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BISMILLAAHIR RAHMAANIR RAHIIM  --- IN THE NAME OF ALLAH, RAHMAN, RAHIM

 

YA ALI MADAD


 Monday, 22 October 2001

       The Aga Khan: "I am amazed by the ignorance of Islam".

   
Text Box:  His Highness, the Aga Khan, is the 49th direct descendant of Mohammad, through Ali, his cousin who married Fatima, the Prophet's daughter.  

 The leader is the 49th descendant of Mohammad, one of the principal spiritual leaders of Muslim Shi'ites: 

NEWSDESK

19 Apr 2003 17:55:41 GMT

Aga Khan urges tolerance in the world

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By Penny MacRae

NEW DELHI, April 19 (Reuters) - The Aga Khan, spiritual head of the world's 15 million Shia Ismaili Muslims, said on Saturday survival of an interdependent globe hinged on people showing tolerance of the cultures, values and faiths of others.

Prince Karim Aga Khan, speaking to Reuters in an interview in the aftermath of the Iraq war, .....

"Pluralism is no longer simply an asset or a prerequisite for progress and development -- it is vital to our existence," he said.

 

Islam is for muslims *al--Haqq — the Truth* 


 

Wa Makarū Wa Makara Allāhu Wa Allāhu Khayru Al-Mākirīna (3:54).

zohurul hoque 3:53. And they contrived plots, and Allah planned, and Allah is the most excellent of the planners [pp. 96]

 [translation and commentary on the holy quran - Dr. Zohurul Hoque ISBN 0-9678304-0-0  Holy Quran Publishing Project 

 

salaamun alaykum and ya ali madad 

in addition to what we have seen so far from the above author, please allow me to present the following piece of evidence which pertains to his multifarious claim. read the same with extra caution and intelligence, if you will.

PERSONAL   ISLAM 

Al-Yawma 'Akmaltu Lakum Dīnakum Wa 'Atmamtu `Alaykum Ni`matī Wa Rađītu Lakum Al-'Islāma Dīnāan 

[emphasis added, navali]

please review the above solemnly and ask yourself, did allah leave out anything at all from the 'religion of islam' before the holy prophet's [sas] 23-year old mission culminated and also came to a close with the above proclamation?

zohurul hoque: note#5:3 and have accepted for you ISLAM .. [] .. as the religion [so no new creed will be revealed hence forth, and no new nabi is needed after muhammad, who is thus the last nabi, 33:40]. therefore [as the qur'an contains guidance on all matters of human requirements, both spiritual and physical, ...] [pp. 175]

zohurul hoque: note#2:253 ['yet muhammad OCCUPIES the highest position in the cadre of rasuls as he is given the complete and perfect religion, 5:3'] - [pp. 72]. see full text below.

let him alone, no human being on the face of this earth would ever use this kind of  favorable language if islam was still wanting somehow.

despite the above unequivocal assertion and conviction, WHY did it still become necessary for this faithful muslim to take upon himself the task of CORRUPTING the holy qur'an from the inside out?

the qadiani claim

The Simile Of "The New Moon" Used For The Holy Prophet(SAW) And That Of "The Full Moon" Used For Mirza

The superiority of the Qadiani incarnation has been expressed in yet another style: viz. During the Mekkan age the holy Prophet(SAW), Islam was like the crescent in which there is no light, but in his so-called Qadiani reincarnation, Islam became lighted and illuminated like the full moon. Mirza said: "And Islam started like the crescent which was destined ultimately to become in the later ages the full moon by the command of God. Thus Allah's wisdom willed that Islam should assume the form of the full moon in that century which should resemble the full moon by way of counting". (Khutbah-e-Ilhamiah, P. 181; Roohani Khazain, Vol. 16, P. 275)

"To declare those who denied the holy Prophet in his first birth as unbelievers and outside the fold of Islam, but to regard the deniers of his second birth as Muslim is an insult to the Prophet and a joke against the signs of Allah, although the promised Masih has in Khutbah-e-Ilhamiah, compared the mutual relation between the first and the second births of the holy Prophet to the relationship between the crescent and the full moon". (Akhbar Al-Fazl, Qadian, Vol. 3, No. 10, dated 15th July 1915 as cited in Qadiani Mazhab, P. 262)

Qadianis Debase the Islamic Kalimah
... According to the Qadiani belief, the "Qadiani based" birth of ... declared that I am the holy Prophet's (SAW) incarnation. ...
of all his Lights, I am the last Light. ... www.irshad.org/idara/qadiani/tahaffuz/qakalima.htm - 26k - Cached - Similar pages

Reply to Qadiani article
... Then the Qadiani response gives quotations from Maulana Muhammad ... However,
such a prophet as obtains light from ... lamp of the prophethood of Muhammad, and does ...
   www.muslim.org/qadis/reply.htm - 26k -

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In short, Mirza Qadiani spent much of his adult life fabricating falsehood against Allah(SWT) and His Messenger(SAW), insulting the Prophets of Allah, declaring false prophecies, committing acts of treason against Muslims, lying, cheating, deceiving simple minded Muslims, and serving the British by discouraging and eliminating the concept of Jihad from Islam. The height of his shameless attempt at deception is best stated in his own message to Governor of Punjab, in 1898, reminding him that he is the "self implanted and self cultivated seedling of British Raj," who has been a loyal servant to the British rule.

