another_911

bismillaahir rahmaanir rahiim -- in the name of allah, rahman, rahim

    Monday, 22 October 2001

The Aga Khan: "I am amazed by the ignorance of Islam"

PARIS - He is one of the spiritual leaders of Islam who best knows the land and the people of Central Asia, the area which holds the world in suspense. He is the Imam, the religious leader and guide of the Ishamilite, whose communities are spread in various countries of Asia and Africa, but also in Europe and in North America. Throughout Iran, Pakistan, Tajikistan, Afghanistan and West China, there are more than five million Ishmaelite. ......

"I think that monotheistic religions, having an analogous belief in an only God, should and must dialogue. The three religions which Abraham inspired have many more common facets than those which divide them. Religion must be a means by which to affirm the ethical significance of existence, irrelevant of one's faith. If we want social development, to meet halfway, to dialogue, peace, we cannot neglect ethics and the impact which education and culture have on social growth.

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    7:172. And (remember) when thy Lord brought forth from the Children of Adam, from their reins, their seed, and made them testify of themselves, (saying): Am I not your Lord? They said: Yea, verily. We testify. (That was) lest ye should say at the Day of Resurrection: Lo! of this we were unaware; 7:173. Or lest ye should say: (It is) only (that) our fathers ascribed partners to Allah of old and we were (their) seed after them. Wilt Thou destroy us on account of that which those who follow falsehood did?

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EXCERPT

"ENHANCING PLURALISM"

I HOPE THAT MY REMARKS MIGHT
RELEASE SOME MORE BUZZING, BECAUSE THE ESSENCE OF WHAT I WILL SAY THIS EVENING REFERS TO "ENHANCING PLURALISM".

Speech by His Highness the Aga Khan

Keynote Speech by His Highness the Aga Khan Concluding the Prince Claus Fund's Conference on Culture and Development, Amsterdam, 7th September 2002
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    PLURALISM

bismillaahir rahmaanir rahiim -- in the name of allah, rahman, rahim

[the above is the QUR'ANIC foundation of ISLAM & PLURALISM]

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    Ba of Bismillah -
The essence of the Quran

how closely was/IS hzt. ali [as] related to a muslim's faith, especially with regards to his daily performance of prayers, irrespective of his belief or disbelief in him as his imam [pbuh] or the first imam--priest of the muslim ummah -- formed by the holy prophet [sas] himself?

       [Pooya/Ali Commentary 1:1]
It is said that al Fatihah is the quintessence of the Quran, and bismillahir rahmanir rahim is the essence of al Fatihah, and the letter ba of bismillah is the embodiment of bismillahir rahmanir rahim, and the dot below the first letter ba of bismillah is the spirit of the first verse.

Ali, son of Abu Talib, the first of the holy Imams, had said:

"I am the dot below the ba of bismillah"

which means that to Ali has been entrusted the whole of the book and its true exposition, .... The statement of Ali is testified by the well-known and universally accepted declaration (hadith) of the Holy Prophet.

[Pooya/Ali Commentary 2:25]

   Aqa Mahdi Puya says:

Ba of Bismillah - The essence of the Quran

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       see also, 'the secret of ana'l-haqq,' pp. 20 [ali--Ba of Bismillah], with notes and introduction by khan sahib khaja khan b.a., -- sh. muhammad ashraf, kashmiri bazar - lahore pakistan.

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additional proof

59:23. HUWALLAA-HULLAZII -- He is Allah, than Whom there is no other Allah, the Sovereign Lord--malikul, the Holy One -- qudduus, Peace--salaamul, the Keeper of Faith--mu'minul, the Guardian, the Majestic, the Compeller, the Superb. SUBHAANALLAAHI -- HOLY IS ALLAH -- Glorified be Allah from all that they ascribe as partner (unto Him).

