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Re: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

Reply #195 - 06. Jan 2007 at 14:58

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StarJade says: [Allow me to summarise] Yackle; insults; more insults; more insults; misguided "proofs"; bragging; more misinterpretations; "proof" quoted from his own book (how convincing); a sidewise admission that he acted on his own volition, not the instructions of God; more yackle (ad nauseum); an accusation directed at me (gasp); more yackle; finishing up with Quote:

Without any doubt more than four witnesses can testify that I am a genuine Prophet who is a true Seer of the future who does have a provable connection to the living God who has approached the Jews with a view to an Exodus of Jews from the four corners of the globe. The Jews have waited thousands of years for a Prophet from the Living God to arrive and do just that. Deuteronomy law does establish that I am a genuine Prophet with a provable connection to the Living God. I have already named more than four witnesses and the law says I only needed two. So when you say��..

JrnymnX replies: A lot of yackle in that, but I'll address the last little bit directly:

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StarJade says:Without any doubt more than four witnesses can testify that I am a genuine Prophet who is a true Seer of the future...

JrnymnX replies: I've never contested this.

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StarJade says: ...who does have a provable connection to the living God...

JrnymnX replies: As the existence of God cannot be empirically proven, no connection to said 'living God' can be proven.

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StarJade says: ...who has approached the Jews with a view to an Exodus of Jews from the four corners of the globe.

JrnymnX replies: If what you prophesy comes to pass the Jews will certainly be gnashing their teeth for not having listened to you.

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StarJade says: ...The Jews have waited thousands of years for a Prophet from the Living God to arrive and do just that.

JrnymnX replies: This may be so, but so what?

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StarJade says: ...Deuteronomy law does establish that I am a genuine Prophet

JrnymnX replies: Deuteronomy law does not provide any way to prove the 'genuineness' of a prophet.

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StarJade says: ...with a provable connection to the Living God.

JrnymnX replies: Again, as much as this may be true, it can't be proven.

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StarJade says: ...I have already named more than four witnesses and the law says I only needed two.

JrnymnX replies: The law says you need two to bring an accusation against someone. If being a prophet was a sin or iniquity then these witnesses would have sufficed to bring a charge of being a prophet against you, but being a prophet is not a sin or iniquity.

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Re: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

Reply #196 - 06. Jan 2007 at 15:12

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Quoting yourself can hardly be counted as proof of anything other that what you have said.

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Starjade says: You mean your opinion has not changed for there is no evidence against me. The evidence stands for me and is established by Deuteronomy law. That law is the word of the Living God. It is a positive law.

JrnymnX replies: Again you show the deapth of your religious ignorance. You have no understanding of the difference between a positive law and a negative law. The preponderance of evidence remains against you.

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Starjade says: You are in denial and delusional.

JrnymnX replies: I'm not the one on psychotropic drugs now am I?

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Starjade says: You were in error and should be man enough to admit that fact.

JrnymnX replies: I will happily admit my errors if/when you show them to me. Will you be courageous enough to do the same? History show that you are not...

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Starjade says: Perhaps you think others cannot read and see that you have ignored all the facts presented in a feeble attempt to support your opinions and the mistakes of others to whom you believed and yet they were found also to be making serious errors of Judgment.

JrnymnX replies: I do expect that others can read. Perhaps we should agree on five points of contention, write out short arguements for them and put it to a poll for the denizens of MPG to vote on?

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Re: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

Reply #201 - 07. Jan 2007 at 17:46

Quote from Starjade on 26. Oct 2006 at 07:33:

I am in a position to give Revelations myself

Really?

"But the prophet, which shall presume to speak a word in my name, which I have not commanded him to speak, or that shall speak in the name of other gods, even that prophet shall die."
Deuteronomy 18:20

God seems to believe your mission is to deliver His word, not your own revelations. You cannot "give" revelation yourself. The text is clear on this, you may only bring God's revelations to the people which He speak through you. This, and as the prophecy itself mentions, you shall speak All That He Commands You. Not only are you not allowed to bring forward your own revelations, you also have an obligation to bring all of God's revelations, which he speaks through you, to the people.

