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section 1a

bismillaahir rahmaanir rahiim -- in the name of allah, rahman, rahim

the abrahamaic faith - vis-à-vis - 'good versus evil,' - 'the [usa] crusade' and the *holy* shroud of turin   --- section 1 of 3

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      the _d_i_v_i_n_e_l_y_ 'purified & blessed houses' of abraham [as] & the HOLY prophet and messenger of allah [sas]

N_O_T the 'saved-savior christ'

          43:85. And blessed be He unto Whom--wa tabaarakallaazii -- belongeth the Sovereignty--MULKUS -- of the heavens and the earth -- wa maa--and he who -- and that is between them, and with Whom is knowledge of the Hour, and unto Whom ye will be returned.

         55:78. Blessed be the name of your Lord, the Lord of Glory and Honor! -- 78. Tabaraka ismu rabbika thee aljalali waal-ikrami -- Shakir's Quran Translation
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barakat -- blessedness
&
purity p_e_r_s_o_n_i_f_i_e_d

       11:73. They said: Wonderest thou at the commandment of Allah -- amrillaahi [imamat--priesthood - 4:59,80]? The mercy of Allah-- rahma-tullaahi [21:105; and His blessedness -- BARAKAATA-HUU -- be upon you, O people of the house! Lo! He is Owner of Praise, Owner of Glory!

      19:31. And hath made me [jesus] blessed -- mubaarakan -- wheresoever I may be, and hath enjoined upon me prayer and almsgiving so long as I remain alive,

      33:33. Allah's wish is but to remove uncleanness far from you, O Folk of the Household, and cleanse you with a thorough cleansing. 33:34. And bear in mind that which is recited in your houses of the revelations of Allah and wisdom. Lo! Allah is Subtile, Aware.

      21:107. We sent thee not save as a mercy un to the worlds -- 107. Wama arsalnaka illa rahmatan lilAAalameena.

       37:109. Salaamun--Peace be unto Abraham! 37:112. And we gave him tidings of the birth of Isaac, a prophet of the righteous. 37:113. wa baaraknaa alayhi -- And We blessed him -- [ishmael] -- and Isaac. And of their seed are some who do good,

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and this being the case, the 'PURE AND PURIFIED' IMAM OR THE _C_H_R_I_S_T_ OF THE TIME -- IN ISLAMIC CONTEXT ONLY -- is _N_O_T_ the 'saved-savior christ' -- [see below] -- of the biblical era, context and connotation. this irrefutable fact may be further discerned from the old and new testaments:

     Exodus 28:41 And thou shalt put them upon Aaron thy brother,
and his sons with him;
and shalt ANOINT THEM,
AND CONSECRATE THEM,
AND SANCTIFY THEM,
that they may minister unto me in the priest's -- [IMAM] -- office.
     Exodus 40:13 And thou shalt put upon
Aaron the HOLY garments,
AND ANOINT HIM,
AND SANCTIFY HIM;
that he may minister unto me in the priest's-- [IMAM] -- office.

     Exodus 29:29 The holy garments of Aaron shall be for his sons after him, that in them they may be anointed and ordained.    Exodus 40:15 and you shall anoint them even as you have anointed their father, that they may minister as priests--imams -- to Me;    Exodus 30:30 You shall anoint Aaron and his sons, and SANCTIFY them, that they may minister as anoint Aaron and his sons, and SANCTIFY them, that they may minister as priests--imams -- to Me.

  Leviticus 8:12 and he poureth of the anointing oil on the head of Aaron, and anointeth him to sanctify him.

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the holy imam [sa]

     Hebrews 7:25 Wherefore he is able also to save them to the uttermost that come unto God by him, seeing he ever liveth to make intercession for them. Hebrews 7:26 For such an high priest -- imam -- became us, who is holy, harmless, undefiled, separate from sinners, and made higher than the heavens;     Hebrews 8:1 Now of the things which we have spoken this is the sum: We have such an high priest, who is set on the right hand of the throne of the Majesty in the heavens;

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insha'allaah these texts will show without doubt, that the holy imam [sa] is indeed, 'holy and pure' in every DIVINE sense of the term because not only was he 'purified by allah' himself [HQ. 33:33,34]; but also he is continually in allah's presence and vice versa.

       020.046 He said: Fear not. Lo! I [allah] am with you twain [moses--prophet and aaron-- priest--imam] , Hearing and Seeing.

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however, only those who are disbelievers and spiritually blind fail to see this STUPENDOUS PHENOMENON. unfortunately, they pursue only material things which he associates himself with.  they forget that there is no dichotomy between matter and spirit in islam. thus, they also forget that which is more important to their souls namely, the higher spiritual realm and the universal soul.

please review the following biblical text with regards to the aforesaid:

Raphael Discloses His Identity

    tobit 12: 11 "I will now declare the whole truth to you and will conceal nothing from you. Already I have declared it to you when I said, 'It is good to conceal the secret of a king, but to reveal with due honor the works of God.' ¹⁵I am Raphael, one of the seven angels who stand ready and enter before the glory of the Lord." ... Bless God forevermore. ¹⁸As for me, when I was with you, I was not acting on my own will, but by the will of God. Bless him each and every day; sing his praises. ¹⁹Although you were watching me, I really did not eat or drink anything--but what you saw was a vision. ²⁰So now get up from the ground,^g and acknowledge God. See, I am ascending to him who sent me.

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now what to speak of the divine and holy imam ali [sa] who was there long before all the higher and highest angels of god came into being? see Pooya/Ali Commentary 27:20 &

       it is stated in minhaj al sadiqin and umdat al bayan -- [SUNNI HADITH] -- that then the holy prophet said to ALI:

"O ALI, thou had been HIDDEN -- [BATIN, navali] -- WITH ALL THE PROPHETS of allah preceding me, AND WITH ME THOU ARE MANIFEST - [ZAHIR, navali] - [M.S. U.B.] [#vr. 40. [1699], s.v. mir ahmed ALI, pp. 1157].

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review HQ. 36:12; 17:71-72; psalms 110: 1-4 & hebrews 7:1-3 in this context as well.

   BLESSINGS & the christ -- anointed -- messiah associated with ISLAM & BACA --- [becca and mecca -- in arabic]

please read the following with some intelligence, as this is the essence of the true islam in its pristine purity.

        114: 1. Say: I seek refuge in the Lord of mankind, 1.    Qul aAAoothu birabbi alnnasi
114: 2. The King of mankind, 2. Maliki alnnasi 114: 3. The god of mankind, 3.   Ilahi alnnasi

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'the essence and reality of god,' is common to both the bible and the holy qur'an. both scriptures declare him as the lord, THE KING and the god of all mankind.

now the important thing to note here is that if these three DIFFERENT names or REVELATIONS of the lord god represent 3-three separate entities in islam then we have god forbid, a form of 'trinity' in the eternal faith of islam as well.

however, that is not the case at all. islam says, 'his are the most beautiful names.' and prior to surah nas--mankind - 114 -- just cited, we have surah 112: 1, 'Say: He is Allah, the One! '

so, when people go on a pilgrimage to the house @ baca/bekka/mecca [psalms 84:1-6 & HQ. 3:95-97], they invoke him -- 'our shield or, the shield and thy exceeding great reward' -- i.e., the living god of abraham [pbuh], regardless.

our shield

        Psalm 84 1 How lovely is your dwelling place, O LORD Almighty! My soul yearns, even faints, for the courts of the LORD; my heart and my flesh cry out for the living God.
        3   O LORD Almighty,
                 my King
              and my God.
4 Blessed are those who dwell in your house; they are ever praising you. Selah 5 Blessed are those whose strength is in you, who have set their hearts on pilgrimage. 6 As they pass through the Valley of Baca, [niv];

       Psalms 84:6 Passing through the valley of Baca they make it a spring; The early rain also covers it with blessings [ nasb; darby]. --- Psalms 84:8 O LORD God of hosts, hear my prayer; Psalms 84:9 Behold our shield, O God, And look upon the face of Your anointed -- CHRIST -- MESSISAH.

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important:

see how this heavenly verse [Psalms 84:9] joined together:

i.     the 'ANOINTED--messiah--CHRIST' and the house of the lord, the king and the god of all mankind.
ii.     it also connected him with the divine blessings and pilgrimage to that holy house -- 'in his presence.'

        2:196. And accomplish the pilgrimage and the visit for Allah--umrata lillaah;

        22:26. And (remember) when We prepared for Abraham [IMAM] the place of the (holy) House, saying: Ascribe thou no thing as partner unto Me, and PURIFY MY HOUSE ..... 22:27. And proclaim unto mankind the pilgrimage. They will come UNTO THEE on foot ;

           22. 26: C2797. The site of Makkah was granted to Abraham [IMAM] (and his son Ismail) for a place of worship that was to be pure and universal, without being reserved (like Solomon's Temple of later times) to any one People or Race. Yusuf Ali's Commentary from QuranTrans

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IMPORTANT

hence, how much more important was/is or should be the true living messiah--anointed or THE CHRIST of the time to ISLAM, around whom, WAS/IS CENTRED the very concept and purpose of the pilgrimage -- hajj? now, i am talking about 'the true universal and eternal islam,' as revealed in the holy qur'an ONLY.

from that viewpoint alone, it is very important to recognize the NATURE and mission of the christ jesus, son of mary [pbuth] -- since not only was he closer to our own time, with over a billion followers today -- but also the true concept and significance of the 'christhood' in ISLAM can only be understood properly if we follow his example and what was revealed about him and to HIM in the holy qur'an. see HQ. 4:171,172; 43:57-64.

      43:63. When Jesus came with MANIFEST PROOFS--BAYYINAATI, he said: I have come unto you with wisdom, and to make plain some of that concerning which ye differ. So keep your duty to Allah, and obey me. 43:64. Lo! Allah, He is my Lord and your Lord. So worship Him. This is a right path---HAZAA SIRAATUM MUSTAQQIM.

            4.171:   C676. Christ's attributes are mentioned: (1) that he was the son of a woman, Mary and therefore a man; (2) but a messenger, a man with a mission from Allah, and therefore entitied to honour; (3) a Word bestowed on Mary, for he was created by Allah's word "Be" (kun), and he was: iii. 59; (4) a spirit proceeding from Allah, but not Allah: his life and his mission were more limited than in the case of some other Messengers, though we must pay equal honour to him as a Prophet of Allah. The doctrines of Trinity, equality with Allah, and sonship, are repudiated as blasphemies. Allah is independent of all needs and has no need of a son to manage His affairs. The Gospel of John (whoever wrote it) has put in a great deal of Alexandrian and Gnostic mysticism round the doctrine of the Word (Greek, Logos), but it is simply explained here. Yusuf Ali's Commentary from QuranTrans

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allah says that those manifest proofs were also present in the blessed house at baca [psalms 84:1-6] -- bekka [HQ: 3:95-97], as was the station of abraham [imam] [sa].

I am thy shield

               Isaiah 52:12 for the LORD will go before you;
and the God of Israel will be your reward.

       Genesis 15:1 After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward. Genesis 15:2 And Abram said, Lord GOD, what wilt thou give me, seeing I go childless, Genesis 15:3 And Abram said, Behold, to me thou hast given no seed: and, lo, one born in my house is mine heir.

IMPORTANT

         Genesis 15:4 And, behold, the word of the LORD came unto him, saying, This shall not be thine heir; but h_e that shall come forth out of thine own bowels shall be thine heir.

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PLEASE NOTE :

'but h_e that shall come forth out of thine own bowels shall be thine heir' --

a.     meaning: god promised abram -- [75 years old] -- only 'one' heir at this time.
b.     remember also that only ishmael was born in accordance with this divine promise -- some 13 years later.
c.     he was abraham's -- [86 years old] -- own 'flesh and blood' -- the only son and seed for 14 solid years after his birth.
d.     isaac was born when abraham was 100 years old.

hence, nothing divine sh/could be taken away from that which the lord god of abraham himself had already conferred on ishmael [pbuth]. the lord god did not revoke or abrogate any of it.

as a matter of interest, according to genesis 16:1-3 abram's WIFE sarai gave her handmaid to abram to be HIS WIFE.

and that being an irrefutable fact, it would be fair then, to say that the word 'wife' and her status was synonymous with the word and status of a 'handmaid' -- as was perhaps, the word 'wife' and her status with that of a 'concubine,' like so:

         Genesis 25:1 Then again Abraham took a wife, and her name was Keturah. Genesis 25:4 All these were the children of Keturah [WIFE]. Chronicles I 1:32 Now the sons of Keturah, Abraham's concubine

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the point being:

    although abraham had taken a 3rd wife as above -- centuries later the bible editors and detractors depicted her as his concubine;
    thereby giving all rights and legitimacy only to sarah, his first wife.

    despite the play on words and her 'status,' etc., -- we have already seen [section 1] that abraham spent more time with hagar, the handmaid and her son ishmael;

    than with the princess and her 'promised son' and prince, isaac.

     abraham was not even present with her when she died. he came from some place else to mourn for her.

    that the bondwoman and her son were featured more prominently in god's divine plan.

    whereas the princess and her 'promised' son were far removed from the same.

    as if that was not enough, the descendants of the bondwoman and her son -- the ishmaelites were the true heroes of the day and SAVIORS of the israelites, according to the bible per se.

those editors and detractors had been accused like so:

       Isaiah 24:5 The earth also is defiled under the inhabitants thereof; because they have transgressed the laws, changed the ordinance, broken the everlasting covenant.       "How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the Lord is with us? Lo, certainly in VAIN made he it; the PEN OF THE SCRIBE IS IN VAIN." Jeremiah 8:8. Mark 7:13 [says jesus] Making the word of God of none effect through your tradition, which ye have delivered: and many such like things do ye

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that said, the holy qur'an continues with the divine blessings which had been conferred upon upon abraham, ishmael [pbuth] and the holy house:

    3:95. Say: Allah has spoken the truth, therefore follow the religion of Ibrahim --[IMAM]-- abraham, the upright one; and he was not one of the polytheists. 3:96. Most surely the first house appointed for men is the one at Bekka, blessed and a guidance for the nations. 3:97. In it are MANIFEST REVELATIONS--AAYAATUM--BAYYINAATUM--MAQAAMU-- the STATION OF Ibrahim--abraham [IMAM] , and whoever enters it shall be secure, and pilgrimage to the House is incumbent upon men for the sake of Allah, Shakir's Quran Translation

        3. 96: C422. Bakka: same as Makkah, perhaps an older name. The foundation of the Kaba goes back to Abraham.
C423. 'Alamin: all the worlds (i. 2. ii), all kinds of beings; all nations (iii. 42): all creatures (iii. 97), Yusuf Ali's Commentary from QuranTrans
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the lord god of all and their 'common' practices

          5:15. O People of the Scripture! Now hath Our messenger come unto you, expounding unto you much of that which ye used to hide in the Scripture, and forgiving much. now hath come unto you light from Allah--MINAL-LAAHI NOOR -- and Scripture MANIFEST-- kitaabim MUBIIN, 5:16. Whereby Allah guideth him who seeketh His good pleasure unto paths of peace. He bringeth them out of darkness unto light by His decree, and guideth them unto a straight path -- SIRAATIM MUSTAQIIM

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now let us see how the holy qur'an guides us through the bible per se! and yes, i mean precisely that. let one scripture guide us through the other.

