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bismillaahir 
rahmaanir rahiim 
in the name of allah, 
rahman, rahim

 

 YA ALI MADAD

 

   'the supposed historical resurrection'     
versus
'so well authenticated by evidence'

 

His Royal Highness Prince Aga Khan III

         Reincarnation or Companionship on High? 

   An article by Imam Hazrat Mowlana Sultan Mahomed Shah (s.a.s.) 

Source: Africa Ismaili Kisumu Supplement, March 28, 1969 

The Christian burial ceremony and the prayers then said by the presiding ecclesiastics refer to resurrection in a way that implies some kind of similarity with

       THE SUPPOSED HISTORICAL  RESURRECTION OF CHRIST THREE DAYS AFTER HIS DEATH. 

      There is the undoubted implication in the Burial Service that a similar resurrection will in time be the fate of those who die in Christianity. 
   
Just as the events of Easter Week become part of Christianity and the hope of men, so the death-bed scene of our Holy Prophet, so well authenticated by evidence, took place in the presence of his two cousins, Ali and Ibn-Abbas, his wives, and above all, his future great successor, the Caliph Omar, then one of his leading companions. All this evidence is exactly the same. 

The last words of the Prophet were "Companionship on High."

           Monday, 22 October 2001

The Aga Khan: "I am amazed by the ignorance of Islam"

PARIS - He is one of the spiritual leaders of Islam who best knows the land and the people of Central Asia, the area which holds the world in suspense. He is the Imam, the religious leader and guide of the Ishamilite, whose communities are spread in various countries of Asia and Africa, but also in Europe and in North America. Throughout Iran, Pakistan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan and West China, there are more than five million Ishmaelite. ......

"I think that monotheistic religions, having an analogous belief in an only God, should and must dialogue. The three religions which Abraham inspired have many more common facets than those which divide them. 

Religion must be a means by which to affirm the ethical significance of existence, irrelevant of one's faith. If we want social development, to meet halfway, to dialogue, peace, we cannot neglect ethics and the impact which education and culture have on social growth." 

[emphasis added, navali]

 

  Islam is for muslims *al--Haqq — the Truth* 

Dhālika Bi'anna Allāha Huwa Al-Ĥaqqu Wa 'Annahu Yuĥyī Al-Mawtaá Wa 'Annahu `Alaá Kulli Shay'in Qadīrun (22:6).    Dhālika Bi'anna Allāha Huwa Al-Ĥaqqu Wa 'Anna Mā Yad`ūna Min Dūnihi Huwa Al-Bāţilu Wa 'Anna Allāha Huwa Al-`Alīyu Al-Kabīru (22:62).

That is because Allah, He is the Truth and because He quickeneth the dead, and because He is Able to do all things(22:6).     That is because Allah, He is the True, and that whereon they call instead of Him, it is the false, and because Allah, He is the High, the Great (22:62).

 

CRITICAL EVIDENCE 
the new testament authenticates 
the gospel of barnabas 
& the holy qur'an 4:157,158

 

DID HE [THE BIBLICAL GOD - ELOHIM], PAY HOMAGE TO ALLAH AND ALSO WORSHIP HIM?

This is a representation of the arrival in BACA [Psalms 84:1-6 -- SEE BELOW] of Haji - PILGRIM YHWH ELOHIM  long before the time of Christ. Some time in the distant past, YHWH ELOHIM had just finished his migration from heaven, babel, salem, sumer, mesopotamia and babylon, the lands of his origin.

 

where was jesus crucified?
in the great city of babylon?
in the great city sodom? 
in the great CITY OF EGYPT? 
jerusalem? 
QUMRAN? 
or rome? 

 the bible 
jesus christ 
' being made a curse for us' -- 'sinful flesh' & 'FORSAKEN'

 

the forlorn christian PILGRIMAGE continues long after jesus

they have no answers or precise spiritual guidance

shalem - salem - peace - islam

Eli   WITH   DAVID

&

ELI   WITH   JESUS

 

jesus invoked 'MY GOD --ELI' in the divine realm. he will return with a NEW NAME! 

Psalms 22:1 (KJVSL) A Psalm of David  My God <'el>, my God <'el>, why hast thou forsaken  me? 

Matthew 27:46 (KJVSL) And about the ninth hour  Jesus <Iesous> cried with a loud voice , saying , ELI <ELI>, ELI <ELI>,  lama <lama> sabachthani <sabachthani>? that <toutesti> is to say, MY <MOU> GOD <THEOS> MY <MOU> GOD <THEOS> why hast thou forsaken me? 2241. eli Search for G2241 in KJVSL hli eli ay-lee' of Hebrew origin (410 with pronominal suffix); my God:-- Eli. 410. 'el Search for H410 in KJVSL la 'el ale shortened from 352; strength; as adjective, mighty; especially the Almighty (but used also of any deity):--God (god), X goodly, X great, idol, might(-y one), power, strong. Compare names in "-el."

Revelation 3:12 (KJVSL) Him that overcometh will I make a pillar in the temple of  MY <MOU> GOD <THEOS>, ELI <ELI>, and he shall go no more out and I will write upon him the name of  MY <MOU> GOD <THEOS>, ELI <ELI>,  and the name of the city of  MY <MOU> GOD <THEOS>, ELI <ELI>,  which is new Jerusalem , which cometh down out of heaven from MY <MOU> GOD <THEOS>: ELI <ELI>,  and I will write upon him MY <MOU> NEW <KAINOS> NAME <ONOMA>.

easton's bible dictionary   

        Eli ascent, the high priest [IMAM] when the ark was at Shiloh [PEACE--ISLAM] (1Sa 1:3,9). He was the first of the line of Ithamar, AARON'S fourth son (1Ch 24:3; comp. 2Sa 8:17), who held that office -- [imamate in islam.] 

did the faithful christians fail to understand their own scripture?  

jesus explained

see how jesus explained the psalms of david as well, guided the faithful to the eternal faith of islam. his teaching and practice were simultaneously centered around the islamic dispensation of his time.

Psalms 118:22 (KJV) The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner. Psalms 118:23 (KJV) This is the LORD'S doing; it is marvellous in our eyes.

The words of the cry are found at Psalms 22:1. "Eli" is Hebrew, "Eloi" Aramaic or Syro-Chaldaic for "My God." The former would be used by Jesus if  he quoted the Scripture, the latter if he spoke the language of the people. 

