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Sura 4:82 A Challenge
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scruggnut 
Graduate Joined: 07 February 2006 Location: Canada Online Status: Offline Religion: None Posts: 1277 |
Thats what i meant, Jermin, when i said that a true prophet, which she claims to be, by the way; would find a way to enlighten us without incurring the wrath of the admins. But she chose to ridicule me, instead.
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| loommmool
Sophmore Member Joined: 02 February 2006 Location: United Arab Emirates Online Status: Offline Religion: Islam(Sunni) Posts: 97 |
Starjade: give us you proofs...
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Rachel25 
Super Mureed Joined: 22 February 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Religion: Islam(Muslim) Posts: 3098 |
SJ quote: Here is a link that explains how that law of Deuteronomy establishes that I am a genuine Prophet with a provable connection to the living God. So, what is your PROVABLE CONNECTION to the living God??? |
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Starjade
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scruggnut youi said: LOL....you're pretty funny, starjade. Starjade says: yep I have my moments :) scruggnut youi said: I came here to try and understand why people were freaking out about cartoons; but I never actually found that out. What I did find, was a place where, as long as one has a modicum of respect; you can say whats on your mind. Starjade says: The reason Muslims are freaking out over those cartoons is because they are blasphemous idolators. Have seen those cartyoons. They are petty. People died because certain Muslims worship a man and idolization is a form of worship and blasphemy in its extreme. scruggnut youi said: I also found some friends....I found people that I thought I couldn't possibly have anything in common with. Guess what. I was wrong. I have more in common with most of the people on this forum, than I do with the likes of you. Starjade says: So you came here because you got lonely. I just clicked a link on the Islam comic book and it brought me here. I thought I would stop by and say hello. I already had many I was speaking with. You idolize a false Prophet and so you have nothing in common with me. I stone idolaters to death. Or at the least chastise them with angry words. scruggnut youi said: I'm here to learn. Not just about islam; but about people....because in the end, as far as i'm concerned; it's the people that are important....not who they worship. Starjade says: Note how you say who they worship. Note I say the only worship should be to the Living God. Now to any man. (although girls you can smile sweetly in my direction :) ) Be sure of this Scruggnuts read my writings and you will learn more in a short while of religious matters then this world has since its beginnings. I am something of an expert on more than 3 major religions and I am a seeing is believing kind of a person who has little tolerance for peoples bullsh*t beliefs. scruggnut youi said: Whats important is not what hand they use to eat, or to clean their bums, or how many times they pray, or don't pray....to me, it's whats inside that matters. And whats inside the average muslim, is the same thing that can be found inside of me. Starjade says: I have spoken with many Muslims and they share a belief but not all in the same view. What I find in Muslims is idolatry and Blasphemy. You all need a proper religious education. Look around you. Muslims blowing up other Muslims and blowing up mosques and attacking and killing people with little provocation. You insult the living God with your pretences. Be wary for I have found you out and I do not like idolaters. scruggnut youi said: Don't come here telling these people that they have it all wrong. Don't come here thinking that you're the greatest thing since they made pez dispensers, because nothing is better than a pez dispenser. Starjade says: Don�t you tell me what to do you donkey head. I decide those things. The Sura 4:82 proves that Muslims have got it wrong but you of course think otherwise as you are so full of yourself. Hoping to breach glory from other Muslims. Do you want that pedestal. Well be sure you are not worthy. You are just another butt sucker hoping to make some pals. scruggnut youi said: What you want to do, will only promote more division....more hate. What's the point in that. We need less of that. We need more understanding, more acceptance, most importantly in the instances where there is little in the way of understanding. Starjade says: try and grasp this fact. Muslims goaded me for some Time to challenge Islam and so eventually I did. Now I challenge the whole of Islam not just a few and under Islamic law. Now I have no interest in any Muslims. It is the Arabs I have an interest in as they are descendants of