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Sura 4:82. A Tough Challenge for Islam.

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Posted: 28 April 2006 at 5:51am

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Starjade says:  Dont you have some hole in the ground to crawl into Silkworm.?

 

 

 

 

 

Silkworm says to Starjade: Hey I am an earthling, take me to your leader!!!

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Posted: 28 April 2006 at 5:59am

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silkworm says to starjade:   Buddy, I don't want to sound disrespectful to ya but why are you allowing your body to write a check your behind can't cash???

Starjade says to silkworm: Poooof, I am gone

 

 

Yeay, Thanks man!!!


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Posted: 28 April 2006 at 6:01am

My leader is the Living God.  The living God gave birth to me.  I am an Alien resident here on earth.  Your own leaders I have no interest in.  But your religious leaders.  Well I do have uses for them.  As long as they do give themselves up truly to the living God of Abraham and of Moses and of Starjade. 

I do not tolerate false God worshippers. 

Of course if you want to pay a visit to my leader who is the living God then you must live in the hope that you have no evil in your Soul or that just would not be possible.  Even then you would have to die for such an encounter.  Just as I once did.  But Death is not the final end for as you see I am still here standing as the Lord King of this apocalyptic castle.  Nobody else could wear my shoes and those who come up against me always bite the Dust.   


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And you are welcome by the way.

 


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Posted: 28 April 2006 at 6:04am

Have you noticed those Muslims have gone a shirking yet again.   Either they have their Kuffar heads buried deep in the sand which is most probable or it is that I have as usual given them much food for thought  Nobody will be forgetting the days of the Doomsday Prophet Starjades visitation.  It seems i was just bound to cause a great gnashing of teeth.

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Posted: 28 April 2006 at 8:38am

So, starjade, according to you, who's book should we be following?  What is the true religion, if there even is one.

 

 


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Posted: 28 April 2006 at 8:54am

I personally think that if you have something inside of you hurting, better get some surgery done on it right now, or it will go bad - BTW Scruggie is asking the same question I had in mind, any Idea??? 

 

 


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Posted: 28 April 2006 at 7:49pm

Starjade,

Those links you gave me all come from the same source: Ron Wyatt. I quote, "Ronald Eldon Wyatt (1933 - August 4, 1999) was a controversial self-styled archaeologist (he had no training in the discipline and held no professional position) who claimed to have found many significant biblical sites and artifacts."

He has published all sorts of trash that no real archeologist has accepted. I guess that shows us how uncritical you are of your sources.

I have given you 5 different sources that all agree that Maatkare was the one female pharoah of Egypt. If you cannot even get this fact straight there is no point in us going any further with this.

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Posted: 29 April 2006 at 4:36am

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So, starjade, according to you, who's book should we be following?  What is the true religion, if there even is one.

 

 

Starjade says:  Well now i suggest that you follow no false Prophets or books that do not come from the living God.  However the Old Testament does contain the actual word of the living God and it is only the living God you should give worship too or follow. 

The Christians new Testament is a fraud and so their bull cannot be heeded.  The Koran is established as not coming from God and so that cannot be heeded.  I would say travel your paths in the same eway as a Buddhist and yet only give worship to the living God which is the living White Sphere that lives beyond the Veil of the Abyss in deep space.

If you are a religious person do not take any book as an absolute doctrine but study them all to understand how humans think.  In doing so you realise those who are misled against those who are not.  Religious doctrines are only created as moral guides and not as a creed of the living Gods.  In whole your question is a tough one even for me to answer. 


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Posted: 29 April 2006 at 4:43am

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I personally think that if you have something inside of you hurting, better get some surgery done on it right now, or it will go bad - BTW Scruggie is asking the same question I had in mind, any Idea??? 

 

 

The Crown of England and those working on its services put my children in a grave situation and when they discovered my plans to save the lives of Muslims Christians and Jews world wide they plotted to bereave me of my children.  So yes I have a great pain inside of me.  There is a penalty of Blasphemy on the Crown of England and all who wear that Crown and those working on its services.  However, these religious matters would have had to take place.  The living God has said we must not follow false Prophets or false Gods. 