Mt 27:46	And about the ninth hour Jesus gave a loud cry, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is, My God, my God, why are you turned away from me?
Mt 27:47	And some of those who were near by, hearing it, said, This man is crying to Elijah.

hyla 'Eliyah (ay-lee-yaw');  Proper Name Masculine, Strong #: 452 Elijah or Eliah = "my God is Jehovah" or "Yah(u) is God" the great prophet of the reign of Ahab452. 'Eliyah Search for H452 in KJVSL hyla 'Eliyah ay-lee-yaw' or prolonged tEliyahuw {ay-lee-yaw'-hoo}; from 410 and 3050; God of Jehovah; Elijah, the name of the famous prophet and of two other Israelites:--Elijah, Eliah.3050. Yahh Search for H3050 in KJVSL hy Yahh yaw contraction for 3068, and meaning the same; Jah, the sacred name:--Jah, the Lord, most vehement. Compare names in "-iah," "- jah." See Hebrew 3068 410. 'el Search for H410 in KJVSL la 'el ale shortened from 352; strength; as adjective, mighty; especially the Almighty (but used also of any deity):--God (god), X goodly, X great, idol, might(-y one), power, strong. Compare names in "-el."

ejlwi? Eloi (el-o-ee');  Noun Masculine, Strong #: 1682

Eloi = "my God"

1. Aramaic for the phrase "my God"

Matthew 21:42 (KJV) Jesus saith unto them, Did ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which the builders rejected, the same is become the head of the corner: this is the Lord's doing, and it is marvellous in our eyes? Matthew 21:43 (KJV) Therefore say I unto you, The kingdom of God shall be taken from you, and given to a nation bringing forth the fruits thereof. 

Matthew 8:11 (KJV) And I say unto you, That many shall come from the east and west, and shall sit down with Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, in the kingdom of heaven. Matthew 8:12 (KJV) But the children of the kingdom shall be cast out into outer darkness: there shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth.

ishmael was 'The stone' which the builders rejected.

Genesis 3:15 (KJV) And I will put enmity between thee and the woman, and between thy seed and her seed; it shall bruise thy head, and thou shalt bruise his heel.

the divine blessing

Genesis 17:20 (KJV) And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee: Behold, I have blessed him, and will make him fruitful, and will multiply him exceedingly; twelve princes shall he beget, and I will make him a great nation.

not only do these irrefutable biblical facts speak for themselves but also according to the bible, the ishmaelites and the israelites were the two main nations. they had a common patriarch father in abraham. 

continued

excerpts

a 'foi'  conspiracy uncovered

[SEE BELOW --- Not fully understanding the cross can cause problems for believers -- the christian ministry, friends of israel]  

 

•     what kind of cross or crosses were they really talking about??

  •     could this be anymore than just conjectures??  

•     have they also adulterated the christian faith of trinity?? 

•     like they say, 'a picture speaks a thousand words.' 

see the irrefutable evidence below.  

 

the bible's irrefutable reply to:

  friends of israel 

says larry mitchell [Friends of Israel - calgary, alberta] God's standard is the 10 commandments given by the prophet Moses.  

1.      Thou shalt have no other gods before me. (such as Buddha, A_l_l_a_h, Lucifer, Krishna or other pagan deities). God condemns all those who try to come "another way". John 3:36 

3. My conclusion: Mohammed was a false prophet, and the Koran is full of errors! Jesus is the Son of God, and He die d for our sins.  

           CONVERTING THE MONOTHEISTIC ISRAELITES TO A 'NON-CHRISTIAN' TRITHEISTIC  CULT.   

3 crosses

a.    new innovation and a cult of the '3-three black-satanic' crosses 

b.    what do they represent in the present day christianity which they claim to profess and propagate? 

c.    irrefutable proof in black and white

   in the name of the CRUCIFIED god, the FATHER 
in the name of the CRUCIFIED god, the SON   

in the name of the CRUCIFIED god, the HOLY GHOST 

 

and steve van nattan, a self-proclaimed 'jack_ass' of the christian world

DON'T RUN AWAY:
       Blessed Quietness Journal...
              Was formerly Balaam's Ass Speaks

'there is power in the blood' says this self proclaimed and foulmouthed  'jack_ass' [pastor: steve van nattan] of the christian world. this is how low a man of his calibre could and did stoop.  check it out!

CHAPTER THREE:

Will the true Scripture Please Stand Up?

Part Two: Al Koran, from Jehovah or Jinn?

While many religions rise and fall over the ages, the ones that stay with us are the ones which have a well developed scripture as their foundation. This is true of the Hindus with their Bagivad Gita and the Mormons with their twenty odd feet of written revelation, but it is of the highest consideration in the comparison of the Bible of Christianity with the Koran of Islam. These two faiths rise or fall on the authority of their scriptures, so we start here by comparing Islam and biblical Christianity.

The only text we will be using is the King James Bible. In Biblical Christianity we have an absolute faith in the literal use of the Bible for all matters of faith, social exchange, politics, and hope of the future. We assume the Muslim reader would claim the same for his Koran and the Hadith of Muhammed. So, this is our starting point-- one Bible and one Koran.

Allah, Divine or Demonic Chapter Four.htm

God has no wife, yet, in the spiritual world of Heaven and eternity, it is possible for a Son to be eternal, to be God, yet one with the Father. This is a mystery, but it is the central mystery of the Bible, and no one can become truly "saved" or converted without believing this truth. The truth is witnesses from heaven, not from Mecca or even from Jerusalem:

Bible, 1 John 5:6 This is he that came by water and blood, even Jesus Christ; not by water only, but by water and blood. And it is the Spirit that beareth witness, because the Spirit is truth.
7 For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one.
8 And there are three that bear witness in earth, the Spirit, and the water, and the blood: and these three agree in one.
9 If we receive the witness of men, the witness of God is greater: for this is the witness of God which he hath testified of his Son.

contradiction

^{trinity in the bible? see  1.2.2.5 1 John 5:7}

jesus & pure monotheism

'jesus, the messias -- called the christ'  -- was only a teacher.

some enthusiastic christians may worship jesus all they want but jesus himself worshipped god, the father.