Mirza uttered such non-sense Kufr in his books as “I am God, in my vision, I am a woman, Allah showed his manly power with me and metaphorically I became pregnant”! Contrary to his own "Prophecies" and "revelations", Mirza died on May 26, 1908, in his own hated disease of cholera. Obviously, he was not Mehdi, Messiah, or a Prophet. He was rather an opportunist guided by his hunger for wealth and power.  His claim to be the promised Messiah is not much different from the present day claims of David Koresh, Jim Jones, and Charles Manson.  The followers of these cults are now well known in the West;  by God's leave, we shall reveal the truth about the Qadiani leadership to the world.

Mirza Ghulam Ahmed  "I saw myself in a dream as God's eye and I believed that I was actually Allah, and in this state I said: 'I wish a new order a new heaven and a new earth.'

Anti Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam
Anti Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam 27th January 1999 Chapter 6. AFTER THE WAR. ... The American Consul, the French agent, Castagne and the British Col.

compare

advancing his own insidious claim in islam - BASED totally on the  'pauline/qadiani' foundation

Zohurul Hoque: ''so at the right time the prophets and luminaries _d_o_ _a_p_p_e_a_r_'

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proof in black and white

[COMMENTARY] -- Zohurul Hoque note#24:55 [pp. 606/7]

allah has promised [three things] to those among you who believe and do good [2:25] that [i] he will certainly make them SUCCESSORS [OF PROPHET MUHAMMAD]  in the earth [by keeping the religion alive and by cleaning the dross they may collect] as he made successors those [israelites nabis in the dispensation of the lawgiver, musa.] before them [to keep the LIGHT BURNING];  and that  [every generation needing regeneration]  [ii] he will establish for them their religion [of islam in its full glory], which he has approved for them [5:3 SUPERSEDING other outdated religions where corruptions have crept in, 9:33]; and that [iii] he will surely grant them security after changing their fear [of annihilation by their opponents, 33:9-20] ......     

[COMMENTARY] -- Zohurul Hoque note#22:78 [pp. 577]

that the rasul [muhammad]  may be a   witness [i.e., a model or a leader] over you and  that you may be witnesses over mankind [, that is to say, _y_o_u_ may propagate the message to mankind _a_s_ the _r_a_s_u_l_ has done it for you, 2:143]

please read between the lines!

note: the 2-two crucial and enigmatic statements made by Zohurul Hoque in the following quotation.  

a.   the cleaver of the daybreak - [with the sunrise of ISLAM, thereby dispelling the darkness of ignorance prevailing in the world].'

b.    night for rest ['and when the world is covered by darkness, THERE IS THE NEED FOR NEW LIGHT 97:3].'

MEANING: with or without the 'sunrise of islam' -- the world is STILL covered by darkness. and hence, 'THERE IS THE NEED FOR NEW LIGHT 97:3.' if so, who or what is this new light? 

he/it is none other than the REFORMER- [MUJADDID].

'the sun -representing  _A_  NABI'

'borrowed from  _t_h_e_  NABI'

[COMMENTARY] -- Zohurul Hoque note#6:97  [and when the world is covered by darkness, there is the need of NEW LIGHT, 97:3] and the sun [representing _A_ NABI  giving a code of life 33:46] and the moon [representing a sahabas, ulama and REFORMER- [MUJADDID,  navali]; EMITTING LIGHT borrowed from the NABI] for reckoning [of time, so at the RIGHT TIME THE PROPHETS AND LUMINARIES DO APPEAR  pp. 228] 

[emphasis added, navali]

what is he really saying/proclaiming? 

advancing the 'qadiani-ahmadiyya' philosophy and his personal claim

    a.    who was meant by '_A_ NABI'?

 answer:    [ A_ NABI  giving a code of life 33:46]

    b.    who was meant by '_t_h_e_ NABI'?

answer:    the moon [representing a sahabas, ulama and REFORMER - [MUJADDID,  navali]; EMITTING LIGHT borrowed from the NABI] for reckoning [of time, so at the RIGHT TIME THE PROPHETS AND LUMINARIES DO APPEAR

    c.    if the answer is still the same(?) viz., 33:46, then who WERE/are the other prophetS and luminarIES that have had APPEARED in islam after the advent of the holy prophet muhammad [sas]?

the Ahmadi Muslims

According to the Ahmadi Muslims, the expression 'Seal of the Prophets' does not mean that the Holy Prophet is chronologically the last Prophet. A seal is a mark of distinction and, in this case, implies great perfection of prophethood. Ahmadis believe that the door to prophethood is always open. However, a new prophet after the Prophet Muhammad must be a follower of his and must be from within the fold of Islam. Ahmadi Muslims do believe that the Prophet Muhammad was the last law giving Prophet and that no new law giving prophet can come after him.

