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Starjade to iris: Phew that was a lot of text you wrote and it was most informative. You certainly do digest a lot of information. I took it home on disc to read later and it took a while but now that task is done. I would think many here would bypass the data as its content is long yet in my view all Muslims here bragging the brag for islam should read the statement you have written as it educates them on their religious beliefs. Of course I think Muslims will just scan a few words and not learn what their religion is about or the flaws existing therein but then I do not believe that most Muslims are that religious to even care. I myself try and keep my text as short as possible in the expectance that Muslims either know what I am speaking about or will research what I had said. The Muslim lommmoool claims he does not know of the pagan moon god Hubal al�ilah yet I do not believe him. He is just embarrassed of his Islamic belief in such a foolish thing as worshipping a moon god which is clearly not the living God of Abraham or of Moses. At least now there are no excuses as that data is there for him and all others to see for themselves. Iris you said: Now, lommmoool it is time for you to act and leave false worship and become a genuine (true) Christian -- NOT an apostate (counterfeit) Christian.
Starjade says: Speaking of errors found and a reason to walk away from a false religion when it is proven to be false think on this. It is the wise to leave the Roman catholic Church as they are a most blasphemous people of all Christians along with the protestant church of England. However you did not leave Christianity but remained as a Christian Minister. This is my question to you and all who have a religion. How can any of you say that you are religious and yet all of you ignore religious law right from the beginnings. The law I am speaking of is my favorite law the law of Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15. One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: At the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established. This is a witness law that is determines matters of the truth especially about statements that could be deemed as being blasphemous or sinful. It is not a matter for your own personal opinion. Even if nobody wanted to believe the evidence that is presented. If that law is fulfilled, then legally it is binding and should stand good according to religious law. So then the Jews of who�s religion it is we speak speaking from Old Testament text where the Deuteronomy law exists. Do not accept either Jesus or Muhammad as being that Deuteronomy Ch 18 v 15/18 Prophet that the living God promised Moses he would raise up. Logic also states that as the living God only promised to raise up one Prophet not two then either Jesus or Muhammad have to be lying. One or both must be making fraudulent claims as it is obvious the living God only promised to raise up one Prophet not two. So then clearly here amongst the Testimonies of Jesus and Muhammad one or both must be guilty of a crime of iniquity and sin. In such a crime Two or Three witnesses must appear for or against the accused and if we had two Christians and Two Muslims what two or three witness Testimonies could they provide to establish by Deuteronomy law that either Jesus or Muhammad were in fact who they are claiming themselves to being. It is hardly rocket science that if neither has any witness Testimonies that can prove their claims then they are found guilty of Blasphemy and in accordance with a law brought down from the living God by Moses himself. Muhammad believed in Jesus and 11 Chapters of the Koran glorify Jesus as being the Prophet that Jesus has proclaimed himself as being which as a Christian you know (but Muhammad did not) you know the Prophet that Jesus has proclaimed himself as being is that Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up. Yet Muhammad has proclaimed himself as being that Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up and the Koran glorifies Muhammad also as being that Prophet. So the Koran glorifies Jesus and Muhammad as being the Prophet that they have proclaimed themselves as being even though they are both claiming themselves to being that specific Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up. This is a very serious error in the Koran especially as the living God only promised to raise up only one Prophet and Deuteronomy law establishes that it was not Jesus or Muhammad as they do not have any witnesses to their claims. The law of Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 is clear on matters of iniquity and sin. You need two or three witnesses to prove a thing is true and any religious preacher or religious leader or follower of religious doctrines has access to the law of Deuteronomy and can see that no witnesses exist for Jesus or Muhammad and that law then says they are guilty of crimes of iniquity and sin and someone has been misleading the congregations. Another matter where these things are of importance is that the living God has said we must not follow false Prophets or worship false Gods. So then when someone claims that they are prophets of the living God then we must always make diligent inquisition to determine the truth otherwise we would share that iniquity and that sin by following those false Prophets and worshipping the Gods of those false Prophets imaginations. After all those false Prophets are then presumptuous to think that they could speak in the name of the living God. You already know I accuse Jesus and Muhammad of iniquity and sin and they are found guilty of those crimes because they have no proof no evidence and no witnesses to back their claims up. So a Muslim cannot give up Islam and become a Christian and a Christian cannot give up Christianity to become a Muslim as both religions have bitten the dust and follow proven by religious law false Prophets who are established to not come from God by Deuteronomy law which is a law brought down by Moses from the living God himself.
