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Reply #240 - Yesterday at 08:08

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JrnymnX said: Response to reply # 209 StarJade said in response to my assertion that "the existence of God cannot be empirically proven":

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There is only one God and that is the Living White Sphere which is the Living God. Now nobody gives a toss wither you believe in God or not.

JrnymnX replies: Notice that StarJade has not attempted to prove empiracally that God exists, he simply redirects and attacks. The simple fact remains that the existence of God cannot be empirically proven, and no amount of hype or hyperbole will change that... even if it is from StarJade.

Starjade says: These conversations are not about the existence of the Living God but were about those false Prophets such as John and his so called apocalyptic revelations and of that fraud Jesus and no doubt mad Muhammad will get a mention and there is bound to be a chat about the fabricated Gabriel and other stuff.

Also you deluded yourself that you could establish that I was not the Deuteronomy Prophet and yet we have not seen any evidence of you ever doing that. The existence of the living God is not relevant as we are already speaking of Prophecies come from the living God and brought down by Moses himself. It would not even matter if the living God exists or not. The fact is the Jews do believe in the living God and they are waiting for a Prophet to come from the living God to gather them up from the four corners of the globe. It is that belief that opens the way to an Exodus from the four corners of the globe.

We were not speaking of your personal belief in God or your views on God. As the conversations surrounded the Living Gods Prophecy why would anyone suddenly start waffling on about some view that God does not exist. That was hardly a relevant conversation.

As I have come here to this planet fulfilling the Living Gods Prophecy then there is some evidence to the existence of the Living God. What is more as can already be read in my Journey beyond the grave, when I returned to this Planet I saw a series of major earthquakes and land movements and when those events occur that adds to that evidence. http://www.geocities.com/end_of_times/chapterone.htm

Oh and in case you forgot according to Deuteronomy law Ch 19 v15 it can be established that I am a genuine prophet with a provable connection to the Living God and we all have seen that I exist running rings around the so called religious congregations.

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What is more you have avoided the fact that I overheard a woman praying to God whiles she was one year in the future praying not for herself but for Babies buried with her. Yes you know that story as that was also writ about. So how can you possibly explain how I can over hear the prayers of a woman buried in an earthquake one year in my future. And I did describe her situation to a room full of people one year in the past to that grave event. Now I do not feel any need to go preaching to someone who says God does not exist. Especially as you are using that to escape from the errors you made regarding Deuteronomy law and the Deuteronomy Prophet. We all know I have got you by the short and curlies and you are trying to change the subject.

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StarJade said: Quote:Hey do not forget you and others are fool enough to not believe that I could be proven to be a Prophet with a provable connection to the Living God...

JrnymnX replies: Its not about foolishness, its about rationality. As said above I haven't contested your abilities as a prophet. The connection to the Living God cannot be proven. That's the entirety of it.

Starjade says: Oh but we all know that you are mistaken I n fact we already saw you bite the Dust on that one right here in the Four horsemen of the apocalypse.

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Reply #242 - Today at 04:36

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StarJade said: Quote: That�s a religious law of the Jews by the way in case you fell asleep.

JrnymnX replies: I'm very aware that it is a Jewish law.

Starjade says: Actually in truth it is an Old Testament law that binds the Jews.

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StarJade said: Quote:...in my insistence they build the Third Temple in Africa and sell off the lands of Israel for larger tracts of lands in Africa...

JrnymnX replies: Wow. They refused to sell off the entire land of Israel for a tract of land in Africa. I can't get my head around this one.

Starjade says: You cant get your head around a lot of things I say even though I said it simply. Clearly your egotistical opinions are getting in your way of the truth.

JrnymnX replies: The refused to sell off the land given to them by the Living God thousands of years ago - their Promised Land all on your say-so that they should.

