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Sura 4:82 A Challenge
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loommmool
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NO, you didn't understand.. what i meant is... Quraan is right.. you and the history is wrong..
egyptian history depended in your books.. what i meant also.. every thing you said about the two verses can be understood with defferent posibilities..
when the Quraan said the wife did, that means the wife did that.. but
when your book says the doughter cached the baby that doesn't mean she
is the one who adopted him... that means the one who wrote that understood
it like that...
believe me i know Quraan doesn't lie more than knowing that i am alive..
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loommmool
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loooooooooooooooooooooooooool
if you have a hand.. i am with Allah's hand.. his hand over every hand.. my life between his hand.. and to him i go.. you are (NOTHING)..
let me tell you something also.. you don't know who you are speaking
to.... be
careful too..
she/he is threaten me
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Starjade
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Pumpkinikikins I am not a self proclaimed Porphet as you know. The Law of Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15. Establishes the fact that I am a genuine Prophet with a provable connection to the living God. So
you are also mistaken.
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Starjade
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Trust me I have always been male. The Alpha and Omega male. I wondered what this female thing you were all talking about then noticed my Profile was in error I corrected it and it took a few tries as it would not accept the symbol. My
Title below should have shown you who I am and what Gender. You
dont think the living God is going to send a woman to do a mans Job
do you
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Starjade
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Well thankyou for your recomendation but I have heard far too many tales from those who make claims that they have travelled in the Abyss and yet clearly had not. I can pinpoint in space exactly where the Veil of the Abyss begins. I would need ultimate reality equipment of course and accurate photos of this Planet. As for the tales of others. I take them with a pinch of salt if you know what I mean. Besides my own Journey is far more fascinating.
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Starjade
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Pumpkin you are a good example as to why Muslims beat their women with
sticks.
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Starjade
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My Tree is the Tree of Knowledge and I know all the fruits that exist in the Garden. I also know of the fruit that grows upon the Tree of Knowledge which is the Key to Heaven and hell. A Red and White fruit also known as the Christ. This is why Christian Bibles exist that say the Christ died upon a Tree. Of course they were not speaking about Jesus. The Christians confused the congregations away from that hidden knowledge.
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Starjade
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Rachel you said: Oh, yeah, THAT'S how a man/woman/whatareyouexactly? who is part of God speaks to someone.... Starjade says: Yes clearly that is how and I can do even better. You see you view my claims with your own views of your false Prophets and their Characters. But I am not them I am genuine as proven so by Deuteronomy law. Now I love women but some women are most gobby and a big stick muslims found shuts those sorts up. It twasnt me hitting them with sticks cos I am a right nice person. Any ways God wanted to raise up a Prophet who could speak man to man with the people. Not some idol worshipping pretentious person but a man of the people. And it was yoos lot who started to cast the abuse. Of course we all know Moses led the Hebrews into the Red Sea whiles Starjade the much loved Deuteronomy Doomsday Prophet leads everyone else into denial. Rachel you said: want to see worthless garbage? I suggest you look in the mirror. I'm sure your spaceship has one? Starjade says: See what I mean. What purpose does your statement make other than to vent your frustrations. Now men are much more clam and collected and reasonable. And whats this spaceship thing about. I have no spaceship. I fly astrally across space under my own power as a lot of others do. Rachel you said: And what are you exactly? Starjade says: Exactly what I have said I am. I am that specific Deuteronomy Prophet Ch 18 verses 15/18 that the Living God promised Moses he would raise up as can be established by the laws of Deuteronomy for a fact. I scoff at those who think they can argue with the living Gods law for that is the actual word of the living God as brought down by Moses. Rachel you said: You're a woman, then you're a man.... does God do that for you too? Or was that just another little mistake you made when you came here to the forums? Just accidentally hit the wrong gender mark? Starjade says: No I put in male and the computer made the error. Do you wish upon a Star because you swing both ways. Or have you heard those rumours about the size of my pecker. :) Rachel you said: I think you are psychotic, and you really need to see a doctor. I'm saying this with all sincerity. Starjade
says: Well we all note you view but the spelling is Psychic.
And as you are so self opinionated why not explain why you in your delusions
think I need a doctor. I am a very good medic myself you know
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Starjade
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As
a matter of facts the Living God is my witness as well as the others
I have named. For the law of deuteronomy establishes my words
as being true. So stop the arguments and be thankful to the living
God for settling your dispute. And envy is green cos it makes
people sick.