Unless you would have people follow your words wether they were spoken through you by God or not, at which point you would be guilty of idolatry, the one jewish law which may never be suspended or altered in any way. Idolatry being the highest of all offenses in Judaism. He who is guilty of idolatry, and he who is guilty of inciting such idolatry, thought blasphemous words, is to be punished, and the sentence is death.

Some jewish communities agree that a prophet or sage may recommend a temporary suspension of certain specific jewish laws. However, no one has ever stated or believed that any prophet could effectively be "left in charge" or, in any way, "replace God." Sadly, you have made this claim, that God had left you in charge, which is also a rather nice combination of blasphemy and inciting idolatry.

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Re: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

Reply #203 - 08. Jan 2007 at 05:46

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:Starjade says: It is you who is insulting me. For not only did I read your posts but I replied to them all word for word. Your opinions and beliefs were not sound thinking as I showed.

JrnymnX replies: You have not shown how my opinions and beliefs were not sound thinking.

Starjade says: Oh yes I have. You said the law of Deuteronomy was a negative law that could not establish that I am that Deuteronomy Prophet from God. Yet I showed you how the law works regarding crimes of iniquity and sin and upon that diligent inquisition before the Lord thy God and the Priests and Kings that live in these times it can be established that I am a Prophet who does have a provable by Deuteronomy law connection to the Living God who has already approached the Jews with details of an ever nearing apocalypse with a view to an Exodus of Jews from the four corners of the globe. The Jews had been waiting for only one specific Prophet to do just that. None of your opinions stood on solid ground. That is the price you pay for trusting in the blabbery of self opinionated Jews you find on the Internet.

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:Starjade says: I wrote back and explained in very simple terms why that law of Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verse 15 onwards is a positive law.

JrnymnX replies: You wrote back and explained that you very much wanted D. 19:15 to be a positive law, but nothing more.

Starjade says: I did no such thing. I have always known Deuteronomy Ch 19 verse 15 onwards is a positive law and would have no reason to state other wise. It is you who claimed the law was a negative and so I showed you how the law of Deuteronomy is used as a clearly positive law. After all it is a law that determines matters of the truth so it could only ever be a positive law.

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Deuteronomy 19:15 One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity, or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth... Perhaps you noticed the word not in this quote. This not is what makes D. 19:15 a negative law. Thats all it can be no matter how much you wish it were otherwise.

Starjade says: The not is a commandment that those who make accusations formed from their shallow beliefs or religious ignorance cannot make such an accusation of their own they need two or three witnesses to make that accusation. One may instigate a belief that some crime has been committed but one person cannot claim his word to have any validity. The word of just one man cannot be accepted as gospel truth. He can say this or that said or did that but he needs two or three to prove it.

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: Starjade says: I can use Deuteronomy law to establish that I am a Prophet with a provable connection to the living God who has already advised the Jews to Exodus from the four corners of the globe and those laws bind the Jews.

JrnymnX replies: Your recommendation that the Jews (who you strangely hate) exodus the four corners of the globe may very well be a good recomendation, but D. law does not establish that you are a prophet.

Starjade says; The Jews had a hand in helping the Crown of England part me from my children and I have seen their corruption and they will pay for that evil deed. I have already pointed out that my claims of being that Deuteronomy Prophet if untrue would be a crime of iniquity and sin. However as I can establish by more than three witnesses that I am a Prophet with a provable connection to the Living God who has already approached the Jews with a view to that Exodus and with a Exodus plan that was so deep it could fry your brain then by diligent inquisition it can be established that my word is true. And you should remind yourself that I am the only person known on this planet who can be proven for a fact to be a Prophet with a provable connection to the Living God so my word is solid gold. And just who thinks that they could then stand against me. So far those who tried all bit the dust. The Jews are waiting for a Prophet from God to gather them up from the four corners of the globe and isn�t it a fact that was my plan.

