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Reply #75 - Yesterday at 07:23

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StarJade says: Something about the Angel Gabriel

 
JrnymnX replies:  Whaaaaaat?  
 
Starjade says:  Where did you get the quote from then as recently I have been speaking a lot of the (cough) imaginary angel Gabriel.  John the Baptist and Jesus were all proclaimed into existence by the use of that very specific Angel Gabriel and Mad Muhammad and the Koran were all proclaimed into existence using the (cough) Angel Gabriel.  That is how they gave authenticity to their claims coming from God.  However Gabriel originated in a dream Denial had whiles in a deep sleep.  Daniel described a man not any angel.  Only the Character Luke makes claims of an Angel called Gabriel so he could make it appear that the character Jesus had some form of divinity.  The matter was being spoken of in the did Jesus exist thread.  If you think Jesus and Mad Muhammad are genuine in their claims then why not speak of this Angel Gabriel.  Everyone else goes quiet.    

 

 

 

 


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Reply #76 - Yesterday at 07:40

 

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StarJade says: Muhammad and Jesus are both proclaiming themselves to being that very specific Deuteronomy Prophet when Deuteronomy law and the Deuteronomy Prophecy already says that is simply not possible.

 
 
JrnymnX replies: How does Deuteronomy law and the Deuteronomy Prophecy make it not possible for Muhammad and Jesus to be the prophet foretold of in Deuteronomy?  
 
Starjade says:  In Deuteronomy law Ch 19 v 15 you need two or three witnesses to prove a thing is true and Jesus and Muhammad do not have any witnesses to their claims.  Neither fulfilled or could have fulfilled the Deuteronomy Prophecy or appeared at a Time when all those Prophesied signs in the heavens appeared in conjunction with each other.  They are both frauds.  
 
 
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StarJade says: Why do you not attempt to explain away this matter of the Angel Gabriel first after all it all began with that proclamation wether you are a Muslim or a Christian.

 
 
JrnymnX replies: Because I have no idea what you are writing about.  
 
Starjade says:  Ah that began in a debate about Jesus whiles I was speaking with James on the does Jesus exist thread.  http://www.madphilosophers.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?num=1138109097/405  It continued on for a few pages then ole Christian James went silent as do all Christians and Muslims.  It is a good read.  The origin of the Angel Gabriel and how it was introduced by the character Luke into the New Testament by those blaspheming Romans.  That is the tale of Jesus biting the Dust right there.  

 

 

 

 


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Reply #77 - Yesterday at 07:59

 

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StarJade says: Explain also if you can how they could gather up those Jews from the four corners of the globe when Jesus or Muhammad were claimed to have lived.

 
 
JrnymnX replies: Am I correct in guessing that this is a linking of the prophecy from Isaiah and Deuteronomy?  Why are these two prophecies linked in such a way?  Why do you think that the prophet foretold of in Deuteronomy will be the instrument used by god to gather up the Jewish people from the four corners of the globe?  Is there something else in Isaiah that mentions that it will be a prophet that does this gathering?  Also, it was prophesied that Jesus would come again, maybe if there is a link between these two prophesies that's when he'll gather up the Jews.  He might be a little more successful than you were at the task, he is after all a Jew and they might listen to him.  
 
Starjade says: Isaiah was speaking of the End of Times.  The living God already said he was going to send along a Prophet.  I suggest before you brag for Jesus you examine the thread of the origin of the Angel Gabriel where it was already established Jesus is a fraud and I do laugh at Christians who are led to believe different.  Jesus is not mentioned in the Old Testament.  Not by Isaiah or anyone else.  
 
Scan down the page 28 and it follows onto other pages.:    http://www.madphilosophers.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?num=1138109097/405  
 
 
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StarJade says: I am the only Prophet who has come from the living God who has ordered that mass exodus of Jews and at a Time when they are all scattered to the four corners of the globe...

 
 
JrnymnX replies: So far...  
 