Allah, Divine or Demonic Chapter Three.htm

[ a ] Jesus never told anyone to worship Mary, nor did the early church do so. It was later that the Roman Catholic Church introduced this blasphemy. But, Jesus DID invite and permit his true followers to worship only Him as God: Jesus never rejected worship from His followers because Jesus knew He was God, so Muhammed lied in the Koran, Sura 5:116, when he added words to Jesus mouth which he never could say. 

did jesus allow his followers to WORSHIP HIM in the same sense as he worshipped the lord god of israel? if so, why did he direct them to 'PRAY to your father' in heaven? 

how could someone take such 'flimsy evidence'  in order to CORRUPT the faith and teaching of jesus?

did they become divine and worthy of worship?

moses is god

Exodus 7:1 (KJV) And the LORD said unto Moses, See, I have made thee a god to Pharaoh: and Aaron thy brother shall be thy prophet.

david is god

Psalms 45:3 (KJV) Gird thy sword upon [thy] thigh, O [most] mighty, with thy glory and thy majesty. Psalms 45:4 (KJV) And in thy majesty ride prosperously because ....  Psalms 45:6 (KJV) Thy throne, O God [david], [is] for ever and ever: the sceptre of thy kingdom [is] a right sceptre. Psalms 45:7 (KJV) Thou lovest righteousness, and hatest wickedness: therefore God, thy God [david], hath anointed thee with the oil of gladness above thy fellows.   Psalms 110:1 (KJV) <<A Psalm of David.>> The LORD said unto my Lord [david], Sit thou at my right hand, until I make thine enemies thy footstool.

did the lord god of israel himself say anything like this to or about  jesus? let the christians prove it.

the god of his time PROSTRATED to a kohen- IMAM--PRIEST of his time.

peace <shalowm> -- moses a prophet of islam

peace <shalowm> -&- everlasting <`owlam> priesthood <k@hunnah> <imamat>

Numbers 25:12 (KJVSL) Wherefore say Behold, I give unto him my covenant <b@riyth> of peace <shalowm>:Numbers 25:13 (KJVSL) And he shall have it, and his seed <zera`> after him, [even] the covenant <b@riyth> of an everlasting <`owlam> priesthood <k@hunnah>; because <'aher> he was zealous <qana'> for his God <'elohiym>, and made an atonement <kaphar> for the children <ben> of Israel <Yisra'el>.

Exodus 18:1 (KJVSL) When Jethro the priest <kohen>  <imam> of Midian Moses father in law heard of all that God <'elohiym> had done for Moses and for Israel his people [and] that the LORD <Y@hovah> had brought Israel out of Egypt 
Exodus 18:7 (KJVSL) And Moses went out to meet his father in law and did obeisance <shachah>, and kissed him; and they asked  each other of peace <shalowm> welfare <7965>; and they came into the tent. {welfare: Heb. peace}

Exodus 4:18 (KJVSL) And Moses went and returned to Jethro his father in law  and said unto him, .... And Jethro said to Moses, Go in peace <shalowm>. Judges 18:6 (KJVSL) And the priest <kohen> <imam> said  unto them, Go in peace <shalowm>: before  the LORD <Y@hovah> is your way wherein ye go.

~wlX Shalowm (shaw-lome');  Noun Masculine, Strong #: 7965

1. completeness, soundness, welfare, peace
   1. completeness (in number)
   2. safety, soundness (in body)
   3. welfare, health, prosperity
   4. peace, quiet, tranquillity, contentment
   5. peace, friendship
      1. of human relationships
      2. with God especially in covenant relationship
   6. peace (from war)
   7. peace (as adjective)

1.    could it apply to islam--peace as well? well, allah established the aaronic priesthood in  the mosaic era and the alid imamate - imamate of ali [as] in islam during the holy prophet muhammad's [pbuth] era.

2.    could it apply to islam--peace as well? well, this was a midianite-ishmaelite priest - kohen -imam. moses was married to his daughter, an ishmaelite. 

would this then, make moses a prophet of islam as well? all internal evidence points in that direction.

Ishmeelites

Genesis 37:25 (KJV) And they sat down to eat bread: and they lifted up their eyes and looked, and, behold, a company of Ishmeelites came from Gilead with their camels bearing spicery and balm and myrrh, going to carry [it] down to Egypt.

Ishmeelites

Genesis 37:27 (KJV) Come, and let us sell him to the Ishmeelites, Genesis 37:28 (KJV) Then there passed by Midianites merchantmen; and they drew and lifted up Joseph out of the pit, and sold Joseph to the Ishmeelites for twenty [pieces] of silver: and they brought Joseph into Egypt. 

Midianites

Genesis 37:36 (KJV) And the Midianites sold him into Egypt unto Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh's, [and] captain of the guard. 

Ishmeelites

Genesis 39:1 (KJV) And Joseph was brought down to Egypt; and Potiphar, an officer of Pharaoh, captain of the guard, an Egyptian, bought him of the hands of the Ishmeelites, which had brought him down thither.

and the confusion continues!

'they bowed the knee before him, and mocked him [jesus]'

Matthew 27:29 (KJV) And when they had platted a crown of thorns, they put it upon his head, and a reed in his right hand: and they bowed the knee before him, and mocked him, saying, Hail, King of the Jews!

they worshipped the baal and provoked the lord god of israel

Judges 2:11 (KJV) And the children of Israel did evil in the sight of the LORD, and served Baalim: Judges 2:12 (KJV) And they forsook the LORD God of their fathers, which brought them out of the land of Egypt, and followed other gods, of the gods of the people that were round about them, and bowed themselves unto them, and provoked the LORD to anger. Judges 2:13 (KJV) And they forsook the LORD, and served Baal and Ashtaroth. Judges 2:14 (KJV) And the anger of the LORD was hot against Israel, 

Judges 2:13 (KJV) And they forsook the LORD, and served Baal and Ashtaroth. 1 Kings 16:32 (KJV) And he reared up an altar for Baal in the house of Baal, which he had built in Samaria.

2 Kings 21:3 (KJV) For he built up again the high places which Hezekiah his father had destroyed; and he reared up altars for Baal, and made a grove, as did Ahab king of Israel; and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served them. 2 Kings 17:16 (KJV) And they left all the commandments of the LORD their God, and made them molten images, even two calves, and made a grove, and worshipped all the host of heaven, and served Baal. 1 Kings 16:31 (KJV) .. that he took to wife Jezebel the daughter of Ethbaal king of the Zidonians, and went and served Baal, and worshipped him. 1 Kings 22:53 (KJV) For he served Baal, and worshipped him, and provoked to anger the LORD God of Israel, according to all that his father had done.

tradition of the time and place ignored and/or misinterpreted

Genesis 23:7 (KJV) And Abraham stood up, and bowed himself to the people of the land, even to the children of Heth. Genesis 23:12 (KJV) And Abraham bowed down himself before the people of the land. Genesis 33:3 (KJV) And he [jacob] passed over before them, and bowed himself to the ground seven times, until he came near to his brother [esau]. Genesis 42:6 (KJV) And Joseph was the governor over the land, and he it was that sold to all the people of the land: and Joseph's brethren came, and bowed down themselves before him with their faces to the earth. Genesis 43:28 (KJV) And they answered, Thy servant our father is in good health, he is yet alive. And they bowed down their heads, and made obeisance. 1 Samuel 25:23 (KJV) And when Abigail saw David, she hasted, and lighted off the ass, and fell before David on her face, and bowed herself to the ground, 2 Samuel 14:4 (KJV) And when the woman of Tekoah spake to the king, she fell on her face to the ground, and did obeisance, and said, Help, O king.