    Isaiah 42:10 Sing unto the LORD a new song, and his praise from the end of the earth, ye that   go down to the sea, and all that is therein; the isles, and the inhabitants thereof. Isaiah 42:11 Let the wilderness and the cities thereof lift up their voice,the villages that Kedar doth inhabit: let the inhabitants of the rock sing, let them shout from the top of the mountains. Isaiah 42:13 The LORD shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall prevail against his enemies. Isaiah 42:16 And I will bring the blind by a way that they knew not; I will lead them in paths that they have not known: I will make darkness light before them, and crooked things straight. These things will I do unto them, and not forsake them. Isaiah 42:21 The LORD is well pleased for his righteousness' sake; he will magnify the law, and make it honourable.

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fulfillment in islam

   Hzt. Ali's [as] [the LION of allah] -- [ahl-al-bait -- house of muhammad--ahmad--praise--judah -- genesis 49:8-10]. Divine Sword was Dhulfikar [Zulfikar]. the WHITE HORSE was called Dhuldul [ c72 - TARIYE TUN TARANHAR].

the above cited scripture has been interpreted by a non-muslim like so:

         revelation, part i, pp. 360-70: there is no peace for us on these four planets: to attain it, WE MUST ACQUIRE THE WISDOM OF THE WHITE HORSE OF THE KALKI AVATAR... THE WHITE HORSE IS THE WHITE HORSE OF THE AVATAR WHOSE WISDOM WILL BRING PEACE to both man and savage nature - [deceptions and myths of the bible, 1979 edition, lloyd m. graham]

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       56:77. That this is indeed a qur'an Most Honourable,
56:78. In Book well-guarded,
56:79. Which none shall touch but those who are clean:
56:80. A Revelation from the Lord of the Worlds. Yusuf Ali's Quran Translation

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         56. 77: C5260. Your attention is drawn to the momentous issues of the Future by the Qur-An. It is a Revelation described by four characteristics. (1) It is most honourable, karim, which implies, besides the fact that it is worthy of receiving honour, that it confers great favours on those who receive it. (2) It is well-guarded, maknun; precious in itself, and well- preserved in its purity; see n. 5234 to lvi. 23; see also xv. 9, and n. 1944. (3) None but the clean shall touch it,-dean in body, mind, thought, intention, and soul; only such can achieve real contact with its full meaning. (4) It is a Revelation from the Lord of the Worlds, and therefore universal for all. Yusuf Ali's Commentary from QuranTrans

and then the bible says:

         Jeremiah 32:27 Behold, I am the LORD, the God of all flesh:     Isaiah 66:23 And it shall come to pass, that from one new moon to another, and from one sabbath to another, shall all flesh come to worship before me, saith the LORD.      Numbers 27:16 Let the LORD, the God of the spirits of all flesh, set a man over the congregation.

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    002.189 They ask thee, (O Muhammad), of new moons, say: They are fixed seasons for mankind and for the pilgrimage.

    7:158. Say (O Muhammad): O mankind! Lo! I am the messenger of Allah to you all - (the messenger of) Him unto Whom belongeth the Sovereignty of the heavens and the earth. There is no Allah save Him. He quickeneth and He giveth death. So believe in Allah and His messenger, the Prophet who can neither read nor write, who believeth in Allah and in His Words, and follow him that haply ye may be led aright.
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in short, these scriptures show that all the past prophets and messengers practiced islam:

   and that it was associated with 'baca-bekka-mecca.'

   all the divine blessings were/are also associated with god's house @ becca.

   his christ - anointed - messiah - was/is also associated with that holy house.

now, consider the following, as it is just as important for all those who hope to meet with their lord and/or be in the divine presence of god.

cleansing:

          Zechariah 4:14 Then he said, These are the two anointed ones -- [christs -- messiahs] -- who are standing by the Lord of the whole earth.

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     029.023 Those who disbelieve in the revelations of Allah and in (their) Meeting with Him, such have no hope of My mercy.

     3:55. (And remember) when Allah said: O Jesus! Lo! I am gathering thee and causing thee to ascend unto Me, and am cleansing thee of those who disbelieve and am setting those who follow thee above those who disbelieve until the Day of Resurrection.

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please note: in order to be in the god's holy and divine presence one needs to be divinely 'HOLY' as well. simply put, to be 'PURIFIED' by him.

according to the bible

          John I 3:2 Beloved, now are we the sons of God, ..... John I 3:3 And every man that hath this hope in him purifieth himself, even as he is pure.          Peter I 1:22 Seeing ye have purified your souls in obeying the truth through the Spirit

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and as such, the whole concept of 'messiaship -- christhood -- anointment' -- revolves around ITS MAIN objective namely, the 'divine purification' -- be that 'holy, pure, purity, purified-- anointed and/or the purifier.'

       THE SAVED-SAVIOR

salvation of 'Your _a_n_o_i_n_t_e_d'

           Habakkuk 3:13 You went forth for the salvation of Your people, For the salvation of ' Your _a_n_o_i_n_t_e_d.'

MEANING:

     the savior of mankind must first be S_A_V_E_D or save himself first and foremost.
      BECAUSE the salvation of the people depended _D_I_R_E_C_T_L_Y_ on 'the salvation of the anointed--christ--messiah' himself -- i.e., the SAVED - SAVIOR christ.
      otherwise, both his office and mission would be incomplete AND UNFULFILLED, as was obvious from jesus' brief and unsuccessful mission.

mind you, we are not talking about the 'pauline christianity' -- which was founded by paul of tarsus and the early church shortly after the life on earth and mission of the christ jesus, son of mary [pbuth]. moreover, it was nurtured by constantine, who was in fact, the real SAVIOR of this fairly ' new' vis-à-vis pauline faith.

            That all changed in A.D. 312. Constantine, the emperor of Rome, was carrying on his conquests of the World.

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'the guiding and speaking paraclete' -- holy ghost - comforter (?)

       "How do ye say, We are wise, and the law of the Lord is with us? Lo, certainly in VAIN made he it; the PEN OF THE SCRIBE IS IN VAIN." Jeremiah 8:8

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was this a FACT, PROPHECY and/or just a fair warning. frankly, it was all of it, as we will see herein.

        Paul didn't acknowledge the Trinity

If God were a Trinity, surely the apostle Paul, who recorded much of the theological underpinnings of the early Church, would have understood and taught this understanding. Yet we find no such concept in his writings.
Paul's standard greeting in his letters to churches, as well as individuals to whom he wrote, is, "Grace to you and peace from God the Father and the Lord Jesus Christ." There is no mention of the Holy Spirit.

3) Why is the Holy Spirit never depicted as sitting on or standing near the throne as are the Father and the Son? (Acts 7:55,56; Col.3:1; and Rev.5:1-9; 7:10). We do not even see an empty throne for him.

4) 1 Cor.11:3 gives a hierarchy in which women, men, and Messiah each have ahead with Elohim (Yahweh the Father) being the uppermost in authority. Where is the Holy Spirit?

In the final book of the Bible (and the last to be written), the Holy Spirit is conspicuously absent. The book describes "a new heaven and a new earth" (Revelation 21:1) wherein "the tabernacle of God is with men, and He will dwell with them" (verse 3). Jesus Christ, "the Lamb," is also there (verse 22). The Holy Spirit, however, is completely missing -an incredible oversight if this Spirit is the third person of a Trinity. GN

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   1ST PARACLETE

John I 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you,
that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an
ADVOCATE--PARACLETE with the Father,
Jesus Christ the righteous:
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   'ANOTHER' PRACLETE

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall
give you ANOTHER COMFORTER--PARACLETE,
that he may abide with you for ever;

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NOTE: if the 1st 'paraclete--jesus' was and still remained a man of flesh and bones even after his resurrection -- [luke 24:35--44,50-51; acts 7:55-56] -- then 'another paraclete' must also be a human being like unto jesus.

        (1) John 14:16 Jesus says the Father will send another “allos” (243/257) [like himself] Paraclete to these members. If the Holy Ghost was an impersonal force, Jesus probably would’ve used the word “heteros” (2087/2283) [unlike himself] in reference to the Holy Ghost since Jesus was a self-aware being with individual personality. (See Chapter 3).
The Holy Ghost is our Paraclete/Advocate/Comforter (John 14:16,26; 15:26; 16:13; Rom 8:26-27; Moro 8:26; D&C 21:9) just as Jesus is (1 Jn 2:1 cf. John 17:20-24; Rom 8:26,34; Heb 7:25; 2 Ne 2:9-10).

(5) Acts 5:32 This verse describes these Christians as witnesses as well as the Holy Ghost. Since these Christians are fellow-witnesses with the Holy Ghost, if they are sentient beings, likewise the Holy Ghost. Only rational beings are allowed to be witnesses.
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        Acts 5:32 And we are his witnesses of these things; and so is also the Holy Ghost, whom God hath given to them that obey him.

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    John 14:26 But the -- paraclete -- Comforter, -- _W_H_I_C_H_ is the _H_o_l_y_ _G_h_o_s_t,_ whom the Father will send in my name, _h_e_ shall teach you all things, and bring all things to your remembrance, whatsoever I have said unto you.    John 16:13 Howbeit when _h_e,_ the Spirit of truth, is come, _h_e_ will guide you into all truth: for _h_e_ shall not speak of himself; but whatsoever _h_e_ shall hear, that shall _h_e_ speak: and _h_e_ will show you things to come.

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spirit is a prophet:

       John I 4:1 Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world.

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does this -- [for he shall not speak of himself] -- ring a bell somewhere?

      Deuteronomy 18:18 A prophet will I raise up unto them [israelites] from among their brethren [ishmaelites], like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth,   he shall speak in my _n_a_m_e

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    Acts 3:22 For Moses truly said unto the fathers, A prophet shall the Lord your God raise up unto you of your brethren, like unto me; him shall ye hear in all things whatsoever he shall say unto you. Acts 3:23 And it shall come to pass, that every soul, which will not hear that prophet, shall be destroyed from among the people.

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so, how well did the compilers and editors of the new testament understand the old testament, if at all?

it must be remember that the levites and priests at jerusalem were expecting 'that prophet' after the christ. that they were also expecting elias.

       John 1:20 And he confessed, and denied not;
but confessed, I am not the Christ.
John 1:21 And they asked him, What then?
Art thou Elias? And he saith, I am not.
Art thou THAT PROPHET?
And he answered, No.
John 1:25 And they asked him,
and said unto him, Why baptizest thou
then, if thou be not that Christ,
nor Elias,
neither THAT PROPHET?

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question

i.     having said that, why would john ask such grave questions, if indeed he was jesus' forerunner and also had baptized him not too long ago?
ii.     he did testify of him, did he not?
iii.     why did he contradict jesus in this manner?
iv.     why did he say that he was not elias/elijah -- when jesus himself had said to the contrary?
v.     hence, how could jesus mission be complete without his forerunner namely, elias/ elijah?

something was/is not right here for sure.

according to john's own testimony -- he did not know jesus. period! note the emphasis by john himself:

       John 1:31 And I [john] knew him [jesus]   n_o_t:

       Matthew 11:2 Now when JOHN had heard in the prison the works of CHRIST, he sent two of his disciples,
Matthew 11:3 And said unto him, ART THOU HE THAT SHOULD COME, or do we look for another?
       Luke 7:19 And John calling unto him two of his disciples sent them to Jesus, saying, ART THOU HE THAT SHOULD COME? or look we for another?
Luke 7:20 When the men were come unto him, they said, John Baptist hath sent us unto thee, saying, ART THOU HE THAT SHOULD COME? or look we for another?

       John 1:33 And I [john] knew him [jesus]  n_o_t:

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why did john insist on: And I [john] knew him [jesus]   n_o_t????

was he not jesus' preordained forerunner?? despite all these prophecies, signs and happenings surrounding jesus -- john claims that he did not know jesus and/or whether 'jesus was the one that was to come or do we look for another'?

that said, when did john the baptist baptize jesus, if indeed, he had all these mind-boggling questions for him afterwards? when did john baptize him? was it before or after he was cast into prison? surely, jesus was a man of thirty at the time and john, only 6 months older.

to be honest with you, none of this makes any sense at all. it is strange to say the least. it tantamounts to a total denial and rejection of everything that both john and jesus have supposedly said or testified OF EACH OTHER.

and if that is the case, and it is, then what were/are the true facts upon which christianity was based to begin with? these are 'fundamental' questions which cannot be answered rationally from the bible -- AND I MEAN FROM THE _B_I_B_L_E_ as a whole.