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17:110. Say: pray unto ALLAH, or pray unto RAHMAN, HE WHO ye pray to, His are the most beautiful NAMES. 110. Quli odAAoo ALLAHA awi odAAoo ALRRAHMANA ayyan MA tadAAoo falahu al-asmao alhusna

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YASIN 36:58. SALAAM -- PEACE FROM THEIR LORD RAHIIM



'THE UNITY OF GOD' & 'RELIGIOUS PLURALISM'

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THE BIBLE AND SALEM

'SALEM - PEACE'

'SHILOH MEANS PEACE'

'ISLAM MEANS PEACE'

Islam is for muslims *al--Haqq — the Truth*

   003.065 O People of the Scripture! Why will ye argue about Abraham, when the Torah and the Gospel were not revealed till after him ? Have ye then no sense ? 003.066 Lo! ye are those who argue about that whereof ye have some knowledge: Why then argue ye concerning that whereof ye have no knowledge ? Allah knoweth. Ye know not.

002.062 Lo! Those who believe and those who are Jews, and Christians, and Sabaeans - whoever believeth in Allah and the Last Day and doeth right - surely their reward is with their Lord, and there shall no fear come upon them neither shall they grieve.
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ISLAM/IC GREETING IN THE BIBLE

JEHOVAH - SHALOM 'THE LORD [IS] PEACE'

Judges 6:23 (DBY) And JEHOVAH said to him, PEACE BE UNTO THEE: 24 And Gideon built there an altar to Jehovah, and called it JEHOVAH - SHALOM [THE LORD [IS] PEACE]. To this day it is yet in Ophrah of the Abi-ezrites.

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salem_2_
another episode of 9/11 -- exactly 1 year later -- september 02

the bible's irrefutable reply to:
friends of israel
and steve van nattan, a self-proclaimed jackass

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ACT 1

says my kid sister,
'CHRISTIANITY AT GROUND - ZERO - [another 9/11] - SEPTEMBER 2002' -- 'a hapless journey's end' [HQ]

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THE 'WORD & THE GOD made word -- i.e.,
'THE SAME <HOUTOS>'s'
NEW - JOURNEY
'TOWARDS- PROS'
'AN 'UNKNOWN' GOD'

    'SALEM'

where was the famous biblical city of 'SALEM' ;

which was associated ONLY with the 'canaanite' melchisedec;

a king of 'salem' and the priest -- imam of the lord, the most high god--yhwh elyon el;

and abraham [pbuth], who was also an imam--priest, according to the islamic tradition?

'JERUSALEM'
in the holy bible

JERUSALEM in the eyes of her god

Jerusalem and her idols

   Isaiah 10:10 As my hand hath found the kingdoms of the idols, and whose graven images did excel them of Jerusalem and of Samaria: Isaiah 10:11 Shall I not, as I have done unto Samaria and her idols, so do to Jerusalem and her idols?

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'THE BIBLE MAINTENANCE SERVICES'

corrupting the 'word of god'

rest assured, corrupting the 'word of god' and, still claiming it to be the unadulterated 'word of god,' comes naturally to some people. SEE ALSO What I Believe via the KJV.

The 134 Passages Where The Sopherim Altered "Jehovah" to "Adonai". This Is Appendix 32 From The Companion Bible.

The "Eighteen Emendations" of the Sopherim.
This Is Appendix 33 From The Companion Bible.

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IMPORTANT

002.079 Therefore woe be unto those who write the Scripture with their hands and then say, "This is from Allah's PRESENCE -- min indillaahi," that they may purchase a small gain therewith. Woe unto them for that their hands have written, and woe unto them for that they earn thereby.

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Strong's Number:

Greek Word: Lovgoß
Transliterated Word: logos
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THE WORD -- lovgoß -- 'LOGOV'[1] -- [3056]

WORDS--Word[1][kjv] [1] [tr] DISPLACED    God[2][kjv][2] [tr]

The King James Version (Authorized)

Joh 1:1
In the beginning was the Word, and the Word was with God, and the Word[1] was God.[2]
jEn ajrch'/ h\n oJ lovgoß, kai; oJ lovgoß h\n pro;ß to;n qeovn, kai; qeo;ß[2] h\n oJ lovgoß.[1]

Joh 1:2
The same was in the beginning with God.
ouJ'toß h\n ejn ajrch'/ pro;ß to;n qeovn.