Genesis 33:3 (KJV) And he [jacob] passed over before them, AND BOWED HIMSELF TO THE GROUND SEVEN TIMES, until he came near to his brother [esau]. Genesis 33:6 (KJV) Then the handmaidens came near, they and their children, AND THEY BOWED THEMSELVES. Genesis 33:10 (KJV) And Jacob said, Nay, I pray thee, if now I have found grace in thy sight, then receive my present at my hand: for therefore I [jacob] have seen THY [esau] FACE, as though I [jacob] had seen the FACE OF GOD, and thou wast pleased with me. Genesis 33:13 (KJV) And he [jacob] said unto him [esau], MY LORD knoweth that the children [are] tender, and the flocks and herds with young [are] with me: and if men should overdrive them one day, all the flock will die.

Genesis 43:28 (KJV) And they answered, Thy servant our father is in good health, he is yet alive. And they bowed down their heads, and made obeisance. 2 Samuel 1:2 (KJV) and so it was, when he came to David, that he fell to the earth, and did obeisance. 1 Kings 1:16 (KJV) And Bathsheba bowed, and did obeisance unto the king [to david her own husband]. And the king said, What wouldest thou? 1 Kings 1:17 (KJV) And she said unto him, My lord, thou swarest by the LORD thy God unto thine handmaid, saying, Assuredly Solomon thy son shall reign after me, and he shall sit upon my throne.

so what if he/they 'worshipped jesus'? did he become divine?		compare: similar examples in the bible 'bow - worshipped'
claim based on flimsy evidence tradition of the time and place ignored and/or  misinterpreted 'jack_ass' - Allah, Divine - Chap_ 26- Gospel, al injil, to Muslims, Arabs.htm Bible, Matthew 8:2, And, behold, there came a leper and worshipped him, saying, Lord, if thou wilt, thou canst make me clean. And Jesus put forth his hand, and touched him, saying, I will; be thou clean. And immediately his leprosy was cleansed. Matthew 9:18, While he spake these things unto them, behold, there came a certain ruler, and worshipped him, saying, My daughter is even now dead: but come and lay thy hand upon her, and she shall live. And Jesus arose, and followed him, and so did his disciples. Matthew 14:33, Then they that were in the ship came and worshipped him, saying, Of a truth thou art the Son of God. Matthew 28:9, And as they went to tell his disciples, behold, Jesus met them, saying, All hail. And they came and held him by the feet, and worshipped him. Then said Jesus unto them, Be not afraid: go tell my brethren that they go into Galilee, and there shall they see me. The Bible, The Revelation 13:8, And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him, whose names are not written in the book of life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world. compare: similar examples in the bible 'bow - worshipped' Revelation 16:2 (KJV) And the first went, and poured out his vial upon the earth; and there fell a noisome and grievous sore upon the men which had the mark of the beast, and upon them which worshipped his image.		tradition of the time and place ignored and/or  misinterpreted Acts 10:25 (KJV) And as Peter was coming in, Cornelius met him, and fell down at his feet, and worshipped him. [did this make peter - divine?] Hebrews 11:21 (KJV) By faith Jacob, when he was a dying, blessed both the sons of Joseph; and worshipped, leaning upon the top of his staff.  [did this make joseph divine?] Matthew 9:18 (YLT) While he is speaking these things to them, lo, a ruler having come, was bowing to him, [did this make jesus divine?] Revelation 13:8 Verse 8. And all that dwell upon the earth shall worship him. That is, as immediately stated, all whose names are not in the book of life. On the word worship, Cmt. on Re 13:4. Revelation 13:8 (YLT) And bow before it shall all who are dwelling upon the land, whose names have not been written in the scroll of the life of the Lamb slain from the foundation of the world; Revelation 13:4 (KJV) And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast: and they worshipped the beast, saying, Who is like unto the beast? who is able to make war with him? Verse 4. And they worshipped the dragon which gave power unto the beast. Cmt. on Re 12:3; Cmt. on Re 13:2. That is, they in fact worshipped him.  The word worship --troskunew-- is not always, however, used in a religious sense.  It means, properly, to kiss; to kiss towards any one; that is, to kiss his own hand and to extend it towards a person, in token of respect and homage.-- Rob. Lex. Compare Job 31:27. Then it means to show respect to one who is our superior; to kings and princes; to parents; and pre-eminently to God.  Cmt. on Mt 2:2. The word may be used here to mean that homage or reverence, as to a higher power, was rendered to the "dragon;" not strictly that he was openly worshipped in a religious sense as God. [did this make the dragon divine?] Genesis 47:31 (KJV) And he said, Swear unto me. And he sware unto him. And Israel bowed himself upon the bed's head.
jesus did not demand their worship - they did it voluntarily		did they become divine?

If you reject The Lord Jesus Christ as your only Savior, and if you cling to the bloodless works of Islam, and the seven trips around the Kaaba, then you will be forced one day to worship Jesus in spite of your rebellion, just before He sends you to Hell

although the said 'jack_ass' had quoted a few WEAK VERSES to make his point, the above contradicts the very essence of jesus' jewish heritage, monotheistic faith and practice thereof.

jesus defines 'the true worshippers'

Matthew 6:9 (KJV) After this manner therefore pray ye: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Matthew 6:6 (KJV) But thou, when thou prayest, enter into thy closet, and when thou hast shut thy door, pray to thy Father which is in secret; and thy Father which seeth in secret shall reward thee openly.

John 14:16 (KJV) And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter, that he may abide with you for ever; 

John 4:22 (KJV) Ye worship ye know not what: we know what we worship: for salvation is of the Jews. John 4:23 (KJV) But the hour cometh, and now is, when the true worshippers shall worship the Father in spirit and in truth: for the Father seeketh such to worship him. John 4:24 (KJV) God is a Spirit: and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. John 4:25 (KJV) The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. John 4:26 (KJV) Jesus saith unto her, I that speak unto thee am he.

meaning: jesus was only the expected messias - christ and teacher and not the divine entity, 'I that speak unto thee am he.' 

please note again: the woman saith unto him, 'i know that MESSIAS cometh, which is called CHRIST: when he is come, HE WILL TELL US ALL THINGS. '

         John 4:26 Jesus saith unto her, I THAT SPEAK unto thee AM HE. 

jesus affirms that he was the expected 'messias which is called the christ(?, navali).'   'messias' means the christ, does it not? 

more importantly, jesus did not direct any worship unto himself. rather, he asked his followers to worship the father in spirit and truth. and for this purpose, he was recognized as the 'expected messias,' by the woman of samaria. 

she did not recognize him as 'divine or the son of god.' the jews were not expecting such a 'divine being' either.