Starjade says: Perhaps refusal was my own word in their words they were not going to sell of the lands of Israel to the Muslims for larger tracts of land in Africa which is still a refusal isn�t it. And the Living God gave them that land until a Time indefinite but that does not mean indefinitely. And not on just my say so but on the say so of the Lord King of the Jews. You know that Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verses 15/18 Prophet that the living God promised Moses he would raise up and to whom the Jews must hearken.

JrnymnX replies: And for land in Africa. What land by the way. I wasn't aware that they were selling off a contiguous tract of land in Africa that was in excess of 21,000 square kilometers. Where did you find out about it? Is it on E-Bay?

Starjade says: Ah so you know that Africa soil is valuable as well eh.? I mean of course North Africa which is the territory of African Muslims. Look on the End of Times web site and realise why I wanted the land of North Africa bearing in mind the Tidal flows moving South. Of course the African Muslims would not want to sell off their lands either even though it is a shitty land they can do nothing but starve in. However, be sure they would sell off the whole of North Africa if they could get their hands on the lands of Israel and so I know I could get a good deal. Still that was and still is a part of my Exodus plan. The Jews can re claim Israel back later if they want to as everyone on this planet would be dead. So I saw it as a sensible thing to do.

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Reply #243 - Today at 04:37

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StarJade said: Quote: To the point they preferred to break their Covenant with the Living God.

JrnymnX replies: As I have clearly shown you above - not following you plan for their earthly salvation in no way breaks their covenant with the Living God. You yourself have admitted that the plan to exodus them was your own idea.

Starjade says: I thought you said you knew something about the Jews. The Jews have been waiting for that Deuteronomy Prophet to gather them up from the four corners of the Globe. Now that says EXODUS doesn�t it. So I planned in staggering detail the mass Exodus of all Jews that is all the descendants of Abraham from the four corners of the globe. Those plans I formulated however. The Jews have been waiting thousands of years for that specific Deuteronomy Prophet to come here and gather them all up from the four corners of the globe. That belief has existed with the Jews for thousands of years and was not some new invention made by me. It is that fact they were waiting for that Exodus that caused me to see a way to mass Exodus millions of people out of those earthquake zones I have seen at that future Time.

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StarJade said: Quote: Consider the illogical behaviour of the complacent Jews.

JrnymnX replies: Yes, so illogical to keep what you have been given by the Living God when they could have given it all up for a life of homelessness and ultimately death. Silly, silly people.

Starjade says: I do not follow what you are saying? The Exodus was to Africa where they would be living within the Third Temple which would be a biosphere city within which they would survive. It is those outside that biosphere that will perish.

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Reply #244 - Today at 04:37

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StarJade said: Quote: I further add by the way regarding the tax owed by the Jews. I have to demand that tax for the Living God taxed them of first born man and beast.

JrnymnX replies: You know so little about Jewish laws and practices, yet here you are claiming that the Jews owe taxes to God?

Starjade says: The Living God did tax all the Jews and they do not have that tax. Clearly I know more about those Jews than you do. I suggest you read the Old Testament for it is all writ in there. If a Jew is in debit then they must work for free until that debit is paid. That is Jewish law and a part of their religion. Do you doubt that also.

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Reply #245 - Today at 04:38

JrnymnX replies: The next sentence is a doosy, better take it in three parts to better address the three mistakes it contains.

Starjade says; Oh go on then for Starjade loves a challenge and I have been rather bored recently.

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StarJade said: Quote: So when it is established by the law of Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 a law that binds all Jews that I am a Prophet...

JrnymnX replies: As said (and obivously ignored) before - you can't use this law to prove anything. Get over it.

Starjade says: It is you who needs to waken up. The Jews I speak with do know what I am talking about and I recently once again challenged you over this issue of Deuteronomy law and as per usual you bit the Dust oh by now you will have read the reply but hey as you wont accept the righteous words of Starjade then why not take the word of the writers of the New Testament and (cough tee hee) Jesus.

