Unknown

Unknown

Hype City Soundtrack - The third and final Cassette release, now out of print - Released in 1993...recording specifics unknown

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Studio

Various

Various

Rarites Volume One - Radio spots, Demos, Singles and rare one-offs

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ALL

Various

Various

Rarites Volume Two - Home Demos, and rare live bits

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Jittery Joe's

Athens, GA

Complete Set - 48 minutes - Jeff Mangum acoustic performance. Decent recording in a noisy environment.Caution: This has subsequently been officially released as Jeff Mangum - Live At Jittery Joe's, and so will not be available for trade as long as it remains in print.

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AUD

Knitting Factory

New York, NY

Complete Set - 65 minutes

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AUD

Rathskeller, University of Wisconsin

Madison, WI

Complete Set - 35:51 minutes - Sound: Good (-) to Excellent (-) This show sounds good at times, and not so good other times... there were problems with the soundboard.

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SDB

Side Door

St. Louis, MO

Complete Set - "Awesome soundboard recording, possibly the best quality NMH bootleg in circulation. There is also a low-quality audience recording of this show. At the beginning, Jeff mentions Jeremy couldn't make it, so it's a slightly more stripped-down show than usual. Also, Jeff says he and Scott have the flu, so he apologizes for a sloppy show. And he apologizes for his voice several times throughout the show."

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SDB

40 Watt Club

Athens, GA

Complete Set - 49 minutes - Comes coupled with 12/31/98, 40 Watt Club, Athens, GA @ 13 minutes for a total of 62 minutes

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Cat's Cradle

Carrboro, NC

Live At the Cat's Cradle - Source: "Live at the Cat's Cradle" Bootleg CD>EAC>wav>MKWact>SHN - Available in SHN or Audio WAV

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SDB

Mermaid

New Orleans, LA

Complete Set - 53 minutes

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AUD

Bottom of the Hill

San Francisco, CA

Complete Set - Unknown Mics > MD > CDR > EAC > SHN - Available in SHN or Audio WAV

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AUD

Crocodile Cafe

Seattle, WA

Complete Set - 45 minutes - Source: Sony D3 > ? > CDR

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AUD

Terrastock II, Custer Avenue Stages

San Francisco, CA

Complete Set - 46 minutes - "Terrastock II took place the weekend of April 17-19 of 1998, at the Custer Avenue Stages, San Francisco. Here's a link for more information. Some versions of this recording are missing the first 2 songs. And all versions seem to be missing the end of the last track, apparently cut on the DAT master." - Very good sound...quite possibly from the SDB, but not confirmed.

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SDB(?)

Lounge Ax

Chicago, IL

Complete Set - 63 minutes - "Decent recording, though the crowd is a bit annoying at times."

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AUD

Sudsy Malone's

Cincinnati, OH

Complete Set - 51 minutes

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AUD

08/19/98

The Garage

London, England

Complete Set - 44:40 minutes - Lineage: AUD(cass) -> cass -> cass -> CDR -> WAV -> FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD

40 Watt Club

Athens, GA

Complete Set - 13 minutes - Comes coupled with 10/14/97, 40 Watt Club, Athens, GA @ 49 minutes for a total of 62 minutes

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King's Arms

Auckland, New Zealand

When It All Caved In (live rarities & final show)
- "The holy grail of Neutral Milk Hotel bootlegs? I had heard about a fabled performance by Jeff Mangum in New Zealand in 2001 where he took a brief respite from reclusion for one night to once again perform NMH songs...his only show in the past several years. Fans can only hope Jeff decides to return to performing one day, but as it stands, the New Zealand show is regarded as the final Neutral Milk Hotel performance. Being a somewhat obsessed NMH fan and bootleg collector, it was a dream of mine to find a recording of the show, though I didn't have much faith in that ever happening. ...So words can't express my exhilaration when I was finally able to track it down. And not only did I find a recording of it, but an amazing quality soundboard recording.. probably the best sounding NMH bootleg I've heard!...It's basically a solo Jeff Mangum show under the name ‘World of Wild Beards Incorporated’. Jeff was joined by mulit-instrumentalist Laura Carter on a few songs. Chris Knox joins for the last song (a John Lennon cover). Here is a link to a review and some pictures from the show." - Includes nine cuts from hard to find live venues (I've only got a couple of them).

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SDB

1981

CAD108

4AD Records

Provisionally Entitled The Singing Fish - Second solo LP now OOP

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Studio

1982

CAD201

4AD Records

Not To - Third solo LP now OOP includes CN1, a free 5" CD EP included with the first 3000 copies of CAD108/201CD(a combination of the second and third solo albums). OOP and very hard to find.

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Studio

1986

CRAM 045

Crammed Discs

Commercial Suicide - forth solo LP now OOP.