in view of his above assertion as well, what real solutions and future prospects is he offering to the 'forsaken' and/or the 'darkened' muslim world, as he envisions it today?

note again

'representing A sahabas, ulama and _R_E_F_O_R_M_E_R'_ - [MUJADDID - all in singular, navali] 

EMITTING LIGHT _b_o_r_r_o_w_e_d_ from the NABI

compare - in plural

the sahabas and REFORMERS --[mujaddids, navali], the ulama and scholars will be illuminating the world from darkness of ignorance TO the Light of Islam 24:55] [pp. 730; 1065; 1088]

'so at the right time the prophets and luminaries _d_o_ _a_p_p_e_a_r_'[in plural, navali]

now consider his interpretation ONLY in the light of the 2 qur'anic references given by him. what is the connection of the above commentary [zohurul hoque note#6:97] with the following qur'anic texts?

1.    97: 3. The Night of Power is better than a thousand months. 

2.    33:46. And as one who invites to Allah's (grace) by His leave, and as a lamp spreading light.
Yusuf Ali's Quran Translation

'When the sun appears, all the lesser lights pale before its light'

33. 46:
C3735. See last note. The two other capacities in which the Prophet was sent are here specified. (4) He comes as one who has a right to invite all men to repentance and the forgiveness of sins: but he does this, not of his own authority, but by the permission and authority given to him by Allah. This is said lest people may deify the Prophet as they did with other Prophets before him. The personal responsibility of each individual remains, but the Prophet can lead him on the Right and help him. 

frankly, not only don't i see any particular relevance between the two, as claimed by zohurul hoque but also his commentary under discussion contradicts the late a. yusuf ali's note.

the true and correct  interpretation

1.    97: 3. The Night of Power is better than a thousand months. 

2.    33:46. And as one who invites to Allah's (grace) by His leave, and as a lamp spreading light.
Yusuf Ali's Quran Translation

the qadiani sources

THE HOLY PROPHET MUHAMMAD'S AHL-AL-BAIT (SAS)
& the Ahmadiyyat Movement

The Renaissance of Islam

On one occasion, in a state of complete wakefulness, I beheld the Holy Prophet, peace and blessings of Allah be upon him, who was accompanied by his two grandsons, his daughter Fatima and his cousin and son-in-law Ali, may Allah be pleased with all of them. This was not any kind of dream but
was a species of complete wakefulness."

Kitabul Bariyyah, pp.. 164-7

The Holy Prophet, peace be on him, is reported to have expressed himself in this manner on an occasion when he was about to depart on an expedition and appointed Hazrat Ali, his cousin, to be in charge at Medina during his absence therefrom. Hazrat Ali was distressed that he would thus be deprived of the opportunity of serving at the front under the command of the Holy Prophet. To reassure him the Holy Prophet said to him: 'You are to me in the position in which Aaron was to Moses, except that there is no Prophet
after me.'

Hazrat Mirza Ghulam Ahmad Qadiani
The Promised Messiah and Imam Mahdi
The Founder of the Ahmadiyya Movement in Islam.

 

INTRODUCTION TO THE STUDY OF THE HOLY QURAN

ALI AND THE FALL OF KHAIBAR

Khaibar was only a little distance from Medina and from here the Jews found
it very easy to carry on their intrigues. With this intent, the Prophet
(some time in August 628 A.D.) marched to
Khaibar. He had one thousand six
hundred men with him.
Khaibar, as we have said, was a well-fortified town.
It was surrounded on all sides by rocks on which were perched little
fortresses. To conquer such a place with so small a force was no easy task.
The small posts lying on the outskirts of
Khaibar fell after a little
fighting. But when the Jews collected themselves into the central fort of
the town, all attacks on it and all
forms of strategy employed against it seemed to fail.

One day the Prophet had a revelation that Khaybar* would fall at the hands of Ali. The following morning the Prophet announced this to his followers and said, "Today, I will  hand over the black flag of Islam to him who is dear to God, His Prophet and all the Muslims. God has ordained that our victory at Khaibar Should take
place at his hands."

The following day he sent for Ali and handed to him the
flag. Ali did not wait. He took his men and attacked the central fort. In
spite of the fact that the Jews had collected in force inside this fort, Ali
and his division were able to conquer it before dark. A peace was signed.

Khaybar* -- zohurul hoque: note#48:18, near victory [of khaibar]; note#49:6, pp. 896; 901; 969; 1183.

[Pooya/Ali Commentary 27:20]

2.    the holy prophet said: "IT WAS ALI."

it is stated in minhaj al sadiqin and umdat al bayan -- [SUNNI HADITH]-- that then the holy prophet said to ALI:

"O ALI, YOU HELPED ALL THE PROPHETS of allah incognito -- [BATIN, navali] -- (concealed from view), and YOU HELP ME in propria persona - [ZAHIR, navali] - (in person) MANIFESTLY."

the Famous Dua, Known as Nadi Ali, Which The Holy Prophet Recited, As Commanded By Allah, At Khaybar* Refers To Ali As Mazhar Al Aja-Ib. Ali Ibn Abi Talib Is Also Known As Mushkil Kusha, The Remover Of Hardships. 

