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Reply #120 - 29. Nov 2006 at 08:00

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Starjade says: Ah groundhog day. This question just rolled onto the screen. Many Prophets have prophesied as to when that Deuteronomy prophet would appear and it was said there would be many signs in the heavens. I thought you had said you had visited the End of Times web site. The many Prophesied signs in the heavens did get a mention. Of course there are more Prophesied signs but I did not want to mention them all. Many people are guided and look for signs and Omens. There is more to backing up my mouth than Deuteronomy laws you know. There is also my acts and deeds. Here is a link to the many prophesied signs in the heavens. http://www.geocities.com/end_of_times/chapterfour.htm

JrnymnX you said: Where are these signs mentioned in the Bible? You claim a position based on the Bible, where does it say there will be signs predicting 'the Deuteronomy Prophet?'

Starjade says: I have already established who I am using just Deuteronomy law. I do not need anything else. But Prophets did come along saying there would be signs in the heavens. I did give you a link. However, anyone can tap out the many signs in the heavens written on the Internet by many people. One of my favorites was said by the naked unicorn believer the Prophet Isaiah who said in Chapter 13 verse 9: Look the day of Jehovah is coming cruel both with fury and with burning anger. In order to make the land an object of astonishment and that it may annihilate the lands Sinners out of it.

Verse 10: For the very Stars of the heavens and their constellations of Kesil will not flash forth their light. The Sun will grow dark at its going forth and the Moon itself will not cause its light to shine.

Starjade says: I sat for almost 5 hours or so when the light from the sun did not shine on the moon and I had put down letters I was writing to the International Order of Kabbalists to watch that event. I had never seen that before what a mind snapper. I cannot deny that Isaiah was a prophet because he got that spot on. I liked the virgin (Virgo) giving birth to the sun as well.

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Reply #121 - 29. Nov 2006 at 08:00

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Starjade says: They have not been misrepresented by me. You denying those facts does not alter the truth of those statements.

JrnymnX you said: Yes they have been misrepresented by you. You have an incomplete understanding of Judaism.

Starjade says: Nothing is misrepresented by me. I read 600 years of history of the Jews and so I did know a lot about those Jewish people. My understanding of them does not need to be so comprehensive I was just curious. All I needed to know about them was the Covenant the Living God had with them and Deuteronomy law and of the waiting for the Prophet to gather them up from the four corners of the globe. What else would I need to know, by the Time the Exodus project was completed I would be dead and just a memory of the days of my visitation.

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JrnymnX you said: You misconstrue the meaning of Judaic Law.

Starjade says: I quote Deuteronomy law to its letter and there is no error in my words. You just did not like the outcome of the facts the law can establish. Deuteronomy 19:18 And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother;

Deuteronomy 19:19 Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.

When that diligent inquisition is made consider what would be revealed.
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JrnymnX you said: You link disparate prophecies.

Starjade says: No I do not. You just do not give me Time to reply and explain. I have explained It now though.

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JrnymnX you said: I have not denied any fact, merely attempted to show you that the interpretation you base your claim to being the 'Deuteronomy Prophet' on is flawed.

Starjade says: As you can see I can back my mouth up and show you that my words are far from being flawed, upon diligent inquisition my words can be established as being true.

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Reply #122 - 29. Nov 2006 at 08:01

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Starjade says: yes but you are not winning or establishing that I am not who I am. You raise points that are based on your opinions of what you interpret a thing says when in fact what that thing says is something other than what you voice in your opinion. You are not proving outright for a fact that I am not that Deuteronomy Prophet. All the evidence shows I am who I say I am.

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JrnymnX says: Many of my points are based on Jewish interpretation or Jewish tradition, not my opinion.

Starjade says: Forget the Jews and their opinions and interpretations and traditions. Concentrate on their Jewish laws. Jewish law binds all the Jews. Nobody was asking the Jews for their opinions. It is what the living God says that counts and the Jews place is to obey the will of the living God. Deuteronomy law Ch 19 v 15 is the actual word of the living God and those laws and Gods word binds all the Jews. Despite their bragging I found the Jews were remarkably ignorant to their own religion.

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JrnymnX says: The evidence that I have given you up till now should be sufficient to have proven that you are wrong in your belief that you are the prophet spoken of in Deuteronomy.