Starjade says:  It is too late for any Prophet to appear to claim they are that specific Deuteronomy prophet.  I am already established as being that specific Prophet and by Deuteronomy law. The apocalypse is nearly upon this Planet.  Those many signs in the heavens are passed by now and will not be returning in conjunction with each other ever again.  http://www.geocities.com/end_of_times/chapterfour.htm  And all the false pretenders to my Throne from the past have bitten the Dust.  
 
 
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StarJade says: I did that at a Time when all the Prophesied signs in the heavens appeared in conjunction with each other.

 
 
JrnymnX replies: Which signs are these you are talking about?  I don't recall hearing you mention these before.  Where are these signs mentioned?  
 
Starjade says:  Ah groundhog day.  This question just rolled onto the screen.  Many Prophets have prophesied as to when that Deuteronomy prophet would appear and it was said there would be many signs in the heavens.  I thought you had said you had visitied the End of Times web site.  The many Prophesied signs in the heavens did get a mention.  Of course there are more Prophesied signs but I did not want to mention them all.  Many people are guided and look for signs and Omens.  There is more to backing up my mouth than Deuteronomy laws you know.  There is also my acts and deeds.  Here is a link to the many prophesied signs in the heavens.  http://www.geocities.com/end_of_times/chapterfour.htm    
 
 
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StarJade says: I used fact and religious law not just an opinion and it is not justifiable for anyone to simple disregard those facts presented.


 
JrnymnX replies: I believe it is justified when those facts have been misrepresented.  
 
Starjade says:  They have not been misrepresented by me.  You denying those facts does not alter the truth of those statements.  
 
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StarJade says: The religious statements I have made are solid as a rock...

 
 
JrnymnX replies: Sometimes rock flows like water.
 
Starjade says:  Something solid as a rock is not flowing like water only like the flowing words of the Deuteronomy Prophet Starjade.  
 
 
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StarJade says: After all you cannot dispute that I am that Deuteronomy Prophet...

 
 
JrnymnX replies: That is exactly what I am doing.  
 
Starjade says:  yes but you are not winning or establishing that I am not who I am.  You raise points that are based on your opinions of what you interpret a thing says when in fact what that thing says is something other than what you voice in your opinion.  You are not proving outright for a fact that I am not that Deuteronomy Prophet.  All the evidence shows I am who I say I am.  

 

 

 

 


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Reply #78 - Yesterday at 08:21

 

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Starjade says: I am prepared to back my mouth up on those issues using what you accept as being genuine original Jewish text. After all they are the people in question and it is their religion. I did reply to you an answer but it appears you just discounted it without accepting the obvious and final conclusions to the reality of that text.

 
 
JrnymnX replies:  At that time you accused the Jewish text of being a christian interpretation, what point was there in further discussion if you don't accept the source of the text as being valid.  
 
Starjade says:  I did still replied an answer using the very text you used.  So you could have replied.  
 
 
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StarJade says: (Quoting JrnymnX) 15 The Lord your God will raise up for you a prophet from among your own people, like myself; him you shall heed. (StarJade's response) Right then according to that statement the Jews have no choice in the matter and if they ignore the word of God then they are guilty of blasphemy and must be stoned to death in accordance with Blasphemy laws.

 
 
JrnymnX:  That is not what that verse says at all.  That verse talks about the origins of the prophet, not about the punishment for blasphemy.  
 
Styarjade says:  I grew up among the Jews.  The living God said to him you should heed.  I can tell you for a fact the Jews broke their Covenant with the living God. They did not like my plans to sell off their lands of Israel for larger tracts of land in Africa or in building that Third Temple in Africa or in the paying of that tax they owe to the living God.  They therefore are guilty of blasphemy and will be stoned to their deaths.  
 
 
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StarJade says: It states openly and clearly ( from among your own people )...It does not say that Prophet will be a Jew in that passage does it.

