. I can make millions of millions far faster and you can keep your chicken feed for when the bird flu is over. Inevitabletruth you say: Plus the visit cost to the psychiatrist.And this offer is valid till 7 days. That can be extended upon your request. Make sure you tell him upon your visit the following which you publish all the time. Starjade says: I live in Britain we get free health care here. Thing is I am not often ill. I do have a tear on my heart wall though which is slowly killing me and so maybe I will not be long for this world. You can all live in hope eh. Inevitabletruth you say:
"The End of Times Doomsday Prophet Starjade says; And don�t any of you ever forget that is who it is I can be proven by Deuteronomy law to be. A real live Prophet with a provable connection to the living God. And here is a link that explains what that proof is. http://www.geocities.com/end_of_times/chaptertwo.htm Inevitabletruth you say: Bye Starjade says: Bye then call again should you pass by spare moments farm. Inevitabletruth you say: To all the muslim brothers and sister. This is to advise the person(Starjade) you are communicating with is a psychic patient. Starjade says: Now you call yourself Inevitabletruth and then you tell bare faced lies tsk tsk tsk�.. Your credibility just got flushed. Everyone here knows I am the Doomsday Prophet Starjade the lord King of the Apocalyptic Castle. And I have Sura 4:82 challenged the whole of Islam. If they speak it should be pertaining to those matters. Tsk tsk tsk��. Inevitabletruth you say: Please Show your sympathies and do not mind his talks.or If there is any psychiatrist on this forum please help this guy. thank you all Starjade
says: After I have destroyed the religious beliefs of Christianity
and Islam then why would any be deserving of sympathy other than those
who lost and could not defend their religion from my powerful challenges.
Are you men or mice.? Of course Muslims and Christians are going
to mind as I tear down the foundations of their fabricated religions.
No need to thank me after all I am also just a messenger. And
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hafsa you said: as per my promise, i'm giving the following, although i no longer felt the need to address here. Starjade says: There is no point in being miffed Hafsa. We were simply debating the matter and if you found error in my words then say so and if it is seen there is not error then accept that and change. You not writing does not make these matters go away. It is going to be better for Muslims to discuss these matters with me and under Islamic law than to have it unleashed as a surprise when my writings go to publications. Hey you got rid of one error didn�t you and so feel some pride. There are only another 500 and odd to go. But the thing is you could not explain away or account for those other errors in the Koran and we all know what the Sura 4;82 states. Do they not consider the Koran with care for if it had come from any other than Allah then surely they would have found much discrepancy therein? Which I certainly have haven�t I and so the matter is self-concluding. hafsa you said: Qualities of Prophets True Prophets were human beings. They lived like normal people. Starjade says: I am an Alien resident but I am also a human. I am inside a human body. A most handsome one I might add for you girls out there. I can blend in and yet I do prefer to walk in shadows and my life still is never going to be normal and so you must be speaking about ordinary Prophets. Can we have some proof that they were Prophets please. ? hafsa you said: They had some extra ordinary qualities of virtue right from birth. Starjade says; Aw wow that is me down to a tee. I have the most extra ordinary qualities. Why I am much loved you know. Why even my enemies like me now and then. hafsa you said: They were pious, and lead a neat and clean life. Their children were always from their wives. Starjade says Nonesense who has told you these things. You have just made that up. Take Isaaha for instance a well known acclaimed Prophet even though I was never that impressed. He walked around naked for 3 years looking for signs from God and he believed in Unicorns. Ohwoo hoo that is flying well over the cuckoos nest. And if a naked man walked up to you saying he was looking for signs from god you would smack him in the gob. hafsa you said: They always spoke nothing but the Truth. Starjade says: I am most truthful. In fact I find it entertaining that the true things I speak of sound so unbelievable. But face it anyone can tell a lie. Especially humans. hafsa you said: They were sober, they never did name calling at anyone. (no tsk, tsk� or nose gue or ha ha was their style) Starjade says: Hahaha I knew you were inventing these things. Actually I do not go out drinking but it can be good to get off your box now and then. And the living God did give us the plant kingdom to enhance our extra sensory perceptions. And it is nose goo by the way. It is a funny expression