And there is you blowing out all that wind as if you had something valid that you could insist upon whiles there in the Holy Bible are statements writ by other writers of the how the law of Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verse 15 is a positive law that by two or three witnesses it can establish matters of the truth. Don�t forget if you want to ignore the word of Starjade the famed religious scholar then what about Jesus, do not forget what has been said.

Such as Galatians Chapter 13 verse 1: This is the third time I am coming to you, at the mouth of two witnesses or of the three, every matter must be established. John Chapter 5 verse 31: If I alone bear witness to myself, my witness is not true. Also in John Chapter 8 verse 17: Jesus said to the Jews. Also in your own law it is written, the witness of two men is true. (Tee hee) Again and again you bite the Dust. You are not just arguing over this matter with me and Deuteronomy law itself but also you stand against other writers who are written into the Bible. Now you really are on dodgy ground with your shallow beliefs but you refuse to give up your ghosts. So then there is no error there that I can see on my part. However, you are seen to be falling from grace.

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Reply #246 - Today at 04:39

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StarJade said: Quote:...with a provable connection to the Living God ...

JrnymnX replies: As said (and obviously ignored) before - you can't prove your connection to the Living God.

Starjade says: Overhearing the prayers of a woman buried in a Mexican earthquake that was happening 1 year in the future from the time of my Prophesying and sending help to that woman to save those babies that to this day are called Miracle babies. Hahaha wake up JrnymnX that was what humans would call impossible. Yet I spoke of that woman and those babies 1 year before she was buried and explained in front of witnesses what I had done to help her whiles I was one year in the past. Now only a Prophet from the Living God could do such an impossible thing. It is not something I do everyday yet on that day the opportunity presented itself and so I reacted automatically. Now you can blow out wind and bury your head in the sand however, when examining evidence of a miracle then that in a Jews point of view as well as others certainly falls into that category of divine intervention and the performing of a miracle.

These things accumulated with other things do show evidence of my connection to the Living God that can be established as being true and by the law of Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verse 15 because there are witnesses of my prophesying that grave event one year before it even happened. Oh by the way I did mention that I am also a Time traveller didn�t i. You know Aliens like me have some special powers we use now and then. It is not active always but when it is then I am a Phenomenon to behold. So the matter can still be established by witnesses to whom I narrated that future to and once again there is no error in my word.

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StarJade said: Quote:...then they must comply.

JrnymnX replies: If God wanted to force obediance he could, that you can't should be obvious.

Starjade says: we can all speculate what God can or cannot do but in case you do not note the faith of the Jews I do. The Living God made Covenants and they must show their faith in the living God or woe betide them. The Living God already made laws and statutes that binds those Jews and they were told as an order Deuteronomy Chapter 18 Verse 18 A Prophet I shall raise up in the MIDST of your Brothers, like you And I shall indeed put my words in his mouth and he will certainly speak to them all that I command him. Deuteronomy Chapter 18 Verse 19: And it must occur that the man who will not listen to my words that he will speak in my name. I shall myself require an account from him.

So then, when a Prophet from the Living God comes along with evidence that he is that Deuteronomy Prophet then it is not the Jews place to make any stand against him. Their religion can only be fulfilled by that specific Prophet and without him, they will all die. So they were bound by the Living Gods Covenant and laws long before I arrived back on this Planet. So they are the ones in error not me.

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Reply #247 - Today at 04:40

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StarJade said: Quote: That�s what.

JrnymnX replies: Maybe that would have some relevance if your were the prophet in question, but you aren't. You're not even Jewish.

Starjade says: You are not a Judge on who is or is not that prophet. Deuteronomy law and the word of the Living God makes that Judgement. I already established I am that very specific Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verses 1/18 Prophet to the Jews way back in 1995. The Living God does not say that Deuteronomy Prophet would be a Jew. I challenge you to show a quote made by the Living God that he would raise up a Prophet who would be a Jew. So as you cannot back your mouth up then still you bite the Dust.