 
 
JrnymnX replies:  Why should it.  When a jury selects a foreman from among them, it is understood that the foreman will be a member of the jury, not someone who happens to be loafing among them.  When a person is chosen from a group of people, the person must first belong to that froup, or they cannot be chosen.  Chosing a person from among the Jews would necessarily make that person a Jew.  This is the only valid interpretation.  
 
Starjade says:  You said he would be a Jew.  It does not say he would be a Jew.  So admit that error in your word.  There were always alien residents living among the Jews so it is still an assumption that this Prophet would be a Jew especially when it says he would be raised up in the midst of those Jews.  
 
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StarJade says: At no time does it say that specific Prophet would be a Jew only that he would be raised up amongst them.

 
 
JrnymnX replies: No, it says the prophet would be raised up from among them, not raised up among them.  The 'from' means the prophet will be a member of their group, not someone who is accidentally present.    
 
Starjade says:  That is your assumption.  Alien residents live amongst the Jews and what a petty point to bring up to someone who can be established by Deuteronomy law to be a Prophet with a provable connection to the living God.  So I am not an ordinary alien resident.  The Jews can cry baby all they want and stomp their feet and insist they want a Jew but be warned I do not plan to save them anymore and their words will be wasted space.  Considering all the fantastic evidence I have shown to the Jews regarding my being that Deuteronomy Prophet is most petty to turn around and say no we want a Jew.  Well the fact is the Jews are not worthy.  
 
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StarJade says: And if those Jews do not listen then they are standing against their own religion and that is an act of Blasphemy isn�t that also a fact. Blasphemy carries a death sentence a death by stoning. I can stone every Jew on earth to their deaths and it is expected that I would obey the will of the living God on that matter of the Jews Blasphemy.

 
 
JrnymnX replies: You are not the Deuteronomy prophet, so its not blasphemy.  Even if you were (which you're not) rejecting you wouldn't be blasphemy.  You have no authority over the Jews, and as one who rejects their religion would not be entitled to carry out any religious sentence against them.  You would be judged by British law, which I'm fairly certain frowns upon stoning innocent people.  
 
Starjade says:  You do not carry the authority to Judge me and say I am this or that Prophet.  The law of Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 already established that I am a Prophet with a provable connection to the living God.  Those sorts of people do not pass by every day.  The Jews are waiting for a Prophet from God to come and gather them up from the four corners of the globe.  
 
Perhaps you forget that the living God said to him you should hearken and as they are waiting for me to come as their ruling King and to me they should hearken then I have absolute authority over the Jews.  And if they do not hearken then be certain I will see they are stoned to death in earthquake rubble.  I have not rejected the Jews religion but am enforcing it.  I can stone people to death in earthquake rubble and they certainly will die in their millions.  The Crown of England also has a death sentence on it and it had better pray that I do not get power over those Muslims because religious assassins will be most useful to me in exacting Gods will on earth.  
 
 
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StarJade says: Now come on sneaky JrnymnX you are not showing any quotes of that saying that...we want a link now for that specific statement.

 
 
JrnymnX replies:  If you would be so kind as to provide the link to the thread from which you are quoting this I will attempt to retrieve the link. I will respond to the rest of your comments later.
 
Starjade says:  You keep saying the Bible says this or that and yet not making any chapter and verse quotes so we can all go look up that chapter and verse and see what was really said and why.  

 

 

 

 


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Reply #79 - Yesterday at 13:39

 

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StarJade says:  More stuff about the angel Gabriel
 
JrnymnX replies:  I still don't understand what your problem is with the angel Gabriel.  Do you think he's not an angel and should have been dead by the time of Jesus and Muhammad?  Do you think it odd that he is only mentioned briefly in the accounts of Jesus and Muhammad?  I don't understand.  undecided

 

 


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Reply #80 - Yesterday at 13:53

 

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The planet was still here and was covered by the dust by that pyroclastic flow suffocating the planets oxygen breathing population. I did not say the planet was destroyed by fire. Clearly vast fires will break out but as oxygen depletes from the atmosphere the Dust will put them out.