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Khaybar* -- zohurul hoque: note#48:18, near victory [of khaibar]; note#49:6, pp. 896; 901; 969; 1183.

rest assured, allah will manifest HIS TRUTH in spite of the disbelievers and the enemies of ISLAM and the foreign agents, like the said qadiani mujaddid and zohurul hoque, who are parading around in the muslim world 'showing an angel's face with a devil's purpose,' as zohurul hoque would put it. 

the qur'anic interpretation

2) Sūrat Al-Baqarah

Bismi Allāhi Ar-Raĥmāni Ar-Raĥīmi
in the name of allah, rahman, rahim

Shahru Ramađāna Al-Ladhī 'Unzila Fīhi  - The month of  Ramadan in which was revealed 

i.    Al-Qur'ānu Hudan Lilnnāsi  - the Qur'an, a guidance for mankind, (2:185)

ii.    Wa Bayyinātin Mina Al-Hudaá - and MANIFEST PROOFS  of the guidance,  (2:185)

iii.   Wa Al-Furqāni  -- and the Furqān [(2:185)]

laylatil qadr

THE MANIFEST PROOF 

al-furqan

Bismi Allāhi Ar- Raĥmāni Ar-Raĥīmi -- in the name of allah, rahman, rahim

97:1- 3   Lo! We revealed it on the Night of Power.  Ah, what will convey unto thee what the Night of Power is! The Night of Power is better than a thousand months. 

[Pooya/Ali Commentary 97:1] 

Jalal al Din al Suyuti, in Durr al Manthur, says that laylatil qadr stands for the Holy Prophet and his Ahl ul Bayt

Sūra XCVIII   (البينة)

THE MANIFEST PROOF  [Al-Baiyyinah

zohurul hoque: 98:1 Those who reject Faith, among the People of the Book and the Polytheists, could not be free until the MANIFEST PROOF-- albayyinatu -- came to them. 

zohurul hoque: 98:2  A RASUL FROM ALLAH, who recites purified pages  -- rasūlun mina allāhi yatlū şuĥufan muţahharatan

25) Sūrat Al-Furqān

Bismi Allāhi Ar- Raĥmāni Ar-Raĥīmi -- in the name of allah, rahman, rahim

Tabāraka Al-Ladhī Nazzala Al-Furqāna `Alaá `Abdihi Liyakūna Lil`ālamīna Nadhīrāan (1).  

Blessed is He Who hath revealed unto His slave the AL-FURQAN that he may be a warner to the peoples.

al-furqan

al-furqan

al-furqan

25) Sūrat Al-Furqān

Wa Huwa Al-Ladhī Khalaqa Mina Al-Mā'i Basharāan Faja`alahu Nasabāan Wa Şihrāan Wa Kāna Rabbuka Qadīrāan (25:54).  -  

And He it is Who hath created man from water, and hath appointed for him kindred by blood and kindred by marriage; for thy Lord is ever Powerful.

033.006 THE PROPHET IS CLOSER TO THE BELIEVERS than their SOULS ... 

Wa 'Ūlū Al-'Arĥāmi Ba`đuhum 'Awlaá Biba`đin Fī Kitābi Allāhi Mina ... Kāna Dhālika Fī Al-Kitābi Masţūrāan (6). -- Blood-relations are closer one to another THAN... in the ordinance of Allah ... This is written in the Book (of nature). 

al-furqan is the holy IMAM [sa] of the age and time

008.041  A FIFTH THEREOF IS FOR ALLAH, AND FOR THE MESSENGER AND FOR THE KINSMAN .., if ye believe IN ALLAH AND THAT which We revealed unto Our slave on the Day of FURQAN, the day when the two armies met. And Allah is Able to do all things.

008.075 ... AND THOSE WHO ARE AKIN ARE NEARER ONE TO ANOTHER IN THE BOOK OF ALLAH. 

25) Sūrat Al-Furqān

Wa Al-Ladhīna Yaqūlūna Rabbanā Hab Lanā Min 'Azwājinā Wa Dhurrīyātinā

  Qurrata 'A`yunin 

Wa Āj`alnā Lilmuttaqīna 'Imāmāan (25:74)

And who say: Our Lord! Vouchsafe us of our wives and of our offspring,

  COOLNESS OF THE EYE, 

and make us  for the reverant IMAMS.

25) Sūrat Al-Furqān

 al-furqan

al-furqan

al-furqan

Yā 'Ayyuhā An-Nāsu Qad Jā'akum Burhānun Min Rabbikum Wa 'Anzalnā 'Ilaykum Nūrāan Mubīnāan (4:174).