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: Starjade says: I note that you believed your opinion and the opinion of those you got your opinions from off the internet. Yet I showed you the proof that your and there opinions was mistaken. I backed my mouth up and explained at length as to why you were mistaken and showed you how the law of Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 can establish that I am a Prophet from the Living God.

JrnymnX replies: A widely held opinion can be taken as a level of proof, your singly held position, based on a misrepresentation of the word of the Living God cannot.

Starjade says: An opinion can be listened to and discussed but it must be realised than an opinion is a view and not a fact. Instead of making obscure accusations why not be specific just as I clearly have done. I have not voiced opinion that is your thing and what you do. I voiced Deuteronomy law and facts that represent that law in relation to the Jews. I represent the Laws of the Living God very well it is you who failed in your argument. Or bit the Dust as we say. (tee hee)

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: Starjade says: Clearly I must explain it once again even knowing you will bury your head in the sand and refuse to accept reality and truth when it is handed to you on a platter.

JrnymnX replies: No amount of repition will change the established facts.

Starjade says: I repeated the statement I made as it seemed that you could not grasp the reality of the statement. I still say the same thing but may use simpler wording to help you understand.

JrnymnX replies: It is you who are burying your head in the sand.

Starjade says: Nah I have my head in the clouds and in space and in many religions existing on the face of this Earth. You are the one who has bitten the dust. Your views were shown to be in error.

JrnymnX replies: It is you who refuses to recognize that being a prophet should be good enough for you, that laying claim to a title in a religion you don't ascribe to does little more that detract from your message.

Starjade says: As I have said you fail to grasp why I established I was that specific Deuteronomy Prophet to the Jews who asked me for that evidence they could show to their congregations that could establish that fact and Deuteronomy law binds all the Jews and so that is the perfect way to prove I am that specific Prophet and by the actual word of the living god. I do not have an ego I already know I am a Prophet with unusual paranormal abilities. What I am doing by establishing I am that Deuteronomy Prophet is a practical way of establishing that fact to the congregations so I can mass exodus people out of earthquake zones before those future events unfold.

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JrnymnX replies: It is you who should realize that others must recognize you for what you are while you should go about doing the work that the Living God sent you here to do. It is you who should realize that by not doing so, you are failing in your mission to be a Doomsday Prophet for the Living God.

Starjade says: The International Order of Kabbalists asked me for evidence of who I am to show to their congregations. Nobody told me to go save the Jews. I chose to take that challenge on and fulfil the Living Gods Prophecy even though I clearly was born to do that task it is and always has been my own choice. If the Jews ignore Deuteronomy law and do not want to pay the tax they owe to the Living God or sell of the lands of Israel for larger tracts of lands in Africa and some other things then that is their choice.

It was their choice when they forged the Golden Calf. However, If they do not hearken to me and they break their Covenant with the Living God then they are guilty of Blasphemy and that carries a death sentence a death by stoning. It is therefore also my responsibility to see they are stoned to death for that final act of Blasphemy. I suggest you remind yourself that I am the Deuteronomy Prophet not you and so I know my own work and what I must do under certain circumstances. You must think the Jews are so very special that they can do as they please but you and they are mistaken there are consequences and they will pay dearly for breaking their Covenant and ignoring the word of the Living God.

I have seen at a Time when I was astral travelling outside of this Planet and at a future Time an apocalypse of worldwide earthquakes. Seems little I could do about that or the people who died at that Time. The situation was serious and will cause mass Extinction in fact total extinction.

Then I learned the Jews are waiting for a Prophet from the Living God to come to them and gather them up from the four corners of the globe and lead them to a new land and build a Third Temple to the Living God. This is the Jews religion and beliefs. That specific Prophet they are waiting for is that long awaited Deuteronomy Prophet that the Living God promised Moses he would raise up. So by establishing that I am that specific Prophet I can then gather up those Jews out of those earthquakes zones I have seen at that future Time and lead them all to safety.