 
JrnymnX replies:  If the 'pyroclastic flow' suffocates the planets oxygen breathing population, the planet will be destroyed, as far as humanity is concerned, the same way it was destoyed by water in the bible myth of the flood.  Its called a metaphor.
 
Just so you can poke fun at the verse and book this destruction by fire is prophesied of in 2 Peter 3  
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5 They deliberately ignore the fact that the heavens existed of old and earth was formed out of water and through water by the word of God;
6 through these the world that then existed was destroyed, deluged with water.
7 The present heavens and earth have been reserved by the same word for fire, kept for the day of judgment and of destruction of the godless.
8 But do not ignore this one fact, beloved, that with the Lord one day is like a thousand years and a thousand years like one day.
9 The Lord does not delay his promise, as some regard "delay," but he is patient with you, not wishing that any should perish but that all should come to repentance.
10 But the day of the Lord will come like a thief, 8 and then the heavens will pass away with a mighty roar and the elements will be dissolved by fire, and the earth and everything done on it will be found out.

 

 


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Reply #81 - Yesterday at 14:34

 

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Starjade says: ... As long as Jews live on earth then it is and was possible for that Prophet to be raised up. However, one must take consideration to the Time it took for all Jews to be dispersed to the four corners of the globe. That took much time and under most harrowing circumstances. Then just as the Prophecy stated it is clear that neither Jesus or Muhammad could have been that specific Deuteronomy Prophet.

 
 
JrnymnX replies:  Funny that you capitalize the 'P' on prophet.  Very King James of you.  Here's one thing I don't understand: you claim that christianity is a fraud, then use a christian text to support your argument of being 'the' Deuteronomy prophet.  Don't you see a contradiction here?  Why not use the Jewish text?  If you ignore the rest, answer this one.
 
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Starjade says: The Prophecy of the End of Times was that the Jews would be scattered to the four corners of the globe. That is why it is said that Prophet would gather them up from the four corners of the globe.

 
 
JrnymnX replies:  All well and good, but you still haven't established that the End of Times Prophet (which you may be able to lay claim to, afaik) is the same as the Deuteronomy Prophet, which as we shall see isn't what you think it is.
 
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Starjade says: I am the Lord King and a King of Kings. A servant of the living God. Isaiah was speaking of those end of times. Did you think that the living God is going to come here in person when he can send in his forces to do his bidding. Just as the living God had already Prophesied.


 
JrnymnX replies:  Still, no link between Isaiah and Deuteronomy.

 

 

 


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Reply #82 - Yesterday at 14:44

 

Re: Post #73
 
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Starjade says: Yes we have been down this road before and I have travelled that road more often than you. I have made some very serious claims that many do consider to be blasphemy which is a crime of iniquity or sin. Yet upon investigation under Deuteronomy law two or three witnesses are need to establish the truth one way or another. I named more than four witnesses.


 
JrnymnX replies:  As has been established so many times in the past - you are not a Jew.  You are not subject to Jewish law.  What ever a law in Deuteronomy says is completely without relevance to you, because ... you ... are...not...a...jew.
 
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You cannot name any witnesses for Jesus or Mad Muhammad in their claims for they have no witnesses. I have many witnesses who can establish that I am a Prophet who does have a provable connection to the living God and who has already contacted the Jews with a view to an Exodus of Jews from the four corners of the globe.


 
JrnymnX replies:  Why would I want to support either Jesus or Muhammad?
 
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What other credentials do you think would be needed to establish that I am that Deuteronomy Prophet sent by the living God. So clearly as I am not guilty of any crime of iniquity or sin then all of my words and claims are established as being true.


 
JrnymnX replies:  Other credentials?  Well, first off, you'd have to be a Jew, which you aren't.
 
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The law of Deuteronomy establishes my words and my claims and statements are all true. I am not in any way guilty of any crime of iniquity or sin and this is established by Deuteronomy law along with the fact that I am a Prophet with a provable connection to the living God.