Starjade says: This comment just rolled up on the screen. I suggest you re read all I have said for what you believe is totally mistaken. You will need more than just you convincing yourself that your explanations were satisfactory when you are dealing with a religious expert like the Deuteronomy Prophet Starjade. I am already established by Deuteronomy law to be a genuine Prophet with a provable connection to the living God who has already given details of an apocalypse with a view to an Exodus of Jews from the four corners of the globe to the Jews. There is only one Prophet from the Living God who was coming here to do that task. You are now speaking to that very specific Deuteronomy Prophet.

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JrnymnX says: Further all the evidence you claim proves you to be the Deuteronomy prophet has been either grossly misinterpreted, or is based not on a Jewish interpretation, but on Christian interpretation.

Starjade says: The Jews I spoke with do not agree with you. Do not forget that the Jews in my eyes are all the descendants of Abraham whiles you think the Jews are just Israelites. I have spoken with many religious scholars who also disagree with you. I suggest you look more closely and not be so presumptuous to make such assumptions to the Living Gods Deuteronomy Prophet. I have said before you should never under estimate me for I am more than what I seem. Your own opinions are getting in the way of the facts presented.

By the way, I started this thread showing how the Romans fabricated the New Testament and Christianity. Christianity bit the dust a long Time ago and I have been making quotes of my being established as being that Deuteronomy Prophet using the Old Testament and Jewish law after all I was speaking to the Jewish congregations on these specific matters. They do not accept Jesus as being that Deuteronomy Prophet and could never follow or understand a Christian point of view. The Christians have no business making their claims using Old Testament text. They bit the dust a long Time ago and in front of the faces of the Jewish congregations. Do not forget I do write on many forums so I do get about. Many religious scholars have come forwards to challenge me and they all bit the Dust.

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JrnymnX says: As one who believes that Christianity is bunk, why do you base your claims on their false interpretation of Judaism?

Starjade says: I must use New Testament text to expose their fraudulent claims. But even they use the Old Testament, as did the Muslims to make their claims. I have used the Old Testament to establish that I am that Deuteronomy Ch 18 v 15/18 Prophet using Deuteronomy law Ch 19 v 15 as I have already explained. I am also an expert in this field of religious knowledge and be sure I know my own business which runs a lot deeper than you seem to understand.

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Reply #123 - 29. Nov 2006 at 08:01

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Phlogistatron you said: Why not spend your time telling people about that vision itself, and why you think it is true, givn that youve had witnesses before.

Starjade says: by the way Phlogistatron I have been spending my Time doing exactly that. I just take it to the max and do more than talk but do the deed. Everyone has and always will bite the Dust. There are maps of the event on the End of Times web site and Starjade�s journey beyond the grave explains how I know and the rest is what I did with that knowledge. Nobody is going to be forgetting the days of my visitations and my words will haunt the minds of the so called religious congregations for a long Time to come and on that final apocalyptic day even their bodies will be covered and turned to Dust.

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Reply #125 - 29. Nov 2006 at 18:39

Starjade says: It is never the wise to underestimate me.

JrnymnX replies: It is never the wise to underestimate anybody.

Starjade says: ... Does this explain how that Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verse 15 law can establish that I alone can only be that very specific Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verse 15/18 Prophet that those Jews have been waiting for, it all seems most simple to me.

JrnymnX relies: No this does not explain how Devarim 19:15 can support your claim. As I have previously posted this law is a negative law. It can't be used to prove anything. Proving something is a positive action, which would require a positive law. This is the Jewish interpretation of this particular law. You can't rewrite it.

Starjade says: (re: Jesus and Muhammad) I am simply removing all the obstacles that exist in front of me before I step into a more public arena.

JrnymnX replies: Then let us consider them removed for the sake of this discussion.

Starjade says: It still makes me an Alien though doesn�t it who is a resident on this Planet. It did not say the source of all the alien residents.

JrnymnX replies: It is clear from your answer that you have no real idea about what an alien resident is. If you want to lay claim to being an alien resident again, you should first find out what it is that you are laying claim to. I have attempted to explain it to you in the past, but to no avail.

Starjade says: (quoting JrnymnX) You have no standing in their religion. You have no authority to make interpretations or pronouncements, nor carry out any sentences. Further, according to Jewish law (see above) not following a prophet is not blasphemy.