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Iris you Said: Hi LommmoolI notice in going back away that one, Starjade, told you a lot as follows:
Iris you continued: What did you fail to learn from it? Starjade may not use the best of language at all times but is a well respected Islamic scholar. Starjade says: What do you mean best of language ? Tsk and there was me thinking I was another Shakespeare :) (sigh) Yes I have learned a lot about Islam and I am sure as I eat Muslims for breakfast as my Islamic teacher used to do then Muslims also are going to be realizing that. Of course they are bound to gnash their teeth in a moan hoping to hang onto their pipedreams but they know my words stand true. Too many Islamic experts have come up against me attempting to prove my word wrong and failed and that makes a big big point. You Muslims should not forget the uncanny Doomsday Prophet Starjade came to you all using Islamic law and the Sura 4:82 of the Koran and your Islamic religion just bit the dust. It was that easy. And I did warn you Muslims in the beginnings that I am most formidable. Why I am surprised that Dr. Deen did not speak of me as he came along under the plea of another Muslims and when he faced me my questions became too hard for him to answer for he knew he had no reply. He shirked as many other Muslims and Dr.�s shirked before him and I even fore warned him that would be so. After all I am a Prophet and I do know the Islamic religion more than your own religious leaders who kept you in your darkness. And thank you for those Kind words Iris.
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Rhoda you said: Starjade, if you wish to quote me again, please first notice that I am agnostic. I believe in self deprecating humor. I truly am not likely to be shocked by anything you or anyone says, having seen it all.
Starjade says: Huh? What you mean there are pictures. :)
Panic notteth Rhoda I shall bear your thoughts in mind.
Starjade says: I have seen others say farewell and they regretted
that decision. Recall the tale of the tortoise and the hare and
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says: We all know the Arabs worshipped baal and evolved to the
pagan moon god, Arabs were many god worshippers. It is also
known baal worship had been frowned upon which is why it became the
pagan moon god and Muslims hide this pagan moon god hubal al�ilah and
entice followers under the pretence of that they are worshipping the
God of Abraham and of Moses when in fact it is the pagan moon god hubal
al�ilah that they gave their worship to. So in other words Muslims
were scammed. It also claims in the Koran that Muhammad is a Prophet
from God when the Sura 4:82 proves that he was not. 11 Chapters
of the Koran glorify Jesus and yet the prophet Jesus claimed himself
as being is the very Deuteronomy Prophet that Muhammad and the Koran
were proclaiming Muhammad to being. So it plagiarized text for
wrioting of the Koran and its text is proven by the Sura 4:82 to not
come from God no matter what words it has stolen from other places.
The archeology of the middle east already exposes the Hubal al�ilah
deception of Islam. We in the west were not born yesterday.
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Iris you said: Jermin savory said,
Starjade says: Muslims challenged me with the Sura 4:82 challenge and they goaded me to challenge Islam with my God given Revelations. They asked me to find errors in the Koran and they insisted the discussion takes place under Islamic law and we all agreed. So I have every right to come to Islamic forums and issue the Sura 4:82 challenge and challenge any Muslim on this Planet for Muslims goaded me to do so. They accepted the challenge and over 1000 bragging Muslims waited for my arrival on their Islamic forum. Naturally that very day I spoke islam bit the dust and no Muslim could defend islam and so they all shirked away. But as they are my witnesses. I had challenged the whole of islam and won that Sura 4:82 challenge and so I have every right to speak under Islamic law and by the Sura 4:82 challenge. I do not like Shirkers and the living God does not like Shirkers and so what you gonna do when Starjade flows Revelations over all of you. I have more right to speak with Muslims than you do. Now stop playing games and go get your imams online for I challenged the whole of islam not just a few and I want your imams for my breakfast. Remind yourself the Islamic law that has been invoked states Muslims must reject what is not true. Are you a Muslim or not. I said are you a Muslim or not did you hear me. I say it thrice as that is an Islamic habit when speaking with those who claim they are Muslims so then are you a Muslim or not. If you are then stop shirking and reply an account for all the errors I have pointed out exist in the Koran and be the wise to get help from your imams because you surely are out of your depth and going to need their help as they are your Islamic scholars. So
then be aware I have every right to speak. And what I say is true
and done under Islamic law and by the Sura 4:82 challenge of the Koran
issued by Muslims themselves who have just as much right to speak as
you do. Or is this deception where you are afraid of revelation.