 
JrnymnX replies:  Even though Deuteronomy laws don't apply to you I will still rebutt this.  The law you reference doe not establish truth, so it can't prove anything about you or any other person.

 

 

 

 


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Reply #83 - Yesterday at 15:15

 

Re: Post # 74
 
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JrnymnX replies: The conclusion I have reach were contained in the pervious post, as well as many others. There is no need to assume my thoughts, they are well represented.

Starjade says: And I have answered you on all those matters already.


 
JrnymnX replies:  And I still do not accept your answers.  They are based on an incomplete understanding.  
 
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Starjade says: Those religious scholars were disputing my claims however they found that was an impossible task just as you will.

 
 
JrnymnX replies: Are you sure they just didn't give up because you wouldn't listen to them?
 
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Starjade says:...They all doubted me and we had a very hardcore religious debate as the result of that dispute. However, they found that what they thought is not the same as what actually is and the truth was they could not dispute my claims much to a great gnashing of teeth on their part. I am simply pointing out that others from varying religions all very religiously knowledgeable all tried to dispute the claims I had made and found they could not. You cannot either but like them you are happy to try.


 
JrnymnX replies: I have already disputed your claims.  Just becasue you refuse to see the truth that they are unfounded, doesn't mean they are not.
 
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Starjade says: Trust in me JrnymnX it is a known fact already and an established fact that I am that specific Deuteronomy Ch 18 v 15/18 Prophet that the living God promised Moses he would raise up. That very specific Prophet. That is who I am established by Deuteronomy law to be. That specific long awaited Deuteronomy Prophet.


 
JrnymnX replies:  Umm, no.  For all the many reasons I have given you, and more to come in a future time, you are not the Deuteronomy porphet.  You can't be.
 
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What is more I gave that evidence that proved I am that specific Prophet to the Jews with serious plans for a mass Exodus of Jews from the four corners of the globe way back in 1995/96. I have already fulfilled that specific Deuteronomy Prophecy. And I was then and still am now prepared to defend my Crown.


 
JrnymnX replies:  Here you go again, linking two disparate prophesies.  You have provided no evidence that the prophet foretold of in Isaiah is in any way linked with the prophet mentioned in Deuteronomy.  The prophet of Deuteronomy was to be like Moses.

 

 

 


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Reply #84 - Yesterday at 15:46

 

Re: Post # 76
 
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JrnymnX replies: How does Deuteronomy law and the Deuteronomy Prophecy make it not possible for Muhammad and Jesus to be the prophet foretold of in Deuteronomy?

Starjade says: In Deuteronomy law Ch 19 v 15 you need two or three witnesses to prove a thing is true and Jesus and Muhammad do not have any witnesses to their claims. Neither fulfilled or could have fulfilled the Deuteronomy Prophecy or appeared at a Time when all those Prophesied signs in the heavens appeared in conjunction with each other. They are both frauds.


 
JrnymnX replies:  According to Jewish law, Deuteronomy 19:15 means not what you claim it to mean.  You claim it is about establishing truth.  According to Jewish law, Deuteronomy !9:15 means you can't convict someone on the testimony of only one witness.  It is also consider to be a 'negative law, which simply put means you can't do something with it by its application (i.e. prove truth), you can only deny something (i.e. convict a defendant).  I hope this clears it up for you.
 
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StarJade says: Why do you not attempt to explain away this matter of the Angel Gabriel first after all it all began with that proclamation wether you are a Muslim or a Christian.

 
 
JrnymnX replies: Because I have no idea what you are writing about.  
 