Thats one of my pearls of wisdom. I have noted others here have
some good quips also. I likes the one abouy how light waves travel
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Starjade
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Starjade says: Hey Faazikins why not come and try and give an account for all the many errors I have mentioned exist in the Koran if you are so clever. I have said around 100 now and not seen a single Muslims able to reply. I suggest you take a leaf out of your own book. Of course you are too late there are too many pages and we all know of the Sura 4:82 by now.
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Starjade
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Well hello again Jermin Savory. I did log onto this forum and I started with an opening challenge that should by islamic law cause all Muslims to want to have discussions with me. yet they appear to be afraid to defend islam. The Sura 4:82 Challenge comes from the Koran and so it is a part of the agenda of the islamic religion and all done under islamic law. Take no notice of the other peckerheads that crawl out of the wood work to cast abuse. They always appear on all forums. They have little to say and it makes them feel that someone noticed them and it provides me entertainment whiles I wait for real Muslims to respond. After all a real Muslim should be capable of having a real religious discussion. Or are they just pretending to be religious here.
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Starjade
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loommmool you said: looooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo soooo funnyif you and that guy who wrote that article doesn't know arabic.. don't talk about something you don't know Starjade says: Clearly we know more than you. So the Koran is not all Arabic hahahahaha loommmool you said: looooooooooool man you soo funny... Starjade says: Yep I am a laugh a minute. Thinking of the pagan Moon god hubal al�ilah always make me smile when speaking with people like you. :) loommmool you said: i know more than you in arabic and in Quraan..... stop being funny and don't talk like stupids... Starjade says: Whats the matter have you no sensible reply then. ? loommmool you said: man you don't know anything about arabic... yep nor the one who wrote the article.... Starjade says: I know the word Kuffar and that is what you are being. A Kuffar (one who hides the truth. I note you cannot dispute what was said: loommmool you said: i don't know how you have this courage to teach an arabian about arabic...... and you don't know ANYTHING ABOUT ARABIC... Starjade says: But you and others know Arabic and so you know what is said is true. I do not need to read or speak a word. Yet showed you things you did not know before and it has flumaxed you. And do not be so sure of yourself for I am the one who challenged the whole of islam and islam by the Sura 4:82 has bitten the dust. You you and your religious leaders are not so clever then. :) Go get them online to face me if they dare and when you invite them look down at their legs for they are chick chick chick chicken legs. Clearly as these things were needed to be explained to you then it is self evident that you are not as smart as you claim to be so I learned you something that you clearly do not deny. loommmool you said: man your soo pathatic... Starjade says: Oh really you are a pagan moon worshipper of Hubal al�ilah who did not know the Koran is not all Arabic and bragged that it was and you are the one with your Islamic leaders who cannot defend the Koran or Muhammad from my God given Revelations. I have given around 100 errors in the Koran and have over 400 hundred more I could have said and at no Time have you dared to give an account for those. I am challenging the whole of islam and you say you are a part of that Islamic religion. Well you are bound by Islamic law to comply and discuss those errors because Islamic law states you must convert if you do not. If you doubt me go ask your imam. But be sure I know my business. loommmool you said: some advise.. don't do that again to me or to any one arabian..... just lie on some one who don't know arabic... Starjade says: Where is the lie. The Koran is not pure Arabic and it is you who is lying and I showed you proof which even you do not deny. And I was taught the religion of Islam by Islamic experts who were well versed in Arabic. loommmool you said: please learn arabic well .. then you will understand how silly you are.. Starjade says: I read English and have no need to speak Arabic and I do know my apocalyptic business and clearly I know more about the Koran than you. It is you Arabs who must learn the universal language of English so you can understand what I say. loommmool you said: believe me.. over 7 grade in school can shut you moth about every thing written there.. they don't even have to be smart.. by by prophet Starjade says: Well then as you could not dispute my words then that makes you the fool doesn�t it. I have been speaking in Cyberspace to Muslims from all over the world and it is always Muslims who are the ones going silent. loommmool you said: sorry for my bad English. Starjade says: its OK you English does not need to be perfect as long as you get the message across.