Starjade responded: Oh come now JrnymnX the Deuteronomy Prophet is the King of all Jews with absolute God given authority over the Jews. As a Crown of the Living White Sphere I am a Judge and I do Judge I also sentence people and to their deaths and people have died in the past as the sentence became passed.

JrnymnX replies: Then why do you not follow the Jewish religion? How can you be king of the Jews and not follow their religion? Why would God give you authority over the Jews, but allow you to live apart from his covenant with the Jews? Surely you can see that this makes no sense. Why would God send a heathen to his people?

StarJade says: So JrnymnX do you understand where I am coming from and how the law of Deuteronomy and the Prophecy of Deuteronomy and the gathering up of the Jews all connect into each other.

JrnymnX replies: No, I don't see that connection. The prophecy from Isaiah is a prophecy concerning a specific individual, the Prophecy from Devarim 18:15 is not.

Starjade says: Nothing is misrepresented by me. I read 600 years of history of the Jews and so I did know a lot about those Jewish people. My understanding of them does not need to be so comprehensive I was just curious. All I needed to know about them was the Covenant the Living God had with them and Deuteronomy law and of the waiting for the Prophet to gather them up from the four corners of the globe. What else would I need to know...

JrnymnX replies: Well it wouldn't hurt for you to understand the Jewish (not christian) understanding of the prophet predicted through Moses. It wouldn't hurt for you to understand the differences between positive laws and negative laws. It also wouldn't hurt for you to actually, "know a lot about those Jewish people," instead of just claiming that you do.

StarJade says: (quoting JrnymnX) You link disparate prophecies. StarJade responded: No I do not. You just do not give me Time to reply and explain. I have explained It now though.

JrnymnX replies: You explanation is insufficient. The two prophecies in question do not both refer to one individual.

Starjade says: Forget the Jews and their opinions and interpretations and traditions. Concentrate on their Jewish laws.

JrnymnX relies: I have concentrated on their laws with regard to Devarim 19:15. It does not suport your claim.

StarJade says: I found the Jews were remarkably ignorant to their own religion. ... The Jews I spoke with do not agree with you.

JrnymnX replies: Clearly you must have been talking to those Jews who are remarkably ignorant of their own religion if they do not agree with me.

StarJade says: You are now speaking to that very specific Deuteronomy Prophet.

JrnymnX replies: There is no such thing.

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Reply #126 - Yesterday at 06:31

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Starjade says: It is never the wise to underestimate me.

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JrnymnX replies: It is never the wise to underestimate anybody.

Starjade says: Yes but you are underestimating me and by your own words you should know better.

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Starjade says: ... Does this explain how that Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verse 15 law can establish that I alone can only be that very specific Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verse 15/18 Prophet that those Jews have been waiting for, it all seems most simple to me.

JrnymnX relies: No this does not explain how Devarim 19:15 can support your claim. As I have previously posted this law is a negative law. It can't be used to prove anything. Proving something is a positive action, which would require a positive law. This is the Jewish interpretation of this particular law. You can't rewrite it.

Starjade says: Why would I want to re write a law that gives authenticity to my Crown and establishes that my word and all the statements I have made are true. By using the law of Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 it can be established by diligent inquisition that I am a genuine Prophet with a provable connection to the living God who has already approached the Jews with those plans for an Exodus of all Jews yes all Jews from the four corners of the globe. That is what that Prophet that Moses spoke about was going to do wasn�t it. Perhaps I need to explain that law to you in much more easy to understand detail yet then I thought I already did. Of course, from experience I see that there was bound to be that shock debate when you find that there is a way that law can authenticate that I am a Prophet with a provable connection to the living God as I have seen that fact freak people out before. And you were so confident with your own personal opinions and views and did not even realise how that could be possible.

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Starjade says: (re: Jesus and Muhammad) I am simply removing all the obstacles that exist in front of me before I step into a more public arena.

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JrnymnX replies: Then let us consider them removed for the sake of this discussion.

Starjade says: Ah but they are a part of this equation after all they both claim that they are that long awaited Prophet that the living God promised Moses he would raise up. And they have no evidence to support that claim yet look at how millions believe in them. While I have evidence that is established by Deuteronomy law and that causes your denial.

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Starjade says: It still makes me an Alien though doesn�t it who is a resident on this Planet. It did not say the source of all the alien residents.