Starjade says:  Ah that began in a debate about Jesus whiles I was speaking with James on the does Jesus exist thread.  http://www.madphilosophers.com/cgi-bin/YaBB.cgi?num=1138109097/405  It continued on for a few pages then ole Christian James went silent as do all Christians and Muslims.  It is a good read.  The origin of the Angel Gabriel and how it was introduced by the character Luke into the New Testament by those blaspheming Romans.  That is the tale of Jesus biting the Dust right there.   [/quote]
 
JrnymnX replies:  It matters not to me one iota whether you prove, or think you've proved, Jesus and Muhammad to be frauds.  It doesn't prove that you are the Deuteronomy Prophet, which I've proved that you are not.

 

 

 

 


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Reply #85 - Yesterday at 16:04

 

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Starjade says: I did still replied an answer using the very text you used. So you could have replied.


 
JrnymnX replies:  My apologies.  But you must admit sometimes the threads you post in move along quite fast.  It is often difficult to keep up.
 
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Styarjade says: I grew up among the Jews. The living God said to him you should heed. I can tell you for a fact the Jews broke their Covenant with the living God. They did not like my plans to sell off their lands of Israel for larger tracts of land in Africa or in building that Third Temple in Africa or in the paying of that tax they owe to the living God. They therefore are guilty of blasphemy and will be stoned to their deaths.


 
JrnymnX replies:  That's a little disjointed.
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blas‧phe‧my
1. impious utterance or action concerning God or sacred things.
2. Judaism.
a. an act of cursing or reviling God.
b. pronunciation of the Tetragrammaton (YHVH) in the original, now forbidden manner instead of using a substitute pronunciation such as Adonai.
3. Theology. the crime of assuming to oneself the rights or qualities of God.


Using the above definition of blasphemy, lifted from dictionary.com, please explain how the Jews commited blasphemy.
 
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Starjade says: You said he would be a Jew. It does not say he would be a Jew. So admit that error in your word. There were always alien residents living among the Jews so it is still an assumption that this Prophet would be a Jew especially when it says he would be raised up in the midst of those Jews.


 
JrnymnX replies:  Before this can be addressed you must make clear to me that you understand what it means to be an 'alien resident' accordinig to the Jews.  No nonsense about being from outerspace, but a serious answer that you understand what it means to be an alien resident.
 
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StarJade says: At no time does it say that specific Prophet would be a Jew only that he would be raised up amongst them.

 
 
JrnymnX replies:  At no time does it say the prophet would not be a Jew.
   
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StarJade says: And if those Jews do not listen then they are standing against their own religion and that is an act of Blasphemy isn�t that also a fact. Blasphemy carries a death sentence a death by stoning. I can stone every Jew on earth to their deaths and it is expected that I would obey the will of the living God on that matter of the Jews Blasphemy.

 
 
JrnymnX replies:  You have no standing in their religion.  You have no authority to make interpretations or pronouncements, nor carry out any sentences.  Further, according to Jewish law (see above) not following a prophet is not blasphemy.

 

 

 


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Reply #86 - Yesterday at 16:42

 

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Starjade says: Isaiah was speaking of the End of Times. The living God already said he was going to send along a Prophet.

 
 
JrnymnX replies:  I know Isaiah was speaking of the End of Times, you haven't made any mention how this relates to Deuteronomy.
 
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Starjade says: I suggest before you brag for Jesus you examine the thread of the origin of the Angel Gabriel where it was already established Jesus is a fraud and I do laugh at Christians who are led to believe different.

 
 
JrnymnX replies:  Where am I braggin for Jesus?  What does Gabriel have to do with you?
 
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Starjade says: Jesus is not mentioned in the Old Testament. Not by Isaiah or anyone else.


 
JrnymnX replies:  Neither are you.
 
Starjade says:  Ah groundhog day.  This question just rolled onto the screen.  Many Prophets have prophesied as to when that Deuteronomy prophet would appear and it was said there would be many signs in the heavens.  I thought you had said you had visitied the End of Times web site.  The many Prophesied signs in the heavens did get a mention.  Of course there are more Prophesied signs but I did not want to mention them all.  Many people are guided and look for signs and Omens.  There is more to backing up my mouth than Deuteronomy laws you know.  There is also my acts and deeds.  Here is a link to the many prophesied signs in the heavens.  http://www.geocities.com/end_of_times/chapterfour.htm    
 
JrnymnX replies:  Where are these signs mentioned in the Bible?  You claim a position based on the Bible, where does it say there will be signs predicting 'the Deuteronomy Prophet?'
 