Ishmael and many have converted to islam. Well now the Doomsday prophet has found a way to force them all to convert back and Islamic law and the words of the Koran back my mouth up all the way. I have no interest in the rest of the Islamic world who are false prophet and false God and idolater worshippers you can all go to hell. Muhammad should not have claimed he was that Deuteronomy Prophet and I would have had no interest in him. Of course an army of suicide bombers is of interest to me as Kings do need an army and such an army at my command would be most promising so certain Muslims I have an interest in and may offer them Salvation. But it�s the Arabs that I had an interest in and why? Well you would have to be totally religiously ignorant if you do not know the answer to that question. But such things of my religious agendas are none of your business. scruggnut youi said: We need to bring people together. We don't need to further the seperation between us. Starjade says: I think you may find the western world does not trust Muslims so you did that all to yourselves. I have a new way. But God only sent me to gather up and save certain people. Unless the whole of Islam serves my Crown then I will not serve it. Yet I am a savior. And you do not think with my mind. All the descendants of Abraham must convert. I do not save those who worship the pagan moon god hubal al�ilah. scruggnut youi said: I really hope you don't think that you're serving any purpose other than to strengthen everyones belief....you're not driving your vaunted wedge between them and their beliefs. Again, what you're doing, will make them understand that, if what they believe in can cause you so much distress....it must be closer to the truth than your words indicate. Starjade says: I note you opinions however the Sura 4:82 of the Koran admits if any errors exist in the Koran then that is proof that the Koran does not come from God and the Islamic law I have invoked forces Muslims to convert from islam and reject the Koran and the words of Muhammad and so your views are rather a tad shallow. Of course Muslims can ignore their own religious law but the Arabs cannot. scruggnut youi said: You mentioned the "enemies of islam"....am I wrong in assuming that you count yourself to be among their numbers? If you do, why should anyone listen to a word that you have to say, when your words are tainted by your hatred towards islam? Starjade says: I am not an enemy of Islam I was speaking of others. I was hear saving your worthless souls and offering Redemption. Its not my fault Islam bit the Dust it was your own. Would you not rather see a Sura 4:82 error found in the Koran dropped upon Islamic worshippers rather than the bombs and bullets that drop on you at this point in Time. And when you manage to put those points aside there is a very grave apocalypse on the way and all your worthless carcasses will be crushed no matter what religion you follow unless of course my words are hearkened to and you prepare for those grim day. scruggnut youi said: Am I lonely? Ummmm, no. Not half as lonely as someone who has to go around proving other people wrong, and who gets off on trying to smash other peoples beliefs. That's lonely. Starjade says: Worshipping false Prophets is a Blasphemy a false Prophet is presumptuous to think they could speak in Gods name and they are misleading the congregations and it is my place to stand up and speak. And the Living God said to me you should hearken. So you are out of order to condemn me. scruggnut youi said: I'm glad that you think of yourself as a prophet....very nice. Do you get your clothes at prophets 'r' us? Starjade says: I am established as being a Prophet who can be proven to have a provable connection to the Living God by the laws of Moses which he brought down from the living God. You should be more respectful. I am a Prophet because I do Prophesies the future and it is always grave. I can be proven to be a Prophet using the law of Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15. I named more than four witnesses. When
you speak of Jesus or Muhammad you cannot say they satisfy the law of
Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 for neither Jesus or Muhammad have any witnesses
to their claims so do not be so smug. |
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Starjade says: This is how I satisfy Deuteronomy law Ch 19 v 15. A law brought down by Moses himself. The statement has already been writ so Judge for yourself
The Satisfaction of Old testament law.
http://www.geocities.com/end_of_times/chaptertwo.htm |
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Jermin savory
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I've studied islam and have browsed through a lot of its cultures and I've never seen or noticed a group of muslims that worhship a man. Please correct your information or it will be subject to correction.