JrnymnX replies: It is clear from your answer that you have no real idea about what an alien resident is. If you want to lay claim to being an alien resident again, you should first find out what it is that you are laying claim to. I have attempted to explain it to you in the past, but to no avail.

Starjade says: I am an Alien resident and so I know what an Alien resident is. I do not recall you deciding what is an Alien. The matter isn�t really relevant after all Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 law already can establish that I am a Prophet with a provable connection to the living God. Who has already approached the Jews with that law with plans for that world wide Exodus of all those Jews. The Alien resident thingy is a tad silly for to be mentioned after all as can be seen in all Old Testament text it does not say anyplace that the long awaited Prophet would be a Jew.

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Reply #127 - Yesterday at 07:00

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Starjade says: (quoting JrnymnX) You have no standing in their religion. You have no authority to make interpretations or pronouncements, nor carry out any sentences. Further, according to Jewish law (see above) not following a prophet is not blasphemy.

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JrnymnX replies: Then why do you not follow the Jewish religion? How can you be king of the Jews and not follow their religion? Why would God give you authority over the Jews, but allow you to live apart from his covenant with the Jews? Surely, you can see that this makes no sense. Why would God send a heathen to his people?

Starjade says: I do not hold with rituals that are not a part of me nor do I tolerate animal sacrifices. The Jews have their reasons for such rituals but I have none. I came here for one task only that was to gather up the Jews from the four corners of the globe and lead them all to a new promised land where they will build that Third Temple in AFRICA as I have said and await that new promised land to arrive in the South Eastern Atlantic Basin next to Africa.

This does not mean I must follow all the things in the Jews religion outside of the End of Times Prophecy and why should I after all I am not a Jew and furthermore my life on this Planet is expected to be short. I am the genuine King of the Jews and can easily make the Jews the master race right here on Earth. But there are limits as to how far I will go with those intentions.

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StarJade says: So JrnymnX do you understand where I am coming from and how the law of Deuteronomy and the Prophecy of Deuteronomy and the gathering up of the Jews all connect into each other.

JrnymnX replies: No, I don't see that connection. The prophecy from Isaiah is a prophecy concerning a specific individual, the Prophecy from Devarim 18:15 is not.

Starjade says: Well yippee that means I can chat about my favourite subject all over again and I shall try and put it as simple as possible. (sigh) those Jews and their Prophecies eh don�t you just love them. Of course we all know it is down to the one and only Moses and the Living God but hey now and then those Jews do have their place in the great scheme of things.

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Starjade says: Nothing is misrepresented by me. I read 600 years of history of the Jews and so I did know a lot about those Jewish people. My understanding of them does not need to be so comprehensive I was just curious. All I needed to know about them was the Covenant the Living God had with them and Deuteronomy law and of the waiting for the Prophet to gather them up from the four corners of the globe. What else would I need to know...

JrnymnX replies: Well it wouldn't hurt for you to understand the Jewish (not christian) understanding of the prophet predicted through Moses. It wouldn't hurt for you to understand the differences between positive laws and negative laws. It also wouldn't hurt for you to actually, "know a lot about those Jewish people," instead of just claiming that you do.

StarJade says: (quoting JrnymnX) You link disparate prophecies.

StarJade responded: No I do not. You just do not give me Time to reply and explain. I have explained It now though.

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JrnymnX replies: You explanation is insufficient. The two prophecies in question do not both refer to one individual.

Starjade says: Of course they refer to that long awaited Prophet that the living God promised Moses he would raise up. And of course, I knew I would be chatting about the matter even more. But as the reply to all you had said was going to be about 19ft long then you did want me to be brief.

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Starjade says: Forget the Jews and their opinions and interpretations and traditions. Concentrate on their Jewish laws.

JrnymnX relies: I have concentrated on their laws with regard to Devarim 19:15. It does not suport your claim.

Starjade says: Now i just knew that you were going to say that. Being a Prophet has some advantages. I just love to discuss that very Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verse 15 law. Do not forget of course that it is not just that one verse but also of those that follow it as to what should be done whiles that law is in force. So clearly, you want to chat about that specific law even further. I do love speaking about that law and how it can establish that I am a Prophet with a provable connection to the living God. Yeah lets talk much more on that specific Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 law after all it is most important isn�t it regarding the claims of the much loved Deuteronomy Doomsday Prophet Starjade.