When I speak I speak facts. If I do not then come online and speak.
If not keep your bitterness to yourself. This is an inter religious
forum. Or so the title implies. This is why I chose to post
here. Don�t you think your Islamic religion can stand up to scrutiny
then. And just where are the Muslims to defend it. And do
not get paranoid as I condemn Christianity with as much zeal.
Everyone who comes against me bites the dust. Its just that there
is only one Lord King of the apocalyptic castle. At least at the
end of my Journey I may yet save some lives. I wonder what you
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Iris you said:
Starjade says: well as I point out to Pumpkin Muslims are bound by Islamic law and the Sura 4:82 of the Koran comes from the Koran itself so there is no escape for any Muslim anyplace on this planet. I was not interpreting the Koran or any religious doctrine. I see only facts and deel only with facts not beliefs of any individual religion. Iris you said: First, You overlook the fact that the Quran is nothing but a distorted Bible knockoff like others.
Starjade says: And badly re worded at that with loads of errors
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hamayoun you said: AA Iris, instead of long irrevlant discourses, please reply to what I said about Baal. If you cannot back up what you said, YOU are the one who will have been proven to be false. The passage I quite from the Quran makes it abundantly clear that Baal is not the same as Allah. Starjade says: Allah is a name for the Supreme God which at that Time to the people in the middle east was the pagan moon god who was what was taken over to hide their worshipping of Baal. It is like people who are condemned for worshipping a stone to move away and worship something else of a similar nature.
Starjade says: Mmm yes I think I was also saying that. Well put Iris. hamayoun you said: Oh I seeeee. So when the Quran says that Allah is not the same as Baal, its a lie? But when the Quran says Allah is not the same as Jesus, then what? What a pathetic answer, you are really useless at this stuff. Why not take up fly fishing? Starjade says: Allah is a name meaning supreme god and is nothing like the character Jesus who is depicted as a man not a God. There are some Christians who blasphemously believe Jesus is their god but they are few. It seems crucifixion didn�t get rid of them all. Tsk Tsk Tsk� Bewary hamayoun for Iris is a most religiously knowledgeable person. Baal was originally worshipped but then frowned upon so Baal was hid behind the worshipping of other false gods and Hubal al�ilah was just one of them being worshipped in the middle east. It is all long and boring stuff so I am sure you are not interested. But it was a clever scam denounce what you really are trying to hide. Do not forget many Muslims to this day hide the fact that the allah they are giving worship to originated as the pagan moon god Hubal al�ilah. Few Muslims know that information in these days but in times past they all knew. It was the converts who were not told that information. I know muslims who�s anger blazed at that deception. They now worship the living God of Abraham and of Moses and of Starjade. Tell me hamayoun what God is
it that you think Allah is then. Do you think of Allah as being
the living God of Moses or as the pagan moon god Hubal al�ilah.
This question is open to all Muslims passing by here. I am interested
in hearing your answer. ? hamayoun you said: I'm not tyring to prove anything, I am simply pointing out the errors made by iris89 in her trying to prove that Allah is the same as Baal.
Starjade says: Can you prove iris is wrong. I have seen
that she is right in my own research into these matters. Hide
a thing by another name. The moon was a prominent thing to Arabian
desert travelers and they lived their life by it. To me a false
God is a false god by any name.