I can say that the Old Testament has been authenticated as being true.  By many things.  However I am not a Jew and you may not be either.  But that does not mean we cannot follow the living God in fact it is expected that we should.  There is only one living God, which is the living White Sphere that lives beyond the Veil of the Abyss in deep space.  There can therefore be only one religion in the worship of the one true living God. 


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Posted: 29 April 2006 at 5:48am

Kayyam you say:  Starjade,  Those links you gave me all come from the same source: Ron Wyatt. I quote, "Ronald Eldon Wyatt (1933 - August 4, 1999) was a Controversial self-styled archaeologist (he had no training in the discipline and held no professional position) who claimed to have found many significant biblical sites and artifacts."

Starjade says:  Actually not all those links come from the same source.  He was an archeologist and also talks as if he is a Christian believer.  However he noticed something that I also noticed.  Egyptologists and historians were all giving out incorrect and conflicting data.  So clearly he looked at the evidence himself and there is then only one conclusion that can be found.  The data he gave on Nefure Hatshepsut is correct as I also researched through staggering amounts of data on Egypt and that period of Time and on Nefure Hatshepsut. 

I did not get my data from Ronald Eldon Wyatt.  He is just another website that diligently studied Nefure Hatshepsut and came to that same conclusion.  I gave more than two links to such web sites with that data o9n Nefure Hatshepsut.

I was looking to see if Nefure Hatshepsut was married at that Time and she was not.  I gave his link as the way he put that data was precise and clear and it is correct.  I also gave another link.  There are many websites where this data on Nefure Hatshepsut is existing I just showed you the simplest as you made it clear you could not accept what I have said as being true and yet others also studied the history of Nefure Hatshepsut and came to exactly the same conclusions as I did.  And I add some of his data also varies from mine but it depends on a point of view and the data being researched. 

Kayyam you say:  He has published all sorts of trash that no real archeologist has accepted. I guess that shows us how uncritical you are of your sources.

Starjade says:  He has published data that is correct and name those archeologists and show where they are disputing his words on Nefure Hatshepsut. ? I know his data is correct for I also researched that matter myself.  There is a lot of data about Nefure Hatshepsut on the Internet and all argue and disagree with each other.  I know for a fact his comments on Nefure Hatshepsut are correct as I also researched that matter myself and not from his data either. 

His was just one of two links I gave in fact I gave links to many other websites that you ignored.  The point I was making is that others have studied Nefure Hatshepsut and came to the exact same conclusions on that history and on that one who adopted Moses as I did from my research.  That means when they did investigate those matters they would see the Historians were all writing conflicting data that could not be relied upon and so they research all the data to make sense of that period of Time and the people they were speaking about.  His findings were genuine and it is too bad his Christian beliefs have clouded his Judgment on other issues.  But we were speaking of who adopted Moses and whether she was married at that Time and she was not.

Kayyam you said:  I have given you 5 different sources that all agree that Maatkare was the one female pharaoh of Egypt. If you cannot even get this fact straight there is no point in us going any further with this. Kayyam

Starjade says:  First of all your links did not even speak of who adopted Moses, which was the topic of conversation.  Second point I forgot all about Cleopatra.  Clearly then there have been other females of such distinctions.  As for Maatkare.  Some say her body was found others say it vanished. Here is a another link to your name of Ancient Egypt Maatkare Hatshepsut  Now note something here on who it is said to be the mother and father of Maatkare Hatshepsut and bear in mind that Hatshepsut is an Egyptian title not a name.

Hatshepsut was the daughter of the Pharaoh Tuthmosis I and Queen Ahmose, both of royal lineage. It says so in mostly all links.  The father of Nefure Hatshepsut was Thutmoses 1 /Amenhotep 1 who was called Pharaoh but was only the co regent to Pharaoh Ahmosis who lived in Thebes in Memphis. The Pharaoh Ahmosis was the main ruler of Egypt and so Thutmoses 1 /Amenhotep 1. would only be the main ruling Pharaoh after the death of the Pharaoh Ahmosis.

Nefure was the only surviving daughter of Thutmoses 1 / Amenhotep 1. Nefure she convinced her father to make her little adopted child Moses his future heir. So Moses was set up to become the future King of all Egypt. Moses became known as Senmut which means mothers brother.