4:174. O people! surely there has come to you manifest proof from your Lord and We have sent to you LIGHT MANIFEST

  33:46.  Wa Dā`īāan 'Ilaá Allāhi Bi'idhnihi Wa Sirājāan Munīrāan  -- And a summoner unto Allah by His permission, and a lamp that giveth light.

 

Fa'ammā Al-Ladhīna 'Āmanū Billāhi Wa Ā`taşamū Bihi Fasayudkhiluhum Fī Raĥmatin Minhu Wa Fađlin Wa Yahdīhim 'Ilayhi Şirāţāan Mustaqīmāan (4: 175). As for those who believe in Allah, and hold fast unto Him, them He will cause to enter into His mercy and grace, and will guide them unto Him by a straight road. 

Nūrāan Mubīnāan Sirājāa Munīrāa Şirāţāan Mustaqīmāan

[Pooya/Ali Commentary 2:33]

In Durr Manthur, Jalaluddin Sayuti says that the Holy Prophet had said: "The objects shown to the angels were five lights. Allah informed the angels pointing to each of the lights respectively: 

    (i)     This is Muhammad, the most praised, derived from My name, the praised one. 
    (ii)    This is Ali, the high, derived from My name, the highest. 
    (iii)    This is Fatimah, the original, derived from my name, the originator of the heavens and the earth. 
    (iv)    This is Hasan, the bountiful, derived from My name, the benefactor. 
    (v)     This is Husayn, the good, derived from My name, the good in origin.

O  angels! It is in love of these five that I have created the universe." 

 

the qur'anic fulfillment in ISLAM 

'Rabbuka Qadīrāan'
'laylatil qadr'
'the Holy Prophet and his Ahl ul Bayt'

 

And He it is Who hath created MAN--Basharāan -- from water, and hath appointed for him kindred by blood and kindred by marriage; for thy Lord is ever Powerful -- Wa Kāna Rabbuka Qadīrāan. (25:54)

 

[Pooya/Ali Commentary 97:1] 

Jalal al Din al Suyuti, in Durr al Manthur, says that laylatil qadr stands for the Holy Prophet and his Ahl ul Bayt

 

   
Text Box:  His Highness, the Aga Khan, is the 49th direct descendant of Mohammad, through Ali, his cousin who married Fatima, the Prophet's daughter.  

 The leader is the 49th descendant of Mohammad, one of the principal spiritual leaders of Muslim Shi'ites: 

that said, allow me to return to the main issue at hand.

additional proof

his subtle & 'undeclared' claim to the prophethood or a typo?

'signifying all WE NABIS'  

zohurul hoque: note #71:16 'and he has set in them the moon as a light [which she borrows from the sun 91:1-2], and has made the sun as a [light-giving] lamp [with which muhammad has been likened, 33:46; and when[???, navali] THAT LAMP WILL GLOW, all the lesser lights of the stars, signifying all WE NABIS, lose brilliance] [pp. 1022]

navali: whose words are the following - noah's or zohurul hoque's? and also what did he mean by:

question

that said, how do we explain these contradictions?

1.    zohurul hoque: note #93:1 consider the forenoon brightness [on the advent of muhammad WHOSE BRILLIANCE will increase as the day advances] [pp. 1092].

2.    zohurul hoque: note #86:1, 3 and the night-visitor [muhammad, who appeared when total darkness prevailed in the earth, 30:41, .....].  [he is] the star of piercing radiance [at whose advent the LIGHT of his faith is piercing into the darkness of ignorance, 33:49] [pp. 1077]??

3.    zohurul hoque: note #24:35  [that is why] there is light upon light [to give extraordinary brilliance; as because light had already emanated from muhammad in his young age; and he earned the title al-amin, who at MATURE AGE RECEIVED the divine light and prophethood]  [pp. 602] [own addition/distortion]??

4.    zohurul hoque: note #33:46 and (v) as a bright lamp [or the sun, 71:16; matt 25:1-13; and by getting light from this bright lamp, the sahabas and REFORMERS --[mujaddids, navali], the ulama and scholars will be illuminating the world from darkness of ignorance TO the Light of Islam 24:55] [pp. 730; 1065; 1088]??

it seems he has absolutely no knowledge or personal experience of this aspect of islam at all. these contradictions speak for themselves.

advances his own personal claim

proof

from zero to hero

Zohurul Hoque note#3:109 YOU [muslims who were among the lowest class of people before your conversion to islam and who are _N_O_W_ REFORMED AND TRANSFORMED by your great teacher muhammad] ARE THE BEST COMMUNITY [out of all nations that have ever been raised by allah and] RAISED for [GUIDING] MANKIND, YOU [being the TORCHBEARERS  of truth  in the world] bid [them] doing good and forbid from doing wrong [3:103] [pp. 108].

contradiction

from hero to zero

'REFORMERS [MUJADDIDS]'

- in the later days -  

[i].     'of  SLUGGISHNESS OF MUSLIMS of later days'
[ii]     'as in the later days due to LETHARGY OF THE 
MUSLIMS in general'

zohurul hoque note#91:1-4 consider the sun [which represents muhammad 33:46, who APPEARED just after isa, the morning star, rev. 2:28] .... and the moon [representing the shahbas, REFORMERS [MUJADDIDS, navali], ulama and scholars, 33:46; 71:16; acts 3:19-24] as she follows it [borrowing the light of the sun]' and the night  [of sluggishness of muslims OF LATER DAYS] when it draws a covering over [the splendor of] it [pp. 1088]

'isa, the morning star, rev. 2:28'

lucifer, the satan - was the morning star 
the biblical jesus wass also the morning star 
could he, the biblical jesus be the satan as well?

says what the bible in this regard? well, you be the judge.