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StarJade says: I found the Jews were remarkably ignorant to their own religion. ... The Jews I spoke with do not agree with you.

JrnymnX replies: Clearly you must have been talking to those Jews who are remarkably ignorant of their own religion if they do not agree with me.

Starjade says: I really do not grasp this or that thing. To me a Jew is a Jew and a descendant of Abraham and so they should as Ishmaelite or the Israelites all know as much on the matter as each other and all should know the laws brought down by Moses from the living God. Yet they are as green as grass and even that is undecided. When it comes to speaking of the coming of that Prophet prophesied in Deuteronomy Ch 18 v 15/18 they seem to appear to live in some fantasy delusion without even having any knowledge of the facts. Be certain the Time will come when I complain to their Rabbis about those things and give them all an education. Well hey in fact already I did.

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StarJade says: You are now speaking to that very specific Deuteronomy Prophet.

JrnymnX replies: There is no such thing.

Starjade says: So you say that there is no Prophet foretold to be raised up in the MIDST of the Jews and that such a thing does not exist. Right then why not explain further just what you mean. And whiles there, explain why Jesus and Muhammad both claim they are that Deuteronomy Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up and that misguided belief in them gave rise to the blasphemy of Christianity and Islam. For you to say there is no such thing is a bit of a big step the question is then how can you step forwards and back your claim up. After these 19 ft brief replies I sent it is also even impossible for you to say that I do not exist. For I am here.

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Reply #128 - Yesterday at 15:35

Starjade says: Yes but you are underestimating me and by your own words you should know better.

JrnymnX replies: Do you not realize that you are also underestimating me?

Starjade says: ... By using the law of Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 it can be established...

JrnymnX replies: Whoa! Stop right there. The law of Devarim 19:15 is as I have stressed to you a negative law. It can establish nothing. Not for you, not for anyone.

Starjade says: Ah but they are a part of this equation after all they both claim...

JrnymnX replies: No. They are not part of this equation. You falsely believe that by disproving the claim of another you in some way lend strength to your own claim. Quite simply, you do not. My denial of your claim is not based on anything other than the facts. You claim to be a specific prophet which is not what the prophesy refers to. You claim that your proof is based on a twisted interpretation of a law that cannot be used in the way you are using it. It really amounts to an abuse of Judaism.

Starjade says: I am an Alien resident and so I know what an Alien resident is. I do not recall you deciding what is an Alien.

JrnymnX replies: This response serves to underline the depth of your ignorance of the Jewish religion.

Starjade says: So you say that there is no Prophet foretold to be raised up in the MIDST of the Jews and that such a thing does not exist. Right then why not explain further just what you mean. And whiles there, explain why Jesus and Muhammad both claim they are that Deuteronomy Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up and that misguided belief in them gave rise to the blasphemy of Christianity and Islam. For you to say there is no such thing is a bit of a big step the question is then how can you step forwards and back you claim up. After these 19 ft brief replies I sent it is also even impossible for you to say that I do not exist. For I am here.

JrnymnX replies: I did not deny the prophecy of Devarim 18:15, I simply denied the Christian interpretation of it. You have claimed the Chirstian religion is a fabrication. That the authors of the various christian books have gleaned through the Tanakh trying to twist the prophecies to suit their needs. One of the prophecies that has been so twisted is the prophecy of Devarim 18:15. The christians have interpreted this prophecy to speak of one specific individual who would succed to the role of Moses. This individual would of course be like Moses by being a religious leader (which, by the way, you are not), a law giver (which, by the way, you are not), a prophet (which you may very well be), and a historian (which your failure to understand a simple term like 'alien resident' shows that you are not). But this is not what the prophecy of Devarim 18:15 is all about. Your failure to recognize that you are trying to be the 'christian' messiah just shows how little you actually know about judaism, and how greatly your interpretations are influenced by what you yourself claim to be a false religion. You are claiming to be someone who doesn't exist.

Another problem with your claim to being the prophet of Devarim 18:15 is that you also make other claims to grander titles. If you presume to be greater than Moses, then you cannot be any prophet who can lay claim to fulfilling Devarim 18:15, as that prophet must be like Moses, not greater than Moses.