It is a fact that cannot be disputed that I have evidence that backs my mouth up in that I am a genuine Prophet with a provable connection to the Living God and I did take the bull by the horns and have already established I am that specific Deuteronomy Prophet when I advised that mass exodus of Jews way back in 1995. I add that had the Jews hearkened to me then they would be led to safety and survival and that final act shows I really was that Deuteronomy Prophet for real. As if there was any doubt.

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Reply #206 - 08. Jan 2007 at 06:15

I remind you also KOS that I am not a Christian. And it was JrnymnX who was the one who got crucified or bit the Dust, as I prefer to say. Clearly KOS you and vampire lovers and Satanists love that cross emblem. Perhaps you think it has significance but if so that is because you believe in Jesus and Christianity, which even with your denial it is clear you portray such symbols as if they had some fact. I suggest you read the beginnings of this thread and see How the New Testament was fabricated. Jesus was a fraud and Jesus was not crucified. It is all just fabricated text.

Oh but then as I recall you bragged you were a Satanist. So you hang your crosses upside down like a rebellious child. So it is understandable why your childish attitude shows through.

Dont forget KOS you could not dispuite what I say so why would you be so foolish as to think JrnymnX could. Do you think he is smarter than you.

You at least used your own studies of the law and other stuff. He went off to get the views of a few others without researching the matter for himself. You know he is going to bite the Dust again and you know that is inevitable.

Now why do you not get a link to this thread and go dare your Rabbi to come online and have a chat. After all you would think he is a know all of the Jews religion. Of course only on the Israelite part of things as most often everyone forgets the Ishmaelites except for the much loved Deuteronomy Doomsday prophet Starjade.

Of course if your rabbi is afraid of religious discusion and debate at such a hard core level well then he can keep his head in the sand we wont care either way will we. But as you bragged that you did some chatting with a Rabbi well then you are missing a golden opertunity arent you. Be warned i will see if he is a fraud by his lack of knowledge of the Jews religion and from the way he would speak.

Or was that talk just you blowing out wind again.

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Re: The Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse.

Reply #207 - 09. Jan 2007 at 20:51

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StarJade said: You said the law of Deuteronomy was a negative law that could not establish that I am that Deuteronomy Prophet from God.

JrnymnX replies: That's because that's what it is.

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StarJade said: Yet I showed you how the law works regarding crimes of iniquity and sin and upon that diligent inquisition before the Lord thy God and the Priests and Kings that live in these times it can be established that I am a Prophet who does have a provable by Deuteronomy law connection to the Living God who has already approached the Jews with details of an ever nearing apocalypse with a view to an Exodus of Jews from the four corners of the globe.

JrnymnX replies: Phew! That's on nasty run on sentence.
You didn't show me anything other than your fanciful interpretation of Jewish law. An interpretation that has no merit or basis in fact.

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StarJade said: None of your opinions stood on solid ground.

JrnymnX replies: All my opinions are on very solid footing, none are based, as yours are, on wishful thinking.

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StarJade said: I have always known Deuteronomy Ch 19 verse 15 onwards is a positive law...

JrnymnX replies: From your earlier posts it is clear that you had no idea until I introduced you to the term that there was a difference between positive laws and negative laws. Your continued insistence that D 19:15 is a positive law shows just how far you have to go in gaining a clear understanding of the distinction between the two.

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StarJade said: After all it is a law that determines matters of the truth so it could only ever be a positive law.

JrnymnX replies: It is not a law that deteremines matters of truth, it is a law about the bring of accusations against another.

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StarJade said: The not is a commandment that those who make accusations formed from their shallow beliefs or religious ignorance cannot make such an accusation of their own they need two or three witnesses to make that accusation. One may instigate a belief that some crime has been committed but one person cannot claim his word to have any validity. The word of just one man cannot be accepted as gospel truth. He can say this or that said or did that but he needs two or three to prove it.

JrnymnX replies: Further evidence that you have misunderstood Devarim 19:15. The requirement for more than one witness to bring charges against another person is to prevent the abuse of the judical system. Nothing more. Two or three witnesses do not establish truth, merely give credence to a claim that some wrong doing has occurred and needs to be investigated.