isn�t it. hafsa you said: Instead, if anyone called them bad, or insane or against the norms of society, they were patient. Starjade says; Oh and I am too most astonishingly patient it comes from waiting for relies from Dr. Deen. I am still waiting by the way. I liked his last post as it was informative. He does not say a lot but when he does it is extraordinary. Giving me much food for thought. hafsa you said: Two of the most noble Prophets gave a constitution each which was given to them from Allah, that is Shariat of Prophet Moosa (A.S) which was to be carried further by the followers of Prophet Eesaa (A.S) too, and that of Prophet Mohammad (Sal Allaho Alehey Wassalam). Starjade says: Well Moses did not do that much Prophesying that I know about. He did give Prophesies from the living God but that was Gods Prophecies. As for Muhammad why not list out his Prophecies and be very careful for you just know I will have been given them by other Muslims before and shall dissect them and establish by the Sura 4:82 challenge that Muhammad is not a Prophet at all despite your claims. hafsa you said: They were humble. Starjade says; false Prophets need to be in fear they are caught out. I am something different. A Shepherd does not humble himself to the sheep he herds. He must take command. hafsa you said: They were not their own lawyers through researching into their selected books or in their selected styles. Starjade says: hahaha once again I see that subtle dig at Starjade. Hey shoot the lawyers they are mainly parasites anyway. And the law of Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 is a law that was brought down from the living God and is Gods word and so the living God is my lawyer and my Judge. hafsa you said: None of them died and got reborn, with the uncertainty of being reborn, or being in outer space. Starjade says: Ah well what would you know after all you have been believing in the false prophets. I have been reborn and I have flown astrally in outer space and even flew to this planet albeit by accident under my own power. And then after resurrecting mine own dead body I went forth and performed a miracle right here on earth and Prophesied real genuine earthquakes and volcanoes erupting. And Prophesied those grave events to a room full of witnesses. Their Testimonies as you well know can establish by Deuteronomy Law that I am a Prophet with a provable connection to the living God. So that makes me special then doesn�t it. The Chosen one is bound to be different from any other. That re birth by the way when considered does make me a son of the Living God. hafsa you said: All claimed to be from the same One God, Allah, who causes life, and everything else and was of course always there. Starjade says: Moses did not speak of the pagan moon god hubal al�ilah nor any Old Testament Prophets. hafsa you said: They advocated each other. Starjade says: Now that is true and that was a mistake on their part. Note I do not advocate any so called Prophet of the past. Why would I. I used Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 law to establish I was a Prophet with a provable connection to the living God and I do stand against all those false pretenders to my Thorne and demand you produce proof to your claims whiles knowing full well that you cannot and by now Hafsa you know that also. hafsa you said: After the last Prophet Mohammad (Sal Allaho Alehey Wassalam) came with a Devine Book, in which Allah has said that TODAY THE DEEN IS COMPLETED and said the Prophet Mohammad (Sal Allaho Alehey Wassalam) that there will be no Prophet after me, all those who make any claims of Prophethood, are false to certainty. Starjade says: The Sura 4:82 of the Koran states Do they not consider the Koran with care for if it had come from any other than Allah then surely they would have found much discrepancy therein. I have listed many errors that are found in the Koran and can tell you I have many more waiting. Starjades 21 errors found in the Koran are undisputed. Muslims have an impossible task as the Koran is proven by the many errors found in the Koran to not be a book from God as Muhammad has claimed. That proves Muhammads word is not reliable. It in fact disproves the claims of Muhammad and shows Muhammad was presumptuous to think that he could speak in Gods name. As for his being a Prophet well then bring on what you think is the proof and be very careful as Islamic experts already have spoken on those issues. It is clear Muhammad is not the Prophet that you think him to being. Certainly it is established by the words of the Koran that Muhammad is not a Prophet from God but even as an ordinary walking around prophet Muhammad is still unestablished. I remind you of the blasphemous Jews who believed a golden calf was God. So humans make the most pathetic claims. Remind yourself of rank here and Moses is the most powerful holder of Rank. I outrank Moses for I am the Chosen one Moses Prophesied about. To me the living God said you must hearken.