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Starjade says: They have not been misrepresented by me. You denying those facts does not alter the truth of those statements.


 
JrnymnX replies:  Yes they have been misrepresented by you.  You have an incomplete understanding of  Judaism.  You misconstrue the meaning of Judaic Law.  You link disparate prophecies.  I have not denied any fact, merely attempted to show you that the interpretation you base your cliam to being the 'Deuteronomy Prophet' on is flawed.
 
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Starjade says: yes but you are not winning or establishing that I am not who I am. You raise points that are based on your opinions of what you interpret a thing says when in fact what that thing says is something other than what you voice in your opinion. You are not proving outright for a fact that I am not that Deuteronomy Prophet. All the evidence shows I am who I say I am.


 
JrnymnX replies:  Many of my points are based on Jewish interpretation or Jewish tradition, not my opinion.  The evidence that I have given you up till now should be sufficient to have proven that you are wrong in your belief that you are the prophet spoken of in Deuteronomy.  Further all the evidence you claim proves you to be the Deuteronomy prophet has been either grossly misinterpreted, or is based not on a Jewish interpretation, but on christian interpretation.  As one who believes that christianity is bunk, why do you base your claims on their false interpretation of Judaism?

 

 

   


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Reply #87 - Yesterday at 17:13

 

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You [Starjade] have an incomplete understanding of Judaism. You misconstrue the meaning of Judaic Law. You link disparate prophecies. I have not denied any fact, merely attempted to show you that the interpretation you base your cliam to being the 'Deuteronomy Prophet' on is flawed.


 
And a fine job youve done there, Jrnymnx.  There is no rock left for SJ to hide undr.
 
Starjade, forget about Deuteronomy.  Forget about the Jews, forget about Christians and Muslims.  If your vision is veridical, we are still heading for global disastr.  Why not spend your time telling people about that vision itself, and why you think it is true, givn that youve had witnesses before.  Then, if youre serious about saving mankind, get off yo ass and make the biodome happn.  Maybe people will listn to you if you drop the religious blabbrwockying and start talkin' sense!
 
Let us know when the biodome groundbreaking is.
 
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Reply #88 - Today at 04:53

 

My computer times are not as they used to be.  So I save data to disc and will reply later.  Please have some patience.  
 
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You [Starjade] have an incomplete understanding of Judaism. You misconstrue the meaning of Judaic Law. You link disparate prophecies. I have not denied any fact, merely attempted to show you that the interpretation you base your cliam to being the 'Deuteronomy Prophet' on is flawed.

 

 
 
Phlogistatron you said:  And a fine job youve done there, Jrnymnx.  There is no rock left for SJ to hide undr.  
 
Starjade says:  Keep it up Phlogistatron he is going to need all the encouragement in the world but it will make no difference to the outcome Starjades word will still shine through.  I do not hide under rocks Phlogistatron or have you forgotten I am the challenger.  
 
Phlogistatron you said:  Starjade, forget about Deuteronomy.  Forget about the Jews, forget about Christians and Muslims.  
 
Starjade says:  They are already forgotten and as insignificant as the stench of gnats piss on a summers day.  I am just making it certain that they will never ever forget the days of my visitation.  
 
Phlogistatron you said:  If your vision is veridical, we are still heading for global disastr.  
 
Starjade says:  I was not having any vision but saw that apocalyptic event whiles astral travelling in the future.  That apocalyptic days grows all the more closer.  You will all suddenly become concerned then wont you all.  
 
Phlogistatron you said:  Why not spend your time telling people about that vision itself, and why you think it is true, givn that youve had witnesses before.  
 