Now to the heart of the matter. Devarim 18:15 does not predict a specific prophet, rather it establishes the Office of the Prophet, the successors to Moses, prophets like Isaiah, Samuel, Ezekial, etc. It establishes a means for determining if a prophet is true or not, and the penalty for false prophets. So clearly there is no specific prophet refered to in Devarim 18, something which you, like the christians and from what you say, Muslims, claim there is. Two religions which you have accused of being false. And you right there, walking in their footsteps. Quoting from their interpretations of the Torah. Trying to fulfill their prophecies, their way.

P.S. I noticed you didn't have an answer as to why God would put a heathen over the Jews as their King.

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Reply #129 - Today at 05:27

Starjade says: I do not have the compute access I would like and so I save the conversations to disc and take them home and answer them then bring them back another day to post that reply. I did point this out several times and asked that you be patient.

[quote] JrnymnX you said: Whoa! Stop right there. The law of Devarim 19:15 is as I have stressed to you a law. It can establish nothing. Not for you, not for anyone.

Starjade says: I see you have been scanning the internet for help. We are not Hebrews here so saying Deuteronomy is just fine. Otherwise, another reader might wonder what you mean.

Panic notteth for Starjade has once again sent you a reply about the law of Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verse 15 to explain once again How that law does establish that I am a Prophet with a provable connection to the living God who has approached the Jews bringing to them that law of Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verse 15 to Prove my Crown whiles giving them details of an ever nearing apocalypse with a view to an Exodus of Jews from the four corners of the globe. I remind you that the Jews are expecting a specific Prophet to do just that.

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Starjade says: Ah but they are a part of this equation after all they both claim...

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JrnymnX replies: No. They are not part of this equation. You falsely believe that by disproving the claim of another you in some way lend strength to your own claim. Quite simply, you do not.

Starjade says: I am simply proving those false pretenders to my Crown are frauds and as they claim they are that Deuteronomy Prophet then by establishing they are frauds the obvious conclusion for those who are not Jews is that the genuine Prophet is still out there and is going to come to this Planet as prophesied. The people were misled by those frauds. So you are mistaken. My claims are already established and by Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 law and so I do not need anything else but still I would have to show those false pretenders to my Throne are frauds as I planned on saving more than the Jews. Oh and the Arabs who follow Islam are descendants of Ishmael and so descendants of Abraham. So they also are Jews so those two false pretenders to my Throne are relevant to these conversations. I see perhaps a ruse to avoid those discussions.

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JrnymnX replies: My denial of your claim is not based on anything other than the facts. You claim to be a specific prophet which is not what the prophesy refers to. You claim that your proof is based on a twisted interpretation of a law that cannot be used in the way you are using it. It really amounts to an abuse of Judaism.

Starjade says: Your denial is futile and you should be very cautious before you jump to conclusions that you will regret later. Explain to me more concisely and yet with more words just what you mean when you say; Quote: You claim to be a specific prophet which is not what the prophesy refers to. End Quote:

I am about to re explain how Deuteronomy law is used. SO PAY ATTENTION.

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Reply #130 - Today at 05:28

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Starjade says: I am an Alien resident and so I know what an Alien resident is. I do not recall you deciding what is an Alien.

JrnymnX replies: This response serves to underline the depth of your ignorance of the Jewish religion.

Starjade says: Clearly, I know more about the Jews religion than you do on these matters.

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Starjade says: So you say that there is no Prophet foretold to be raised up in the MIDST of the Jews and that such a thing does not exist. Right then why not explain further just what you mean. And whiles there, explain why Jesus and Muhammad both claim they are that Deuteronomy Prophet that God promised Moses he would raise up and that misguided belief in them gave rise to the blasphemy of Christianity and Islam. For you to say there is no such thing is a bit of a big step the question is then how can you step forwards and back you claim up. After these 19 ft brief replies I sent it is also even impossible for you to say that I do not exist. For I am here.

JrnymnX replies: I did not deny the prophecy of Devarim 18:15, I simply denied the Christian interpretation of it. You have claimed the Christian religion is a fabrication. That the authors of the various Christian books have gleaned through the Tanakh trying to twist the prophecies to suit their needs.

Starjade says: Yes, they did promote the New Testament to support their Roman claims about Jesus that are blasphemy. However, they still had to use original Old Testament text to make those claims. So whiles the claims about Jesus is a fraud the speaking of the Old Testament was clearly original in its claim.