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Starjade
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I suppose you bothered to yourself read what was writ eh.? Do you know of many people who over hear the prayers of other people when they are buried in earthquake rubble one year into the future and then answer those prayers one year before those events had taken place.
Well the statement is self explanatary. |
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Starjade
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Muslims idolise Muhammad and do not pretend they do not. That
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Jermin savory
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Eternity
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Starjade, Just looked at your article. The content is pretty absurd. Do you want to take up one piece at a time and debate ?. There is only one rule. Quran is to be discussed from the sources of Quranic Interpretations. Bible is to be discussed from the sources of Biblical Interpretations. Do you
follow ?..
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Starjade
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Jermin savory you claimed: Starjade, you are not unique. We've had many people like you, especially with your mentality come to our forum with challenges. Your challenge isn't special or unique. your approach was to post a challenge to us, in this way, you will never be taken serious. Starjade says: Nobody is like me I am the only chosen one. I have already done and dusted islam on other forums. On this forum your all preparing to erase my writings as that is your only way out. I will just go speak elsewhere. Just as I was doing anyways. Why do you think you are important.? I am taken very seriously and Islam would be the wise to be very careful for I am going into a more public forum and if any Muslim comes up against me I will crucify them as your Imams are well aware. Jermin savory Issuing challenges shows and assures other members that you're not here to learn. So in this way...you'll either be dismissed, edited or disregarded and no one will take you serious. Its not that we don't have answers to your challenges but its the fashion in which you approach the forum. Starjade says: learn hahaha. Oh I am learning alright the varying ways Muslimns shirk the challenge. Already moderators have erased my initial challenge as I showed in the beginnings an error in the Koran that you had not reply for. Oh I do have all my copies by the way. It is because you do not have any answer that is why you are openly shirking. Its ok your ten a penny and I will still be speaking with some one and not have my Time wasted by you. Jermin savory This is a forum thats dedicated to giving dawah, which means, teaching and spreading the true message of islam. Answering challenges in the manner that you came will not fulfill our purpose here. Our purpose is to teach non-muslims and discuss with them matters surrounding islam. Starjade says: Oh I do not expect to stay here for long. And you do not teach how easily islam and the Koran and the word of Muhammad are proven to be frauds. Do you. :) Jermin savory Please try again, perhaps in the form of a question, and maybe our administrators will take you serious and not have to disregard or edit your post, if they didn't already. Starjade
says: I have issued a challenge now answer to that challenge or
bog off I do not have the Time to waste on you. Islam has fallen
and the Sura 4:82 states the Koran does not come from God and be sure
I can prove it. So shirk away. I have copies of all these
conversations. I collect them. |
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| Rachel25
Super Mureed Joined: 22 February 2005 Location: United States Online Status: Offline Religion: Islam(Muslim) Posts: 3098 |
I scrolled down through your mumbo jumbo and saw this. Seeing the future so clearly through the white lights of my Crown has caused me to realize my own potential as a Savior. You made me laugh. I though only Scruggnut had the power to make me laugh, but you have proven me wrong.
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Starjade
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I am simply answering the the questions made at the Time. I opened with the Sura 4:82 and the error in the Koran of what the Koran stated as to the wife adopting the Pharoah. The fact is Egyptian history states the women who adopted Moses was not married at that Time. hence an error exists in the Koran. Rather than a muslim answetring to that error the moderator simply erased it from this forum. But be aware it exists on many forums so hiding it wont make it go away. Now I was discussing the Koran and the Sura 4:82 of the Koran. It is you others who led astray those conversations and who have avoided other errors that are found in the Koran. Yeah are you Muslims or what., hahaha and what donkeyhead said this forum allowed freedom of speach. I suppose for a Muslims this is as close as you will get to being free. But I am used to real freedom.
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Starjade
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Of
course you are a Muslim and all Muslims give their worship to Hubal
al'ilah a pagan moon god. Clack it into your search engine if
you doubt me. So as false God worshippers be sure that I am the
only one really laughing.
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