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Studio

1988

CRAM 058

Crammed /Restless

It Seems - fifth solo LP now OOP

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Studio

05/14/88

Paradiso

Amsterdam, The Netherlands

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AUD

05/27/88

Alle Ubu

Rennes

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AUD

Scamps

Blackpool, England

Rehearsals 1981-1984 - 35 minutes - "As I know, this is the 3rd New Order performance ever. Unusally for this period they are talking between every song, but sometimes hard to understand. This gig has interesting versions of every song because New Order was just a trio at this point of date. Great version of Sister-ray. Sounds nearly like VU in person. I would rate the sound 7-8 out of 10." - Source: unknown aud unknown gen TDK AD 90/JVC TD-X203/SB Live5.1/Magix Music Cleaning Lab (NO EDIT)/wav/flac (level 8) - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD

The Underground

Boston, MA

Complete Set - "Fascinating document in New Order's live history in many ways. To say they sounded raw and under-rehearsed here is an understatement! Still compelling listening at times, when you consider what they went through just months earlier, having to pick up the pieces etc. IALP is played with a drum machine - due to the fact that it's said that Steve was singing. I'm not convinced myself. The shit really hits the fan when Hooky attempts to sing! Steve is also said to have sung Truth, but if this is the case he sounds a lot like Barney to me! On this tour the band managed to have all their gear nicked! Imagine - all the original guitars, keyboards etc used in Joy Division!! So Hooky had to play on a borrowed 4 string songs which he would normally tackle on his Shergold 6 string. that's why Cries & Whispers and Dreams Never End sound so "odd". Either way this show is essential for collectors and certainly worth a listen. The quality is pretty good, considering! I cleaned up a bit of high end hiss via soundforge too." - Lineage: Low Gen CASS > Wav > Soundforge > FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD

College of Arts

Rochdale, England

Complete Show - "Taken from an Maxell XLII tape, lineage unknown though it's unlikely to be first generation - you can clearly hear the inbetween song banter - Quality of this otherwise is similar to other '80 New Order gigs, the recording appears to have been monaural. No other processing other than level adjustment or tracking has been done to the source, opening up the possibility for somebody else to remaster this one at some later point. Still, I reckon this is very listenable. Third gig as a four-piece. Live debut of "The Him" and "Procession". New Order appears to have had significant problems with their monitors, due to the feedback audible throughout and the numerous comments about their foldbacks. And an early example of the legendary wit and wisdom of Herr Albrecht: 'Sorry if you were expecting any, uh, Joy Division songs. Well, not really, I know we're not playing them.'." - Lineage: Source Cassette (M?) > WAV > Nero WaveEdit (to fix levels) > CD WAVE (tracking) > FLAC (level 8) - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD

Various

Various

Rehearsals 1981-1984 - "There's an interesting story to this. Apparently, this is a part of a set of tapes which was "discovered" in New Order's rehearsal studios and (eventually) sold on Ebay to David Sultan (of worldinmotion.net, FAC441, fame). much to the disgust of certain members of the group. However, they were copied before the "masters" were auctioned, and slowly made available." - Lineage: MC > CDR > WAV (EAC secure) > FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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Studio

Markthalle

Hamburg, Germany

Complete Set - First Gen. AUD Tape > CDR < wave < flac - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD

The Roxy

Stockholm, Sweden

Dead Bodie's Can't Sing - "The sound quality, unlike many of the 81 European gigs, doesn't suffer from boominess. This could be a soundboard recording. It's obvious that this has been mastered from the LP due to the scratching and crackling in a few places. Otherwise, the sound is very good." - Lineage: Silver CD (boot) > EAC > WAV > FLAC frontend > FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD

SO36

Berlin, Germany

Complete Set - "There is an fade out after track 09 to change the tape." - Lineage : reel to reel mastertape Taped by : booom Transfered by : boom - master tape (uher report) > cdr(philips CDR570) > wave(CD`n`Go! Suite) > FlacF(level 8) - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD

C.N.D. Festival

Glastonbury, England

Complete Set - "This is from the same source as used for one track (IALP) on the apalling Retro box set . The quality is equal to the version on Retro (once a little NR is applied to allieviate the slight hiss). This must rank as one of the best quality recordings by New Order of all time. A pity the show (performance) never rises to such heights.)". - Source : Soundboard > CASS (2nd gen) > WAV > FLAC (no noise reduction) - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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SDB

Phoenix Hall, Sheffield Polytechnic

Sheffield, England

Complete Set - "...some degree of hiss, but the base recording is very good, nearly as good as the Walthamstow gig that follows, with definied instrument separation and not at all boomy." - 2nd gen cassette > wav > flac - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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SDB

Walthamstow -
Assembly Rooms , venue like a cinema

London, England

Complete Set - "I taped this show from the first row of the balcony, and the quality is amazing for an audience recording. Stephen told me after the show, it was much better to do 40 min of high energy, than to do 120 min of a boring show , and this show from New Order is pure energy. Believe me , it's one of the best shows from 1981 ,and I saw a lot of shows from New Order in this year." - First Gen. AUD Tape > CDR < wave < flac - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD

The Ritz

Manchester, England

Complete Set - "This gig sees New Order as noise terrorists! Just about everything that can go wrong, does go wrong here. The first couple of minutes of Hurt (debuted here at the Ritz) has to do battle with the hapless dj still playing music over the p.a.! Then the "hum" prevailent throughout a lot of the gig starts at the beginning of In A Lonely Place - an annoying hum going through the p.a. which the tape picks up! Barney eventually suggests to the sound guy to turn off ALL the lights - that seems to do the trick. There's a classic Gillian-related blooper - she plays Senses in the wrong key, for the duration of the entire song! But in typical New Order style they turn disaster into triumph by playing what is in my opinion one of THE most powerful live performances they ever gave, in Everything's Gone Green. Well, a piece of sonic experimantalism loosely based on Everything's Gone Green, at least. It's so powerful it hurts!! It thunders along relentlessly for 15 minutes like a juggernaut - play this one LOUD and see what I mean! The quality, despite the p.a. problems, is in my view pretty good - on a par with Hull '82 I would say. Plus this tape has some amusing audience banter (including some booing at the end of the set - surely a first for a New Order recording?!).". - 2nd gen Cass > Wav > FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD

Soul Kitchen (Mayfair Suite)

Newcastle, England

Complete Set - "A very nice audience recording (especially considering it's age) played with lots of energy, done by the same taper who recorded several others around this time such as; Sheffield 81, Manchester Ritz 81, Hull 82, Brussels 82, Futurama 82, Birmingham 82, Leeds 82, Blackpool 82, Cardiff 83, Edinburgh 83). If it wasn't for this taper there would be hardly any decent quality recordings from this era. Therefore to get lower generation copies would be awesome. Unfortunately nobody knows who the hell the guy is! (You can tell it's the same guy throughout these recordings by the way he sings along to certain intros.)." - Cassette (2nd gen) > Wav > FLAC (no noise reduction) - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD

L'Ancienne Belgique

Brussels, Belgium

Complete Set - "This gig is one of my very favorites. The quality isn't stunning, but it's certainly very good (from the same source as Hull '82 - maybe a bit clearer). The quality of the gig, however, is just amazing. They fly through each song like they're all on speed (how else can Steve play that fast and keep time??)". - Cassette (2nd gen) > Wav > FLAC (no noise reduction) - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD

Paris Le Palace

Paris, France

Complete Set - "A nice FM recording of a show broadcast on French radio (I do not have the details of date of broadcast or radio station). Recorded on slightly inferior tape to begin with I suspect, and is hissy as a result. As a result I cleaned this one up on Soundforge - this is against my normal principles to clean it up but this is for those people without the know-how or softare to do so themselves! Don't expect digital FM quality - it is more than passable though. A nice fast-paced set (as were all New Order's gigs around this period) - the gig is noteable for the 2nd ever performance of The Village. This raw version sounds much nicer to my ears....The edits are a bit wonky in places - I suspect this is more to do with the original broadcast." - Lineage: FM > 2nd Gen Cass > Wav > FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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Provinssirock Festival

Seinajoki, Finland

Complete Set - "See http://www.new-order.net/no/gigs/nogigs82.html#NO-820605 for more information about the sources and performance details, including a translation of all the Finnish dialogue, much of it amongst the venue crew trying to keep it together. This is a very special release, as it represents a heretofore uncirculated source of a gig that was thought to not have been taped. KUdos go out to Juha who generously made this available to myself and the NO/JD trading community. While the SQ was very good to start out with, it has been made even better throughthe efforts of Drew Crumbaugh, who took the time to remaster this from the digital copy which Juha provided me. See http://drewc.dyndns.org/provinssirock_remastering.htm for the settings he used here. Be aware that for much of this gig, there is fairly loud buzzing through the PA which was driving both the audience and sound crew bonkers. Even so, this is very listenable, with notable versions of We All Stand and especially 586, in superior pre-PCL form. New Order say not a word. They just let their music do the speaking." . - Lineage: M/1 > Luxman K-5 > Philips CDR 870 > CD-RW > EAC > WAV > FLAC > Adobe Audition (EQ/compression/limiting) > FLAC- Taped by: Petri Keckman Transferred by: Juha - Additional Mastering: Drew Crumbaugh - Audience recording. > Original master destroyed > M/1 was recorded from Aiwa to Luxman K-5 > M/1: BASF ferro super LH1. Normal bias cassette.c - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD

Rollingstone

Milan, Italy

Complete Set - "Amazing 586->Temptation->EGG segue that must be heard to be believed, as well as a unique cover of Sparks' "When I'm With You". I believe this is from the FM broadcast. While it sounds like first generation, I don't have any hard information regarding how many analogue generations this may have gone through before being archived on cd.". - Lineage: FM > MC (low-gen) > cdr > wav (EAC secure) > flac - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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Radio

Futurama IV (festival)
Deeside Leisure Centre

Wales, United Kingdom

Futurama IV - "Well, here it is, then: the band's 1982 return to the Futurama Festival. Far from being "a pristine soundboard" recording, this is a great sounding, but rough audience recording, with the music coming out right in your face and the vocals a bit distant. I have a feeling the sound in the venue must have been very loud; you can tell the taper's machine had some issues adjusting to it after the tape flip, during EGG. The band's performance is absolutely great." - Lineage: CD-R (unknown gen) - EAC - wav - Flac Frontend (level 8) - FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD

Victoria University

Wellington, New Zealand

Complete Set - "This is a fantastic soundboard recording from the band's summer tour down under, catching them at a time when the phoenix had well and truly risen (following the experiments in the first half of the year). For more information (also about the weird sound that can be heard inbetween songs, which is certainly not the result of excessive noise reduction or anything), see Sam's notes at
http://www.new-order.net/no/gigs/nogigs.html#NO-821208." - Source: SBD > Lineage: CD-R (unknown gen) > EAC (secure mode) > wav > FLAC Frontend (level 8/verify) > FLAC
- Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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SDB

The Hacienda

Manchester, England

Complete Set - Review of the performance by Dave Roberts of Sounds at http://www.new-order.net/terminal1.demon.co.uk/NewSounds2-83Live.htm - 2nd Gen. AUD Tape > CDR< wave < flac - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD

Recreation Centre - Kingston-Upon-Thames

Tolworth, England

Complete Set - "Tolworth was my first New Order bootleg. Most copies I've heard have been unbalanced towards the right side and of middling-or-worse quality. This is the best version I've heard so far, but it's still a bit hissy for what's supposed to be a soundboard. Sound has better dynamics than on the Confused Dreams bootleg, and none of the essential between-song banter is cut here. Rumor has it this gig was made readily available to maximize the humiliationof Mark Johnson, who had his scooter hoisted for purportedly obstructing one of the trucks (It's his license plate number they're reading before the start of We All Stand. The performance is amzaing, equally as good if not better than Kilkenny, with perhaps the best Dreams Never End ever. This is what sold me on New Order being more than just digital pop merchants..". - Lineage: source cassette (M?) > WAV > CD-R > FLAC (EAC secure) - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD?

Tiffany's

Glasgow, Scotland

Complete Set - "This is an excellent-sounding audience taped done by an old pro at that sort of thing, or so I'm told. Unusual in that there are two versions of Blue Monday, one being the "Top Of The Pops" edit, the other the regular versions brought out for the encore. So, if you're not a fan of that track, this one's not for you. Senses has an extra verse with different lyrics, Hurt has an interesting intro, and 586 has a Gillian howler as she triggers the intro to Hurt by mistake. Bernard was none too pleased with that as he then asks the crowd, "Why do women have legs? So they don't leave a trail like a slug." At the start of Age Of Consent, Hooky comments, "Well, you know I got spit all over my guitar. Where are the Blackbourn boys when you need 'em, eh?". - Lineage: M1 > WAV > CD-R > FLAC (EAC secure level 8) - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD

Rosehill Hotel

Kilkenny, Ireland

Complete Set - "Straight from "Top Of The Pops", we have New Order! On my left, I have Peter Hook. On my right, I have Gillian Gilbert. Behind me, I have Ian Curtis." Includes a 21:45 minute Kilkenny radio interview - Lineage: FM Radio Broadcast > Cassette > WAV > CD-R > FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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Nightlife

Austin, TX

Complete Set - "Incredible-sounding source (copy from master) of New Order's second '83 tour US gig. Received this a year ago, but didn't realize how nice-sounding this was until recently. Also have the Soundcheck (45 minutes), included as a bonus, taken from a tape in my archives. Sound is fairly good, but because recording levels were lower, some hiss is noticeable. Performance is fairly good, this shouldn't disappoint fans of the early sound. Soundcheck notes: Rough description of the proceedings. Taper and some buddies provide some running commentary. They sound all like Americans, with one sounding like he's from the area the gig was played." - Lineage: source cassette > CDR > WAV (EAC secure) > FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD

Paradise Garage

New York, NY

Ceremony - Complete Set - "This is a pretty-good sounding version, though it appears that the bootleggers cleared out a bit too much high-end from the original master tape. Not a problem though, this show is extremely listenable! This one is noteful because of the quotes from Barney. He slags off the NY audience several times for not getting into the show, and this features one of the first performances of "Thieves Like Us" (the lyrics are only partially written). "Confusion" had yet to see release as they had just been working on it with Arthur Baker." - Source: AUD --> Silver bootleg CD "Ceremony" Lineage: ??? --> original silver CD --> CDex --> WAVs --> FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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Townhall

Bournemouth, England

Complete Set - Two complete sources with the Soundcheck - Disc One ends with Sound Check - Part 1,...Part 2 is at the end of Disc Two - Lineage (Disc 1 gig): M2 > WAV > CD-R > FLAC (EAC secure level 8) taped by: Robert Wilson - lineage (Disc 2 gig): M0 > WAV > CD-R > FLAC (EAC secure level 8) taped by: Neil Donkin - Lineage (soundcheck): M? > WAV > CD WAVE (tracking) > FLAC (EAC secure level 8) - Probably taped by Robert Wilson - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD

Caeser's Palace

Bradford, England

Complete Set - "This is a classic New Order gig, full of energy. A great recording too. Years ago someone lent me a M1 copy, which ran so fast it was ridiculous (about 4 pitches too fast). I managed to acquire a tape deck with manual pitch shift, and made a correct copy. This transfer is from that copied tape so it will be M2. The great sound is helped by the superb sound at the actual gig - probably the best sounding New Order gig I attended. There are some great fx prevailent throughout the gig too, courtesy of their creative soundman on the night." - Cass (2nd gen pitch corrected) > WAV > FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD

Volkshaus

Zurich, Switzerland

Complete Set - I've included a French interview done at around the same
time as the performance that was on the tape from which I pulled this. - Lineage: FM Radio Broadcast > Cass > WAV > CD-R > FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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Studio 54

Barcelona, Spain

Complete Set -Very solid sound and a strong performance,...this is the corrected version. - Source: ATR-STASH mixer Lineage: SBD (ATR-STASH box-o-tapes) --> ??? --> FLAC via Sam (lammah) -->--> SoundForge (to fix DC offset and remove old SBEs) --> CD Wave (re-tracksplitting) -->--> FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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SDB

Caley Palais

Edinburgh, Scotland

Complete Set - Lineage: MC > (low-gen - thought to be second)> wav > flac - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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Barrowlands

Glasgow, Scotland

Complete Set - "Taken off tape, this was about a semitone fast. However, shortly before
seeding, I performed timing discipline checks against some of the sequenced tunes (BM, AoC, KW1) and determined I had overcorrected this a bit, so it's probably closer to three-quarters of a semitone fast. Not much more processing than that. Features the debut of Elegia. Somewhat marred (or made more interesting) by something packing it up during the intro of Blue Monday and the extended intro to The Perfect Kiss. The sound of fans chanting along to Thieves Like Us is awe-inspiring. Barney tells an off-color joke at the start of their encore, " Hear about the Ethopian prostitute? She had more men than hot dinners." For years, I thought he was saying GUINESS instead of DINNERS, shows you
what a git I am. The sound quality is simply amazing for an audience recording. In fact,
I prefer this one to a lot of the '85 soundboards because you feel like you are down in front pogoing with the other punters. I've also appended the Radio Clyde interview (first with Hooky and then Barney) that was done during the soundcheck. If you listen to Barney's part of the interview, you can hear them checking drum levels. You'll need two CDs to fit this if you burn in CD audio format.". - Lineage: M/1 (perhaps even M/0) > CD-R (1-2 copies) > EAC (secure)> CD WAVE (tracking) > Nero Wave Editor (pitch adjustment) > FLAC taped by: Malcolm Beaton - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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The Volkhaus

Zurich, Switzerland

Complete Set - "This appears to be from a Swiss FM Broadcast, there is a slight modulation on the high frequencies, and the source cassette was at least 2nd Gen, but I did a bit of tweaking to bring things out a little". - Source - Radio Broadcast? Transfer - Cass - CD (EQ'd + Normalised through Yamaha Digital Desk - HHB Burnit CD Writer) - EAC - WAV - Flacfrontend - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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Kosei Nekin Kaiken Hall

Tokyo, Japan

Complete Set - "This is the legendary "PFD" gig except for the fact this is the ENTIRE show - including a very long introduction before Confusion, a long encore break after "Sunrise", and a long outro after Blue Monday featuring some Japanese speaker over the venue PA. If you want to fit this on one CD, the long breaks are easily removed to bring the total gig to under 80 minutes. There are some other differences between this and the "PFD" audio - namely, it's quite obvious when doing an A/B comparison that there were two different mixes used for the two recordings. The PFD audio sounds heavily compressed (as you'd expect for a professional release) and there are other differences here and there. What we have here, in this ATR/Stash mixing desk tape, is the raw, unexpurgated show as performed with zero post processing applied. Age Of Consent is missing the first second or so of Hooky's bass intro, probably because whomever was manning the mixing desk didn't get the tape flipped in time. It lines up almost exactly where a C90 tape would need flipping." - Source: ATR-STASH mixer Lineage: SBD (ATR-STASH box-o-tapes) --> ??? --> FLAC via Sam (lammah) --> SoundForge (to fix DC offset and remove old SBEs) --> CD Wave (re-tracksplitting) --> --> FLACd - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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SDB

Selina's Coogee Bay Hotel

Sydney, Australia

Complete Set - "Excellent-sounding ("9") M/1 copy of master tape of New Order's second of four '85 Australian gigs, so good that it could get mistaken for a soundboard. You can hear Hooky's off-mic count-in at the start of Let's Go, for instance. Fairly unusual in that the Order decided to open with Temptation, and a very notable version of Sister Ray with different bass sonics than anywhere else. Gig is also notable in that it was five years to the day that Ian Curtis took his own life, though We All Stand is dedicated to Elvis Presley instead. Like the 17 MAY 1985 gig, this was about half a semitone too fast, and a bit unbalanced toward the right channel. The tape is in phase, though. Aside from speed and balance adjustments, no further processing has been done." - Lineage: source Cassette(M1) > WAV > FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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East Leagues Club