Now face this fact that Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 law is a law brought
down by Moses from the living God and so it is the actual word of the
living God. The laws of the living God establish by religious
law that I am a Prophet with a provable connection to the living God.
So that makes Muhammad a liar then doesn�t it. The Living Gods
word and the living Gods law establish I am a Prophet with a provable
connection to the living God. Nobody on this Planet can argue
against the Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 law of the living God because it
is Gods word. So that silences all your claims then doesn�t it.
And by
the way. A Prophet Prophesizes the future. That is
what makes a Prophet. As to the power of that prophet well that
depends on what he/she prophesizes. And the living God can send
as many Prophets to this Planet as the living God wants. But there
is only ONE PROPHET on this Planet that is established to have come
from the living God and that is the much loved Deuteronomy Doomsday
Prophet Starjade. And you can be sure Hafsa that I am the only
Lord King of this apocalyptic Castle from now and beyond the End of
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Kayyam you said: Starjade You have evidently not researched the history of Egypt as much as you claim. You have made a lot of errors, which you only grudgingly admit. Starjade says: There is no error. I did study through staggering amounts of Egyptian data on this subject of who adopted Moses. The history of that period is a much spoke about subject and it was a chore to wade through it all. I did all that way back in 2004 which is why my mind is not as fresh on that subject as it once was. As I have said I was given the name Hatshepsut from a Muslim and he said that was the daughter of Thutmoses 1. My research showed it was but she was called by other names. That is your Maatkare and my Nefure. Many people have different names for that same person. It is however the very same person no matter who names her whatever. However the daughter of Thutmose the 1 was the one who adopted Moses and she was not married at that Time. She only became married after Moses killed the Egyptian and fled Egypt some 40 odd years later. So it was the daughter of the Pharaoh who adopted Moses not the wife. Kayyam you
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Starjade says: The Old Testament does not name the Pharaohs daughter and neither does the Koran as far as I know. But Egyptian history clearly has many names and that woman who adopted Moses is written into Egyptian history. As you know {cough} the Pharaoh Thutmose 1 daughter had no male children and yet there is a statue of her with a male child who was her adoptive son Moses. I do not doubt some Exodus did take place. However, I was not around in those Times. So I can only read the claims of those who were.
Kayyam you said: Starjade says: I disagree. The Old Testament which spoke of Moses being adopted by the Pharaohs daughter differs from the account in the Koran which claims it was the wife of the Pharaoh who adopted Moses. Now Pharaoh was a Title of a ruler in Egypt even to a co regent and not to the main King Pharaoh. Had The daughter of Thutmose 1 been married that would have explained the statement in the Koran. It could have been the Pharaohs wife as well as the daughter. But she was not married at that Time and so it could not be possible for her to have been a Pharaohs wife until Moses was some 40 years old. This does mean the Old Testaments account is correct apart from the fact Thutmose 1 was not the main ruling Pharaoh which the Old Testament implies and was only a co regent. And it shows also that the Koran is in error to claim it was the wife of the Pharaoh. It is the periods of time that do not match up. How many Pharaohs were ruling in Egypt at that Time. As far as a I know there was only one main ruling King Pharaoh with a co regent to take over in the days of his dying.
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Of course everyone already knew The Deuteronomy Doomsday Prophet
Starjade is the only Lord King of this apocalyptic Castle. 
Everyone else was just bound to bite the Dust. 