The Fall of Lucifer
12 "How you are fallen from heaven,
        O Lucifer,[2] son of the morning!
        How you are cut down to the ground,
        You who weakened the nations!

Isaiah 14:12 New International Version (NIV)
 12 How you have fallen from heaven,
O morning star, son of the dawn!
You have been cast down to the earth,
you who once laid low the nations!
13 You said in your heart,
"I will ascend to heaven;
I will raise my throne
above the stars of God;

I will sit enthroned on the mount of assembly,
on the utmost heights of the sacred mountain. [3]
14 I will ascend above the tops of the clouds;
I will make myself like the Most High."
15 But you are brought down to the grave,
to the depths of the pit.

Isa 14:12
1 son of the morning
Verses 12-14 evidently refer to
Satan, who, as prince of this world-system  (see "World," John 7:7 Cmt. on Re 13:8 is the real unseen ruler of the successive world-powers.

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Isaiah 14:12 (WEB) How you have fallen from Heaven, morning star, son of the dawn! How you are cut down to the ground, who laid the nations low!

Job 38:7 (WEB) When the morning stars sang together, And all the sons of God shouted for joy? Job 1:6 (KJV) Now there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them. Job 2:1 (KJV) Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also among them to present himself before the LORD.

Isa 14:12
Isa 14:12-15. THE JEWS ADDRESS HIM AGAIN AS A FALLEN ONCE-BRIGHT  STAR.

12. Lucifer--"day star." A title truly belonging to Christ (Re 22:16), "the bright and morning star," and therefore hereafter to be assumed by 
Antichrist. 

Isa 14:12
How art thou fallen. Isa 13:10; 34:4; Eze 28:13-17; Lu 10:18; 2Pe 2:4; 
Re 12:7-10 
Lucifer. or, day-star. 2Pe 1:19; Re 2:28; 22:16
weaken. Isa 4:1-6; Jer 50:23; 51:20-24

compare

satan

'and Satan came also 'among' them'

1.    Job 2:1 (KJV) Again there was a day when the sons of God came to present themselves before the LORD, and Satan came also ' among' them to present himself before the LORD.

2.    The Fall of Lucifer
42:12 "How you are fallen from heaven,
        O Lucifer,[2] son of the morning [STAR]!

jesus, the morning STAR

3.    Mark 1:1 The beginning of the gospel of Jesus Christ, the Son of God;

4.    Revelation 2:28 (DBY) and I [jesus] will give to him the morning star.  Revelation 22:16 (KJV) I Jesus have sent mine angel to testify unto you these things in the churches. I am the root and the offspring of David,  and the bright <lampros> and <kai> morning <orthrinos> star <aster>.

compare

Revelation 2:28 And <kai> I will give <didomi> him <autos> the morning <proinos> star <aster>.

so did the holy prophet really appear after the said 'morning star,' as claimed?? if so, which one was he? 

says what the holy qur'an?

'the NABIS - prophets 
'AFTER' jesus'

4:164. And messengers We have mentioned unto thee before and messengers We have not mentioned unto thee; and Allah spake directly unto Moses;
Pickthal's Quran Translation

Verse 2:136

Zohurul Hoque:

i. Wa Al-'Asbāţi 
ii. Wa Mā 'Ūtiya Mūsaá 
iii. Wa `Īsaá 
iv.
Wa Mā 'Ūtiya An-Nabīyūna
Min Rabbihim

You say: "We believe in Allah, 
1.  and
What has been revealed to us, 
2.   and
What was revealed to Ibrahim 
3.   and Isma'il and Is-haq, and Ya'qub 
4.   and the Tribes, 
5.   and
That was given to Musa 
6.   and 'Isa, 
7.  
and What was given to THE NABIS from their Rabb; 
we make no discrimination among any of them, and to Him do we be Muslims." [
changes] [pp. 36]

Verse 3:83

Zohurul Hoque:

i.   Wa Al-'Asbāţi 
ii.   Wa Mā 'Ūtiya Mūsaá 
iii.   Wa `Īsaá 
iv.   Wa An-Nabīyūna
Min Rabbihim