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Reply #248 - Today at 04:40

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Response to reply # 210 StarJade said: Quote: I suggest you re read the last few pages as clearly by diligent inquisition there is a way by two or three witnesses. I named more than four.

JrnymnX replies: That is not applicable.

Starjade says: Whiles we note your opinion we all can read Deuteronomy law and two or three witnesses can establish a matter as being true or not. Oh just wait I want to repeat this for a laugh as we know you in your spite do not want to accept the words of the religious scholar Starjade. And there is you blowing out all that wind as if you had something valid that you could insist upon whiles there in the Holy Bible are statements writ by other writers of the how the law of Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verse 15 is a positive law that by two or three witnesses it can establish matters of the truth. Don�t forget if you want to ignore the word of Starjade the famed religious scholar then what about Jesus, do not forget what has been said.

Such as Galatians Chapter 13 verse 1: This is the third time I am coming to you, at the mouth of two witnesses or of the three, every matter must be established. John Chapter 5 verse 31: If I alone bear witness to myself, my witness is not true. Also in John Chapter 8 verse 17: Jesus said to the Jews. Also in your own law it is written, the witness of two men is true. (Tee hee) Again and again you bite the Dust. You are not just arguing over this matter with me and Deuteronomy law itself but also you stand against other writers who are written into the Bible. Now you really are on dodgy ground with your shallow beliefs but you refuse to give up your ghosts. So then there is no error there that I can see on my part.

John Chapter 8 verse 17: Jesus said to the Jews. Also in your own law it is written, the witness of two men is true.

Starjade says: Now come on JrnymnX what law exactly do you think Jesus was quoting then eh? (tee hee) And this character Jesus was speaking to the Jews it says so one assumes they know their own law especially as Jesus is so famous now. Be careful little santas helper James will get upset and spank your bottom for accusing Jesus of being a liar and he could be joined by every Christian on earth. I wonder if it says this in the Koran as well eh. I shall go ask a Muslim next Time we have our little chats. So face the fact you are in error and not only do I have Deuteronomy law backing my mouth up but Jesus (tee hee) himself. That puts you right out in the cold with your theories that hold no water.

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StarJade said: Quote: The writers of the New Testament were aware of the law of Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verse 15 and how that law by two or three witnesses can establish the truth as they often depicted their character Jesus as quoting that very law to get his points across to the congregations.

JrnymnX replies: You claim the New Testament was written by a bunch of liars and frauds, now you want to rest your proof on their words? All you can hope to achieve is prove to others that if you believe the word of liars and frauds then you should believe the word of StarJade. I would think you would want to distance yourself from liars and frauds, not closely tie yourself to them.

Starjade says: yes the New Testament was writ by the Romans and they are liars and frauds but they needed to be as exact as possible to pull their deceptions off. Now you see though why I am laughing at using the claimed word of Jesus to get that point across to you. Two or three witnesses are known to be able to establish matters of the truth. They were taking those quotes from Deuteronomy law and placing them out in their proper context. As for Jesus and those New Testament writers that is a separate issue and they used Old Testament text to fabricate their claims.

So JrnymnX you cannot weedle you way out of that one. You bragged of all those scholars studying Jewish law and there writ in that Bible you see the law portrayed and in use by the Jews so it is claimed. Remind yourself that all things thing�s are a portrayal of religious beliefs and what people believe true or not. So the congregations do accept that two or three witnesses can establish matters of the truth because that is Deuteronomy law. My use of that specific Deuteronomy law is exact and really it was most perceptive of me to bring that specific law to the Jews to establish all of my claims and statements as being true. (sigh) us Gemini�s have such remarkable brains you know for finding solutions to difficult problems.

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StarJade said: Quote: I show how by diligent inquisition I can be proven to be a genuine Prophet with a provable connection to the living God.

JrnymnX replies: No. You haven't. All you have done it repeat and repeat the same mistaken beliefs you have done in the past.