IMPORTANT

note the scripture construction of john 1:1 and position of 'THE LAST 'WORD--lovgoß' 'LOGOV'[1]' in the ORIGINAL Textus Receptus of the Greek,' as published.

see below as well.

and then compare the same with the '2^NDedition of Textus Receptus' - given below;and also ITS english rendition; again, as published by one and the same CHRISTIAN SOURCE. see details below.

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PROOF OF CORRUPTION

WORDS
[2]
DISPLACED
[1]

kai; qeo;ß[2] h\n oJ lovgoß[1]

John 1:1 (TR) kai qeoV[2] hn o logoV[1]

john 1:1 [kjv] 'and the Word[1] was God[2].'

contrary to the popular christian claim, unshakable belief and faith in the same, the above seems to be an incorrect english rendition of 'the Words and thoughts in the Textus Receptus of the Greek,' see below.

compare

JOHN 1:1 NIV interlinear greek --    kai; qeo;ß [2] h\n oJ lovgoß.' [1]'

and god[2] was the word[1]'

please feel free to use the strong's numerical system in order to verify the following facts of undeniable corruption in the bible.

source #1

kai; qeo;ß[2] h\n oJ lovgoß[1]

   King James Version (KJV)


     :    John - Chapter 1:1

words [2]   displaced [1]

and [2532]    kai

the Word [3056]    logos [1]

was [2258]    en

God. [2316]    theos [2]

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   CORRECT RENDITION

--kai -- theos[2] -- en -logos[1] and god[2] was the word[1]  [see below]

The same [3778]    houtos

was [2258]    en

in [1722]    en

the beginning [746]    arche

with [4314]    pros

God. [2316]    theos

[emphasis added, navali]

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john 1:1 -- please note the flagrant differences highlighted above or, if you will, between the 2 variant versions of Textus Receptus of the Greek' just cited.

BOTH [variant] versions were OFFICIALLY PUBLISHED by one and the same christian source.

this is not a typical example by any means.

rather, it had been a common - "GODLY INSPIRED" - practice for ages now among the christian editors and publishers of the so-called 'holy' bible, which was/is at their total mercy.

says the self-proclaimed jackass of the christian world:

balaam's ass speaks journal

    DOCTRINAL STATEMENT:

I prefer that you also read What I Believe via the KJV.

1. The Word of God is 100% without error in the Words and thoughts in the Textus Receptus of the Greek, and in the last Bible for this age, The King James Bible 1611. God's preservation of His Word today is as absolute and supernatural as the inspiration of the original manuscripts.

      Editor and Jack Ass in General:
Steve Van Nattan [http://www.balaams-ass.com/journal/believe.htm] THINGS IN GENERAL

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question

in the light of these grave and irreconcilable variations, what did john the baptist really say about:

1.     jesus, the 'word' ?

here's some food for thought.

    Romans 8:32 (KJV) He that SPARED NOT his own Son, Romans 8:3 God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh:

        Galatians 3:13 Christ .... being made a curse for us: for it is written, Cursed is every one that hangeth on a tree:

    Galatians 4:4 (KJV) But when the fullness of the time was come, God sent forth his Son, made of a woman, made under the law,

       Hebrews 5:8 Though he were a Son, yet learned he obedience by the things which he suffered;

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vis-à-vis

2.     god, the 'WORD'?

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source #2

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(Greek/English Interlinear (tr) NT) John 1:1 | en <1722> {IN [THE]} arch <746> {BEGINNING} hn <2258> (5713) {WAS} o <3588> {THE} logoV <3056> {WORD,} kai <2532> {AND} o <3588> {THE} logoV <3056> {WORD} hn <2258> (5713) {WAS} proV <4314> ton <3588> {WITH} qeon <2316> {GOD,}    kai <2532> {AND} qeoV <2316> {GOD} hn <2258> (5713) {WAS} o <3588> {THE} logoV <3056> {WORD.}   2 outoV <3778> {HE}   hn <2258> (5713) {WAS} en <1722> {IN [THE]} arch <746> {BEGINNING} proV <4314> ton <3588> {WITH} qeon <2316> {GOD.}

[emphasis added, navali]

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    correct rendition

   kai <2532> {AND} qeoV <2316> {GOD} hn <2258> (5713) {WAS} o <3588> {THE} logoV <3056> {WORD.}     -- and god[2] was the word[1].