Ephesians 4:6 (KJV) One God and Father of all,
who is above all, and through all,
and in you all.

John 17:3 (KJV) And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent.

1 Corinthians 8:6 (KJV) But to us there is but one God, the Father, of whom are all things, and we in him; and one Lord Jesus Christ, by whom are all things, and we by him.

1 Timothy 1:17 (KJV) Now unto the King eternal, immortal, invisible, the only wise God, be honour and glory for ever and ever. Amen.

Jude 1:4 (KJV) turning the grace of our God into lasciviousness, and denying the only Lord God, and our Lord Jesus Christ. Jude 1:25 (KJV) To the only wise God our Saviour, be glory and majesty, dominion and power, both now and ever. Amen.

Strange contradiction! Jesus, whom we are asked to worship as the one living God, is found, immediately after his Resurrection, saying to Mary Magdalene: "I am not yet ascended to my Father; but go to my brethren, and say unto them, I ascend unto my Father and your Father, and to my God and your God!" (John 20:17.)

Allah, Divine or Demonic Chapter Four.htm

God has no wife, yet, in the spiritual world of Heaven and eternity, it is possible for a Son to be eternal, to be God, yet one with the Father.

'seeing I know not a man' - procreation?

Luke 1:34 (KJV) Then said Mary unto the angel, How shall this be, seeing I know not a man?
Luke 1:35 (KJV) And the angel answered and said unto her, The Holy Ghost shall come upon thee, and the power of the Highest shall overshadow thee: therefore also that holy thing which shall be born of thee shall be called <kalew kaleo kal-eh'-o> the Son of God.

^{care to explain this bedroom language: luke 1:34-35?}

please note that jesus was conceived by the holy ghost only. he shall be 'called <kalew kaleo kal-eh'-o>  the son of god.' meaning: he was NOT physically begotten of god, the father! 

Galatians 4:4 (KJVSL) But when the fulness of the time was come God <theos> sent forth <exapostello> his <autos> Son <huios>, made of a woman  made under the law <nomos>,

and just what law might that [his <autos> Son <huios>, made of a woman ] be mr. 'jack_ass'??

 Yahshua the Messiah is Not Almighty Yahweh

 Modern day Christians believe that Yahshua the Messiah pre-existed in some form or another. Some say he was Melchizedek, some say he was "the captain of the host of Yahweh" (Josh.5:14), some say he was the archangel Michael, others say he was the "angel of Yahweh". Perhaps the most erroneous view is that Yahshua was the "Yahweh" (LORD) of the Old Testament. This study is written in the hopes that all who read it will finally understand that Yahweh is the Almighty Creator of the heavens and the earth, and that Yahshua the Messiah is His Son, as it is written.

For some reason people feel they have to magnify the Savior into the position of the Almighty when, in fact, scripture makes it quite clear that the Father is greatest of all and the "head of Messiah" (1 Cor.11:3). Consider Yahshua's own words in Jn. 14:28, "...for my Father is greater than I."; Jn.10:29, "My Father, which gave them me, is greater than all..."; and Jn. 13:16, "Verily, verily, I say unto you, The servant [Yahshua] is not greater than his lord [Yahweh]; neither he that is sent [Yahshua] greater than he that sent him [Yahweh]." These verses teach us Yahshua's view of his relationship to his Father. Notice he didn't claim to be the Father but instead, made a clear distinction between the two.

Allah, Divine or Demonic Chapter Five.htm

There must be a payment for sin. Islam has no sacrifice and no payment for sin. Jesus paid the penalty in full when he died and shed his blood like a sacrificial lamb, for that holy blood was without sin. Thus, that holy blood of Jesus has washed away the sins of all men. All the sin of all men was put on Him, so there is no penalty to pay for those who ask God for this Salvation through The Lord Jesus Christ. Muhammed refused to take responsibility for his sins, so he had to mock at the death of Jesus and His resurrection. To believe in the resurrection of Jesus, Muhammed would be admitting there was a good reason for it. That would force Muhammed to deal with his personal need for forgiveness of sin. This Muhammed would NOT do.

Bible, Romans 5:7-8, For scarcely for a righteous man will one die: yet peradventure for a good man some would even dare to die. But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.

We are all dead and going to Hell until the blood of Jesus' sacrifice is applied to us. That is done by God the Holy Spirit when we believe the Gospel, the Injil of Jesus Christ.

Bible, I John 1:7, But if we walk in the light, as he (Jesus) is in the light, we have fellowship one with another, and the blood of Jesus Christ his Son cleanseth us from all sin.

how true and valid is mr. 'jack_ass'' bombastic claim?

proof

'holy blood, curse and/or sinful flesh'

Romans 8:32 (KJV) He that spared not his own Son, 

Matthew 27:46 (KJV) And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

Romans 8:3 (KJV) , God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, Romans 11:21 (KJV) For if God spared not the natural branches, take heed lest he also spare not thee. 

Galatians 3:13 (KJVSL) Christ <Christos> ....  being made a curse <katara> for us  for it is written Cursed <epikataratos> is every one that hangeth <kremannumi> <2910> on a tree <xulon>:  [see zohurul hoque#note4:159, pp. 169]

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 corrupting the 'word of god'

rest assured, corrupting the 'word of god' and, still claiming it to be the unadulterated 'word of god,' comes naturally to some people - ['jack_ass']. SEE ALSO What I Believe via the KJV.

christian sources

When speaking in reference to the Messiah, I do not use the name "Jesus". I restore this to His true name Yahushua because Jesus was never His real name.

Comments on the Trinity Doctrine

Deuteronomy 6:4 - Hear, O Israel: YAHWEH is our Elohim, YAHWEH is one: 

Mark 12:29 (KJVSL) And Jesus answered him The first of all the commandments is, Hear O Israel ; The Lord <kurios> our God <theos> is one <heis> Lord <kurios>

Matthew 19:17 - And he said unto him, Why callest thou me good? there is none good but one, that is, YAHWEH: but if thou wilt enter into life, keep the commandments.