Starjade says: Now I showed you by example of how by diligent inquisition it can be established by Deuteronomy law that I am a Prophet with a provable connection to the Living God. Do not forget that two or three witness Testimonies can establish if a matter is true or not and my naming four witnesses and more shows how confident I am after all this Exodus thingy would inspire people and they needed the evidence so they would have faith. This of course is because of the many false Prophets who have appeared to them in the past like Jesus and Muhammad. Deuteronomy law binds the Jews and they can have faith in Deuteronomy law like it or not.

I add it is the way you write on that matter that is causing the repetition. I tried re wording to help you understand but you buried you head in the sand swimming and drowning in denial. Now I have the Jesus thingy to batter your head in with for you stand against written words in the Bible and all Christians on earth and also Muslims and the Jews and the much loved Doomsday prophet the phenomenal Starjade. You bit the Dust so think long and hard about what you have believed in for you are the one in error with your beliefs. The truths of my word should set you free.

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Reply #249 - Today at 04:41

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StarJade said: Quote: As the law of Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verse 15 is a law that determines matters of the truth regarding crimes of iniquity and sin...

JrnymnX replies: That is not what it does at all. It is not a law about truth, it is a law about bringing testimony against another. Surely even with the years of psilocybin abuse you can see the difference between these two disparate things.

Starjade says: Galatians Chapter 13 verse 1: This is the third time I am coming to you, at the mouth of two witnesses or of the three, every matter must be established. John Chapter 5 verse 31: If I alone bear witness to myself, my witness is not true. Also in John Chapter 8 verse 17: Jesus said to the Jews. Also in your own law it is written, the witness of two men is true.

Now it is clear that Jesus is saying that in your own law it is written, the witness of two men is true. So then how can you argue with Jesus eh? The character Jesus was quoting the law also. Yes the accusation of one man is an opinion and cannot be accepted as being a fact unless it is substantiated by another witness because then two or three witnesses establish the matter as being true or not by diligent inquisition. It is not as if I am claiming to be just any ole Prophet is it. Or do you also forget that Blasphemy is punishable by death.

So when I approached the Jews with my claims as well as Muslims I add and we know what they are like. Then if I could not prove my words were true then I would be put to death. I placed my life on the line to save the lives of millions of millions of Jews. I take all these matters very seriously. I would not be speaking if I wasn�t certain of the things that I do and I do not say oh believe in me I say keep your faith and believe in the word of the Living God and in your own religious laws that are sent to advise you.

You do not comprehend the serious nature of my claims. Once when having debates with over confident Muslims I made the challenge to them that I could outright prove to them that the Koran did not come from God and that Muhammad was not the Prophet from God as he claimed himself to being. I insisted I could prove this to be a fact using the very words of the Koran itself. I then said if I did that then they must convert from Islam and burn their Koran. However, If I could not prove that accusation then I would go to a very public place so it would be reported on the News and I would cut my own throat and die and be gone from this place.

Now that is how serious I am about all of these religious matters and I do put my life on the line and I do so every time I challenge the religious congregations. If I cannot back my mouth up then I will die for that would mean that I am guilty of Blasphemy and that is punishable by death. Of course as you see I am very much alive. Muslims dare not make such challenges with me for they knew up front I can prove the Koran does not come from God and that Muhammad is a liar and a fraud and I can and have proven that using the words of the Koran itself. So I was never in any danger. But it was clear that I meant what I had said and still do. This is not some game I am playing. I take these matters very seriously.

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Reply #250 - Today at 04:42

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StarJade said: Quote:...it is then a positive law.

JrnymnX replies: No, it's a negative law.

Starjade says: Galatians Chapter 13 verse 1: This is the third time I am coming to you, at the mouth of two witnesses or of the three, every matter must be established. John Chapter 5 verse 31: If I alone bear witness to myself, my witness is not true. Also in John Chapter 8 verse 17: Jesus said to the Jews. Also in your own law it is written, the witness of two men is true. Now if every matter can be established then by sheer logic and common sense that shows it is a positive law with a positive outcome one way or another.