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source #3

    John 1:1 (Textus Receptus)

kai; qeo;ß h\n oJ lovgoß.

'KAI QEOV [2] HN O LOGOV[1]'

meaning:

'and god [2]was the word[1]'

strong's number

source #4

    3056 logos[1]

lovgoß Logos (log'-os);
Word Origin: Greek, Noun Masculine, Strong #: 3056

     correct rendition

'and god[2] was the w_o_r_d_[1]-- l_o_v_g_o_ß--<3_0_5_6>'

QUESTION AND REFLECTION
on the other hand, if the 'word-logos' preceded god as follows, then why did the same word travel 'towards--pro' god --- kai; oJ lovgoß h\n pro;ß to;n qeovn,?
proof

pros  --  i.e. toward

4253. pro
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pro pro pro
a primary preposition; "fore", i.e. in front of, prior
(figuratively, superior) to:--above, ago, before, or
ever. In the comparative, it retains the same
significations.

4314. pros
Search for G4314 in KJVSL
proV pros pros

a strengthened form of 4253; a preposition of direction; forward to, i.e. toward

John 1

HebGrk John 1:1 (TR)

niv interlinear greek & interlinear greek by george ricker berry

John 1:1

jEn ajrch'/ h\n oJ lovgoß,

kai; oJ lovgoß h\n pro;ß to;n qeovn,

kai; qeo;ß h\n oJ lovgoß.

¹In the beginning was the Word <3056>,
and the Word <3056> was with God,

and God[2] was the WORD[1] <3056>

PROOF: CHRISTIAN SOURCES

[1: the niv interlinear greek new testament - alfred marshall - isbn 0-310 28680-8;
2: interlinear greek new testament numerically coded to strong's exhaustive concordance, by george ricker berry, isbn: 0-8010-5034-0]

John 1:2

ouJ'toß h\n ejn ajrch'/ pro;ß to;n qeovn.

kjv/niv/interlinear greek/new world translation : The same was/ he was/ THIS ONE in the beginning was with God

strong's number

a.          John 1:1 jEn <1722> ajrch'/ <746> h\n <2258> oJ <3588> lovgoß <3056>

b.     kai; <2532> oJ <3588> lovgoß <3056> h\n <2258> pro;ß <4314> to;n <3588> qeovn, <2316>

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   c.     kai; <2532> qeo[2];ß <2316> h\n <2258> oJ <3588> lovgo[1]ß <3056>

John 1:1      jEn ajrch'/ h\n oJ lovgoß,
kai; oJ lovgoß h\n pro;ß to;n qeovn,

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(Textus Receptus)

kai; qeo;ß h\n oJ lovgoß.

c. kai; qeo[2];ß h\n oJ lovgo[1]ß.

strong's number

a.     Joh 1:1 In <1722> the beginning <746> was <2258> the WORD<3056>
b.     and <2532> the WORD <3056> was <2258> with [pro;ß pro;ß--toward] <4314> God, <2316>

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reconstructed sentence

WORDS
[2]
DISPLACED
[1]

and <2532> the WORD[1]     <3056> was <2258> God[2] . <2316>

note the the scripture construction of john 1:1 and the ORIGINAL POSITION of the LAST 'WORD--lovgoß' in the Textus Receptus:

c. 'lovgoß - lovgo[1]ß <3056'

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c. correct rendition

although the rendition in the middle column was correct, the context and meaning thereof did not seem right at all. take for example.

c.    'KAI qeo[2] HN O lovgo[1]ß,'

meaning:

       'and god[2] was the word[1].'

now if 'GOD' was the 'WORD[1]' -- as shown in the Textus Receptus:

then the 'word--christ' -- 'WAS IN'

   and god, 'THE WORD' 'WAS definitely OUT'



MORE POWER TO THE WORD <LOGOS> <3056>

meaning: 'in the beginning was the word,' -- i.e., A SINGLE ENTITY.

in the middle, 'the word was 'WITH - TOWARDS - PROS' god.' -- i.e., the former was traveling towards GOD.