Brisbane, Australia

Complete Set - "Third in a series of four Down Under gigs during the '85 tour.
This one has been maligned somewhat, while it is perhaps the least energetic of the bunch, it does feature an excellent version of Ceremony and the final ever rendition of "The Him". The sound quality is very good, though it is a notch below the Melbourne and Sydney gigs before. One interesting thing during these Australian gigs is Hooky's bass sound, it is very different than elsewhere. I don't know or remember exactly what happened to cause this. A note about track #12: this was edited out of the cassette I pulled the rest of the tracks from. It is present on a CD which contains the same source, but apparently has been subjected to a band-pass filter that stripped off the higher frequencies." - lineage: source cassette (low-gen) > WAV (Nero WaveEdit) > CD Wave (tracking) > FLAC (level 8) except * ? > CD-R > EAC (secure) > Nero WaveEdit (EQ, levelling, join with tracks 11 and 13 from other source to avoid SBEs) > CD Wave (tracking) > FLAC (level 8) - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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Fox Theatre

Atlanta, GA

Complete Set - "Another great ATR/STASH recording, however, unlike the other ATR/STASH soundboards posted recently, this did NOT originate in the Whittaker "box of tapes". ATR acquired this via other means although it is just as good quality sound-wise, if not better, than many of the "box-o-tapes" shows. The venue information, and even the date, are not absolutely 100% confirmed. ATR received this labeled as "OZ/NZ 85?" and the detectives on neworderonline.com narrowed it down with 90-95% certainty to this 8/11/85 Atlanta gig (quite a stretch geographically from Aus/New Zealand but there you go). See this thread on neworderonline.com for details and the detective work-in-progress: http://www.neworderonline.com/MessageList.aspx?ThreadID=11739 - Quite possibly one of the worst gigs New Order have ever performed, and for that reason alone this is a fascinating document to listen to. There're mistakes all over the place, on just about every song, but nothing in this world matches the utter train wreck that Chosen Time would become..."Chosen Time" might as well be from another planet, it's so incredibly bad. Either perversely or just because of the drugs, Gillian plays the ENTIRE synth riff throughout the song in a different key - you'd think she'd notice after the first, oh, 1:30 or so but no! she charges on, even with Barney's continued laughing and giggling at how astonishingly awful it is throughout the song. Every time I listen to this I just imagine the looks Barney must be shooting at Gillian. Barney doesn't even try to play the right guitarlines here, because I imagine he just decided he'd have fun with it, or that they would just sound horrible contrasting with Gillian's incompetence ;) The theory that this gig fits the Atlanta 8/11/85 idea is strengthened by the fact that on 8/12/85 in New Orleans, LA they perform "Chosen Time" perfectly, in fact one of the best versions of the song I've ever heard. And that was it - the last time it's played. It's quite likely they worked on it at soundcheck that next night in New Orleans and played it at the gig just to prove they could, and then retired it.". - Source: ATR-STASH mixer - Lineage: SBD (ATR-STASH tape) --> ??? --> FLAC via Sam (lammah) --> SoundForge (to fix DC offset and remove old SBEs) --> CD Wave (re-tracksplitting) --> FLAC - Actual lineage likely thus: SBD (band's CASS(0) or CASS(1) copy thereof) --> CDR --> CDR --> CDR --> FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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Central London Polytechnic

London, England

Complete Set - Includes the Soundcheck - "Soundcheck tracks are different source than gig tracks (EQ differs, tonal qualities differ) This gig is ranked by many New Order fans to be part of the Top Ten Gigs of all time, and in fact many (myself included) consider this gig to be the best of their 1985 soundboards *by far*. For many reasons this gig is a **must have** for all New Order fans. The first 8 tracks of the gig itself were bootlegged as the vinyl LP boot "More Than Despair"in the mid-to-late 1980s, but the last 2 were unavailable for years until recently. However, *NONE OF THIS SEED WAS SOURCED FROM VINYL!*. Rather, it's likely the same source was used years back to master the vinyl itself as the vinyl versions sound remarkably similar in all ways to this source seeded here. There's a long and drawn out story behind getting this source to be seedworthy but I'll just say there's no better version out there unless you own the master tape or a 1st gen copy! It's likely *ALL* digital copies of this source, until now, are full of glitches and skips - and it's not likely at all that we'll get a perfect copy from the band's cassette master, ever." - Source: ATR-STASH mixer (?) - Lineage: SBD (ATR-TASH tape) --> ??? --> FLAC via Sam (lammah) --> --> SoundForge (pitch correction, glitch removal, missing bits patching, levels, remove old SBEs) --> CD Wave (re-tracksplitting) --> FLAC - Per Sam, the actual lineage for where I have "???" is most likely thus: SBD (band's CASS(0) or CASS(1) copy thereof) --> CDR --> CDR --> FLAC --> ... (detailed above) (there is some debate as to whether ATR's tape was M0 or M1 or even possibly M2)C - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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The Fulcrum