THE GENDER _C_R_I_S_I_S_ PLAGUES CHRISTIANITY AND THE BIBLE

THE HOLY GHOST WAS/IS OF EITHER A MASCULINE, FEMININE OR NEUTER GENDER

[YOUR MULTIPLE CHOICE ANSWER]

first of, did you know that the holy ghost/the spirit of god -- was/is of a FEMININE GENDER, according to the bible and the early christian tradition? and that it was also portrayed as such in the bible until the 1st half of the 19th century.

        John 1:32 And John bare record, saying,   i saw the Spirit descending from heaven like a dove, and it abode upon him.     Matthew 3:16 And Jesus, when he was baptized, went up straightway out of the water: and, lo, the heavens were opened unto him, and he saw the Spirit of God descending like a dove, and lighting upon him:

         Mark 1:10 And straightway coming up out of the water, he saw the heavens opened, and the Spirit like a dove descending upon him: Mark 1:11 And there came a voice from heaven, saying, Thou art my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

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VERY STRANGE HAPPENINGS & CIRCUMSTANCES

           Luke 3:20 Added yet this above all, that he shut up John in prison. Luke 3:21 Now when all the people were baptized, it came to pass, that Jesus also being baptized, and praying, the heaven was opened, luke 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased. Luke 3:23 And Jesus himself began to be about thirty years of age, being (as was supposed) the son of Joseph,

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what was the GENDER of:

       the Spirit which descended from heaven like a dove??
       the Spirit of God which descended like a dove??
       the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove??
       the Spirit like a dove descending upon him??

       but then were they all one and the same thing??

   how do we know whether or not they were or, even tell them apart?

IMPORTANT

      WHEN DID jesus receive the holy ghost -- i.e.,

1.     was it before,
2.     during
3.     or after praying [for it]
3.     or to wisdom, his mother in heaven?

see Luke 3:22 above and below.

      none of the other gospellers had reported this important issue -- [praying].

who said what to whom and when? here's you multiple choice answer again

      Matthew 3:17 And lo a voice from heaven, saying, THIS IS my beloved Son , in whom I am well pleased.

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it looks as though, this voice from heaven addressed only those who were around and about jesus and not to him directly.

      Mark 1:11 And there came a voice from heaven, saying, THOU ART my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased.

      Luke 3:22 And the Holy Ghost descended in a bodily shape like a dove upon him, and a voice came from heaven, which said, THOU ART my beloved Son; IN THEE I am well pleased.

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important:

       contrary to the above, these 2 voices from heaven addressed
jesus directly.
       please note that in one case the ' holy ghost in the bodily
shape of the dove' descended ;
       and in the other, the 'spirit like dove.'
       however, neither mark nor luke was a witness to the said events.
       they were merely passing down the ORAL traditions that were delivered to
them in the first place.

on the other hand, the witness who had actually witnessed these events himself spoke nothing about jesus being baptized and/or the voice from the heaven which either declared to or, about jesus as above. and that's not all.

       first of, this witness [john the baptist] did not know jesus from before.
       second, he heard no voice from heaven.
       third, he only saw a spirit alight on jesus.
       fourth, he did not say whether that was the
spirit of god or the holy ghost OR EVEN THE 'HOLY SPIRIT' of any kind.
       fifth, and most importantly, jesus did not baptize anyone with the holy
ghost during his lifetime and mission on earth.

'holy' spirit or just a spirit?

   John 1:31 AND I KNEW HIM NOT:
but that he should be made manifest to Israel,
therefore am I come baptizing with water.
John 1:32 And John bare record, saying,
I saw the 'Spirit' descending from heaven like a dove,
and it abode upon him.
JOHN 1:33 AND I KNEW HIM NOT:
but he that sent me to baptize with water,
the same said unto me,
Upon whom thou shalt see the 'Spirit' descending,
and remaining on him,
the same is he which baptizeth with the Holy Ghost.
John 1:34 AND I SAW, AND BARE RECORD that this is the Son of God. -----

this then, brings us to the next issue. did god, the father say, 'Thou art my beloved Son; in thee I am well pleased'?

at best, this is nothing more than speculation on the editor's part. please compare the above with:

       Peter II 1:17 For he received from God the Father honour and glory, when there came such a voice to him from the excellent glory, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased. Peter II 1:18 And this voice which came from heaven we heard, when we were with him in the holy mount. [ref: luke 9:34-37].

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        Matthew 17:4 Then answered Peter, and said unto Jesus, Lord, it is good for us to be here: if thou wilt, let us make here three tabernacles; one for thee, and one for Moses, and one for Elias. Matthew 17:5 While he yet spake, behold, a bright cloud overshadowed them: and behold a voice out of the cloud, which said, This is my beloved Son, in whom I am well pleased; hear ye him.

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although this reporting seems to be more consistent than all the others seen thus far, this event had nothing to do with jesus' baptism.

i.     even so, how could you really trust peter??
ii.    peter had a confrontation with jesus.
iii.   the master called his disciple satan.
iv.   and this satan disciple denied his master thrice
-- as predicted.

and that's not all.

       PETER CONTRADICTS JESUS (PBUH) REGARDING HIMSELF AS IF THE ONLY WAY:" "Jesus saith unto him, Z am the way, the truth, and the life. no man cometh unto the father but by me. JOHN 14:6

Contradicted by:

Acts 10:34 Then Peter opened his mouth, and said, Of a truth I perceive that God is no respecter of persons: Acts 10:35 But in every nation he that feareth him, and worketh righteousness, is accepted with him.

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this flagrant CONTRADICTION speaks volumes by itself.

let it be known that this simon peter was supposed to be the very rock and foundation of the church after jesus. in fact, the vatican -- traces its ancestral descent, power and authority to this man -- who seemed to contradict his master on most of all issues, as seen herein.

so, according to peter -- jesus was NOT 'the only way, the truth and the life,' as claimed. the following scripture text also lends credence to this assertion:

       John 14:2 In my Father's house are many mansions: if it were not so, I would have told you. I go to prepare a place for you.

see also Deuteronomy 18:15, 18-19; john 1:19-25; acts 3:22,23.

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there were many mansions, right? if so, how come jesus had to leave to prepare only a single 'place for you'? HOW COME JESUS HAD ACCESS TO ONLY A SINGLE UNITY? does this not show that his mission was incomplete and limited in every sense of the term?

and that he would be followed by 'ANOTHER PARACLETE' like unto himself? all indications in the new testament point to that irrefragable conclusion, as will be seen herein.

and by the way, HE -- i.e., 'ANOTHER PARACLETE' was/is AHMED -- according to the Holy Qur'an 61:6 -- and NOT muhammad [sas].

please note that 'ahmed' is another name for THE HOLY 'imam' and his 'imamate-priesthood' is eternal according to both the bible and the holy qur'an. remember, jesus prophesied that 'another paraclete will abide with you forever,' and that is PRECISELY what this holy and divine imamate is! it is 'ETERNAL' --

   John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall give you another Comforter--paraclete, that he may abide with you for ever;

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according to the holy qur'an, only the holy imam [sa] is this -- 'another paraclete' who is like unto jesus and NOT the holy prophet muhammad [sas].

however, the earlier statement [Mark 1:11; Luke 3:22], was representative of a 'motherly love' -- because all characters portrayed therein were of the feminine gender only. thus, it could be construed as motherly affection, a fact which may be gleaned from the gospel of luke per se.

prophets and children of 'wisdom'

   Luke 11:49 Therefore also said the wisdom of God, I will send them prophets and apostles, and some of them they shall slay and persecute: Luke 7:35 [says jesus] But wisdom is justified of all her children.

       Matthew 23:37 O Jerusalem, Jerusalem, thou that killest the prophets, and stonest them which are sent unto thee, how often would I have gathered thy children together, even as a hen gathereth her chickens under her wings, and ye would not!

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this wisdom had been with god from everlasting to everlasting whereas, jesus came much later in time namely, 'in the beginning.' he also died for 3 days and 3 nights, during which period he had no god, the father.

and if this is the case, then jesus in his own words, was one of the children and prophets of wisdom and NOT the 'only begotten son of god,' as we have been led to believe.

REMINDER

   1ST PARACLETE

John I 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you,
that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an
ADVOCATE--PARACLETE with the Father,
Jesus Christ the righteous:
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   'ANOTHER' PRACLETE

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall
give you ANOTHER COMFORTER--PARACLETE,
that he may abide with you for ever;

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NOTE: if the 1st 'paraclete--jesus' was and still remained a man of flesh and bones even after his resurrection -- [luke 24:35--44,50-51; acts 7:55-56] -- then 'another paraclete' must also be a human being like unto jesus.

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       Paul uses a feminine image of the Spirit in the renewal of creation that is brought about by the work of the redeemer:

   We know that the whole creation has been groaning in labour pains until now; {23} and not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly while we wait for adoption, the redemption of our bodies. -- Romans 8:22-23
It is in fact significant that Jesus himself referred more than once to the coming of the Kingdom as like a woman giving birth.

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Neuter Gender

    Luke 11:26 Then it goes and takes along seven other spirits more evil than itself, and they go in and live there; and the last state of that man becomes worse than the first.    Corinthians I 6:19 What? know ye not that your body is the temple of the HOLY GHOST _W_H_I_C_H_ is in you, which ye have of God, and ye are not your own?     Timothy II 1:14 That good thing which was committed unto thee keep by the HOLY GHOST _W_H_I_C_H_ dwelleth in us.

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    Romans 5:5 And hope maketh not ashamed; because the love of God is shed abroad in our hearts by the HOLY GHOST _W_H_I_C_H_ is given unto us. Romans 8:16 The SPIRIT _I_T_S_E_L_F_ beareth witness with our spirit, that we are the children of God: Romans 8:26 Likewise the _S_P_I_R_I_T_ also helpeth our infirmities .... but the SPIRIT _I_T_S_E_L_F_ maketh intercession for us with groanings which cannot be uttered.

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    John 14:26 But the -- paraclete -- Comforter,-- _W_H_I_C_H_ is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, _h_e_ shall teach you all things,

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       However, the Holy Spirit also has attributes that cannot be applied to a person, ie; it fills people (Acts 2:4); can be poured out (Acts 2.17,18); is upon people (Acts 19:6); people can drink it (1 Cor.12:13); it is a down payment (2 Cor.1:22); it is a seal (Eph.1:13); it is symbolic ink (2 Cor.3:3); etc.

Consider 1 Cor.13:4,5 in the KJV. One verse refers to charity as 'itself' and the next verse refers to it as 'her.' Is charity a person? In Ro.8:26 (KJV), the Spirit is referred to as 'itself.' In Acts 12:10, an iron gate is referred to as 'his' in the KJV.
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paraclete -- 'holy' spirit

or just a 'spirit'?

       John 14:26 is the only verse of the Bible which associates the Parakletos with the Holy Spirit. But if we were to go back to the "ancient manuscripts" themselves, we would find that they are not all in agreement that the "Parakletos" is the Holy Spirit. For instance, in the famous the Codex Syriacus, written around the fifth century C.E., and discovered in 1812 on Mount Sinai by Mrs. Agnes S. Lewis (and Mrs. Bensley), the text of 14:26 reads; "Paraclete, the Spirit"; and NOT "Paraclete, the Holy Spirit.".
Is this just knit picking? "Spirit" or "Holy Spirit," what's the big deal? Obviously they both refer to the same thing. Right? Wrong! There is a big difference. A "spirit," according to the language of the Bible simply means "a prophet" See for instance:
"Beloved, believe not every spirit, but try the spirits whether they are of God: because many false prophets are gone out into the world,"
1 John 4:1-3:

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       Feminine Gender

This Trinity can be seen again within the Christian tradition, and yet has
been re-named as Father, Son, Holy Ghost. The Holy Ghost would equate to
the Divine Feminine, and even earlier in our Western Tradition the "dove"
was a symbol of the Divine Feminine and the harbinger of the covenant with Noah.

Thus Jesus is empowered by the Divine Feminine, the Holy Spirit.

To practice humility is the very opposite, it is to BE grace. And what is grace? Grace is the energy that comes from the HOLY SPIRIT, THE FEMININE aspect of the energy of the Source. Grace and humility, in its true sense, is to become the energy of the Mahatma; to allow the vibration of the I Am Presence of MOTHER/ Father God to flow through your being, and integrate it into yourselves to such an extent that all that once was the lower self is dissolved, through love, into this higher energy and this higher state of being.

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Father, Son and Holy Ghost
The Christian doctrine of the trinity -- Father, Son, and Holy Ghost -- was not formalized until the 4th or 5th century C. E. (A), yet the historical concept of a triune deity is much older than that, with evidence dating from the 7th millenium B.C.E. (B).
Even in early Christianity, this trinity had a female member, the Holy Ghost.

As recorded in the scriptures of e_a_r_l_y Christians, the Gnostic scriptures, The Holy Ghost was envisioned as Sophia, the Goddess of Wisdom (C *).

The Holy Ghost's symbol, a dove, is an ancient Goddess symbol, well-known in the days of early Christianity, as was the concept of Wisdom as female, Sophia (B, C *). Sophia The Goddess of Wisdom was popular not only with early Christians, but was also mentioned numerous times in the Old Testament, as evidenced in these quotes from Proverbs 8:

[emphasis added, navali]

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says the bible:

        Genesis 8:9 But the DOVE found no rest for the sole of HER foot, and SHE returned unto him into the ark, ... and took HER, and pulled HER in unto him into the ark. Genesis 8:11 And the dove came in to him in the evening; and, lo, in her mouth was an olive leaf plucked off: so Noah knew that the waters were abated from off the earth.

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          Psalms 68:13 Though ye have lien among the pots, yet shall ye be as the wings of a dove covered with silver, and her feathers with yellow gold.