HENCE, NOT ONLY WERE THERE 2 SEPARATE AND DISTINCT ENTITIES PRESENT THEN ;

BUT ALSO THEIR RESPECTIVE IDENTITY WAS DIFFERENT RIGHT UP TO THAT POINT.

and in the end,
'god[2] himself WAS OR BECAME the word[1]'

MEANING: THERE WERE '2 SEPARATE & DISTINCT WORDS--LOGOS':

the 'WORD-jesus' ;

and god, the WORD ;

and 'neither' was divine at this meeting point.

remember, the word was NOT god per se!

it was either 'with god' ;

or was still traveling 'towards-pros' that god.

and then, 'god[2] became the word[1]' --

   c. kai; qeo;ß h\n oJ lovgoß. kai; qeo;ß h\n oJ lovgoß -- and God[2] was the WORD[1] <3056>.

see additional proof below.

the word--jesus won hands down

THE 'WORD[1] PREVAILED' OVER GOD[2].

AND THAT THIS WORD, THAT IS, JESUS CREATED 'GOD, THE WORD' OR HIS OWN FATHER SINCE:

John 1:3 (KJV) All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

   By him. In this place it is affirmed that creation was effected by the Word, or the Son of God. In Gen 1:1, it is said that the Being who created the heavens and the earth was God. In Ps 102:25-28, this work is ascribed to Jehovah. The Word, or the Son of God, is therefore appropriately called God. The work of creation is uniformly ascribed in the Scriptures to the second person of the Trinity. See Col 1:16; Heb 1:2,10.

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as for those of you who do not agree with the above assertion are kindly requested to consider the following biblical facts 'as is.'

JACOB -- prevailed against god
Ge 32:24
And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a hman with him until the
breaking of the day.
h. That is, God in the form of a man.

Genesis 32:24 (KJV) And Jacob was left alone; and there wrestled a man with him until the breaking of the day. 25 And when he saw that he prevailed not against him, he touched the hollow of his thigh; and the hollow of Jacob's thigh was out of joint, as he wrestled with him.

   26 And he said, Let me go, for the day breaketh. And he said, I will not let thee go, except thou bless me. 27 And he said unto him, What [is] thy name? And he said, Jacob. 28 And he said, Thy name shall be called no more Jacob, but Israel: for as a prince hast thou power with God and with men, and hast prevailed. 29 And Jacob asked [him], and said, Tell [me], I pray thee, thy name. And he said, Wherefore [is] it [that] thou dost ask after my name? And he blessed him there.
30 And Jacob called the name of the place Peniel: for I have seen God face to face, and my life is preserved. {Peniel: that is, The face of God}

the Lord-Yahweh could not drive out
   Judges 1:19 (WEB) Yahweh was with Judah; and drove out the inhabitants of the hill country; for he could not drive out the inhabitants of the valley, because they had chariots of iron.

the lord god repented
Genesis 6:6 (KJV) And it repented the LORD that he had made man on the earth, and it grieved him at his heart.

Exodus 32:14 (KJV) And the LORD repented of the evil which he thought to do unto his people.

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the biblical god tempted satan

    Job 1:8 (WEB) Yahweh said to Satan, "Have you considered my servant, Job? For there is none like him in the earth, a blameless and an upright man, one who fears God, and turns away from evil."

9 Then Satan answered Yahweh, and said, "Does Job fear God for nothing?

rest assured, their ongoing distortions and corrections of the same over the centuries past speak for themselves.

2 - two german renditions

WORDS
[2]
DISPLACED
[1]

AND THE WORD WAS GOD
AND GOD WAS THE WORD
AND GOD WAS THE WORD

DISTORTION
Johannes 1

Joh 1:1 Im Anfang war das Wort,

und das Wort war bei Gott,

reconstructed sentence

und das Wort war Gott.

Joh 1:2 Dieses war im Anfang bei Gott.

compare again with the original

     John 1:1
jEn ajrch'/ h\n oJ lovgoß,

kai; oJ lovgoß h\n pro;ß to;n qeovn,

kai; qeo;ß h\n oJ lovgoß.

John 1:2 (TR) outoV hn en arch proV ton qeon
correct rendition
lutheran german bible 1912

Johannes 1:1 (LGB) Im Anfang war das Wort,

und das Wort war bei Gott,

correct

c.    und Gott war das Wort.