Starjade says: You say it yourself. When you look up into
the night sky you see the stars and the moon. That is the light
many travel by.
Iris you said: Third, I do not like being falsely accused, and that by someone who apparently did NOT even read my article and/or read it with �mental blinders� on. Your Friend in Christ Iris89
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Starjade says: Eeeeek Iris is on the warpath :) Actually
iris I did read your statements and you are not guilty and gave a very
detailed (though long as it was to be) Panic notteth iris there
are many who cannot accept the inevitable as the horror of that deception
is oft painful to accept as being true even when it is proven to be
true. Sometimes the man will worship a stone and if we say that
is a blasphemy he will reply but you are speaking blasphemy to my god
the stone. Some people are just stuck in their ways. They
cannot embrace change that fast it often takes reflections.
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hamayoun you said:
Oh, my heart bleeds for you.....NOT! Starjade
says: Now come on hamayoun
this is an inter religious forum and Iris is giving statements about
islam and it is not her fault that these are dark secret things as we
in the western world know all about these things and Islam is not in
a closed world anymore. You just have to face reality now you
have entered into the big bad multi cultural world. Iris has spoken
all about islam from today and from pre history of Islam. Reality
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Starjade says: I love it when people speak about lil ole me.
Yes I oft inflict 7 times more blows upon those who inflict upon me.
(it�s a biblical thingy) Also I am a first born Gemini with a right
smart mouth. Warn your imams of that wont you. Hey warn
the world. Starjade is a Gemini (Holy Eeeketh) If you then
read all about the name Allah from the much knowledgeable iris then
there is no need for me to repeat it. Iris does stagger you with
the knowledge she has on such issues. She will by now know more
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wow. Lengthy post. I can refute all that in three words. Here they are: Elohi, Allahi, Allah. Elohi is the word by which Moses Called God in Hebrew. Allahi is the word by which Jesus called God in Aramaic. Allah is the word by which Muhammad called God in Arabic. All of them have the same translation into English: The One True God. Starjade
says: As a matter of fact Allah means the one supreme god as in
during the Times of Muhammad Hubal al�ilah the supreme moon god.
Do you get the point. The Muslims God is not the living God of
Abraham or of Moses and I am someone who can speak in the name of the
living God. Deuteronomy law states Muhammad is presumptuous to
think he could speak in the name of the living God. Many worship
Gods of this and that even the stone and yet just because they say this
or that is god that does not mean they have authority to speak or that
their God is God. Lets digress onto the Hindus who have many Gods.
Baal was considered to be God a stone was considered to be God.
But none are the living God of Moses. By the way Katatonic bliss
have you recovered yet from Starjades Revelations as I recall you were
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hamayoun you said: AA Instead of quoting God knows who, why dont we look at the Quran and see how Allah is described, particularly in reference ot the moon which we muslims supposedly worship?
Starjade says: Well because the Koran did not come from the Living
God of Abraham and is in no position to speak as is proven by the Sura
4:82 of the Koran. And of course Muhammad did not want people
to know that their Allah was the pagan moon god Hubal al�ilah as that
would be laughed at and so that was hidden. Starjade says: But these are the opinions of Muhammad and not Gods word. Muhammad was attempting to create a new religion based upon Old and new testament text. Muhammad also said the sun set in a pool of muddy water and also said in sura 18:86 it states, "Until, when he reached the setting of the sun, he found it set in a spring of murky water: Near it he found a people: We said: O Dhu al Qarnayn! Either punish them,or treat them with kindness." It is well known that only the superstitious in the age of Muhammad believed that the sun would set in a muddy spring.
Starjade says: As a matter of you speaking of signs and things what of this matter of Thunder and lightening. It may appear a digress but one cannot trust the words of anyone who makes statements such as these and then expect to be believed. Especially when they are hiding the fact that Allah is Hubal al�ilah the pagan moon god. Which is a well known fact by the way. Muhammad when speaking of the sun and moon and stars is just yackling and speaking a view. Muhammad and his family worship the pagan moon god Hubal al�ilah at kabbal and so all is not as it seems and the statement you make by the way cannot be assumed to be the actual words of Muhammad as others wrote out the Koran with other views.