John 17:3 - And this is life eternal, that they might know thee, the only true Elohim, and Yahushua the Messiah, whom thou hast sent.
Yahushua called Him the only true Elohim.

Revelations 3:12 - "He who overcomes, I will make him a pillar in the temple of My Elohim, and he shall go out no more. And I will write on him the name of My Elohim and the name of the city of My Elohim, the New Jerusalem, which comes down out of heaven from My Elohim. And I will write on him My new name.

TRINITY in the bible(?)

^{1 John 5 :: New International Version (NIV)}

^{7 For there are three that testify: 8the[1] Spirit, 
the water and the blood; 
and the three are in agreement.
 
Footnotes
5:7,8 Late manuscripts of the Vulgate testify in heaven: the Father, the Word and the Holy Spirit, and these three are one. 8 And there are three that testify on earth: the (not found in any Greek manuscript before the sixteenth century)}

1 John 5 :: New American Standard Bible (NASB)

1. ⁷   For there are ⁽¹⁴⁾ three that testify:
   ^8   [2] the Spirit and the water and the blood; and the three are in agreement.

here's the truth about the BIBLICAL 'TRINITY' according to the christian sources only.

Yahweh / Yahshua
Yahshua the Messiah is Not Almighty Yahweh. Modern day Christians believe that Yahshua the Messiah pre-existed in some form or another. ...
www.ipass.net/~jcordaro/yahweh_yahshua.html [see above]

1Jo 5:7
      7. three--Two or three witnesses were required by law to constitute adequate testimony. The only Greek manuscripts in any form which support the words, "in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost, and these three are one; and there are three that bear witness in earth," are the Montfortianus of Dublin, copied evidently from the modern Latin Vulgate; the Ravianus, copied from the Complutensian Polyglot; a manuscript at Naples, with the words added in the Margin by a recent hand; Ottobonianus, 298, of the fifteenth century, the Greek of which is a mere translation of the accompanying Latin. 

All the old versions omit the words. The oldest manuscripts of the Vulgate omit them: the earliest Vulgate manuscript which has them being Wizanburgensis, 99, of the eighth century. 

And said Tom Harpur:

*What is most embarrassing for the Church is the  difficulty of proving any of these statements of dogma from the New Testament documents. 

You simply CANNOT FIND the doctrine of the TRINITY set out anywhere in the Bible. St. Paul has the highest view of  Jesus' role and person, BUT NOWHERE does he call him God. NOR does Jesus himself anywhere explicitly claim to be the Second Person of the Trinity, wholly equal to his heavenly Father. As a pious Jew, he would have been shocked and offended by such an idea. 

This research has led me to believe that the great majority of regular churchgoers are, for all practical purposes, TRITHEISTS. That is, they profess to believe in one God, but in REALITY worship three. Small wonder Christianity has always had difficulty trying to convert Jews and Muslims. Members of both these faiths have such an abhorrence of anything that runs counter to their monotheism, or faith in the unity of God, that a seemingly POLYTHEISTIC gospel has little appeal for them.*[For Christ's Sake, pp. 8].

^{1.2.2.5 1 John 5:7}
The only verses in the whole Bible that explicitly ties God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit in one "Triune" being is the verse of 1 John 5:7 

"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, 
and the Holy Ghost: 
and these three are one."

This is the type of clear, decisive, and to-the-point verse I have been asking for. However, as I would later find out, this verse is now universally recognized as being a later "insertion" of the Church and all recent versions of the Bible, such as the Revised Standard Version the New Revised Standard Version, the New American Standard Bible, the New English Bible, the Phillips Modern English Bible ...etc. have all unceremoniously expunged this verse from their pages. Why is this? The scripture translator Benjamin Wilson gives the following explanation for this action in his "Emphatic Diaglott." Mr. Wilson says:

"This text concerning the heavenly witness is not contained in any Greek manuscript which was written earlier than the fifteenth century. It is not cited by any of the ecclesiastical writers; not by any of early Latin fathers even when the subjects upon which they treated would naturally have lead them to appeal to it's authority. It is therefore evidently spurious."

Others, such as the late Dr. Herbert W. Armstrong argued that this verse was added to the Latin Vulgate edition of the Bible during the heat of the controversy between Rome, Arius , and God's people.

  The 134 Passages Where The Sopherim Altered "Jehovah" to "Adonai". This Is Appendix 32 From The Companion Bible. 

  The "Eighteen Emendations" of the Sopherim.
This Is Appendix 33 From The Companion Bible.

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christ called them 'the synagogues of satan' 

Revelation 2:23 And I will kill her children with death; and all the churches shall know 
that I am he which searcheth the reins and hearts: and I will give unto every one of you 
ACCORDING TO YOUR WORKS.

Revelation 2:9 (KJV) I know thy works, and tribulation, and poverty, (but thou art rich) and I know the blasphemy of them which say they are Jews, and are not, but are the synagogue of Satan.  Revelation 3:9 (KJV) Behold, I will make them of the synagogue of Satan, which say they are Jews, and are not, but do lie; behold, I will make them to come and worship before thy feet, and to know that I have loved thee.

meaning:

'the 'blood of jesus' will avail them not

 

foi adds 3-three 'black-satanic' crosses to the faith and practice of christianity

 

        The Satanic Trinity     As if one evil being weren’t enough, the Bible teaches that in the last days, there will be three—a pseudotrinity—that will take over the world.

 

   latest innovation, ADDITION & DECEPTION.

A MASTER PLOT j_u_s_t UNCOVERED

3--three BLACK CROSSES printed above the word 'confirmation.'  

proof

navali:  meaning

   in the name of the CRUCIFIED god, the FATHER 
in the name of the CRUCIFIED god, the SON   

in the name of the CRUCIFIED god, the HOLY GHOST 

is this the latest innovation and DECEPTION in what is known as the 'judeo - christian cult'? - see foi article dated january/february 2002.

 

Luke 6:44 (KJV) For every tree is known by his own fruit. For of thorns men do not gather figs, nor of a bramble bush gather they grapes.

[see also Israel My Glory Magazine

(1)  confirmation of jesus' messiahship,' pp. 15-17;  (2) 'coming again' by herb hirt, january/february 2002 -- pp. 18-20]

 

dubious support for a 'Zionist plot uncovered'

         'my god is a zionist' -- god had loved the jewish people with an everlasting love. [ref jeremiah 31:3; jeremiah 31:35-37;] ; larry mitchell, ['birth of pangs-- may 29, 2002 -- foi]

           As to your second question, about the "Lord OUR God being one Lord", it is a quote from Deuteronomy 6:4, and simply means that the LORD was the God and only God of the nation Israel as opposed to the other nations who did not worship the LORD, because it was only with Israel that the LORD made a covenant. The "our" pertains to Israelites as a nation.