Starjade says:  I am an expert on many major religions and I am busy exposing those false pretenders to my Throne.  I do on occasion speak of that apocalypse in fact just recently did here.  But people are not interested in that but do want to chat in the futile defence of the false pretenders to my throne Mad Muhammad and Jesus.  So in fact I am doing all those things.  
 
Phlogistatron you said:  Then, if youre serious about saving mankind, get off yo ass and make the biodome happn.  
 
Starjade says:  I have no interest in building a biosphere at this Time.  It is not that important to me.  I was during 1995 and beyond 2000 interested in the Exodus and in the saving of peoples lives but now my eyes are open and I see this planet in a different light.  
 
Phlogistatron you said:   Maybe people will listn to you if you drop the religious blabbrwockying and start talkin' sense!  
 
Starjade says:  On other forums I write on just one thread can be read by over 7000 people.  So people are listening and considering I have Christianity and Islam by the short and curlies in today�s world where wars from those religions are rife then these things are of great interest especially to opposing religions.  
 
Phlogistatron you said:  Let us know when the biodome groundbreaking is.  
 
Starjade says:  See that is what I mean.  You say forget Deuteronomy and forget the Jews and forget Christians and Muslims.  Yet then say build the Biosphere. You cannot seem to see they are all the one conversation and without those things then what is the point of that biosphere.  
 
At least i have you using those big words like blabberwockying  Smiley its a good one isnt it.  Grin
 
 

 

 

 


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Reply #89 - Today at 04:55


 
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JrnymnX you said: That law establishes no such thing, as has been repeatedly shown to you. Furthermore, you do not meet the qualifications necessary to be the Deuteronomy prophet.

 
 
Starjade says:  The Deuteronomy law Ch 19 v 15 does establish that I am a genuine Prophet with a provable connection to the living God.  The Deuteronomy Prophecy of Ch 18 v 15/18 states that the living God will raise up a Prophet in the midst of the Jews.  The Jews have been waiting for that specific Prophet ever since.  I am the only Prophet with a provable connection to the living God to approach the Jews quoting Deuteronomy law that can establish that I am a genuine Prophet with a provable connection to the living god giving them details of a future apocalypse with a view to an Exodus of Jews from the four corners of the globe.    
 
The only qualifications I need are to be a Prophet from the living God.  But trust in me my Exodus plans that I gave to the Jews were very extensive.  I am over qualified and the perfect man for that specific task.  I really did think of everything and very deeply.  I am good at what I do and my plans included all the descendants of Abraham.  The descendants of Israel were not too fond of the idea of making piece with the Arabs their Ishmaelite brethren.  But I was the one who could accomplish that task.  After all their Islamic religion has already bitten, the dust and I can use Islamic law to convert them from that blasphemy of worshipping the pagan moon god Hubal al�ilah.  It wasn�t any problem to me but the Jews showed reluctance to comply.  
 
Starjade says:  Remember that the International Order of Kabbalists wanted proof of my Crown and proof that I was the Deuteronomy Prophet from God that I said I was.  They did ask what evidence I could show to their Jewish congregations that could establish that I was a genuine.  What supports that claim?  After all, it is a big deal for every Jew to suddenly mass Exodus from the four corners of the globe after this planet stood by as they were all gassed and acid bathed to their deaths.  They had all settled down in the four corners of the globe since that horror was inflicted upon them.  So they needed evidence to back up my claim to show to their congregations to convince them to Exodus.  I certainly blew their minds when I showed them that I did have that evidence and it is established by Deuteronomy law that binds the Jews
   
The purpose of that Deuteronomy chapter 19 verse 15 law is that it can establish matters of the truth especially with regards to crimes of iniquity and sin.  Upon investigation, it can be established that I am a genuine Prophet with a provable connection to the living God.  http://www.geocities.com/end_of_times/chaptertwo.htm   The Jews are waiting for such a prophet to come and gather them up from the four corners of the globe.    

 

 

 

 


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