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StarJade said: I have already pointed out that my claims of being that Deuteronomy Prophet if untrue would be a crime of iniquity and sin.

JrnymnX replies: True, but who would be your judge on this world? Certainly not the Jews, as you are not bound by their law.

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StarJade said: And you should remind yourself that I am the only person known on this planet who can be proven for a fact to be a Prophet with a provable connection to the Living God so my word is solid gold.

JrnymnX replies: You quite obviously cannot prove such a thing, as I have shown before.

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StarJade said: As I have said you fail to grasp why I established I was that specific Deuteronomy Prophet to the Jews...

JrnymnX replies: No. I have grasped that very well. You feel the need to feel good about yourself, so you lay claim to preposterous titles and heap accolades on yourself. If you were worthy of such, the titles and praise would be given you by others, not yourself.

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StarJade said: What I am doing by establishing I am that Deuteronomy Prophet is a practical way of establishing that fact to the congregations so I can mass exodus people out of earthquake zones before those future events unfold.

JrnymnX replies: What you are doing by claiming a title that you cannot hold is causing others to doubt you.

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StarJade said: If the Jews ignore Deuteronomy law and do not want to pay the tax they owe to the Living God...

JrnymnX replies: Now you wish to add a get rich quick scheme to your bag of tricks? For shame, for shame...

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StarJade said: However, If they do not hearken to me and they break their Covenant with the Living God then they are guilty of Blasphemy...

JrnymnX replies: That would not be blasphemy. I suggest you google blasphemy to gain a better understanding of it.

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StarJade said: It is therefore also my responsibility to see they are stoned to death for that final act of Blasphemy.

JrnymnX replies: First, its not blasphemy. Second, you are not a judge over the Jews.

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StarJade said: That specific Prophet they are waiting for is that long awaited Deuteronomy Prophet that the Living God promised Moses he would raise up.

JrnymnX replies: They've already had many who filled that role as promised to Moses.

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StarJade said: It is a fact that cannot be disputed...

JrnymnX replies: So you keep saying, yet here I am, still disputing...

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StarJade said: I add that had the Jews hearkened to me then they would be led to safety and survival and that final act shows I really was that Deuteronomy Prophet for real.

JrnymnX replies: So, if the Jews were to follow you, that would prove you are the Deuteronomy Prophet? But they're not following you are they?

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StarJade said: You even got the blabbery off others on the Internet and quoted their views which were just as shallow.

JrnymnX replies: The Jews have been studying the laws given to them by their God for quite literally thousand of years. Each generation has raised up thousands of experts in the interpretation and application of their laws, with one generation building on the foundations laid by the generation before them. Suddenly you claim to have become an expert in Judaic law that surpasses these tens of thousands of scholarly men who have spent lifetimes pursuing their faith with sincere devote and humility - you who lack both sincerity and humility. And you have accomplished this in considerably less than ten years. Your claim is reckless.

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Reply #208 - Yesterday at 05:10

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JrnymnX blabbered: StarJade says: [Allow me to summarise] Yackle; insults; more insults; more insults; misguided "proofs"; bragging; more misinterpretations; "proof" quoted from his own book (how convincing);

Starjade says: In the first instance I take back, what I said about thinking you had some intelligence. You talk like a retard. Clearly I said something ikkle JrnymnX got miffed about. Now why not ask me if I give a toss. Know the answer is I don�t. And yes I gave some quotes from the Doomsday Book after all just who the hell are you that I should write all that statement out when it is already writ. Now if you are incapable of having a sensible discussion then crawl back into your pathetic silence. At least then you said more.

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JrnymnX blabberewockied: a sidewise admission that he acted on his own volition, not the instructions of God; more yackle (ad nauseum); an accusation directed at me (gasp); more yackle; finishing up with Quote:

Starjade says; yes dumbo the Living God did not say to me go Exodus those Jews. I saw the potential to Exodus those Jews myself when I read Deuteronomy law. The living God already knows what I am like and knew I would go for that Exodus. It�s called Destiny something you are lacking in. The Old Testament told me what must be done because unlike you I have actually read the Old Testament and that is why I am such a know all.