I hope this is helpful.

Herb Hirt
Director, Institute of Jewish Studies 

  says larry mitchell [Friends of Israel - calgary, alberta] God's standard is the 10 commandments given by the prophet Moses.  

1.      Thou shalt have no other gods before me. (such as Buddha, A_l_l_a_h, Lucifer, Krishna or other pagan deities). God condemns all those who try to come "another way". John 3:36 

2.          Thou shalt not bow down to any graven images. (including c_r_u_c_i_f_i_x_e_s, images of Mary, or Buddha). God condemns all idolaters. Revelation 21:8  

3. My conclusion: Mohammed was a false prophet, and the Koran is full of errors! Jesus is the Son of God, and He die d for our sins.  

is he reading the same bible as everyone else?

despite their bombastic claims and passion for the god of israel, etc., friends of israel, the other judeo-christians and the pauline christians have all FORSAKEN OR VIOLATED the very core of these godly commandments - for some man-made traditions against which, jesus warned the israelites of his day.

Roots of Our Faith

The cross as a means of execution was used only a couple of centuries before Yeshua, yet there are prophecies in the Tanach from much earlier which give deep insight about what was to occur on that "t_r_e_e."

[see also  Israel My Glory Magazine

 (1)  confirmation of jesus' messiahship,' pp. 15-17; (2) 'coming again' by . 15-17; (2) 'coming again' by herb hirt, january/february 2002 -- pp. 18-20]

hence, it matters not whether one upholds the judeo-christian cross, the christian crucifix and/or the tau cross per se. all of that is simply academic at this point.

Exodus 20:4 Thou shalt not make unto thee ANY GRAVEN IMAGE, OR ANY LIKENESS OF any thing that is in heaven above, OR THAT IS IN THE EARTH BENEATH, or that is in the water under the earth:

Isaiah 42:8 I am Jehovah, THAT IS MY NAME; and my glory will I not give to another, neither my praise to GRAVEN IMAGES. Isaiah 42:10 Sing unto JEHOVAH a new song, 

Matthew 15:3 But he answered and said unto them, Why do ye also transgress the commandment of God by your tradition?

here's all the proof you need to verify and judge the matter  for yourself. 

contradicting the very foundation of christianity

    Home > Catholic Encyclopedia > C > The True Cross

the True Cross

(AND REPRESENTATIONS OF IT AS OBJECTS OF DEVOTION).

(1) Growth Of the Christian Cult; (2) Catholic Doctrine on the Veneration of the Cross; (3) Relics of the True Cross; (4) Principal Feasts of the Cross.

I. GROWTH OF THE CHRISTIAN CULT

The Cross to which Christ had been nailed, and on which He had died, became for Christians, quite naturally and logically, the object of a special respect and w_o_r_s_h_i_p.

for St. Paul the Cross of Christ was not only a precious remembrance of Christ's sufferings and death, but also a symbol closely associated with His sacrifice and the mystery of the Passion.

Christian Symbols and icons

The Latin cross was adopted as the official symbol of the Christian religion at the Council of Nicaea, convened by Constantine in 325 AD. It represents Jesus' sacrifice, but since it does not show His body, it also represents His resurrection.

 The Tau cross is in the shape of the Greek letter "T", and represents prophecy, - or the Old Testament. 

 

in one of his [larry mitchell], more recent pamphlets this individual also wrote and i quote:

presently the majority of these [ismaelite-arabs & muslims] dear souls are lost.  ISLAM CANNOT NOT SAVE! IT IS A FALSE RELIGION which DENIES that jesus is the son of god and that he died on the cross for our sins ....  ['ishmael god understands your affliction']

[emphasis added, navali -- obtained this pamphlet from him may 18, 2002]

rest assured, this is one of the most incredible STATEMENTS  i have seen thus far -- that is, 'IT IS A FALSE RELIGION which DENIES that jesus is the son of god and that he died on the cross for our sins.'  

wonder if this man had ever read and reviewed hebrews 5:5-8 & 13:10-12 and/or even compared the same with psalms 20:6;  28:8; 105:15, etc. see details below.

in any case, more often than not, such PERSONAL opinions, intolerance and religious bigotry, half backed truths and/or misconstrued interpretations have superceded the bible and its teachings.

moreover, Friends of Israel's vehement dislike of and prejudice against  islam and its followers is no secret. it is well  documented in its bi-monthly magazine namely, 'israel my glory.'  

 

in addition to what we have seen thus far, i will try to show at the same time that the holy qur'an was absolutely right about the christ jesus, son of mary [pbuth] and his so-called cruci_fiction <prospegnumi> and slaying <anaireo> [acts 2:23; hq: 4:157-158]

 

UNWILLING SACRIFICE

John 12:27 (KJV) Now is my soul troubled; and what shall I say? 

    Mark 14:34 And he [jesus] says to them, 
My soul is full of grief 
even unto _d_e_a_t_h_ ; 
abide here and watch.    

    Matthew 26:41 Watch and pray, 
that ye enter not into temptation: 
the spirit indeed is willing, 
but the flesh is weak.   

    Luke 22:42 (KJV) Saying, Father, if thou be willing, remove this cup from me: nevertheless not my will, but thine, be done. Luke 22:43 (KJV) And there appeared an angel unto him from heaven, strengthening him. Luke 22:44 (KJV) And being in an agony he prayed more earnestly: and his sweat was as it were great drops of blood falling down to the ground.

what is the very basic meaning and interpretation of the scriptures that come to mind right away? how could any faithful christian claim that jesus christ died willing for the sins and salvation of mankind? 

Joh 12:27
Verse 27. Now is my soul troubled. The mention of his death brought before him its approaching horrors, its pains, its darkness, its unparalleled woes. Jesus was full of acute sensibility, and his human nature shrunk from the scenes through which he was to pass. 

 

CRITICAL EVIDENCE 
the new testament authenticates 
the gospel of barnabas 
& the holy qur'an 4:157,158

 

THE DIVINE OPERATION - 'RESCUE 5:7-9' 

PRAYER  ANSWERED

HE WAS SAVED

'DIVINE   MISSION ACCOMPLISHED'

Psalms 20:6 (DBY) Now know I that Jehovah saveth his anointed --christ -- messiah ; he answereth him from the heavens of his holiness, with the saving strength of his right hand.

