poisons

Please could you try to respect my privacy and try to remember that I am trying to 'play' this game too. If you have any question relating to poison, either post it in the guest book or use mud mail to ask me. Not in tells. Contrary to belief, I do not know *evrything*.

As most older assassins will know, as a guild we have been hoping for a poisons lab for some time, so that we may be able to brew our own poisons. Currently we have two available in the guild shop. One which reduces con and the other which reduces HP. Neither are really that effective though. As a result of this poisons are not really something we use often.

I suffer from boredom alot, when this happens I do one of two things....I sing at people or I think - yes I can think contrary to belief :P - upon one of these occassions, shortly after being meteored by Lucifer and stabbed in the region of two million times by Dogbolter for singing at them I noticed the person stood next to me fiddling with his vials and phials....I started thinking .......

After days and hours of tests, nearly poisoning Ishnohiwa out of the game due to ignorance and a trail of ghosts I managed to come up with some intersting results. Yay! guess what? we are pretty damned stoopid :P All this time we have been hankering for a poisons lab when infact, we have been able to make out own poisons all the while.....

HOW?

Well, its actually embarrassingly easy. Many of the people I've spoken to whilst performing my 'experiments' have all said the same thing 'Doh! Ofcourse!' :P We currently buy our poisons in phials, one purple one green...ok, ok I wont bore you by going on so i'll get to the point....

Pour green phial into vial
Pour purple phial into vial
Look vial

Weeeee! we have a 3rd poison.

Well thats no great feat is it....I mean so what? So we get a mixture of the two poisons, hardly anything to shout about eh.:P

Hrm but what about all those other poisons on the disc? Oh? Didn't think about those? Hehe you are now arnt you though.....And why stop at poisons? Have a quick think about all those things that have an 'effect' upon us. Just a simple little concoction :

pour 2/5 green phial into vial
pour 2/5 purple phial into vial
pour 5/100 vodka into vial
Look vial

hrm a fouth poison....hrm vodka's a bit dodgy though......

Fire pipe at gullible
Direct Hit!

Gullible is now drunk and unable to fight you, passing out and slurring, his con has been reduced and his hp's are going down fast.....Oh decisions decisions..Do you stand and watch him die? Or do you help him along with your dagger? :P

Originally I was going to put up all of my test results but after a talk with few higher level asassins we agree'd it would be better if I didnt. It takes patience to find the correct blend of substances and unfortunately small things like using 5/100 instead of 2/5 makes a difference. Some blends which you make will come out a complete waste, others not. Some will even heal instead of poison despite poison being the content. I can't explain why, it just does but either way, I've found some very effective blends which were able to kill the recipient almost immediately, for this reason it seems better that you find them out for yourself. Experiment and have fnu with it.

If you have problems with the pouring then take a look at the fraction you are using. I.e if you are trying 2/100 then possibly this amount is too small for the particular container and substance. Try 1/5 instead or other fraction. These don't appear to be 'logical' so I suggest you have a play with one substance and two containers for a while, just pouring one into the other to check what fractions you need to use. This will vary from container to container.

As Shatterhand put it whilst pulling out his hair at the wall trying to work them out ;

Shatterhand tells you: well with these roundings beeing way te
Shatterhand tells you: way off everyone wil have to fiddle for themselves i think

Which sums it up nicely :)

SOME POISONS AVAILABLE

Green phial - Assassins Guild
Effects - Reduces con

Purple phial - Assassins Guild
Effects - Reduces HP

Turquoise vial - Temple of small gods or general stores
Effects - Heals but when mixed with other substances can work to an oposite effect.

Yarrow - witches gardens
Effects - As with the turquoise vial, in some quantities it can heal, in others poison.

Nadows apples - AM. Unconfirmed
Effects - Reduces Con and HP with each bite.

vodka - OC
Effects - Causes drunkenness. Can induce an inability to hold things effectively, fight and pass out unconcious.

scumble - OC
Effects - Causes drunkenness. Can induce an inability to hold things effectively, fight and pass out unconcious.

rust mushrooms - Sator Sq.
Effects - Differing effects of this from people. Some say it kills more or less ouright. Another source says that it increases str for 5 minutes and then decreases Dex and Con by 1 point. This is based 'per bite'.

Healing tea - witches or tea shop, preferably incorrectly brewed tea which is poisonous.
Effects - Incorrectly brewed this will reduce HP and can kill if unchecked.

Scorpions - Streets of KLK Or for stronger venom the bug caves. Unconfirmed
Effects - Reduces con with each dosage (bite) and then small amounts of HP but in lesser amounts to the spiders.

Giant Spiders - Gloomy. Remove poison glands. Unconfirmed
Effects - Reduces con with each dosage (bite). Then reduces HP by small amounts.

Unusual Vine plant - Western part of KLK. Remove seeds. Unconfirmed
Effects - Causes an unconcious state from the spores.

Bat Guano - Wherever a bat has been. Unconfirmed
Effects - Really shit. Hehe, couldn't resist. :P

Pizza - Pizza shop AM. Unconfirmed
Effects - Stat reduction, sometimes death. Fear.

Unconfirmed = These substances have been passed onto me by others. I have not confirmed there effectiveness myself. Yet. :P If you can. Then please let me see them in action.

PLEASE NOTE : For some substances - no idea why - it seems we have to 'trick' them into becoming useable. This is done by adding the smallest amount of poison possible ( or more if you prefer). I can't explain why this is, I merely know that it overcomes many of the problems surrounding the stubborn substance.

There are many more substances on the Disc which can be used but the above is just something to get you started and provoke some thought. Try to remember. If something provokes an effect, then its worth trying.

TOOLS

More or less everything you need can be found at Granny's cottage in Lancre. She has a grinder there for your yarrow, apples and mushrooms and also a sink to aquire water and fill bottles, bear in mind though that if you fill a bottle with a poison mixture you like, then you will have to fill a vial or phial from it in order to dip in your dart for the blowpipe. As yet, it is also uncertain if mixing your poisons in larger quantities changes it's nature. I'd be interested to have this confirmed if someone finds out, please.

A Vial holds around 8 parts. TBC

A Phial holds around 5 parts. TBC

You can only dip darts into Vials or Phials.

Identify your containers to make it easier.
Syntax: Identify <container> as <name>

To transfer from one phial/bottle to another.
Syntax : Pour <amount><container> into <container 2>

To grind a substance into a powder using Granny's grinder.
Syntax : grind plant with grinder

Please remember, although other guilds take an interest in poisons, it's is BREAKING CHARTER to buy them for players not of this guild.

May I also say a huge thankyou to everyone who has contributed to the poisons list. I can only remember a few peoples names but have forgotten what they suggested. :(
If you post it in the guest book then at least you will get credit where credit is due, I'm sorry..my bad. :(

Have fun with this, be patient and don't give up. Also don't believe that large quantites will make it stronger....The one I found which was most effective was only a very small quantity of substances. If you find a blend which you think is worthy of mention then let me know and I'll put it up for you, same goes for ingredients. :)