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JrnymnX replies: A lot of yackle in that, but I'll address the last little bit directly:

Starjade says: Yes it is a lot of words that is why I copy cut and pasted it out of my files rather than bother to re write it just for you. So now you suddenly get the point. Well its about Time. There is nothing to address as that is a part of history and a fact regarding the Jews.

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: StarJade says: Without any doubt more than four witnesses can testify that I am a genuine Prophet who is a true Seer of the future...

JrnymnX replies: I've never contested this.

Starjade says: You have done nothing much else but dispute that. Examples grabbed fleetingly. Re: Post # 76 JrnymnX replies: It matters not to me one iota whether you prove, or think you've proved, Jesus and Muhammad to be frauds. It doesn't prove that you are the Deuteronomy Prophet, which I've proved that you are not.

Reply #77 StarJade says: After all you cannot dispute that I am that Deuteronomy Prophet...

JrnymnX replies: That is exactly what I am doing. Reply #83 - JrnymnX replies: Umm, no. For all the many reasons I have given you, and more to come in a future time, you are not the Deuteronomy prophet. You can't be.

Starjade says; You were never in a position to contest this and this is why we all knew you were going to bite the dust in denial of those facts. And you did bite the Dust trying to dispute those facts.

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Reply #209 - Yesterday at 05:11

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: StarJade says: ...who does have a provable connection to the living God...

JrnymnX replies: As the existence of God cannot be empirically proven, no connection to said 'living God' can be proven.

Starjade says: There is only one God and that is the Living White Sphere which is the Living God. Now nobody gives a toss wither you believe in God or not. The fact is the Jews do believe in the Living God and they waited for a Prophet to come from the living God to gather them up from the four corners of the globe and all of my staggering Revelations are with regards to the Jews and the Prophecy given to them by Moses as given to him by the Living God. I do not need to prove that the Living God exists to you as the Jews already believe in the Living God and so that is not necessary. Be sure I can prove the Living God does exist in fact the fulfilment of the Living Gods Prophecy should give you a clue just how easy that would be.

Hey do not forget you and others are fool enough to not believe that I could be proven to be a Prophet with a provable connection to the Living God and yet before your eyes, that is something I clearly can prove and by Deuteronomy law. That�s a religious law of the Jews by the way in case you fell asleep.

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: StarJade says: ...who has approached the Jews with a view to an Exodus of Jews from the four corners of the globe.

JrnymnX replies: If what you prophesy comes to pass the Jews will certainly be gnashing their teeth for not having listened to you.

Starjade says: The Jews did listen to me but my plans to sell off the lands of Israel for larger land in Africa and in demanding the tax they owe to the Living God and in my insistence they build the Third Temple in Africa and sell off the lands of Israel for larger tracts of lands in Africa and making peace with the descendants of Ishmael went way too far over the top for the Jew. They had their own plans and would not hearken to my Exodus plans. To the point they preferred to break their Covenant with the Living God. Consider the illogical behaviour of the complacent Jews. And I mean of all tribes of Abraham. I saw that apocalypse of earthquakes and so I know what went down on that fated day and so I know what is best for those people and they do not. The Jews are going to gnash their teeth in horror just before they are going to die.

I further add by the way regarding the tax owed by the Jews. I have to demand that tax for the Living God taxed them of first born man and beast. They belong to the Living God. It wasn�t just about the money although that Exodus would be expensive.

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: StarJade says: ...The Jews have waited thousands of years for a Prophet from the Living God to arrive and do just that.

JrnymnX replies: This may be so, but so what?

Starjade says: So when it is established by the law of Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 a law that binds all Jews that I am a Prophet with a provable connection to the Living God with a plan for that Exodus then they must comply. If they do that means I would mass Exodus them out of all the worlds earthquake zones that I saw destroyed at that future Time. It is there only chance of Survival before that Time by Exodussing those grave regions. That�s what.

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