Psalms 28:8 (KJV) The LORD [is] their strength, and he [is] the saving strength of his anointed--christ-messiah. {their: or, his}  {saving...: Heb. strength of salvations}

Psalms 105:15 (KJV) Saying, 
Touch not mine anointed, 
and do my prophets no harm. 

4899. mashiyach
Search for H4899 in KJVSL
xyvm mashiyach maw-shee'-akh
from 4886; anointed; usually a consecrated person (as a king, priest, or saint); specifically, the Messiah:--anointed, Messiah.
See Hebrew 4886 

its fulfillment in the new testament

    Hebrews 5:7 (KJ2000) WHO IN THE DAYS OF HIS FLESH, when he had offered up prayers and supplications with strong crying and tears 

UNTO HIM THAT WAS ABLE TO SAVE HIM FROM DEATH,  AND WAS HEARD IN THAT HE FEARED;

Hebrews 5:8 (KJ2000) Though he were a Son, YET __L__E__A__R__N__E__D__ HE OBEDIENCE by the things which he __s__u__f__f__e__r__e__d;__

ABBOT: Heb 5:7
      Heb 5:7. Who; that is, Christ.--In the days of his flesh; of his life upon the earth.--Heard, in that he feared; in respect to that which he feared. (Lu 22:41-44.)

burkitt: Heb 5:7
Observe here, 1. A special act of Christ's priesthood or priestly office. He offered up.
2. The subject-matter of his offering, supplications and prayers.

3. The intense manner of his offering, with strong cries and tears.

4. The person to whom he offered unto god, who was able to save him from death.

5. The time of his offering in the days of his flesh; that is, in the time of this mortal life, when clothed with our frail nature.

6. The issue and success of all this, he was heard in that he feared.

'And being made perfect'

Hebrews 5:9 (KJV) And being made perfect, he became the author of eternal salvation unto all them that obey him;

compare

And he was heard

The Bible Gateway

    Hebrews 5 

Hebrews 5 ⁵   So Christ also did not take upon himself the glory of becoming a high priest. But God said to him, "You are my _S_o_n_; _t_o_d_a_y_ 'I have become' your Father. ^[1] " ^[2]

⁶   And he says in another place, "You are a priest forever, in the order of Melchizedek." ^[3]

• when did god become jesus' father? 

• was at his conception, baptism?

• or WHEN he WAS RESCUED 'FROM DEATH'?

• OR, when he was appointed a priest forever ;

• SOME 110 YEARS AFTER his worldly mission had ended?

'he offered up prayers and petitions.... to the one who could save him 'from death', and he was heard'

Hebrews 5 ⁷   During the days of Jesus' life on earth, he offered up prayers and petitions with loud cries and tears to the one who could save him 'from death', and he was heard because of his reverent submission.
⁸   Although he was a son, he learned obedience from what he suffered

on the other hand, WHY did jesus disobey god, the father? is that the reason why he was forsaken by god in the end, i.e., when he needed him most?

 AUTHOR AND DATE OF WRITING

the author of this letter [hebrews], does not identify himself, but he was obviously well known to the original recipients. form many years  paul was considered to be the author, but since the reformation it has been widely recognized that paul COULD NOT have been the author. apollos and BARNABAS are those most suggested. the book was written prior to the fall of jerusalem in a.d. 70 -- [the holy bible, new international version, lccc# 73-174297,  'hebrews pp. 1653].

unravelling the crucial evidence

the bible's most overlooked evidence & the interpretation thereof: 

'cruci_FICTion ALONE' did not kill jesus

proof

1.     to fasten
2. 

1. to take up, to lift up (from the ground)

   1. to take up for myself as mine

   2. to own (an exposed infant)

2. to take away, abolish

   1. to do away with or abrogate customs or ordinances

   2. to put out of the way, kill slay a man

from the above text, it would appear as though, cruci_FICTion ALONE did not kill jesus. rather, he was crucified <prospegnumi> -- lifted up from the ground/ hanged __A_N_D__ slain <anaireo>, which directly contradicts deuteronomy 21:22,23.

• on the other hand, most christians have believed for millenniums that jesus died of cruci_FICTion only. 

• whereas, a proper examination of the new testament reveals a different story altogether . 

• as a matter of fact, the oft-quoted Deuteronomy prophecy was not fulfilled in him at all. 

BECAUSE, the condition of the prophecy requires that a man be put to 'death _A_N_D_ hanged.'

Hanging
(as a punishment), a mark of infamy inflicted on the dead bodies of criminals (Deuteronomy 21:23) rather than our modern mode of punishment. Criminals were first strangled and then hanged (Numbers 25:4; Deuteronomy 21:22). (See 2 Samuel 21:6 for the practice of the Gibeonites.)

mode 2
'crucified <4717>  _A_N_D_  HANGED' <2910>

kremavnnumi Kremannumi (krem-an'-noo-mee);  Verb, Strong #: 2910

1. to hang up, suspend
2. to be suspended, to hang
   • used of one hanging on a cross
   • used of the Law and the Prophets, they is summed up or hanging on two precepts
   •  

   • twm Muwth (mooth);  Verb, Strong #: 4191 to die, kill, have one executed (Qal) to die to die (as penalty), be put to death to die, perish (of a nation) to die prematurely (by neglect of wise moral conduct) (Polel) to kill, put to death, dispatch (Hiphil) to kill, put to death (Hophal) to be killed, be put to death 1d to die prematurely

hlt Talah (taw-law');  Verb, Strong #: 8518 to hang (Qal) to hang 1a to hang up (any object) 1a to put to death by hanging (Niphal) to be hanged (Piel) to hang, hang up (for display)

DE 21:23

he that is hanged is accursed of God Hebrew the curse of God. That is, it is the highest degree of reproach that can attach to a man, and proclaims him under the curse of God as much as any external punishment can. They that see him thus hanging between heaven and earth, will conclude him abandoned of both, and unworthy of either ... Bp. Patrick observes, that this passage is applied to the death of Christ;

if the above version of the gruesome event is correct, then it plainly contradicts the 4 gospels, because, according to the gospel-account, jesus died within hours AFTER HE WAS CRUCIFIED. 

violation of the divine law

although, several reasons and/or conjectures have been offered for his quick demise:- 

• not a single account in the new testament:

• shows that jesus had died;

• before his so-called cruci_FICTion;

• an absolute condition required by the divine law just cited.  

       003.095 Say: Allah speaketh truth. 
So follow the religion of Abraham [imam],

Lakum Diinukum--Unto you your Religion 
WA LIYA DIIN--AND UNTO ME MY RELIGION 
Kaafiruun--Disbelievers - Surah 109:6

 salaam : peace

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