(10:5 The Phenomena of Thunder and Lightning It is common knowledge, as scientists teach, that thunder is a sound caused by the impact between electrical charges found in the clouds. Yet Muhammad, the prophet of Muslims, has a different opinion in this matter. He claims that the thunder and the lightning are two of God�s angels�exactly like Gabriel!
In the Qur�an there is a chapter under the title of "Thunder" in which it is recorded that the thunder praises God. We might think that it does not mean that literally because thunder is not a living being�although, spiritually speaking, all of nature glorifies God. The expounders of the Qur�an and its chief scholars, however, insist that Muhammad said that the thunder is an angel exactly like the angel Gabriel. In his commentary (p. 329), the Baydawi comments on verse 13 of chapter of the Thunder,
"Ibn �Abbas asked the apostle of God about the thunder. He told him, �It is an angel who is in charge of the cloud, who (carries) with him swindles of fire by which he drives the clouds."�
In the commentary of the Jalalan (p. 206), we read about this verse: "The thunder is an angel in charge of the clouds to drive them." Not only ibn �Abbas asked Muhammad about the essence of the thunder, but the Jews did too.
In the book, "al-Itqan" by Suyuti (part 4, p. 230), we read the following dialogue: "On the authority of Ibn �Abbas, he said the Jews came to the prophet (peace be upon him) and said, �Tell us about the thunder. What is it?� He told them: �It is one of God�s angels in charge of the clouds. He carries in his hand a swindle of fire by which he pricks the clouds to drive them to where God has ordered them.� They said to him, �What is this sound that we hear?� He said: �(It is) his voice (The angel�s voice)."�
The same incident�the question of the Jews and Muhammad�s answer are mentioned by most scholars. Refer, for instance, to al-Sahih al-Musnad Min Asbab Nuzul al-Ayat (stories related to the verses of Qur�an, p. 11) and al-Kash-shaf by the Imam al-Kamakhshari (part 2, pp. 518, 519). He reiterates the same story and the same words of Muhammad. Thus, the incident is in vogue among all Muslim scholars, and the story and the dialogue between Muhammad and the Jews is well-known.
We have mentioned what the Baydawi, Jalalan, Zamakhshari, Suyuti, and ibn �Abbas have said. We do not know (among the ancient scholars) any who are more famous than these. Concerning lighting, Muhammad affirms that it is an angel like the thunder and like Gabriel and Michael. On page 230 of the above references, Suyuti alludes to it. Also on page 68 of part 4 of the "Itqan", the Suyuti records for us the names of the angels, which are: "Gabriel, Michael, Harut, Marut, the Thunder and the Lightning (He said) that the lightning has four faces."
The Suyuti listed all these under the sub-title, "The names of God�s Angels". He also indicated that Muhammad said that the lightning is the tail end of an angel whose name is Rafael (refer to part 4, p. 230 of the Itqan).
hamayoun you said: He merges Night into Day, and he merges Day into Night, and he has subjected the sun and the moon (to his Law): each one runs its course for a term appointed. Such is Allah your Lord: to Him belongs all Dominion. And those whom ye invoke besides Him have not the least power. (35:13)
Starjade says: yet this statement is just opinions coming from the writers of the Koran. Who did not want people to know they worshipped the pagan moon god Hubal al�ilah. denounce what you really are intent to hide. Simple cover up words to add to the deception. But it is a fact that is well known Hubal al�ilah is the god of the muslims. This cover up does not wash. The Sura 4:82 by the way already proves the Koran does not come from God and so already there is a book of lies that you are led to believe that is presumptuous and the Koran Sura 4:82 admits that and the many errors in the Koran proves that.
Starjade says: See Muhammad was trying to get Arabs and others s to not prostrate to the sun and the moon stop which they had been giving their worship too at that Time. You say it yourself. And he was persuading them to worship another god which he learned about from Christianity. But in those days everyone knew Allah was Hubal al�ilah we even know that to this day. So Muhammad accepted that reality and had everyone worship towards Mecca instead to redirect the people into his new religion which was enforced by threats of death. As Allah was the pre-Islamic pagan deity Hubal al�ilah, then its core claim is that it is not the living God of Abraham.