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       In the "Odes of Solomon'; the oldest surviving Christian hymnal, the Holy Spirit is female. The original tounge of the Hebrew or Aramaic would translate 'Holy Spirit' as female.

It is important to speak of the Holy Spirit, the Comforter and Reconciler, with a feminine pronoun.

spirit bride intro

biblically; The Holy Spirit, 'Spirit of God's wisdom', is our Holy and Divine Mother. Our souls in communion are the Holy Church; Bride of Christ, Daughter of Zion. Virgin Mother Mary and Mary Magdalene personify a female Holy Spirit and the Bride of Christ.

This same idea is reflected in the two Genesis versions of creation. Genesis 1:26 speaks of the creation of man and woman in the image of God. "Let us make ... [humankind] in our image, after our likeness; and let them have dominion over ... all the earth." "Male and female ... [God] created them."

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if the above is the truth and it is according to the biblical text just cited, i.e., the holy ghost was of a feminine gender then -- 'ANOTHER PARACLETE--COMFORTER--ADVOCATE' like unto jesus -- COULD NOT BE one of the feminine gender at all. he too, had to be of a masculine gender like unto jesus himself.

REMINDER

   1ST PARACLETE

John I 2:1 My little children, these things write I unto you,
that ye sin not. And if any man sin, we have an
ADVOCATE--PARACLETE with the Father,
Jesus Christ the righteous:
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   'ANOTHER' PRACLETE

John 14:16 And I will pray the Father, and he shall
give you ANOTHER COMFORTER--PARACLETE,
that he may abide with you for ever;

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NOTE: if the 1st 'paraclete--jesus' was and still remained a man of flesh and bones even after his resurrection -- [luke 24:35--44,50-51; acts 7:55-56] -- then 'another paraclete' must also be a human being like unto jesus.

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god's word versus man's word

was jesus the long awaited SAVED-SAVIOR
or, simply the 'FORSAKEN' MESSIAH??

           for all intents and purposes, he could not save himself.
           moreover, jesus was FORSAKEN by both his god, the father
           and his disciples.

     HE DID NOT HAVE A GOD FOR 3 DAYS AND 3 NIGHTS:

           Matthew 22:32 I am the God of Abraham, and the God of Isaac, and the God of Jacob? God is not the God of the dead, but of the living.

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           his disheartening prayers and pleadings before the crucifixion
went unanswered.
           his SOUL went to hell for 3 days and 3 nights following his crucifixion -- and spiritual resurrection.

that said, what was the biblical meaning of the term 'forsaken' @ psalms 22:1 itself?

note that this was also the prophesied foundation -- of the events that were developed later around the person and 'crucifixion' of the christ jesus himself in the new testament.

so how strong or weak was the new testament structure that was built on this psalmic premise?

       first of, david, the 'christ--anointed' of god and the DIVINELY DECLARED 'begotten son' ALSO NEEDED his own SALVATION.

       meaning: being a 'christ--anointed' and a DIVINELY DECLARED 'begotten son of god' did not automatically qualify him for salvation and/or turn him into a messiah -- as in a 'world - savior' or whatever.

           whereas, jesus christ was NEVER -- and i mean _N_E_V_E_R - DIVINELY DECLARED 'as the begotten son'.

           jesus himself did not claim to be god's only 'begotten son' either.

           only fanatics like john and paul would have us believe otherwise.

           but then, that is 'god's word versus man's word' -- as shown herein.

here's what i mean:

       psalms 89:20 i have found david my servant;
with my holy oil have i anointed him:
psalms 2:7 i will _d_e_c_l_a_r_e_ the decree:
the lord hath said unto me,
thou art my son;
this day have i begotten thee.

       psalms 22:1.     a psalm of david. my god, my god,
i.     why hast thou _f_o_r_s_a_k_e_n_ me?
ii.     [why art thou] far from my _s_a_l_v_a_t_i_o_n,_
iii.     from the words of my groaning? [prayer--pleading, navali?]

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now, did the same god of david, EVER and i mean EVER, declare the above re: jesus christ as well??

rest assured, i have yet to find such a direct declaration in either god's own words and/or jesus's personal proclamation re: the same.

at best, he was declared as -- the 'BELOVED SON' of god, which is a far cry from what was divinely declare regarding david.

at the same time it must be noted that david was neither hanged nor crucified -- like jesus. the foundation of the events on the cross, as mentioned in the new testament was based on the above in part only. see below.

regardless, the salvation of the christ was as important, if not more than the salvation of his followers and the rest of the world. and as such, this salvific figure had to be saved first before he could save anyone else, as is obvious from the psalms quoted above and the following:

            Habakkuk 3:13 You went forth for the salvation of Your people, For the salvation of ' Your _a_n_o_i_n_t_e_d.'

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but what happened to jesus on the other hand? let the new testament speak for itself.

            Acts 2:27 Because thou wilt not leave my soul in hell, neither wilt thou suffer thine Holy One to see corruption. Acts 2:31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.

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believe me, i have seen a few weird interpretations of the text just cited. despite that, it is clear that jesus descended to hell instead of the paradise, he promised to one of the malefactors who was crucified with him at the time.

jesus was FORSAKEN by god, the father and all his desperate prayers went unanswered.

         Matthew 27:46 And about the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eli, Eli, lama sabachthani? that is to say, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?     Mark 15:34 And at the ninth hour Jesus cried with a loud voice, saying, Eloi, Eloi, lama sabachthani? which is, being interpreted, My God, my God, why hast thou forsaken me?

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god's word versus man's word

jesus was crucified in an 'unholy place' --- that he might Sanctify(?)

            Hebrews 13:11 For the bodies of those beasts, whose blood is brought into the sanctuary by the high priest for sin, are burned WITHOUT THE CAMP.
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Hebrews 13:12 WHEREFORE JESUS ALSO, that he might Sanctify(?), navali) the people with his own blood, SUFFERED WITHOUT THE GATE. Hebrews 13:13 LET US GO FORTH THEREFORE UNTO HIM WITHOUT THE CAMP, bearing his reproach.

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this christian scripture asserts plainly that was killed in an unholy place. now, what does it really mean? let the christian scripture speak for itself in this regards as well.

according to _m_y_ _g_o_s_p_e_l

            Timothy II 2:8 Remember that Jesus Christ of the seed of David was raised from the dead according to _m_y_ _g_o_s_p_e_l:_
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paul's writings are said to be the earliest christian writings on record. but more importantly, not only did he hand down the traditions which he had received from those before him but also he had corrupted and paganized those teachings and presented them -- 'according to __m_y__g_o_s_p_e_l'

and in spite of what paul would have us believe, let's see what the old testament had to say in this regard as well:

IMPORTANT COMPARISON

UNHOLY - UNCLEAN PLACE


        Deuteronomy 23:10 If there be among you any man, that is NOT CLEAN by reason of UNCLEANNESS that chanceth him by NIGHT, then shall he go abroad OUT OF THE CAMP, he shall not come WITHIN THE CAMP: Deuteronomy 23:11 But it shall be, when EVENING cometh on, he shall WASH himself with water: and when the SUN IS DOWN, he shall come INTO THE CAMP again. Deuteronomy 23:12 Thou shalt have a place also WITHOUT THE CAMP, whither thou shalt go forth abroad:

- VERSUS --

GOD'S CLEAR WARNING
HOLY -- CLEANLINESS


         Deuteronomy 23:14
   FOR THE LORD THY GOD _W_A_L_K_E_T_H_
   IN THE _M_I_D_S_T_ OF THY _C_A_M_P,_
   to deliver thee, .. THEREFORE SHALL THY CAMP BE _H_O_L_Y:
   _ THAT _H_E_ _S_E_E_ NO UNCLEAN THING IN THEE,
   and TURN AWAY from thee.
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could this then, explain why jesus was forsaken by his god?

we must also note that all 4 gospels have asserted plainly that jesus was cruci_fied in calvary or golgotha, i.e., a place of skull.

where was that place of skull? was it the one indicated at:

          rev 11:8
          heb 13:12,13
   deut 23:10-12?
          was it within jerusalem?
          just outside the city limits?
          was he cruci_fied
          hanged on the tree??
          [galatians 3:3,15]

well, let's see what a world renowned biblical scholar and visitor to "that place" had to say in this regard. she asserts:

qumran


          the book of revelation speaks of "the great city which is spiritually called sodom and egypt, where the lord was crucified.'  qumran was near the ancient site of sodom ......   qumran  could also be called "egypt" when the therapeutae met there, as has been seen.   [jesus & the riddle of the dead sea scrolls, by barbara thiering, 1992, pp. 105].
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where is qumran -- without the camp?

               the last supper

all gospels say that the crucifixion and the events preceding it took place in "jerusalem", using the plural form of the word.

as has been seen, the distances of places
given in the gospels, measured in stadia,
fit exactly the outposts of qumran,
but remain vague when related to jerusalem [ibid.].

             the crucifixion

a new testament verse says jesus suffered "outside the gate" and
"outside the camp". ... the phrase "outside the camp" also had a further sense to those who knew their old testament: deuteronomy 23:12 shows that it designated the latrine area --- [ibid. pp. 113].

the above is also verified by another source, like so:

     the site of the crucifixion jesus was crucified "outside the city" (john 19:17,20; hebrews 13:12). at a place called "the skull" (matthew 27:33; mark 15:22; luke 23:33 john 19:17) (h. h. halley,'s 'holy bible handbook,' under, 'mark,' pp. 481).

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so, here's a clear distinction -- a scriptural distinction at that -- between truth and falsehood. clearly between -- god's word and a man's personal opinion, which, for the most part -- had also been taken as 'the word of god' by a majority of the christians.

moreover, could this be the reason or explain why jesus, the 'only begotten son,' was 'FORSAKEN' by his own god, the father? please stop here and review the following.

accept the old testament at its face value and then use your own god-given intelligence.

     Deuteronomy 23:14
   FOR THE LORD THY GOD _W_A_L_K_E_T_H_
   IN THE _M_I_D_S_T_ OF THY _C_A_M_P,_ THEREFORE SHALL THY CAMP BE _H_O_L_Y: _ THAT _H_E_ _S_E_E_ NO UNCLEAN THING IN THEE, and TURN AWAY from thee.

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so, according to the old testament per se, jesus was cruci_fied in an unholy place, which the lord god himself had separated from -- THE CLEAN AND HOLY. the lord god's warnings were as clear as can be.

after all is said and done, jesus gave up his ghost IN AN UNHOLY PLACE, after being 'forsaken' by his god. this was diametrically opposite of what happened to david at psalms 22:1. the grandsire lamented for 'salvation' whereas his descendant and saviour--messiah -- was forsaken by god himself. he died in agony, misery and forlorn of all hope.

but more importantly, this in and of itself was a major blow to the concept of 'purity and messiahship' of jesus.

this is only one side of this heartbreaking story. the other, is just as intriguing.

it must be understood that it was just as important for jesus to be a SAVED-SAVIOR himself, in accordance with the text just cited. that is, although he was born a 'christ-messiah- anointed,' he was still _b_a_p_t_i_z_e_d_ by john the baptist, who himself was not too eager to do it:

              Mark 1:4 John did baptize in the wilderness, and preach the baptism of repentance for the remission of sins.

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as if that was not enough, jesus went on to sanctify himself, as shown earlier.

however, the holy qur'an says that allah purified both jesus and his mother. this was in addition to his pre-birth anointment [al-masih--the christ], which allah had conferred upon him. see HQ: 3.42,45,55.

therefore, it is important to note that everything else including the purpose and need for intercession and/or salvation, MATTERS NOT because it becomes secondary in its absence.

             Habakkuk 3:13 You went forth for the salvation of Your people, For the salvation of ' Your _a_n_o_i_n_t_e_d.'

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now see what the servants of the lord had to say in this regard as well:

            Psalms 89:20 I have found David My servant; With My holy oil I have anointed him,   Psalms 86:2 Preserve my soul; for I am holy: O thou my God, save thy servant that trusteth in thee.

              Isaiah 61:1 The spirit of the Lord GOD is upon me; because the LORD hath anointed me to preach good tidings.

      Luke 4:18 The Spirit of the Lord is upon me, because he hath anointed me to preach the gospel.      Acts 4:27 For truly in this city there were gathered together against Your holy servant Jesus, whom You anointed,

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that said, please review the following in light of the above issue viz., 'purity' in all its forms:

the servant of sin

'adulterated' genealogy

        8:33 They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free? John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

        Romans 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin,

        Romans 6:20 For when ye were the servants of sin,

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WHAT DID JESUS AND PAUL MEAN?

if we accept jesus' verdict then what did it mean with regards to the actual "SINS" committed by the very children of isaac and israel, the beneficiaries of the 'DIVINE PROMISE'?

simply put, the divine promise availed them not. it was nullified even before it was fully implemented by god.

PROOF

JACOB THE DECEIVER --- THE OLD TESTAMENT

        Genesis 27:11 And Jacob said to Rebekah his mother, Behold, Esau my brother is a hairy man, and I am a smooth man: Genesis 27:12 My father peradventure will feel me, and I shall seem to him as a deceiver; and I shall bring a curse upon me, and not a blessing. Genesis 27:15 And Rebekah took goodly raiment of her eldest son Esau, which were with her in the house, and put them upon Jacob her younger son:

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the servant of sin

        Genesis 27:36 And he said, Is not he rightly named Jacob [deceiver]? for he hath supplanted me [esau] these two times: he took away my birthright; and, behold, now he hath taken away my blessing. And he said, Hast thou not reserved a blessing for me?

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so, according to the old testament per se., -- this then, was the very foundation of deception upon deception, incestuous and adulterous affairs -- upon which the said 'promise' was fulfilled. even so, most people are proud of it, no matter what their consequences later in life -- as in hereafter.