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StarJade said: Quote: You bit the dust by listening to the blabberwocky of others and trying to make a stand by their foolish ignorant beliefs.

JrnymnX replies: You bite the dust by not recognizing the truth.

Starjade says: I have always presented the truth, it is you who is in denial. Of course as you do not want to take my word on this then (tee hee) what about Jesus who agrees with me. Jesus said to the Jews. Also in your own law it is written, the witness of two men is true. Now come on JrnymnX how can you explain that away. ? You will have to re think your position on witness law.

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Reply #251 - Today at 04:42

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Response to reply #211 StarJade said: Quote: As a matter of fact it can be established true by two or three witnesses who heard me speak of that woman buried in that earthquake rubble praying for those babies one year before that Mexican earthquake had even happened.

JrnymnX replies: This does not prove a conection to the Living God.

Starjade says: Of course it does. People ordinary people do not have the ability to listen in on prayers of people who are buried beneath earthquake rubble praying not for themselves but for others behind them. I described that woman and who she was praying for. Now that overhearing prayers to establish I have a provable connection to the Living God. It is not as if she or those babies died she and they survived that quake. It is just a weird coincidence that they happen to be called Miracle babies even today. So whiles we note your opinion there are a lots of Mexicans who say that was divine intervention and a miracle right here on earth.

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Reply #252 - Today at 04:43

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StarJade said: Quote...also consider my specialist religious knowledge that clearly no religious leader on earth has ever revealed in Revelation.

JrnymnX replies: Yes, very interesting. specialist religious knowledge gained without study. Very interesting.

Starjade says: Oh is this you miffed again (sigh) It is very obvious that I know my subjects and that I am far more all knowing than your stupid religious leaders. I known more than one religion and I happen to be a world authority on many religions with a religious knowledge that far surpasses any other religious scholar. I run rings around them I was taught the religion of Islam by Islamic scholars and I took on a congregation of over 1000 Muslims and not one of them could defend the Koran or the Claims of Muhammad. I took on two over 20 years Christians ordained ministers and Christians congregations and they could not defend jesus from my Revelations. Some evidence of that fact exists right here at the mad philosophers guild. So don�t play me I have a staggering religious education and have done my share of studying. Hey I even to this day continue to teach you and do not pretend that my words do not haunt you.

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Reply #253 - Today at 04:44

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StarJade said: Quote: You have such false confidence in your brags.

JrnymnX replies: My confidence is not false, it is justified.

Starjade says: It is misplaced you mean. But wait a minute what would Jesus say (tee hee) John Chapter 5 verse 31: If I alone bear witness to myself, my witness is not true. Ooops so as you testify to yourself then ikkle ole Jesus says what you say is not true. And I agree and so as Jesus (tee hee) would also say (tee hee) John Chapter 8 verse 17: Jesus said to the Jews. Also in your own law it is written, the witness of two men is true. Seems like the evidence weighs out against you. Meaning you have bitten the Dust.

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Reply #254 - Today at 04:45

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StarJade said: Quote: Yet you are not able to back your mouth up on the issues you voice your opinion with.

JrnymnX replies: I have backed up my mouth by quoting from other sources so that you could verify the truth of my words, yet you have not done so. Nor have you attempted to show me through similar means that you are not alone in your very unconventional beliefs.

Starjade says: Mm now what would Jesus say under this circumstance (tee hee) Galatians Chapter 13 verse 1: This is the third time I am coming to you, at the mouth of two witnesses or of the three, every matter must be established. John Chapter 5 verse 31: If I alone bear witness to myself, my witness is not true. Also in John Chapter 8 verse 17: Jesus said to the Jews. Also in your own law it is written, the witness of two men is true.

So then I show I am not alone and named Deuteronomy law and The new Testament and Jesus himself. My words then may seem unconventional but they are still most exacting as anyone reading can only agree and that means even you. Your sources as I did say before are clearly mistaken.

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