Now then Kayyam the Egyptians have many varying names and yet it does seem clear that Maatkare is none other than Nefure Hatshepsut.  Due to who her father was and to whom she married.  And I add.  Moses was called Semnut and also Thutmoses 11 but when he killed the Egyptian he had to flee Egypt for it was a death sentence to kill an Egyptian.  Hence Nefure Hatshepsut was married to her half brother who took over that Title of Thutmoses 11 and of course it is logical he would also be Thutmoses 111 as well.

Now your links do not speak of who adopted Moses.  They all blabber out different data on this and that yet they all agree as to who was the father of  Maatkare Hatshepsut which was Thutmoses 1 /Amenhotep 1.  To prevent the loss of the Crown to another family Thutmoses 1 / Amenhotep 1. Who clearly was still alive otherwise Moses would have been crowned King Pharaoh. Thutmoses 1 / Amenhotep 1. married his daughter off to her younger half brother Thutmose who became called Thutmose the 11 and that was how Nefure Hatshepsut became married. 

So it is clear then that your Maatkare is none other than Nefure Hatshepsut.  She was the daughter of the ruling King Pharaoh not his wife.  Study the data yourself if you doubt me. 

So come on Kayyam say those immortal words.  Starjade is still the only King of this apocalyptic Castle and there is an error still in the Koran. And I gotta say again.  The Old Testament and the Koran both agree that Moses existed and that shall we say a relative which we all know was the daughter Nefure Hatshepsut) adopted Moses.  Yet not of your links even mention that fact.  And it was her husband who faced Moses and the power of the living God.  Yet none of your self opinionated reporters on those past Egyptians even mentioned those matters which is what these conversations were about.

So does that answer your question. 
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Posted: 29 April 2006 at 6:26am

 

Well what have you got to say then huh?

Egyptian history sure can gnash teeth to the gums. 

Yool soon be calling out crying for your mummy.


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Posted: 29 April 2006 at 7:09am

 

And so after you spent all that Time arguing with the much loved Doomsday Prophet Starjade and also scoffing at the archeologist Ronald Eldon Wyatt.  in the very end you have just admitted that the data we have been giving is genuine.  Because your Maatkare is none other than Nefure Hatshepsut.  Hatshepsut as i have pointed out is an Egyptian Tiltle.

Well now that does answer those questions eh. 


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Posted: 30 April 2006 at 12:28am

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Actually not all those links come from the same source.

 

 


Yes they do. There are 3 links. They all come from Wyatt. Two of them are from wyattnewsletters.com and the third is just a copy of a wyatt article - with sections of it being exactly the same as the other two. You are not very discerning.

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He was an archeologist and also talks as if he is a Christian believer.

 

 


No he was not an archeologist, he was a crackpot who went on quixotic fake expeditions for Biblical relics. No reputed architect in the world supports him.

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The data he gave on Nefure Hatshepsut is correct as I also researched through staggering amounts of data on Egypt and that period of Time and on Nefure Hatshepsut.

 

 


I am less than staggered by the amount of data you have presented here - just the rantings of one crackpot evangelical architect. Put up or shut up.

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I did not get my data from Ronald Eldon Wyatt.

 

 


Oh then pray tell me your source.

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I gave more than two links to such web sites with that data o9n Nefure Hatshepsut.

 

 


No you haven't. Everything you have given is from one source - Wyatt. I have given you 5 sources, including the BBC and Wikipedia.

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First of all your links did not even speak of who adopted Moses, which was the topic of conversation.

 

 


Lets get the most basic of facts squared away before moving on to Moses. Those sources did not discuss Moses because there are no contemporary accounts of him whatsoever - sorry the Bible was written centuries later.

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Second point I forgot all about Cleopatra.  Clearly then there have been other females of such distinctions.

 

 


She was not pharoah.

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Now then Kayyam the Egyptians have many varying names and yet it does seem clear that Maatkare is none other than Nefure Hatshepsut.

 

 


That is quite a variation! From Maatkare to Nefure? No, what is clear is that you made a mistake with the names and are now back pedaling desperately. Maatkare had a daughter named Nefrure who did not live beyond childhood.

Once we have this matter straightened out we may move on to Moses.

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