PRIME HARVEST OF love, hate & 'SIN'  -- foundation of THE NEW TESTAMENT

         Genesis 38:2 And Judah saw there a daughter of a certain Canaanite, whose name was Shuah; and he took her, and went in unto her.        Genesis 37:18 And when they [JUDAH AND HIS BRETHREN] saw him afar off, even before he came near unto them, they conspired against him [JOSEPH] to slay him.

        Matthew 1:1 The book of the generation of Jesus Christ, the son of David, the son of Abraham Matthew 1:3 And Judas begat Phares and Zara of Thamar [incest- his daughter in law]; Matthew 1:5 And Salmon begat Booz of Rachel [prostitute?]; and Booz begat Obed of Ruth [handmaid -adultery]; and Obed begat Jesse;       Matthew 1:6 And Jesse begat David the king; and David the king begat Solomon [adultery & idolatry] of her that had been the wife of Urias [adultery]; Matthew 1:12 And after they were brought to Babylon, Jechonias [divine curse- seed cut off] begat Salathiel; and Salathiel begat Zorobabel;       Matthew 1:16 And Jacob begat Joseph the husband of Mary, of whom was born Jesus, who is called Christ.

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       Since Jesus was not the son of Joseph, and since Jesus himself appears to deny his Davidic ancestry (Matthew 22:41-46), the whole genealogy is pointless. Instead of rooting Jesus in history, it provides critics with an open window on the myth-making process. The Gospel writers wanted to make of their hero nothing less than what was claimed of saviors of other religions: a king born of a virgin.

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          so what was/is the real meaning of the said 'divine promise' in relation to the 'PROMISED SON' -- when it HAD FAILED so miserably from the get go -- with jacob--israel, judah and his brothers, david and solomon, etc?

          how do we reconcile with this form of WANTING, denigration and impurity -- found in the JEWISH/CHRISTIAN scripture itself?

ALLOW ME TO QUOTE THE BIBLE AGAIN:

        john 8:33   They answered him, We be Abraham's seed, and were never in bondage to any man: how sayest thou, Ye shall be made free?

John 8:34 Jesus answered them, Verily, verily, I say unto you, Whosoever committeth sin is the servant of sin.

        Romans 6:17 But God be thanked, that ye were the servants of sin, Romans 6:20 For when ye were the servants of sin,

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let it be known too, that although jesus was baptized(?) by john the baptist in the river of jordan, he himself had baptized no one during his lifetime and mission on earth. see John 4:1,2.

the point being, although he was baptized -- despite his pre-birth anointment -- jesus himself did not practice it.

what did he preach instead?

      AFTER THIS MANNER THEREFORE PRAY YE

        Matthew 6:9 AFTER THIS MANNER THEREFORE PRAY YE: Our Father which art in heaven, Hallowed be thy name. Matthew 6:12 And FORGIVE us our debts, as we FORGIVE our debtors. Matthew 6:14 For if ye FORGIVE men their trespasses, your heavenly Father will also FORGIVE you: Matthew 6:15 But if ye FORGIVE not men their trespasses, neither will your Father FORGIVE your trespasses.

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it was all about forgiveness and not about baptism. this is precisely what jesus taught his followers during his own lifetime and mission on earth.

on the other hand, what did jesus really preach about baptism, if anything at all?

    the so-called 'divine _t_r_i_n_i_t_y'_ had been clearly challenged & also shattered to pieces not only by the holy qur'an but also by the apostles & gospellers themselves

       Mark 12:29 and Jesus answered him -- `The first of all the commands [is], Hear, O Israel, the Lord is our God, the Lord is one; Mark 12:30 and thou shalt love the Lord thy God out of all thy heart, and out of thy soul, and out of all thine understanding, and out of all thy strength -- this [is]   the first command;

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if one follows only this prescription then there can be no place for jesus or the so-called divine trinity in christianity, regardless.

a jewish christian misrepresention:

             The Falsity of Islam
and the Moslem Koran

"Aren't Jehovah of the Bible and Allah of the Koran the same God?"
DON'T BE MISLED: The Koran gives the impression that Jehovah of the Bible and Allah of the Koran are one and the same, that "Allah" is simply another name for "Jehovah". Moslems sometimes point out -- truthfully -- that Christian translations of the Bible into Arabic refer to the God of the Bible as "Allah"

Islam and the Koran deny the crucifixion of Jesus.
The New Testament clearly and repeatedly says (in the words of the Apostles' Creed) that Jesus Christ was crucified, dead, and buried. The third day He arose from the dead . (Also see all four Gospels.)

Koran Sura (Chapter) 4 verse 157 "But they killed him [Christ] not nor crucified him, but so it was made to appear to them. They killed him not. Nay, God raised him up unto himself."
The Koran expressly says that Christ was neither crucified nor killed by some other means. God raised him directly up into Heaven, (as He did with Elijah). The Koran claims that God participated in a fraud or delusion on the witnesses.
Islam and the Koran deny the deity of Jesus.

Koran Sura 5 verse 78 "Christ, the Son of Mary, was no more than an apostle."
Koran Sura 5 verse 75 "They do blaspheme who say God is Christ, the Son of Mary."

Islam and the Koran deny the Triune nature of God.

Koran Sura 5:72-73 [72] Certainly they disbelieve who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the Garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help. [73] They disbelieved who say: Allah is one of three (in a Trinity): for there is no god except One God. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous chastisement will befall the disbelievers among them.

Simply put, the Moslem Koran directly contradicts the Bible on some
fundamental teachings. They can't both be true.

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it is clear that not only did this jewish christian totally misunderstand the holy qur'an per se, but also he failed to comprehend HIS OWN BIBLE. please compare the above write-up with -- 'Was he Solomon, Jesus or Muhammad ? Muhammad's name appeared in Haggai 2:7' -- given below and then you be the judge.

however, in refutation of the same, i will quote only the bible and some pre-islmaic sources here to prove the truth and reality of islam, which the pious christians have either ignored and/or totally misrepresented for obvious reasons.

please note again: among other things, al-aliyyun -- THE MOST HIGH god of abraham, moses, aaron, david, jesus and muhammad [pbuth]; chose islam and imamat--priesthood for mankind in general and the 3 main abrahamaic faiths & nations in particular.

post-resurrection
innovation & violation
of the 'baptism trinity'

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baptism, the early church -- today's vatican and the pauline christianity at crossroads

for all intents and purposes, an objective and intelligent study of the new testament will show that -- the post-resurrection INNOVATION, teachings and the baptismal practice -- was in fact, the initial foundation of the 'divine trinity' in all its forms in christianity per se.

but then, it had its own flaws as well, and thus, the said trinity met with an untimely demise shortly thereafter!

please allow me to explain.

pious interpolation

           John I 5:7 For there are three that bear record in heaven,
the Father,
the Word,
and the Holy Ghost:
and these three are one.

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             We have already read the words of Mr. Tom Harpur in the preface to his book: "The most significant development since 1986 in this regard has been the discovery of the title "Son of God" in one of the Qumran papyri (Dead Sea Scrolls) used in relation to a person other than Jesus.....this simply reinforces the argument made there that to be called the Son of God in a Jewish setting in the first century is not by any means the same as being identical with God Himself." For Christ's Sake, pp. xii. So why don't we study these scrolls in a little more detail and see what else we can learn ?

         first of, the word Trinity is not in the Bible.

[see 'for christ's sake,' by tom harpur 1986 --isbn 0-19-5405333-1 -- under, 'the problem' -- 'the crisis facing the christian church,' pp. 6-8].

        1 John 5:7 is not contained in the earliest greek manuscript.

              1.2.2.5 1 John 5:7
The only verses in the whole Bible that explicitly ties God, Jesus, and the Holy Spirit in one "Triune" being is the verse of 1 John 5:7
"For there are three that bear record in heaven, the Father, the Word, and the Holy Ghost: and these three are one."
This is the type of clear, decisive, and to-the-point verse I have been asking for. However, as I would later find out, this verse is now universally recognized as being a later "insertion" of the Church and all recent versions of the Bible, such as the Revised Standard Version the New Revised Standard Version, the New American Standard Bible, the New English Bible, the Phillips Modern English Bible ...etc. have all unceremoniously expunged this verse from their pages. Why is this?
The scripture translator Benjamin Wilson gives the following explanation for this action in his "Emphatic Diaglott." Mr. Wilson says:
"This text concerning the heavenly witness is not contained in any Greek manuscript which was written earlier than the fifteenth century. It is not cited by any of the ecclesiastical writers; not by any of early Latin fathers even when the subjects upon which they treated would naturally have lead them to appeal to it's authority. It is therefore evidently spurious."
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         Only two modern Greek manuscripts and one or two ancient versions of little value contain the spurious words. It is not found in the Syriac, Arabic, Ethiopic, Coptic, Sahidic, Armenian, Slavonian, etc. Additionally, no Greek father even quotes 1 Jn.5:7 in any discussion concerning the Trinity doctrine. It is clearly a questionable addition to the New Testament and should not be in our Bibles.
Conclusion
The Holy Spirit, as we have seen, is not a third person of a "Trinity." It is not a person at all.

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         Pop and new age beliefs 'have KILLED Christianity'

Special report: religion in the UK

Gary Finn
Thursday September 6, 2001
The Guardian

Shopping, pop music and the growth of new age beliefs have virtually killed off Christianity in Britain, the leader of the Catholic church in England and Wales, Cardinal Cormac Murphy-O'Connor, told priests yesterday.

In the most candid analysis of the state of organised Christianity in Britain, the cardinal painted a picture where Christianity had for most Britons been "almost been vanquished" by the pressures of modern living.
His comments on the irrelevance to many Britons of the Christian message echoes those of the Archbishop of Canterbury, Dr George Carey, who last year said: "A tacit atheism prevails.
Yesterday, the cardinal told the 100 assembled priests: "It does seem in our countries in Britain today, especially in England and Wales, that Christianity, as a sort of backdrop to people's lives and moral decisions - and to the government, the social life of the country - has now almost been vanquished."

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   an untimely demise

JESUS _B_A_P_T_I_Z_E_D_ _N_O_T_

      John 4:2 (Though Jesus himself _b_a_p_t_i_z_e_d_ _n_o_t,_ but his disciples,)

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according to the above, jesus himself did not baptized anyone.

this is very significant and noteworthy because the whole concept of 'forgiveness' and/or 'remission of sins' and 'salvation' -- depends on baptism itself.

in order to understand the above it is very important to comprehend the following.

WHY DID JESUS INSIST ON

'I will have mercy, and n_o_t sacrifice'??

   Hosea 6:6 For I desired mercy, and n_o_t sacrifice; and the knowledge of God more than burnt offerings. hosea 10:12 Sow to yourselves in righteousness, reap in mercy; Hosea 12:6 Therefore turn thou to thy God: keep mercy and judgment, and wait on thy God continually.

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JESUS CONCURRS:

   Matthew 3:2 And saying, Repent ye: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.    Matthew 4:17 From that time Jesus began to preach, and to say, Repent: for the kingdom of heaven is at hand.    Matthew 9:13 But go ye and learn what that meaneth, I will have mercy, and n_o_t sacrifice: for I am not come to call the righteous, but sinners to repentance.  Matthew 12:7 But if ye had known what this meaneth, I will have mercy, and not sacrifice,

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please note that jesus began his mission simply by preaching about repentance and the kingdom of god. that is, he called the sinners only to REPENTANCE and thereby, attain the kingdom of god.

and more importantly, the lord god said, "I will have mercy, and n_o_t sacrifice". and jesus concurred. he asked the disbelievers the meaning thereof.

      despite this commandment, if jesus said that god sent him in order to be sacrificed for the world, then something is terribly wrong somewhere;

     it would mean that jesus went against the commandment of god the father.

      hence, the cruci_FICTion, death and resurrection of jesus had no place in god's divine plan for salvation at all.

HE DID NOT PREACH OR PRACTICE BAPTISM.

HE DID NOT BAPTIZE THEM.

as if that was not enough, after his worldly mission and life -- jesus' own handpicked disciples preached why jesus was sent.

they followed in his footsteps to a degree.

       *should be _p_r_e_a_c_h_e_d*

               Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be _p_r_e_a_c_h_e_d*_ [BUT NOT PRACTICED, navali]; in _h_i_s_ _n_a_m_e*_ [ONLY?, navali] among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

        Acts 5:31 Him hath God exalted with his right hand to be a Prince and a Saviour, for to give repentance to Israel, and forgiveness of sins. Acts 8:22 Repent therefore of this thy wickedness, and pray God, if perhaps the thought of thine heart may be forgiven thee.

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on the other hand, paul was very forthright about it too.

                Acts 20:21 Testifying both to the Jews, and also to the Greeks, repentance toward God, and faith toward our Lord Jesus Christ.

                Corinthians I 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel:

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hence, if jesus christ himself did not baptize any of his followers then how could they be SAVED? he preached repentance instead.

under the same token, how could jesus be the 'messiah' -- as in savior of the world -- when he did not save the masses, including his handpicked disciples and apostles during his own lifetime?

these intriguing facts show without a shadow of the doubt that the -- 'baptism trinity' -- was invented long after jesus' life and mission on earth. it had nothing to do with his original teachings.

if my assertion is true then it means that

                    there was no trinity to begin with;
                    and as such, jesus was NOT DIVINE, as in the son of god
                    or a god from god, etc.
                    neither was the holy ghost.
                    these mind-boggling innovations and adulterations crept into
                    the 'pauline christianity' several centuries later.

and more importantly, this post-resurrection innovation did not survive its own inventors vis-à-vis the gospels writers and the early church. allow me to explain this further, if i may.

please follow the trend of my thought hereafter.

     when did the holy ghost ENTER christianity and also become a 3rd of the 'divine' or blessed trinity'??

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did jesus prescribe this? if he did then why did he violate it himself?

          Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, _b_a_p_t_i_z_i_n_g_ them in the name
i.     of the Father*,
ii.     and of the Son*,
iii.     and of the _H_o_l_y_ _G_h_o_s_t_*

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[NOTE 1*: creation of a new -- 'baptism trinity.'

apparently, this 'new trinity' was BROKEN and VIOLATED by the apostles and gospellers mark, luke, john, paul and by the rock of the church, peter himself. in other words, this 'holy trinity', did not outlive its innovators, navali].

     1      "For Christ's sake," Tom Harpur , p. 103

This is confirmed in 'Peake's Commentary on the Bible' published since 1919, which is universally acclaimed and considered to be the standard reference for students of the Bible. It says:

"This mission is described in the language of the church and most commentators doubt that the Trinitarian formula was original at this point in Mt.'s Gospel, since the NT elsewhere does not know of such a formula and describes baptism as being performed in the name of the Lord Jesus (e.g. Ac. 2:38, 8:16, etc.)."

For example, these Christian scholars observed that after Jesus allegedly issued this command and then was taken up into heaven, the apostles displayed a complete lack of knowledge of this command.
"And Peter said to them, 'Repent, and let each of you be baptized in the name of Jesus Christ for the forgiveness of your sins;...'"

Acts 2:38.
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NO SALVATION FOR THE FAITHLESS BAPTIZED

THE 'BAPTISM TRINITY' VIOLATED

did jesus prescribe this too?

2     Mark 16:16 He that _b_e_l_i_e_v_e_t_h*_ and is _b_a_p_t_i_z_e_d*_ [IN WHOSE NAME?, navali]; shall be saved; but he that believeth not shall be damned.

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[NOTE 2*: so baptism without faith and belief will not save, regardless. MEANING IT WAS NOT NECESSARY. plus the 'baptism trinity' WAS BROKEN and VIOLATED by this gospeller, navali].

    ONLY BAPTISM
vis-à-vis repentance and remission of sins WAS PREACHED

    THE 'BAPTISM TRINITY' VIOLATED

jesus _D_E_S_T_R_O_Y_E_D_ the TRINITY himself

    3        Luke 24:44 And he [jesus] said unto them, These are the words which I [jesus] spake unto you .. Luke 24:46 And said unto them, Thus it is written, and thus it behoved Christ to suffer --- Luke 24:47 And that repentance and remission of sins should be _p_r_e_a_c_h_e_d*_ [BUT NOT PRACTICED, navali]; in _h_i_s_ _n_a_m_e*_ [ONLY?, navali] among all nations, beginning at Jerusalem.

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this was a two-fold violation of jesus' post-resurrection teachings. however, IN WHOSE 'NAME' was it supposed to be preached? all three or rather, two personalities here were of the masculine(?) gender.

       in the 'name' of the father?

       in the 'name' of the son?

       in the 'name' of the holy ghost(?)?

THE 'BAPTISM TRINITY' VIOLATED

that said, WHO was represented by the pronoun -- "his" ?

here's your multiple choice answer.

        John 3:17 For God sent not -- "his" -- Son into the world -- ?

        Matthew 1:25 and he called -- "his" -- name JESUS -- ?

      John 14:17 Even the Spirit of truth; whom the world cannot receive, because it seeth him [her/it, navali] not, neither knoweth him [her/it, navali]:

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WHAT HAPPENED TO THE OTHER 2/3RDS OF THIS BAPTISM TRINITY?

[NOTE 3* : the 'baptism trinity' WAS BROKEN and VIOLATED by this gospeller as well, navali]

in light of the above, we have to question ourselves again:

    when did the holy ghost ENTER christianity and also become a 3rd of the 'divine' or blessed trinity'??

his advent was conditional -- like so

      'It is expedient for you that I go away:
    for i_f I go not away, the Comforter -- paraclete
    holy ghost -- will not come unto you'
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     4          John 7:39 (But this spake he of the Spirit, which they that believe on him should receive: for the Holy Ghost was not yet given; because that Jesus was not yet glorified.) john 20:22 And when he had said this, he breathed on them, and saith unto them, *_R_e_c_e_i_v_e_ ye the _H_o_l_y_ _G_h_o_s_t_*:

          John 14:26 But the Comforter--paraclete, which is the Holy Ghost, whom the Father will send in my name, -- "he" -- shall teach you all things,

    John 16:7 Nevertheless I tell you the truth; It is expedient for you that I go away: for if I go not away, the Comforter-- holy ghost -- paraclete -- will not come unto you; but if I depart, I will send him unto you.

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there seems to be some kind of collaboration between Luke 24:47 & John 20:23 -- because neither practiced 'baptism' for the remission of sins. and that's not all.

[NOTE 4* : was this JOHANNINE holy ghost different from the one mentioned at Matthew 28:19? it would seem so. but then, why give them the holy ghost now, if he was already present before and the apostles were asked to baptize at matthew 28:19 -- in the name of the 'baptism trinity'?

this issue was confused further because -- according to these gospels -- baptism was not required for the remission of sins.

and more importantly, the apostles were authorized to either remit or retain sins of the faithful, regardless.

so, what was the need for baptism in the first place -- and also, why was it violated shortly thereafter?

REMITTANCE OF SINS WITHOUT BAPTISM

did jesus prescribe this too?

THE 'BAPTISM TRINITY' VIOLATED

      John 20:23 Whose soever sins ye remit, they are remitted unto them; and whose soever sins ye retain, they are retained.

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therefore, not only does this gospel prove that the 'baptism trinity' did not exist at all but also -- if it did then it WAS BROKEN and VIOLATED by this gospeller as well, navali]

    peter violates jesus' post-resurrection teachings

THE 'BAPTISM TRINITY' VIOLATED

5      Acts 2:38 Then Peter said unto them, Repent, and be baptized every one of you in the _n_a_m_e_ of Jesus Christ * [ONLY?, navali]; for the remission of sins, and ye shall _r_e_c_e_i_v_e *_{what?, navali} the _g_i_f_t *_ of the Holy Ghost*

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[NOTE 5 * : is this not the same simon peter, the most trusted apostle and the rock of the church chosen by jesus himself?]

look at his post-resurrection deal. according to him there was no 'baptism trinity' to begin with and, he proved it undoubtedly.

and more importantly, he also proved that jesus did not command to: 'baptize them in the name of the Father*, and of the Son*, and of the H_o_l_y_ _G_h_o_s_t*'

on the contrary, just like your credit card companies, the bay, eatons, walmart and other big chain stores in the usa and canada, peter was also offering a discounted deal -- buy one get one free, if you will.

in any case, both god and the holy ghost were left out to begin with -- and the latter was only added to entice the unsuspecting masses.

the order of confusion and innovations continued unrelentingly in christianity.

order reversed -- gift of the holy ghost was given B_E_F_O_R_E Baptism

THE 'BAPTISM TRINITY' VIOLATED

peter violates jesus' post-resurrection teachings AGAIN

6    Acts 10:44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost _f_e_l_l_ on all them which heard the word. Acts 10:45 ... with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost. Acts 10:46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter, Acts 10:47 Can any man forbid water, that these should not be baptized, which have _r_e_c_e_i_v_e_d_ the Holy Ghost as well as we? Acts 10:48 And he commanded them to be _b_a_p_t_i_z_e_d_ in the _n_a_m_e_ of the Lord. Then prayed they him to tarry certain days.

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if so, how come his teachings differed from those of his master's? simply put, the 'baptism trinity' WAS BROKEN and VIOLATED by this the most trusted apostle and rock of the church -- as well, navali].

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      Christ sent me not to baptize

     7       Corinthians I 1:14 I thank God that I baptized * _n_o_n_e_ of you*, but Crispus and Gaius; Corinthians I 1:15 Lest any should say that I had baptized *in mine* own name*. Corinthians I 1:17 For Christ sent me not to baptize, but to preach the gospel:

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[NOTE 7* : the contentious paul's statement not only speaks for itself but also he had contradicted himself elsewhere. regardless, the 'baptism trinity' WAS BROKEN and VIOLATED by this epistle writer as well, navali].

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THE 'BAPTISM TRINITY' VIOLATED

       what is the church's current stand on this violation and practice of baptism?

       whose teachings is it really following in this case and at this time?

       especially, when the apostles and the gospellers themselves had violated jesus' own teachings on this the most important issue -- pertaining to his christhood in all its forms -- as soon as he left the scene for good?

regardless, the main question still persists. and that is, did the apostles uphold jesus' teachings in this regard at all? or did they simply violate the same and afterwards, innovated practices of their own, as is evident from the scriptures just cited?

unholy-- swine's flesh and christianity

'provoketh me [god] to anger '

       Isaiah 65:2 I have spread out my hands all the day unto a rebellious people, which walketh in a way that was not good, after their own thoughts; Isaiah 65:3 A people that provoketh me to anger continually to my face; Isaiah 65:4 Which remain among the graves, and lodge in the monuments, which eat swine's flesh, and broth of abominable things is in their vessels;

       Isaiah 66:17 They that sanctify themselves, and purify themselves in the gardens behind one tree in the midst, eating swine's flesh, and the abomination, and the mouse, shall be consumed together, saith the LORD.

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what did jesus say about the swine?

        Matthew 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs , neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.

        Mark 5:12 And all the devils besought him, saying, Send us into the swine, that we may enter into them. Mark 5:13 And forthwith Jesus gave them leave. And the unclean spirits went out, and entered into the swine: and the herd ran violently down a steep place into the sea, (they were about two thousand;) and were choked in the sea. Mark 5:16 And they that saw it told them how it befell to him that was possessed with the devil, and also concerning the swine.

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and the old testament says

        Deuteronomy 14:8 And the swine, because it divideth the hoof, yet cheweth not the cud, it is unclean unto you: ye shall not eat of their flesh, nor touch their dead carcase.

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despite this clear-cut exhortation in the bible, a good portion of its followers have had chosen to follow their own lusts instead.

in view of these irrefutable facts and adulteration of faith, it was very, very important and significant for god's 'divine promise and eternal message,' to be continued and fulfilled in other hidden and mysterious ways through the house of ishmael, as we will insha'allaah see herein.

in short, had it not been for the ishmaelites -- the children of israel would not have been, regardless of god's promises to abram/ham, sarah and/or isaac and the said kings of israel.

    Ishmeelites -- the true saviors

        Genesis 37:25 And they sat down to eat bread: and they lifted up their eyes and looked, and, behold, a company of Ishmeelites came from Gilead with their camels bearing spicery and balm and myrrh, going to carry it down to Egypt. Genesis 37:28 Then there passed by Midianites merchantmen; and they drew and lifted up Joseph out of the pit, and sold Joseph to the Ishmeelites for twenty pieces of silver: and they brought Joseph into Egypt.    genesis 39:1 and joseph was brought down to egypt; and potiphar, an officer of pharaoh, captain of the guard, an egyptian, bought him of the hands of the ishmeelites, which had brought him down thither.

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undoubtedly, their name and checkered history thus far, would have ended with joseph's premeditated MURDER, had his jealous siblings succeeded in their ghastly mission. both the bible and the holy qur'an tell us that his brothers CONSPIRED to kill him.

a further review and study of the old and new testaments show that -- for all practical purposes, the israelite dispensation ended with the following biblical curses/prophesied transition too:

       THE PROPHESIED TRANSITION

        Genesis 49:8,10 :: King James Version (KJV)

Judah, your brothers shall praise you; Your hand shall be on the neck of your *enemies; Your father's sons shall bow down to you. The sceptre shall not d_e_p_a_r_t from Judah, nor a lawgiver from between his feet, _u_n_t_i_l_ Shiloh come; and unto him [Shiloh] shall the gathering of the people be.

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here's my interpretation of this verse based on further scriptural evidence only:

first of , despite jacob's powerful prediction re: the end times @ genesis 49:9,10 cited above and analyzed below, it is clear from the bible and its history that judah was neither a prophet nor priest and that none of the children of israel had ever bowed before him.

on the contrary, he and his brothers BOWED BEFORE JOSEPH, his saviour. refer to Genesis 42:6, Genesis 43:26 and Genesis 43:28.

     'CONDITIONAL REIGN & INEVITABLE TRANSITION' - JUDAH WILL REIGN ' UNTIL THE SHILOH COME'

           Here are several ancient rabbinical references that indicate that the rabbis believed that Genesis 49:10 was referring to the Messiah.

In the Targum Onkelos it states:
"The transmission of domain shall not cease from the house of Judah, nor the scribe from his children's children, forever, until Messiah comes."⁶
In the Targum Pseudo-Jonathan it states:
"King and rulers shall not cease from the house of Judah...until King Messiah comes"⁷
The Targum Yerushalmi states:
"Kings shall not cease from the house of Judah...until the time of the coming of the King Messiah...to whom all the dominions of the earth shall become subservient"⁷
In the Babylonian Talmud, Sanhedrin 98b, Rabbi Johanan said:
"The world was created for the sake of the Messiah, what is this Messiah's name? The school of Rabbi Shila said 'his name is Shiloh, for it is written; until Shiloh come.'"

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let us consider the above in light of the following, which speaks for itself.