Slough, England

Complete Set - This is the corrected version - "Another glorious SBD recording of mid-80s New Order, this time the night after the widely-circulated Central Poly gig. Lineage is I believe the same box-o-tapes the '84 Barcelona, '89 Irvine Meadows and '89 Cuyahoga Falls gigs came from,..." - Source: ATR-STASH mixer
Lineage: SBD (ATR-STASH box-o-tapes) --> ??? --> FLAC via Sam (lammah) --> --> SoundForge (to fix DC offset) --> CD Wave (re-tracksplitting) --> FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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Salle Villar, Maison De La Culture

Rennes, France

Complete Set - This is the corrected version! "This thing sounds just as phenomenal as all the other ATR/STASH soundboards posted recently. However, there is the most gawdawful diginoise (probably incurred during the original transfer from tape) during the latter third of Temptation. I tried my hand at fixing it, and after a couple hours work, realized I'd only fixed about three seconds worth (out of ~45 seconds of diginoise)." - Source: ATR-STAsH mixer??? Lineage: SBD (ATR-STASH box-o-tapes?) --> ??? --> FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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Salle Du Baron

Orleans, France

Complete Set - "Lineage is the same stash-o-soundboards from (most likely) Hooky's Suite 16 recording studio, liberated by Brian Whittaker (Revenge touring bassist) via eBay, but previous to selling copies amongst the NO trading community in the UK. From a post by OldMonkey on STG:" A box of mixing desk tapes was found in a rehearsal studio used by Peter Hook. They were advertised on E-bay by Brian Whittaker, former Revenge live guitarist. David Sultan of the website "World in Motion" paid over £500 to win the auction. Before they were sent to David though, they were copied amongst the Manchester bootlegging fraternity, and are now widely available in the UK and wider. Coincidentally (or otherwise, and this is where it gets good), the majority of the shows in this box were the complete gigs from the tracks used on the live disc of Retro (plus quite a few other gigs). It appears as though Hooky meant for them to find their way to the bootleg hardcore......." - Source: ATR-STASH mixer - Lineage: SBD (ATR-STASH box-o-tapes) --> ??? --> FLAC via Sam (lammah) --> SoundForge (to fix DC offset) --> CD Wave (re-tracksplitting) --> FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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Manhatten Club (Cultuurcafe VUB)

Leuven, Belgium

Complete Set - "This thing sounds just as phenomenal as all the other ATR/STASH soundboards posted recently. One minor note, on the original ATR/STASH tape "The Village" was missing its last ten seconds or so of audio (probably due to an A/B flip on the original mixing desk tape), but the version here has the missing bit absolutely perfectly spliced in from the audio portion of the broadcast (this gig was broadcast on Belgian radio, as well as on Belgian television). Not sure whether the splice was from the audio or the video, but no matter, whomever fixed it did it perfectly and it sounds really good." - Source: ATR-STASH mixer Lineage: SBD (ATR-STASH box-o-tapes) --> ??? --> FLAC via Sam (lammah) --> SoundForge (to fix DC offset) --> CD Wave (re-tracksplitting) --> FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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Spectrum Arena

Warrington, England

Complete Set - Sound is superb - Source: Master Mixing Desk Cassette -> CD ??? -> FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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Manchester Exhibition Center (GMEX)

Manchester, England

Complete Set - Festival marking the 10th anniversery of Punk - "Not much to say about this gig, other than I thought I would post it as there seems to be a gap in New Order gigs posted for the Brotherhood period. As this is a decent low-gen FM copy I thought it would serve it's purpose. You'll have to put up with Mark Radcliffe talking over the start of Elegia, I'm afraid." - FM > Cassette (1st gen) > WAV > CLIT > FLAC - Taped by : Lazlo, from Picadilly Radio FM Broadcast - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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Radio

SECC

Glasgow, Scotland

SECCstasy - "A two-sourcer,...featuring New Order live at the Glasgow S.E.C.C. The FM broadcast was on a tape I had lying around, which was labelled 'F.M. A- Dolby B'...sounding about second generation. The audience tape is first generation, and was taped by Malcolm Beaton, source taper for other fine New Order gigs. I rate the audience tape as superior, not because it is unexpunged but because it has better dynamics. This one's a corker if you're a fan of the Technique album, and features a classic introduction by the one and only Alan Wise. The FM version leaves out the debut performance of All The Way, probably because it's a cock-up as Bernard says, 'Sorry about that. I admit that it was shit. The next one's gonna be good through, because it's all done on computers.' Also features the debut of Run and Loveless, the latter (amazingly) only aired one time afterwards. So the version heard here is likely the only place you will hear this in good quality..." - Lineage (disc 1 aud): M0 > WAV > CD-R (x3?) > EAC (secure) > Nero wav editor (to fix pitch/volume) > CD WAV (tracking) > FLAC (level 8) taped by: Malcolm Beaton - Lineage (disc 2 FM): broadcast > M2 > WAV > CD-R > EAC (secure+SBEfix) > FLAC (Level 8) taped from FM broadcastC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD/Radio

Southern Star Amphitheater (Six Flags Over Georgia)

