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The spirit of homosexuality huh?

I believe that it's genetic among other things. Homosexuality is simply a
part of your personality, that can't be changed.

Also, on another note. God may have not created homosexuality (i.y opinion)
but didn't he create that little apple tree that Adam and Eve was munching
off? Now, being the all knowing sky-dude that knows everything and sees
everything, why did he make it if he knew Adam and Eve would munch of it?
For a good laugh? This obviously states that humans were NOT created in his
image.

Even though I am an atheist I do know some basic bible knowledge.

From: 'Fredrik'

Good points Fredrik. What has me more curious are these spirits of
homosexuality. How do you know they exist? Have you done research and
found spirits in the bodies of homosexuals? Is there a verse in the
Bible that describes this spirit? These spirit things have always
made me curious. What are they made out of, where do they come from
(I believe the bible says god?)

"If you say it's genetic in a small way this may also be true the
spirit was passed down. How? Their environment they may have grown up
in, constantly being surrounded by evil acts meaning they are easily
open and vulnerable to the spirit of homosexuality, among others."

Again, I'm confused, when you say spirits, perhaps you mean memetics?
Certainly it would make sense to me that someone growing up in a
homosexual enviroment may be more apt to develop homosexual feelings.
Just as someone in a strong Christian household (or any other belief
or lack thereof) Would be more likely to become Christian.

Intrestingly enough, I've been hearing studies that claim skepticism
may be also controlled by genetics. I don't have anything to back it
up at this time, but it's interesting to think about.

From: 'odi_brassicium'

Subject: Re: U know what i think?

Thanks for your imput i can not yet fully reply to ur questions for i
find some things hard to explain even though i know what i'm saying.
i will find in the Bible where it talks about homosexuality and
stuff, for i don't like to say too much without having some good
evedince to back it up also, but somethings though i just know but
can't back it up or tell u anymore.
But for this i will try.
Get back to u soon on this.

From: 'dbarkk'

Subject: Re: U know what i think?

Eager to hear from you, and thanks for looking. For specific places
in the bible regarding homosexuality, you can go to
skepticsannotatedbible.com It's obviously run by skeptics, and is
therefore critical of Christianity, but it should help you pinpoint
the places where homosexuality is discussed.

From: 'odi_brassicium'

Subject: Re: U know what i think?

Homosexuality: A state of mind or body?

How many of you upon reaching adolescence had to go through a
decision making process of whether you were going to be a
heterosexual or a homosexual?

My answer is I didn't! I knew I was a female all the time I was
growing up, I knew I was a heterosexual female at adolescence. There
was never any time that I questioned that fact. I can honestly say
I've never, ever had any homesexual urges, have never lusted after a
female or even wondered if I could make love to a female.

I've asked this question of both females and males and had the same
answer from heterosexuals queried...NO, there never was a decision
making process. Sexual identity was not a decision, a preference, a
choice.

When asked the same question homosexuals that I've asked have said
that basically they didn't make a decision, a preference or a choice
in the matter of sexual identity either. The males found that they
were attracted to other males from the start of sexuality. The
females were attracted to other females from the start.

It's pretty obvious that no one would CHOOSE the life of a homosexual
and to say so is just igorant! To blame a person for being born with
homosexuality is the same as blaming them for being born with
diabetes, or heart disease, or missing limbs.

From: 'mz_fitz'

Subject: Re: U know what i think?

Yes, whatever the choice is, it most certainly is not an intellectual
descision. It's based on urges people get. My question is, what about
bisexuals? Do you think that's a case of conflicting hormones, or
maybe a combination of other things? Or maybe there's just no
confliction of heterosexuality and homosexuality, and why aren't
there any nonsexuals (or maybe there are and I'm just not aware), for
lack of a better term. Anyone please feel free to answer.

From: 'odi_brassicium'

Subject: Re: U know what i think?

I honnestly can not comment too much on that subject for i do not
know enough.If you don't mind and if u do then please say, may i
please change the topic, i asure u for only a moment, to Creation &
evolution what is ur belief and y?

From: "dbarkk"

Subject: Re: U know what i think?

Sure, no prob. As a very avid biology student/enthusiast, I believe
in evolution over creation.

Basically I started out as a creationist, and then gradually got more
and more into science. I saw facts in science that were very
inconsistent with creation, so I abandoned my veiw of creation. A
while after I realized that god was inconsistent with my knowledge of
the universe, and abandoned my religion as well.

My reasons are so varied, from fossil evidence, to genetic evidence,
to logic and reasoning, I don't know where to start. If you or anyone
else would like to debate Creation VS Evolution, feel free to make a
new topic, I'd be glad to discuss it.

From: "odi_brassicium"

Subject: turning to sin

I can't remember who was talking about God creating the apple for Eve
to eat and if He didn't want her to eat it then why did he make it bu
At basically Adam and Eve in the garden of Eden didn't really happen.
It is a symbolic story how humans were giving the choice of whether
or not to sin, and they chose to.
God Bless,
Demelza

From: "princessdnz"

Subject: re creation vs evolution.

I believe that God created evolution. (talk about sitting fence
huh?). I know it sounds weird, but that's what I believe. I think
that God created the universe etc, and that when he did, he had us in
mind as His final product, and that we evolved into beings of His
likeness. I don't know why He didn't just create us like in the book
of Genesis (the creation theory). Maybe it was because He knew that
intelligent beings didn't just happen and that we would be pretty
messed up if we were just suddenly there with complete knowledge of
everything. So instead we evolved and learnt all we know throughout
time, and we are still learning today.

That's just my thoughts on the whole topic anyway :)

God bless,
Demelza

From: "princessdnz"

Subject: Re: U know what i think?

So u started off as a Creationist does that mean u were a Christian
or u just picked that over evolution?
Because evolution is not fact like some people claim it to be it is
only theroy and one of many.
I don't see why Creation is that hard to believe when all the facts
that we need to know are there in front of u in black & white (the
Bible).
Tests done to prove how the Earth was formed and when, only are done
by what we know today i mean noone alive was ever there back then
when the Earth was Created.
There are no witnesses.
And same for Creation but there is the written witness, the Bible,
where the people who did witness such events have recoreded them.
The first 5 books of the Bible are written by Moses, now ofcourse he
wasn't there when God Created the Earth but his ansestors were Adam &
Eve, now before sin entered the world they would walk and talk with
God in the garden like noone eles ever has.
God told them how He created the Earth then they verbally passed it
on to the next geeration and so forth (for there was no way or
recording stuff then, like writting)untill Moses recoreded the whole
thing by hand.
Now Christian or not, it is fact, that back then to tell and then
acurately memorise your family origins and history was common.
It was way more acurate than some whispers game too.

From: "dbarkk"

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