You say: "We believe in Allah, 
1.  and
That has been revealed to us, 
2.   and
What was revealed to Ibrahim 
3.   and Isma'il and Is-haq, and Ya'qub 
4.   and to the Tribes, 
5.   and
What was given to Musa 
6.   and 'Isa, 
7.  
and TO THE NABIS from their Rabb; 
we make no discrimination among any of them, and to Him do we be Muslims." [
changes &addition] [pp. 103]

not only do these changes and distortions speak for themselves but also according to the qur'anic texts just cited, the prophets were definitely sent on  the divine mission/s 'AFTER' isa--jesus, a fact that may be further confirmed from the christian bible. 

the new testament

'prophets from Jerusalem'

Acts 11:27 Now in these days there came down prophets from Jerusalem unto Antioch.  Acts 11:28 And there stood up one of them named Agabus, and said publicly by the Spirit that there should be great dearth throughout all the world: which came to pass in the days of Claudius Caesar.  Acts 21:10 And as we tarried there many days, there came down from Judaea a certain prophet, named Agabus.

Acts 11:27
Agabus | Antioch

Agabus
a "prophet," probably one of the seventy disciples of Christ.
He prophesied at Antioch of an approaching famine (Acts 11:27,28). Many years afterwards he met Paul at Caesarea, and warned him of the bonds and affliction that awaited him at Jerusalem should he persist in going thither (Acts 21:10-12).

These prophets seem to have been endowed in a remarkable manner with the knowledge of future events; with the power of explaining mysteries; and in some cases with the power of speaking foreign languages. In this case, it seems that one of them at least had the power of foretelling future events.

Ephesians 4:11 And he gave some to be apostles; and some, prophets; and some, evangelists; and some, pastors and teachers;  Titus 1:12 One of themselves, even a prophet of their own, said, The Cretians are alway liars, evil beasts, slow bellies.

let's move on!

zohurul hoque: note #93:1,2 consider the forenoon brightness [on the advent of muhammad WHOSE BRIGHTNESS will increase as the day advances] and the night when it darkens  [as in the later days due to LETHARGY of the MUSLIMS in general 57:16; 91:4] [pp. 1092]

'by raising mujaddids--reformers in every century'

[1]     'not to spare any  RASUL' - [messenger] 
[2]     'cannot tolerate any REFORMER' - [mujaddid]

zohurul hoque note#51:53. have they made a legacy of this [kind of behavior] among themselves [so that they think it their birthright not to spare any RASUL - [messenger, navali]? of course, they are outrageous people [who cannot tolerate any REFORMER - [mujaddid, navali]. [pp. 916]

1.    zohurul hoque  'on that day [of doom, 1:3] we [allah, navali] shall roll up the heavens like the rolling up of the scroll of writings [after it is done with i.e., [pp. 559]

who was the primary revealer and speaker?

'WE' - [allah and/or zohurul hoque??, navali]

Mirza uttered such non-sense Kufr in his books as “I am God, in my vision.''

'a new order'

Mirza Ghulam Ahmed  "I saw myself in a dream as God's eye and I believed that I was actually Allah, and in this state I said: 'I wish a new order a new heaven and a new earth.'

zohurul hoque, his only real successor follows in his footsteps.

proof

the second creation - - zohurul hoque

2.    [WE - [allah and/or zohurul hoque??, navali] shall change the old order of material world yielding to a new spiritual set up through this divine message], _a_s_ we [allah, navali] originated [pp. 559]

the first creation - new - a civilization muhammad

3.    _a_s_ we [allah, navali] originated the first creation [of a new civilization at the appearance of muhammad], [pp. 559][pp. 559]

so we [allah, navali] shall [by raising mujaddids in every century] reproduce it ..... surely we [allah, navali] are going to do it [through the efforts of the missionary community, 3:103] [pp. 559]

note#3:103 there should be among YOU a [missionary] community [to propagate islam]  [pp. 107]

zohurul hoque note#51:3 and the distributors of affair [like the missionaries, 3:103; 9:122, .....] [pp. 911]

advancing his own claim
follow the trend of his thought

3ii. zohurul hoque: note #24:35 [and also, there is the Light of Islam shining upon the LIGHTS OF OTHER LUMINARIES OF THE WORLD] [pp. 602]

3iii. zohurul hoque: note #24:36 [this Light of Islam is seen] in [certain, ???, navali] houses [of true muslims, ??? navali] which allah has permitted to be raised up [in spiritual status; AND MATERIALLY TOO .....] [pp. 602]

3iv.  zohurul hoque: note #57:28  and he will make for you a light in which you will walk [as by sending various REFORMERS -- [mujaddids, navali] in every age  to GUIDE you in the path of muhammad. bu 62:6; ad 36:1 [pp. 961]

confusion or contradiction

3v. zohurul hoque: note #33:46 and (v) as a bright lamp [or the sun, 71:16; matt 25:1-13; and by getting light from this bright lamp, the sahabas and REFORMERS --[mujaddids, navali], the ulama and scholars will be illuminating the world from darkness of ignorance TO the Light of Islam 24:55] [pp. 730; 1065; 1088]

let's see if i have got this right. 