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UmmZakariah
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History cannot state exactly during what reign of pharoah, Moses (pbuh) lived. You are wasting your time starjade. You have proved nothing. We believe in the Qur'an as being kalaam Allah. You are not going to change that by some little arguement that you believe to be true. You expect us to take your word over the word of Allah? You should spend your time more wisely, and stop wasting it. What have you got to loose by studying the fundamentals of Islam and the belief in Tawhid? Nothing, u might actually gain something. The reason why muslims may appear to give you the silent treatment regarding your arguments, is not because you have gained the upper hand, it is because to argue with you is a waste of time. We dont believe you, end of story, so no point in going back and forth with an I'm right and you're wrong argument. To you your view and to me mine. TO THE MUSLIMS ON THIS THREAD - this thread is 15 pages already, please do not make it any longer by arguing with starjade. He has been answered already, no point in going around in circles. If he is not happy with the response he got, so be it. Spend your time more wisely. If he wishes to engage in more productive conversation, he is more than welcome to.
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Starjade
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Loommmool you said: NO, you didn't understand.. what i meant is... Quraan is right.. you and the history is wrong.. Starjade says: As a matter of fact I did understand and as a result of a debate I was having with a learned Dr. Maybe who suggested the woman who adopted Moses may have been married to the Pharaoh whiles also being the Daughter of a Pharaoh and so I studied Egyptian history in such depth it would stagger you. The data is correct. Nefure Hatshepsut was not married at the Time she adopted Moses and she was the daughter of the co regent pharaoh who was not the ruling Pharaoh at the Time as King Ruler. The Egyptians have a most strange hierarchy thing regarding rulers, which maybe too complicated for you to understand and I do not mean that disrespectfully. Trust in me I searched all data of Egyptian history and Nefure Hatshepsut was not married to a Pharaoh at the Time she adopted Moses and she only became married after Moses killed and Egyptian and had to flee to escape a death penalty. Then as Moses was The next inline to the Egyptian throne this left a problem and she had to be married to her half brother or lose the crown to another family. So the Koran is wrong by Egyptian history. However the Old Testament is proven to be right and it was the daughter of the Pharaoh even though he was only a Co Regent at that Time. Had History said the wife of the Pharaoh I would have said so. But it only makes that claim in the Koran and it is in error. Loommmool you said: Egyptian history depended in your books.. Starjade says: As a matter of fact Egytian history is written in stone and you can see a stature of Nefure Hatshepsut holding the baby Moses in Thebes. The Koran is in error and as Egyptian history is writ in stone then you are in no position to deny it. Especially as it also confirms the Old Testament exodus story as being more accurate and that is the source of that data on that Exodus story. The Egyptians do not like to record defeats so when Moses left things continued on from there. Loommmool you said: what i meant also.. every thing you said about the two verses can be understood with defferent posibilities.. Starjade says: I have just pointed out that is not so. The only conclusion that can be drawn is the Koran is in error in its Exodus story and even more errors exist in the Korans Exodus story than I have yet spoken of. How many errors must be shown until you have to accept that fact. Loommmool you said: when the Quraan said the wife did, that means the wife did that.. but when your book says the doughter cached the baby that doesn't mean she is the one who adopted him... Starjade says: Egyptian history is very clear and it was Nefure Hatshepsut who adopted Moses. Nobody else and she is the most famous woman in Egyptian history. Loommmool you said: that means the one who wrote that understood it like that... believe me i know Quraan doesn't lie more than knowing that i am alive.... Starjade says: It is a sad thing that the Koran is proven by the Sura 4:82 to be in error and not from God. And yes I have met many muslims who all believe the Koran is perfect and no errors exist in the Koran and that is what they are brainwashed to believe so much so they are convinced. I suggest you go to page 12 and read up on some of those errors that exist in the Koran before you make such an opinion just on faith alone. I am not a novice and I do know my business and I am dealing in facts and not beliefs or opinions. Either a thing is true or it is not. Egyptian history writ in stone shows Nefure hatshepsut only got married after Moses fled Egypt. Before that at no Time was she married. Moses was about 40 yrs old by then. Hence the Koran is in error and there are more errors found in that Exodus story that goes against the only source of that data.
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Its says it is the wife of the Pharaoh who
adopted Moses as you have just admitted and yet
according to Egyptian History Nefure Hatshepsut
who was that woman who adopted Moses was not married
at that Time. Hence the koran is in error.
O.K
Wasssamatter did you not like my Psychic reading of you 
We'll all forgive you if you do, and we will
not remind you of it.
??? did you studied the original Quraan (not the
translation)?