2 Dasselbe war im Anfang bei Gott.

note the remarkable differences

1.    translation one: 'and the word was god' [QEOV--GOTT] -- i.e., the word became -- divine or god.

2.    translation two: c. 'god was the word' [O LOGOV --- DAS Wort]. i.e., god BECAME the word.

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'and the Word was 'A' god,' and rightly so.

WORDS
[2]
DISPLACED
[1]

DISTORTION -- jehovah's witnesses

John 1: 1 - 3
In [the] beginning the Word was, and the Word was with God,

reconstructed sentence

c. and the Word was A god.
This one was in [the] beginning with God.

regardless, jesus then, was the WORD, which not only preceded god, the father in the beginning,
but also that god, the FATHER, had become the WORD itself.
and then, 'A' god traveled 'towards--pros' THE GOD!

no pun intended.

PRECEDENCE

and that, johannine 1:1 'god-word[1]

was with the johannine 1:2 'god' in the beginning;

if so, WHERE did the latter 'GOD' COME from?

now, how do you explain this rationally 'as is'?

in other words, not only did the PRIMAL 'word' influence god;

but also it was given PRECEDENCE in all matters.

regardless, there was absolutely NO TRUTH OR LOGIC in the above quoted and analyzed johannine text because in one instance,

'the word was god' ;

and in the other, 'god was the WORD.'

  and, that only the 'converted god'
or 'the same <houtos>'
or 'GOD' who had become the 'word[1]'
:
was with the LATTER GOD in the beginning.

WORDS
[2]
DISPLACED
[1]

DISTORTION

a.     John 1:1 (KJVSL) In <en> the beginning <arche> was <en> the WORD <LOGOS>,

b.     and <kai> the WORD <LOGOS> was <en> with <pros> God <theos>,

reconstructed sentence  --

c.    and <kai> the WORD[1] <LOGOS> was <en> God[2] <theos>.

John 1:2 (KJVSL) The same <houtos> was <en> in <en> the beginning <arche> with <pros> God <theos>.

ou|toß Houtos (hoo'-tos);
Word Origin: Greek, , Strong #: 3778

this, these, etc.

   3778. houtos
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outoV houtos hoo'-tos houtoi hoo'-toy,
nominative feminine singular haute how'-tay, and
nominative feminine plural hautai how'-tahee
from the article 3588 and 846; the he (she or it),
i.e. this or that (often with article repeated):--he (it
was that), hereof, it, she, such as, the same,
these, they, this (man, same, woman), which,
who.
See Greek 846
See Greek 3588

pros  --  i.e. toward

4253. pro
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pro pro pro
a primary preposition; "fore", i.e. in front of, prior
(figuratively, superior) to:--above, ago, before, or
ever. In the comparative, it retains the same
significations.

4314. pros
Search for G4314 in KJVSL
proV pros pros

a strengthened form of 4253; a preposition of direction; forward to, i.e. toward (with the genitive case, the side of, i.e. pertaining to; with the dative case, by the side of, i.e. near to; usually with the accusative case, the place, time, occasion, or respect, which is the destination of the relation, i.e. whither or for which it is predicated) :--about, according to , against, among, at, because of, before, between, (where-)by, for, X at thy house, in, for intent, nigh unto, of, which pertain to, that, to (the end that), X together, to (you) -ward, unto, with(-in). In the comparative case, it denotes essentially the same applications, namely, motion towards, accession to, or nearness at. See Greek 4253

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THE 'WORD & THE GOD made word -- i.e.,
'THE SAME <HOUTOS>'s'
NEW - JOURNEY
'TOWARDS--PROS'
'AN 'UNKNOWN' GOD'

John 1:2 (KJVSL) The same <houtos> <3778 > [GOD OR WORD] was <en> in <en> the beginning <arche> with <pros> God <theos>.