THE BIBLICAL CHART

   ABRAM
I ---------------------------------------------I--------------------------------------------I
I                                              86 YRS                                    I
                                                                                                          ISHMAEL

                                                    ABRAM-  99 AT CIRCUMCISION         ISHM - 13 YRS    I

ISAAC                                ABRAM 100 YRS AT ISAAC'S BIRTH           ISHM - 14 YRS  I

And Jacob called unto his sons and      _                               THE LAST DAYS MESSIANIC
said, Gather yourselves together,                                                        PROPHECY_
that I may tell you that which
SHALL BEFALL YOU IN THE LAST DAYS.                                 a. Judah means PRAISE.
JUDAH thou art he whom THY BRETHREN                                           Ahmad means Praise.
shall PRAISE .... thy father's                                                       b. THY BRETHREN - Ishmaelites
children shall bow down before thee.                                      c. thy father's children -
The SCEPTRE shall not depart from                                                          Israelites.
Judah nor a lawgiver from between                                         d. UNTIL SHILOH COME -
is his feet __UNTIL SHILOH COME and                                        the expected MESSIAH
UNTO HIM shall the GATHERING OF THE                                           - Ahmad - Praised One
PEOPLE BE - Gen. 49:1,8,10                                                        e. SHILOH also means PEACE
                                                                                                             [Master Study Bible, pp. 1990,
    I                                                                                                                     2008,2177].
    I                                                                                                            [Islam means Peace]
I-------------------I                                                                 [    HQ 61:6 Ahmad: the Praised]
Judah      Levi                                                                                [One fulfilled the prophecy]
I                  I
I                  I                                                                                                           I

I           Amran
I                 I                                                                                                  I
I          Aaron--Moses-Miriam
I          PRIEST--Prophet-sister
I          83yrs--80yrs-                                                                                    I
I                  I
David         I
I                  I                                                                                                  I
Solomon    I
                   I

                   I                                                                                                 I
        Elizabeth--Mary
            I                 I
            I                 I                                                                                       I
         John       Jesus

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it must be remembered that the genesis 49:10 prophecy was NOT FULFILLED IN JESUS during his BRIEF MISSION AND lifetime.

[         luke 1:5,34-36 -- JESUS was from the house of aaron the priest --    after his worldly mission and life on earth, he was said to be a high priest after the order of melchisedek, a priesthood that was not conferred on the house of judah ever, according to paul. more importantly, according to the gospels, in the end jesus was FORSAKEN by his god, the father and all his disciples.]



                             I                                                                         Muhammad

                             I                                                                   Fatima               ALI

                             I                                                                    Hassan        HUSSEIN

                             I                                                                           I                    I

                             I                                                                            I          AGA KHAN IV


His Highness, the Aga Khan, is the 49th direct descendant of Mohammad, through Ali, his cousin who married Fatima, the Prophet's daughter.

The leader is the 49th descendant of Mohammad, one of the principal spiritual leaders of Muslim Shi'ites:

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   END OF JUDAH'S REIGN

     unfulfilled & failed prophecies

          Luke 1:30 And the angel said unto her, Fear not, Mary: for thou hast found favour with God. Luke 1:31 And, behold, thou shalt conceive in thy womb, and bring forth a son, and shalt call his name JESUS. Luke 1:32 He shall be great, and shall be called the Son of the Highest: and the Lord God shall give unto him the throne of his father David:

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unfortunately, jesus did not live long enough to realize fulfillment of this divine prophecy during his lifetime. on the contrary, he died like a suffering, betrayed and forsaken messiah and servant of god, which he was -- acts Acts 3:13,26; Acts 4:27,30

post-resurrection

this was the first question put to jesus by his own apostles.

     Acts 1:6 When they therefore were come together, they [apostles] asked of him [jesus], saying, Lord, wilt thou at this time restore again the kingdom to Israel? Acts 1:7 And he said unto them, It is not for you to know the times or the seasons, which the Father hath put in his own power.

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thus with jesus faded or ended all the hopes and reign of judah.

and to fabricate, hypothesize, conjecture and/or say otherwise, is to only betray one's conscious and belie the bible as a whole.

ADDITIONAL BIBLICAL EVIDENCE



         Muhammad by name: Song of Solomon 5:16

فمه عذب ، وكله مشتهيات ، هذا هو حبيبي ، وهذا هو خليلي يا بنات أورشليم

His mouth is most sweet: yea, he is altogether lovely. This is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem.

The phrase "he is altogether lovely" reads in the Hebrew, as "he is Mahamaddim."
The Hebrew word Mahamaddim. The ending letters ‘im’ is a plural of respect and majesty just as in Elohim (the God). Without ‘im’ the name becomes Muhammad, which was translated as "altogether lovely" in the Authorised Version of the Bible or 'The Praised One', 'the one worthy of Praise.' In Arabic, Muhammad means the one who is most praised.

Ahmad by name: Haggai 2:7-9

ولسوف أزلزل كل الأمم ، وسوف يأتي حمدا لكل الأمم وسوف أملأ هذا البيت بالمجد ، كذلك قال رب الجنود ، وإن مجد ذلك البيت الأخير يكون أعظم من مجد الأول ، هكذا يقول رب الجنود ، وفي هذا المكان سوف أعطي السلام ، هكذا يقول رب الجنود

And I will shake all nations, and the Himada of all the nations will come; and I will fill this house with glory, says the Lord of hosts. The glory of last house shall be greater than that of the first one, says the Lord of hosts; and in this place I will give Shalom (Islaam), says the Lord of Hosts.

The Hebrew words Mahmad, Mahamod, Himdah, and Hemed appearing in the Old Testament and the Arabic words Muhammad and Ahmad are all derived from the same root "H, M and D," and refer to the same general meaning.

In the Quraan 61:6

وإذ قال عيسى ابن مريم يبني إسرائيل إني رسول الله إليكم مصدقا لما بين يدي من التوراة ومبشرا برسول يأتي من بعدي اسمه أحمد

And remember Jesus the son of Mary said: "O Children of Israel! I am the apostle of Allaah (sent) to you confirming the Law (which came) before me and giving glad Tidings of an Apostle to come after me whose name shall be Ahmad." (61:6)

Muhammad for all the NATIONS:

According to Bible HIMADA or AHMAD or MUHAMMAD is for all the Nations, according to glorious Quraan:

Sura Al-Furqan 25:1

تبارك الذي نزل الفرقان على عبده ليكون للعالمين نذيرا

Blessed is He Who has revealed unto His slave the Furqan (of right and wrong), that he may be a Warner to all the Nations, all creatures.

MUHUMMED (PBUH) MENTIONED BY NAME IN THE BIBLE: (b) "his mouth is most sweet: yea, he is (Muhummed-im) altogether lovely, this is my beloved, and this is my friend, O daughters of Jerusalem. SONG OF SOLOMON 5:16 From the original Hebrew manuscript the word "MUHUMMEDIM", is translated as "altogether lovely' which is actually the word MUHUMMED with "im" added. "IM" is the plural of respect in the Hebrew language.

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           Was he Solomon, Jesus or Muhammad ?

Muhammad's name appeared in Haggai 2:7 under the hebrew word mahmad () which means praised one (Muhammad is Arabic for praised one). It almost undoubtedly is referring to the Arabic Prophet Muhammad.
First of all, the way this word is written is Hebrew is . That happens to be the EXACT same was Muhammad's name is written in Hebrew. Let's look at the spelling of this word...

It has four characters. Going from right to left they are...

According to Ben Yehuda's Hebrew-English Dictionary, is correctly pronounced "mahamad" (not mahmad) which is very close to Muhammad.

Ben Yehuda's Hebrew-English Dictionary defines "" as "lovely, coveted one, precious one, praised one". The correct way to say "praised one" in Arabic is Muhammad, so this is the same word!
As was stated before, the name Muhammad () and the word mahmad () are spelled exactly the same way in Hebrew, and both have the same meaning. The only reason they are pronounced different is because of vowels (dots and lines) introduced in the eigth century.
The Hebrew word for praised one is

The Hebrew word for Muhammad (the Arabic Prophet) is

In conclusion, if Songs of Solomon chapter 5 is discussing a man to come after that time, it is without a doubt Muhammad, as it even mentions his name.
           Biography, mission and the message of Muhammad - the Prophet of Islam -- Prophet Muhammad Is The "Shiloh"

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this needs not further elaboration. it speaks for itself.

   UNEQUIVOCAL TRANSITION

A NEW SONG -- KEDAR & THE LORD GOD'S ADVENT

  Isaiah 42:9 Behold, the former things have come to pass, and NEW THINGS I now declare; before they spring forth I tell you of them." Isaiah 42:10 SING TO THE LORD A NEW SONG, HIS _P_R_A_I_S_E_ [pesher-- interpretation--Judah--Muhammad- Ahmad] from the end of the earth! Let the sea roar and all that fills it, the coastlands and their inhabitants.

      Isaiah 42:11 Let the _D_E_S_E_R_T_ and its cities LIFT UP THEIR VOICES, the villages that _K_E_D_A_R_ [Descendants of ISHMAEL], inhabits; let the inhabitants of Sela SING for joy, let them SHOUT FROM THE TOP OF THE MOUNTAINS. Isaiah 42:12 Let them give glory to the LORD, and declare his _P_R_A_I_S_E_ [pesher-- interpretation-- Judah-- Muhammad-Ahmad] in the coastlands.

Isaiah 42:13 THE LORD SHALL GO FORTH AS A MIGHTY MAN, he shall stir up jealousy LIKE A MAN OF WAR: he shall cry, YEA, _R_O_A_R;_ he shall prevail against his enemies.



rest assured, this was the most fitting description of hzt. imam mowlana ali (as) [the LION of Allah] in the bible. and more importantly, the holy qur'an and the islamic history had also depicted him in a similar context, which i have shown often in my writings previously.

i submit that the psalmic prophecy by david and, jesus' own interpretation thereof also lends more direct and powerful credence to what has been asserted thus far from the bible per se.

   'CURSE'

the head stone of the corner

most people do not understand the real significance of the following prophecy, which in all likelihood predicts an end of the israelite dispensation on the one hand -- and an absolute transfer of the same to the ishmaelite nation, on the other.

here's what i mean:

            Genesis 3:15 And I will put enmity
Between you
and the woman,
And between your seed
and her seed;
He shall bruise you on the head,
And you shall bruise him on the heel.

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   ISHMAEL --
i will make HIM FRUITFUL
and I will make him a GREAT NATION

        Genesis 15:1 After these things the word of the LORD came unto Abram in a vision, saying, Fear not, Abram: I am thy shield, and thy exceeding great reward.

        Genesis 16:10 And the angel of the LORD said unto her [hagar], I will multiply thy [hagar] seed exceedingly, that it shall not be numbered for multitude.

        Genesis 21:13 And also of the son of the bondwoman will I make a nation, because he is thy [ABRAHAM] seed.   Genesis 17:20 And as for Ishmael, I have heard thee [ABRHAM]: Behold, I have BLESSED HIM, and will make HIM FRUITFUL,
and will multiply him exceedingly;
twelve princes shall he beget,
and I will make him a GREAT NATION.

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the biblical record and history tell us that the actual rivalry between ishmael [her seed] and isaac [his seed] began as soon as sarah become pregnant with the latter. this rivalry had taken place during abraham's lifetime and continued ever after -- in fact, right up to this very moment in the middle east and other parts of the world.

despite this rivalry and the conscious effort by the authors and editors of the bible to remove any and all significant data re: ishmael from the bible -- rest assured, ONLY ISHMAEL -- is the most pivotal figure in the bible around whom revolved the very existence of the israelite nation, its kings, prophets and the holy priests.

in other words, despite outright rejection of and prejudice against him, he went on to 'become the head stone of the corner.'

like i said before, jesus' own interpretation of the aforesaid lends more direct and powerful credence to my assertion.

        DAVID: -- Psalms 118:22 The stone which the builders refused is become the head stone of the corner. Psalms 118:23 This is the LORD'S doing; it is marvellous in our eyes.

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      "DIVINE CURSES"

"Write ye this man childless -- He shall have none to sit upon the throne of David" --

     Jeremiah 22:18 Therefore thus saith the LORD concerning Jehoiakim the son of Josiah king of Judah; They shall not lament for him, jeremiah 22:28 Is this man Coniah a despised broken idol? is he a vessel wherein is no pleasure? wherefore are they cast out, he and his seed, and are cast into a land which they know not? Jeremiah 22:19 He shall be buried with the burial of an ass, drawn and cast forth beyond the gates of Jerusalem.

     Jeremiah 22:24 As I live, saith the LORD, though Coniah the son of Jehoiakim king of Judah were the signet upon my right hand, yet would I pluck thee thence; Jeremiah 22:30 Thus saith the LORD, Write ye this man childless, a man that shall not prosper in his days: for no man of his seed shall prosper, sitting upon the throne of David, and ruling any more in Judah. Jeremiah 36:30 Therefore thus saith the LORD of Jehoiakim king of Judah; He shall have none to sit upon the throne of David: and his dead body shall be cast out in the day to the heat, and in the night to the frost.

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    jesus' interpretation of the above 'CURSE'

'this has become the corner-stone'

a clear END of the israelite dispensation as well, an irrevocable transition and beginning of a new - ishmaelite dispensation was foretold by jesus himself.

      Matthew 21:42 Jesus says to    them,
      Have ye never read in the scriptures, The stone which they that builded rejected, this has become the corner-stone: this is of [the] Lord, and it is wonderful in our [JESUS] eyes? Matthew 21:43 Therefore I [JESUS] say to you, that the kingdom of God shall be taken from you [israelites] and shall be given to a nation [ISHMAELITE] producing the fruits of it.

            Luke 13:28 There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye [ISRAELITES] shall see Abraham, and Isaac, and Jacob, and all the prophets, in the kingdom of God, and you yourselves [ISRAELITES] thrust out.

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IMPORTANT -- IRREFUTABLE DIVINE CONCLUSION

      'Write ye this man childless -- He shall have none to sit upon the throne of David'

      There shall be weeping and gnashing of teeth, when ye [ISRAELITES] --- in the kingdom of God and you yourselves [ISRAELITES] thrust out.

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so, for all intents and purposes, this was the end it all -- as far as the said 'divine curse, transition and the throne of david' were concerned.

moreover, it must be remembered that:

                 not only was not JESUS, SON OF MARY from the house of judah and thus, the house of david;

                but also he did not come to abrogate the law or prophets of old and/or even to begin a new religion instead.