The Quraysh tribe into which Muhammad was born was particularly devoted to Allah, the moon god, and especially to Allah's three daughters who were viewed as intercessors between the people and Allah. The worship of the three goddesses, Al-Lat, Al-Uzza, and Manat, played a significant role in the worship at the Kabah in Mecca. The first two daughters of Allah had names which were feminine forms of Allah.
The literal Arabic name of Muhammad's father was Abd-Allah. His uncle's name was Obied-Allah. These names reveal the personal devotion that Muhammad's pagan family had to the worship of Allah, the moon god.
The worship of Baal and pagan gods was abhorred by the descendants of Ishmael and all Christians ect. So Muhammad had to hide the facts of who Muslims were giving worship too. An Allah idol was set up at the Kebah along with all the other idols. The pagans prayed toward Mecca and the Kabah because that is where their gods were stationed. It only made sense to them to face in the direction of their god and then pray. Since the idol of their moon god, Allah, was at Mecca, they prayed toward Mecca.
The worship of the moon god extended far beyond the Allah-worship in Arabia. The entire fertile crescent was involved in the worship of the moon. This, in part, explains the early success of Islam among Arab groups that traditionally had worshiped the moon god. The use of the crescent moon as the symbol for Islam which is placed on the flags of Islamic nations and on the top of mosques and minarets is a throwback to the days when Allah was worshiped as the moon god in Mecca. This may come as a surprise to many who have wrongly assumed that Allah was simply another name for the God of the Bible, educated Muslims generally understand this point. And these things had to be hidden from the rest of the world who did not like false god worshippers.
At the Kabah in Mecca 360 gods were worshipped, but it was built especially for the chief deity - the moon god. Allah was the personal title of the moon god. Allah was married to the sun goddess. They produced three daughters, whose worship Muhammad would later make the mistake of condoning. The crescent moon symbol of Arabia came from this god. Muhammad's family revered this particular god, and Muhammad declared him to be the only true god. Muhammad did not re-make the pagan god, he simply removed the lower deities from the rites of worship. That is why he never had to explain who Allah was. So Allah is a deified pagan idol converted into a god in the 7th century. Yet Muhammad claimed this was the God of Abraham that was revealed thousands of years earlier to the Biblical prophets.
Muhammad created his own religion - and attempted to remake Allah into a form that was more appealing to the many religious travelers that he came in contact with during his childhood. Muhammad succeeded in weeding out the lower gods, he moved Arabia from polytheism to monotheism. But being monotheistic does not make one a believer in the true God. Allah is not the God of Abraham, Isaac and Jacob. Allah is not the God of the Christians.
Allah, is the moon god of the Kaba and you have just seen how they hid that information by a few verses so as not to offend others who they came into contact with and they have used deception to keep that hidden every since.
Starjade says: Well I am not iris I am the Deuteronomy Doomsday Prophet Starjade and this claim of mine can be established by the laws of Deuteronomy and so then I am in a position to speak.
The proof of why I can speak with authority. http://www.geocities.com/end_of_times/chaptertwo.htm
Already I have outright proven the
Koran does not come from the Living God of Abraham using the Sura 4:82
of the Koran itself. So you were not that clever. The statements
iris has made are true and the statements I have made are true and a
few Sura �s from the Koran to may make it appear that Muslims no longer
worship hubal al�ilah is not convincing. I am not convinced.
Muhammad had claimed himself to being that Prophet of Deuteronomy Ch
18/verses 15/18 and so it would be embarrassing for him to make such
a claim when the god he worshipped was seen as a pagan moon god and
so he had to uses some deceptions in his teachings. You just pointed
a few out of how he was misdirecting people. Too bad for a thing
called history and archeology. So we know the know. Starjade
says: And don�t you try and teach a Deuteronomy Doomsday Prophet
his religious business as every other who tried failed badly.