  1. first of, 'the bright lamp' and 'the light of islam' are said to be 2 distinct and separate 'lights of allah.'

  2. second of, 'the light of islam' - is 'shinning on 'the other luminaries' of the world,' as claimed.

  3. yet, all those 'enlightened luminaries' mentioned above;

  4. have to get a new 'light,' so to speak, 'from the bright lamp' [muhammad]'' ;

  5. [and not from the light of islam] ;

  6. in order 'to illuminate the world from darkness to the light of islam.'

question

the following quote contradicts everything this self-proclaimed 'nabi-prophet' and mujaddid--reformer' stands for and teaches with respect to the light, which he also purports to be.

'signifying all WE NABIS

zohurul hoque: note #71:16 'and he has set in them the moon as a light [which she borrows from the sun 91:1-2], and has made the sun as a [light-giving] lamp [with which muhammad has been likened, 33:46; AND WHEN THAT LAMP WILL GLOW, all the lesser lights of the stars, signifying all WE NABIS, lose brilliance] [pp. 1022]
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either islam is still 'in darkness'  as opposed to being in 'LIGHT' -- THE 'LIGHT OF ALLAH' -- or, IS at the mercy of these so-called 'unenlightened' lesser lights. 'AND WHEN THAT LAMP WILL GLOW, all the lesser lights of the stars, signifying all WE NABIS, lose brilliance] [pp. 1022].'

whatever the case maybe, something does not seem or sound right here. his above 'light-related' commentaries, etc., seem to be based on hearsay only. 

despite his academic accomplishments, he does not appear to be a spiritually 'enlightened' 'NABI-PROPHET' and/or a 'MUJADDID-REFORMER' that he claims to be. 

for some odd reason, that spiritual knowledge and depth is ABSENT from his publication. in other words, it has failed to touch me spiritually so far.

his following distortive translation and commentary, respectively speaks volumes in and of itself. like they say, 'the proof of the pudding is in the eating.'

zohurul hoque: [that is why] there is light upon light [pp. 602] [addition/ distortion, navali]

zohurul hoque: note #61:9 but [the more they blow to extinguish the Light, the more it flares up and the clearer it shines, and thus] [pp. 980]

'IN THE NEW WORLD ORDER'

'by raising MUJADDIDS'

3v.  zohurul hoque: note #24:37 [these house are inhabited by] men ---[as they feel the presence of allah in all walks of life] ..... [as their service to god and to men] .... [IN THE NEW LIFE, IN THE NEW WORLD ORDER] [pp. 603; 1054;]

3vi.  zohurul hoque: note #21:104 so we [allah] shall [by raising MUJADDIDS -- [REFORMERS, navali] in every century] [pp. 559, 961; 1088]

[emphasis added, navali]

so, what do all of these unmistakable TELLTALE clues and neon signs mean or imply? 

'made in usa' -- 
a new 'nabi-prophet' 
'manufactured by the west' 
to mislead the muslims

 HQ. 24:35 
    allah is the LIGHT of the heavens and earth 

 light                                            upon                              light

 zohurul hoque commentaries

'Muhammad & prophethood'

'the FINAL Nabi  [33:40]'

[33:46] 'and [v] as a bright LAMP [v] as a bright LAMP [v] as a bright LAMP  [or the sun, 71:16; matt 25:1-13; 'and by getting light from this bright lamp, the sahabas,  REFORMERS - [MUJADDIDS, navali] , the ulama and scholars will be illuminating the world from darkness of ignorance TO THE LIGHT OF ISLAM TO THE LIGHT OF ISLAM TO THE LIGHT OF ISLAM 24:55]'  [pp. 730. see also 82:2, pp. 1065 ]

lamp [with which muhammad has been likened, 33:46; AND WHEN[???, navali] THAT LAMP WILL GLOW[??, navali] [pp. 1022]

 

 zohurul hoque  commentaries

'and also, there is the LIGHT of islam shining upon THE LIGHTS OF OTHER LUMINARIES OF THE WORLD' [pp. 602] 
  
'lesser lights signifying
all WE NABIS' [pp. 1022]

['IN THE NEW WORLD ORDER] [pp. 603 

[1.  zohurul hoque: [to restore law and order in a new world]  [ in a new world]  [ in a new world]  [about the attractions and comforts of the earthly life as to be seen in the WEST'] [pp. 659]   

 zohurul hoque: 'so we [allah] shall [by raising MUJADDIDS [reformers, navali] in every century'] [pp. 559; 961] 

rest assured, zohurul hoque adopted a phoney tactical language to deceive the unsuspecting and misinformed or uninformed muslim masses and others. 

 

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zohurul hoque _ multifaceted claim
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       003.095 Say: Allah speaketh truth. 
So follow the religion of Abraham [imam],

Lakum Diinukum--Unto you your Religion 
WA LIYA DIIN--AND UNTO ME MY RELIGION 
Kaafiruun--Disbelievers - Surah 109:6



 salaam : peace


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