4314. pros
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proV pros pros
a strengthened form of 4253; a preposition of direction; forward to, i.e. toward

   3778. houtos
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outoV houtos hoo'-tos houtoi hoo'-toy,

nominative feminine singular haute how'-tay,

and nominative feminine plural hautai how'-tahee

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says my kid sister,
'CHRISTIANITY AT GROUND-ZERO -- [9/11] -- SEPTEMBER 2002' -- 'a hapless journey's end' [HQ]

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a.    the biblical god's total loss
john 1:1
b.    the word[1] was neither 'with' nor had it 'BECOME 'a' god'

on the contrary, he/it was STILL traveling 'towards--PROS' - god.

meaning:

THE 'WORD'[1] DID NOT MAKE IT TO ITS/HIS ULTIMATE 'DIVINE DESTINATION.'

WHY?

because, god[2] - journeyed towards the word[1] - instead;

and himself became the word[1].

stop note   & REFLECT

1.    because of its incomplete one-way journey,
THE 'WORD'[1] DID NOT BECOME 'DIVINE' ;
2.    whereas, the god had BECOME the WORD[1] at their -- LOWER meeting place.
3.    hence, neither could be considered as being DIVINE at that critical juncture.

4.   THIS johannine 1:1 'GOD not only LOST his divinity ;
BECAUSE
HE - BECAME
THE WORD[1] INSTEAD ;
5.    but also lost his masculinity ;
6.  then, the same -- <houtos> started a 'NEW journey' towards
7.    'another' john 1:2 'GOD';

8.    who, for all practical purposes, was not a part of the john 1:1 narration ;
9. nor the original godhead depicted therein.
10.    moreover, as noted earlier john himself, DID NOT RECOGNIZE   jesus' divinity in the book of revelation.

so, at the end of the day, we are left with a new and/or the least suspected form of worship.

John 1:2 (KJVSL) The same <houtos> <3778 > [GOD OR WORD[1]

nominative feminine singular haute how'-tay,

worshipping 'female deities' vis-à-vis SATAN

4:115. And whoso opposeth the messenger after the guidance (of Allah) hath been manifested unto him, and followeth other than the believer's way, We appoint for him that unto which he himself hath turned, and expose him unto hell - a hapless journey's end! 4:116. Lo! Allah pardoneth not that partners should be ascribed unto Him. He pardoneth all save that to whom He will. Whoso ascribeth partners unto Allah hath wandered far astray. 4:117. They invoke in His stead only females; they pray to none else than Satan, a rebel 4:118. Whom Allah cursed, and he said: Surely I will take of Thy bondmen an appointed portion, 4:119. And surely I will lead them astray,

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so after all is said and done, jesus, the word prevailed against GOD, THE WORD -- just as had jacob - israel before him.

the 'new union' between them was satanic.

and worship of the 'new feminine' deity TANTAMOUNTS to worship of the SATAN.

any wonder why jesus had so many encounters with the devil during his brief commission?

paul followed the same path.

INTERMISSION

to be continued: ACT_2

             003.095 Say: Allah speaketh truth.
So follow the religion of Abraham [imam],

Lakum Diinukum--Unto you your Religion
WA LIYA DIIN--AND UNTO ME MY RELIGION
Kaafiruun--Disbelievers - Surah 109:6

shalom, salaam:peace

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kai; qeo;ß[2] h\n oJ lovgoß[1]
King James Version (KJV)
: John - Chapter 1:1

words	[2]	displaced [1]

and	[2532]	kai
the Word	[3056]	logos [1]
was	[2258]	en
God.	[2316]	theos [2]

	HebGrk John 1:1 (TR)	niv interlinear greek & interlinear greek by george ricker berry
John 1:1	jEn ajrch'/ h\n oJ lovgoß, kai; oJ lovgoß h\n pro;ß to;n qeovn, kai; qeo;ß h\n oJ lovgoß.	¹In the beginning was the Word <3056>, and the Word <3056> was with God, and God[2] was the WORD[1] <3056>
PROOF: CHRISTIAN SOURCES	[1: the niv interlinear greek new testament - alfred marshall - isbn 0-310 28680-8; 2: interlinear greek new testament numerically coded to strong's exhaustive concordance, by george ricker berry, isbn: 0-8010-5034-0]
John 1:2	ouJ'toß h\n ejn ajrch'/ pro;ß to;n qeovn.	kjv/niv/interlinear greek/new world translation : The same was/ he was/ THIS ONE in the beginning was with God

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I prefer that you also read What I Believe via the KJV.