Now why not start answering to those many errors that exist in the Koran
and attempt to prove that book you quote from is authentic Starjade
will laugh out loudly as you shirk away from that task. All other
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Starjade says: Now come on Katatonic bliss I have your statements on disc and you wept tears as you found you could not defend your religious beliefs. I bet your teeth are still gnashing. As I recall you do not have any actual religious knowledge your one liner quips did bore me. But as you saw other Muslims kept me entertained. And yeah I do get about don�t I.
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Starjade says; Actually Iris is not lying. The data she has given is all true and is well known and not some big secret. Type into your search engine for Hubal al�ilah and you will see iris is not lying. Type in archeology of Hubal al�ilah and learn that iris is not lying then type Sura 4:82 errors in the Koran and see it is Muhammad who is lying. You quote a few Suras that Muhammad used nay the writers of the Koran used to hide their worship of Hubal al�ilah and realize it is you who are being deceived by a few verses against Islamic history and pre history. Allah, is the moon god of the Kaba and you have just quoted how they hid that information by a few verses so as not to offend others many of whom were travelers who they came into contact with and they have used deception to keep that hidden every since. So Iris is not lying it is you who is caught up in Islamic deceptions.
By the way just in case you had forgotten. It can be established by the law of Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 that I am a genuine Prophet with a provable connection to the living God. In fact that law can establish that I am that specific Deuteronomy Ch 18 verses 15/18 prophet that the living God promised Moses he would raise up. This can be established by more than the four witnesses that I have named. This fact is undisputable as the law of Deuteronomy is a law brought down by Moses himself from the living God and is therefore considered to be the actual word of the living God. http://www.geocities.com/end_of_times/chaptertwo.htm
This fact outright proves Muhammad and Jesus are frauds as Deuteronomy law backs my claims up whiles Jesus and Muhammad have no witnesses for their claims at all as everyone knows. So the law of Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 established the claims of Jesus and Muhammad are not true. This fact proves Muhammad is a liar and a fraud without my needing to even Sura 4:82 the whole of Islam for as we all know Muhammad bragged in his deception that he was the last Prophet to come from God.
Well Deuteronomy law outright proves Muhammad is a liar and a fraud for I am established by Deuteronomy law to be a Prophet with a provable connection to the living God and Muhammad has absolutely no witnesses or proof to his claims. My evidence is always put up front for examination and I have and will scoff at all who think they are in a position to dispute that fact. Therefore I am who I can be proven by Deuteronomy law to be and with the claims I have been making you can be sure I have no reason to lie for Deuteronomy law which is the actual word of the living God and it already establishes my word to be true. Of course as can be seen I use Islamic law and the Sura 4:82 of the Koran to establish that the Koran does not come from God and to force the descendants of Abraham to reject what is not true.
I assume that people do posses common sense and I assume your religious leaders understand that they are in no position to dispute Deuteronomy laws that are considered to be the actual words of the living God. So then already it is established that I have no reason at all to lie about anything. But you Muslims and Christians do. As it can be easily established that I am a Prophet with a provable connection to the living God then be sure I know that the god of the Muslims is not the living God of Abraham or of Moses or of Starjade the Deuteronomy Doomsday prophet. You can idolize Muhammad all you want but you cannot prove he is the Prophet from God that he has proclaimed himself as being whiles he also believes Jesus is that same prophet whiles Deuteronomy laws disputes both those claims. So either way your beliefs still bite the dust.
Your religious leaders should be warned by now that I am not someone that is going to tolerate their deceptions. It is a fact that those who are guilty of Blasphemy must be stoned to death. Be sure as the Living Gods Deuteronomy Doomsday prophet that the living God himself promised Moses he would raise up, that I can and will stone to death all the idolizers and followers of false Prophets and false Gods to their death in the very apocalyptic earthquakes I have Prophesied about. Now realize I am not any ordinary man and my religious superiority is well known already on the internet and other places and your religious leaders have no hope in hell of defending any false Prophets from my God given revelations and for you to make claims that I am a liar would be laughed at when I am proven by Deuteronomy law to be a genuine Prophet from God. By the word of the living God himself and to me the Living God said you must hearken.
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