1.    LUCAN PROOF

[ jesus was from the house of aaron, the priest --           see luke 1:5,34-36. subsequently jesus was said to be a high priest after the order of melchisedek];

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paul's ridiculous and self defeating argument:

            Hebrews 7:14 For it is evident that our Lord sprang out of Juda; of which tribe Moses spake nothing concerning priesthood;

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therefore, any prophecies associating the 'advent of the messiah' -- GENESIS 49:10, with either jesus christ and/or the house of david is absolutely wrong and misleading. frankly, it falls flat on its face in light of the text vis-à-vis divine curses just cited.

jesus severed all ties with david

       and whence is he then his son?

           Mark 12:35 And Jesus answered and said, while he taught in the temple, How say the scribes that Christ is the son of David? Mark 12:36 For David himself said by the Holy Ghost, The LORD said to my Lord, Mark 12:37 David therefore himself calleth him Lord; and whence is he then his son?    Matthew 16:20 Then He warned the disciples that they should tell no one that He was the Christ.

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jesus was only an anointed teacher, messenger, prophet and a servant of god:

     John 4:25 The woman saith unto him, I know that Messias cometh, which is called Christ: when he is come, he will tell us all things. John 3:2 The same came to Jesus by night, and said unto him, Rabbi, we know that thou art a teacher come from God: for no man can do these miracles that thou doest, except God be with him.

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and although, he was born a christ [qur'an -- al-masih], anointed or purified, etc., -- he was not the long awaited 'messiah' in the technical sense of the term.

this deeply mysterious and the least understood concept found its fulfillment in islam -- and the holy and divine imamate--priesthood, as shown often previously.

      please note that the 'pauline christianity' as is stands today was not found by jesus himself.

      apparently, it was found by one renegade saul/paul of tarsus, who continually persecuted the followers of jesus, who, called themselves the nazrenes, after jesus of nazareth.

      however, the 'new pauline faith' was nurtured by Constantine, the emperor of Rome, and the early church in 325 ad. see details below.

    mary, the mother of Jesus

   John 2:1 And the third day there was a marriage in Cana of Galilee; and the mother of Jesus was there: John 2:3 And when they wanted wine, the mother of Jesus saith unto him, They have no wine.    Mark 6:3;    Matthew 1:18 Now the birth of Jesus Christ was on this wise: When as his mother Mary;

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rest assured, despite god's great favor and blessings upon mary [pbuth] -- she only considered herself as the handmaid of the lord. see Luke 1:38,48.

however, the roman catholic church raised her status to divinity. it worshipped her and asked for her intercession.

regardless, all of this inexplicable hotch-potch put together -- also violated the very essence and sanctity of a monotheistic faith -- that islam was/is -- which jesus, both taught and practiced himself.

unfortunately, this form of idolatry is more impure and imperfect than jesus' corrupt and impure pedigree.

so, this is the bottom line of the many interpolations that have had crept into the so-called christianity after the blessed and highly honored prophet of god namely, jesus [pbuh].

the christian impurity continues in a different form.

THE TRINITY INVOLVING MARY

            Islam and the Koran deny the Triune nature of God.
Koran Sura 5:72-73 [72] Certainly they disbelieve who say: "Allah is Christ the son of Mary." But said Christ: "O Children of Israel! worship Allah, my Lord and your Lord." Whoever joins other gods with Allah,- Allah will forbid him the Garden, and the Fire will be his abode. There will for the wrong-doers be no one to help. [73] They disbelieved who say: Allah is one of three (in a Trinity): for there is no god except One God. If they desist not from their word (of blasphemy), verily a grievous chastisement will befall the disbelievers among them.

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     5:116. And when Allah saith: O Jesus, son of Mary! Didst thou say unto mankind: Take me and my mother for two gods beside Allah? he saith: Be glorified! It was not mine to utter that to which I had no right. If I used to say it, then Thou knewest it. Thou knowest what is in my mind, and I know not what is in Thy Mind. Lo! Thou, only Thou, art the Knower of Things Hidden?
           5.116: C829. Jesus disclaims here any knowledge of the sort of things that are attributed to him by those who take his name. The worship of Mary, though repudiated by the Protestants, was widely spread in the earlier churches, both in the East and the West. Yusuf Ali's Commentary from QuranTrans

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LUKE INVENTS ANOTHER TRINITY INVOLVING MARY, HER SON AND THE HOLY GHOST:

              Matthew 001:020 But while he thought on these things, behold, the angel of the LORD appeared unto him in a dream, saying, Joseph, thou
son of David, fear not to take unto thee
1.     Mary thy wife:
2.     for that [son] which is conceived in her--Mary
3.     is of the Holy Ghost.
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PROOF #2 --     ANOTHER TRINITY INVOLVING MARY, HER SON AND THE HOLY GHOST:

             Luke 001:035 And the angel answered and said unto her [Mary],
1.     The Holy Ghost shall
2.     come upon thee [Mary],
3.     and the power of the Highest shall overshadow
4.     thee [Mary], : therefore
5.     also that holy thing which shall be born of
6.     thee [Mary], shall be called the Son of God.
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as if that was not enough, paul invented the trinity of god, woman--the mother of god--GOD BEARER --THEOTOKOS -- vatican and her son.

             galatians 4:4 but when the fullness of the time was come,
1.    god sent forth his
2.    son,
3.    made of a woman, made under the law;

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  5TH CENTURY INNOVATION

QUADRINITY

1. GOD, THE FATHER
2. GOD, THE SON
3. GOD, THE HOLY GHOST
4. MARY, MOTHER OF GOD

[EQUAL VENERATION & ADORATION]

         the Mother and Handmaid of the Lord

    Mary as "Theotokos"--genitrix of God

PROOF

    SIGNUM MAGNUM THE GREAT SIGN

LETTER OF HIS HOLINESS POPE PAUL VI 13 May 1967 TO TH E CATHOLIC BISHOPS OF THE WORLD The memory, venerable brothers, is still vivid in our mind of the great emotion we felt in proclaiming the august Mother of God as the spiritual Mother of the Church,

The memory came spontaneously to many minds of the first grandiose triumph achieved by the humble "handmaid of the Lord"[4] when the Fathers from East and West, gathered in an ecumenical council at Ephesus in the year 431 greeted Mary as "Theotokos"--genitrix of God.
On the occasion of the religious ceremonies which are taking place at this time in honor of the Virgin Mother of God in Fatima, Portugal,
that "Mary, the Mother of God and Mother of the Redeemer"[8] [13] not only as "the most holy Mother of God, who took part in the mysteries of Christ,"[14] but also "as the Mother of the Church."[15]
Nor is it to be feared that liturgical reform, if put into practice according to the formula "the law of faith must establish the law of prayer"[16] may be detrimental to the "wholly singular" veneration[17] due to the Virgin Mary for her prerogatives, first among these being the dignity of the Mother of God. Nor is it to be feared that the greater veneration, liturgical as well as private, given to her may obscure or diminish "the adoration which is offered to the Incarnate Word, as well as to the Father and to the Holy Spirit."[18]
Furthermore, it is well to bear in mind that Mary's eminent sanctity was not only a singular gift of divine liberality. It was also the fruit of the continuous and generous cooperation of her free will in the inner motions of the Holy Spirit. It is because of the perfect harmony between divine grace and the activity of her human nature that the Virgin rendered supreme glory to the Most Holy Trinity and became the illustrious ornament of the Church, which thus greets her in sacred Liturgy: "You are the glory of Jerusalem, the joy of Israel, the honor of our people"[28].

[emphasis added, navali]

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in view of the above, it would be fair to assert and conclude that jesus, a descendant of aaron, the priest -- from his only maternal parentage, presented the pre-biblical and biblical message in a new form, which, for the most part was rejected by both the jews and israelites of his day.

says jesus:

             Matthew 5:17 Think not that I am come to destroy the law, or the prophets: I am not come to destroy, but to fulfill. Matthew 5:18 For verily I say unto you, Till heaven and earth pass, one jot or one tittle shall in no wise pass from the law, till all be fulfilled.

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rest assured, the above is only one aspect of the said 'eternal' islamic faith which he taught and practiced himself then.

the other, more important side thereof pertains to the eternal priesthood like so:

           Psalms 110:4 The LORD hath sworn, and will not repent, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchizedek.

     Hebrews 5:5 So also Christ glorified not himself to be made an high priest; Hebrews 5:6 As he saith also in another place, Thou art a priest for ever after the order of Melchisedec. [see also genesis 14:18-22 & hebrews 7:1-3]

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it is said that the latter was written some 90-110 years after jesus' mission and life on earth. anyhow, with the above in mind, let us proceed with the following task at hand.

fulfillment of the old prophecies and divine promises -- plus scriptural linkage in the current phase or dispensation of islam.

_B_I_S_M_i_llaahir RAHMAANIR rahim -- IN THE _N_A_M_E_ of allah, RAHMAN, rahim

         055.001.     Alrrahmanu
055.002.    AAallama alqur-ana
055.003.     Khalaqa al-insana

055.001      AR RAHMAAN
055.002       hath made known the qur'an. 055.003 he hath created the MAN*.

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               [Pooya/Ali Commentary 76:1]

The literal meaning of this verse -- [HQ: 76:1] -- is that the physical world existed long before man was ever heard of or mentioned.

Dahr means "time from the beginning of the world to its end".

According to the followers of the Ahl ul Bayt when it is accepted by the Muslim scholars that Ali has been crowned with surah ad Dahr (tajdar hal ata) it is obvious that the question is an assertion that at no time the world was, is and will be without the existence of Ali ibn abi Talib. Refer to the commentary of Bani Israil: 1 for "There is no god save Allah and Muhammad is His Prophet with Ali as his right hand" written in celestial light in the heaven, witnessed by the Holy Prophet.

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          Deuteronomy 18:18 A prophet will I raise up unto them [israelites] from among their brethren [ishmaelites], like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth,   he shall speak in my _n_a_m_e

Psalms 40:7 Then I said, "Lo, I come; in the roll of the book it is written of me; Hebrews 10:7 Then I said, 'Lo, I have come to do thy will, O God,' as it is written of me in the roll of the book." Isaiah 29:12 And when they give the book to one who cannot read, saying, "Read this," he says, "I cannot read."



          THE AGA   KHAN IV

Islam is for muslims *al-Haqq — the Truth*

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       Ya-seen _W_A_A_L_qur-anil alhakeemi -- YASIN -- [O MAN] -- _A_N_D_ the wise qur'an .... wakulla shay-in ahsaynahu fee imamin mubeenin -- and everything have we vested in the imam manifest -- in huwa illa zikrun waqur-anun mubeenun -- verily HE IS/this is no less than a reminder and a qur'an MANIFEST

[surah yasin 36:1,2,12,69]

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     CRITICAL EVIDENCE --
the new testament AUTHENTICATES - the gospel of barnabas & HQ: 4:157,158

           John 8:32 and ye shall know the truth, and the truth shall set you free.

           Thessalonians I 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

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          5:15. O People of the Scripture! Now hath Our messenger come unto you, expounding unto you much of that which ye used to hide in the Scripture, and forgiving much. now hath come unto you light from Allah--MINAL-LAAHI NOOR -- and Scripture MANIFEST-- kitaabim MUBIIN, 5:16. Whereby Allah guideth him who seeketh His good pleasure unto paths of peace. He bringeth them out of darkness unto light by His decree, and guideth them unto a straight path -- SIRAATIM MUSTAQIIM

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VATICAN DRAWS CLOSER TO ISLAM

Pope Kisses The Koran

Pope Kisses The Koran

“Patriarch” Raphael I of Babylon of the Chaldeans in Iraq, in an interview with Fides says: “On May 14^th I was received by the Pope, together with a delegation composed of the Shiite imam of Khadum mosque and the Sunni President of the council of administration of the Iraqi Islamic Bank At the end of the audience the Pope bowed to the Muslim holy book the Koran presented to him by the delegation and he kissed it as a sign of respect. The photo of that gesture has been shown repeatedly on Iraqi television and it demonstrates that the Pope is not only aware of the suffering of the Iraqi people, he has also great respect for Islam.”(Fides news agency, Rome, 4 June 1999)

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The pope spoke last

     Speaking in English, he quoted the Koran, the Old Testament and the New Testament, and asked for mutual understanding and peace.
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in light of the above, one cannot doubt the pope's sincerity and affinity with islam, which he concurs, is also a part of the abrahamaic faith.

now, did mr. george bush jr., the usa president understand any of the above when he first declared the under mentioned epithets following the september 11 attack on the world trade centers? perhaps not.

having said that, what did the usa president actually mean when he angrily uttered those -- infused and historically highly charged and pregnant words -- phrases?

the meaning of this utterance became very clear when the usa and the coalition forces bombed an islamic mosque on the first day of ramadhan in afghanistan. their bombardment continued throughout that holy month.

however, it was stopped on both christmas and new year's day, if my memory serves me right.

unfortunately, this was the one and only side of the story being told to the american public and the world at large by the 'state controlled' -- [in this case] -- western news media in a free and democratic country, regardless.

although these so-called 'free media' continued to display the 'america at war' banner during the month of ramadhan, the same was dropped briefly during both christmas and new year's day.

what does this tell us, muslims -- who are trying to be very open and objective about this matter?

in order to understand the other more significant side especially with respect to america's own role and history in the said creation of these evil and/or radical forces please click on the following links.

    *'GOOD VERSUS EVIL'
   'the crusade'*

Bush's use of word 'crusade' a red flag

Muslims link it with invasion by Europeans

Tuesday, September 18, 2001

By SALLY BUZBEE
THE ASSOCIATED PRESS

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U.S. networks criticised for 'patriotic' bias in journalism
By Thalif Deen, Asia Times, 12 December 2001

TO BE CONTINUED

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          003.095 Say: Allah speaketh truth.
So follow the religion of Abraham [imam],imam],

Lakum Diinukum--Unto you your Religion
WA LIYA DIIN--AND UNTO ME MY RELIGION
Kaafiruun--Disbelievers - Surah 109:6

Salaam:Peace

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