Atlanta, GA

Silence - Complete Set - "This show was originally released as the bootleg CD "Silence", which has to be one of the worst sounding bootleg CDs I've ever heard, much less spent good hard-earned cash on. But fear you not, I've remastered it so what once was a mediocre-to-poor sounding gig now sounds pretty damn good." - Source: AUD -- "Silence" original silver CD bootleg (Poetry In Motion, POET 9203) Lineage: AUD --> ??? --> Silver CD --> CDex --> WAVs --> Adobe Audition for remastering --> SoundForge (pitch correction and WAV recombining) --> CD Wave (tracksplits) --> FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD

Blossom Music Center

Cuyahoga Falls (Cleveland), OH

Complete Set - "I suspect these are DAT-sourced,.... This one isn't perfect...there's some weird diginoise and even a bit of skipping at the end of track 12 (BLT) and the start of track 13 (Blue Monday). As far as I know, they are also on the upstream copies. I don't know if Drew managed to clean these up before seeding if it is at all possible...in fact what we hear may have been the result of a cleanup to salvage what otherwise would have had to be binned. I personally would have preferred to wait a bit and see about cleaning it up some more, but no matter. What's interesting is that the last track (Fine Time) is the same version as on Retro, except that Retro wrongly attributes it to 30 Jun 89 Chicago instead of Cuyahoga Falls, and criminally crossfades into canned audience cheering instead of preserving Hooky's ending solo. " - SBD -> CD-R -> CD-R -> CD-R -> FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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07/13/89

Jones Beach

Wantagh, New York

Complete Set - Source: 2nd Gen. cassette Lineage: Au2 Cass.->Goldwave->WAV->Goldwave (slowed speed)->FLAC (8) - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD

Pine Knob Music Theatre

Detroit (Clarkston), MI

Complete Set - "...this is (apparently) from DAT soundboard Master. He (The Seeder) found this in a trash can of some studio where New Order recorded Republic." - Source: DAT Master Lineage: DAT0 -> CDR -> EAC -> WAV -> FLAC(Encode 8) - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD

05/03/03

Tiptina's Uptown

New Orleans, LA

2

AUD

Planet Studios

New York (?)

Studio Demos - These demos were recorded in March 1973 at Planet Studios in NYC with Paul Nelson producing. There are a total of 22 tracks in the demos, but most releases contain less. This version has 19 of them - Excellent!.

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Studio

01/29/72

Bataclan

Paris, France

Bataclan - With Lou Reed and John Cale - Beautiful!

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SDB

Edward's No. 8

Birmingham, England

Wired - Incomplete Set - "...there is a complete version of this source circulating, but this one, missing 'School' and 'Stain', is of better qualiy" - Comes coupled with the second part of Wired, 12/03/89,Astoria Theatre (Sub Pop Lame Fest), London, England - A+F 385D > Fostex X-15 > Silver CD ("Wired") > CDR(1) > WAV > FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV Entry 1 of 2 - ALT-2

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AUD

Astoria Theatre (Sub Pop Lame Fest)

London, England

Wired - Incomplete Set - "This source is only available on this bootleg. It is missing 'School', the 'I Wanna Be Your Dog' jam, 'Love Buzz', 'Floyd the Barber' and 'Negative Creep', but it sounds better than the complete source of the show." - Comes coupled with the first part of Wired, 110/29/89, Edward's No. 8, Birmingham, England - Silver CD ("Wired") > CDR(1) > WAV > FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV Entry 2 of 2 - ALT-2

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AUD

Blind Pig

Ann Arbor, MI

Blind Pig Beginnings 1990 - Complete Set

1

AUD

Foufounes, Électriques

Montreal, Canada

Branlez Vous 1990 - Complete Set

1

AUD

The Masquerade

Atlanta, GA

The Masquerade - Complete Set - "The recording is from the soundboard, however, the drums aren't mixed properly and sound like they might have been coming through one of the microphones. Chad sounds like he's hitting cardboard boxes, and the cymbols sound muffled. The first track ("Love Buzz") starts from the middle of the song, and there is a pressing error that causes a blank span of 1 second towards the end of "Stain". There are also 2 places during "Love Buzz" where there is extra "crackle". These complaints aside, this is a very good disc. "

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SDB

Vooruit

Gent, Belgium

Complete Set - 83 Minutes - One small dump sound left between two of the tracks - (Sony PC-62 > Sony WM-D3) Lentgh: .Generation: ANA(M) -> CDR -> WAV -. FLACN - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD

The Palace

Melbourne, Australia

Pre-FM - Complete pre-FM soundboard recording - Pre-FM > DAT > CDR(?) > EAC > SHN - Available in SHN or Audio WAV - ALT-2

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Pre-FM

Roskilde Festival

Roskilde, Denmark

Leer - 78 Minutes - Complete Show - This recording is from a digital audience source and is sharp and clear throughout. - Unknown mic > Sony TCD-D7 - Transfer = Silver CD -> EAC -> WAV -> FLAC - Available in FLAC or Audio WAV

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AUD