JrnymnX replies: One of the prophecies that has been so twisted is the prophecy of Devarim 18:15. The christians have interpreted this prophecy to speak of one specific individual who would succed to the role of Moses.

Starjade says: yes the Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verse 15: Is about just one specific Prophet.

Deuteronomy 15: A prophet from among you, from your brothers, like me, the L-rd your G-d will set up for you; you shall listen to him.

Deuteronomy 18: A prophet I will set up for them from among their brothers like you; and I will put My words into his mouth, and he will speak to them all that I command him.

In Deuteronomy 18:15, Moses speaks to the Israelites and tells them about God's promise. To paraphrase (Moses saying to the Israelites)
God told me that he would bring forth for you a prophet from your midst, like me.

In Deuteronomy 18:18, Moses speaks to the Israelites and quotes God's promise as it was told to him. To paraphrase (Moses quoting what God said to him) This is what God said to me: �I will bring forth a prophet for them from among them, like you.

So, in effect, the two verses convey the same message, the former being a paraphrase of God's promise and the latter being a quotation of God's promise.

Starjade says: Curiously, I had brought those very matters to your attention in the reply you had no patience to await.

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JrnymnX replies: This individual would of course be like Moses by being a religious leader (which, by the way, you are not), a law giver (which, by the way, you are not), a prophet (which you may very well be), and a historian (which your failure to understand a simple term like 'alien resident' shows that you are not).

Starjade says: I am like Moses and I am a religious leader and I am here speaking of the very law of Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 that I brought to the Jews attention. I am also aware of 6000 years of Jewish history and over 100 thousands years and more of human history. I am an Alien resident and so in all those factors you are wrong. Of course, those things are not all topics of my conversation and I do not feel any need to lecture people about the Jews. OK�

JrnymnX replies: But this is not what the prophecy of Devarim 18:15 is all about.

Starjade says: In Deuteronomy 18:15, Moses speaks to the Israelites and tells them about God's promise. To paraphrase (Moses saying to the Israelites) God told me that he would bring forth for you a prophet from your midst, like me.

JrnymnX replies: Your failure to recognize that you are trying to be the 'christian' messiah just shows how little you actually know about judaism, and how greatly your interpretations are influenced by what you yourself claim to be a false religion. You are claiming to be someone who doesn't exist.

Starjade says: Erm scuse me but these are replies to Jews not to Christians but never forget that Christians will also be a part of these conversations just as will Muslims and others. Clearly, I do know what I am talking about. Are you suffering from a Shock wave from Starjade�s Revelations? They can be unnerving. In case you forget this thread began by my destroying the credibility of the Christians pretentious messiah.

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JrnymnX replies: Another problem with your claim to being the prophet of Devarim 18:15 is that you also make other claims to grander titles. If you presume to be greater than Moses, then you cannot be any prophet who can lay claim to fulfilling Devarim 18:15, as that prophet must be like Moses, not greater than Moses.

Starjade says: Yes, I have many Titles and I am also a son of the living God which Moses was not and I outrank Moses and I attempted the Exodus of potentially billions of Jews world wide and so even my horizons are even greater than Moses. However, we both are leaders of the Jews and both have planned the Exodus of Jews and considered their well being and safety. We are also both male. Just what exact thing are you looking for. We are not the same person and yet we are very much alike. Your argument then is week.

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Reply #132 - Today at 05:29

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JrnymnX replies: Now to the heart of the matter. Devarim 18:15 does not predict a specific prophet, rather it establishes the Office of the Prophet, the successors to Moses, prophets like Isaiah, Samuel, Ezekial, etc. It establishes a means for determining if a prophet is true or not, and the penalty for false prophets.

Starjade says: You are talking nonsense. Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verse 15/18 is speaking of the coming of one specific Prophet. You must have been listening to the blabbery of others off the Internet voicing their own opinions. Read Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verse 15/18 before you go reading the blabbery of self opinionated Jews who clearly do not know what they are talking about. The verses speak for themselves.

Deuteronomy 15: A prophet from among you, from your brothers, like me, the L-rd your G-d will set up for you; you shall listen to him.

Deuteronomy 18: A prophet I will set up for them from among their brothers like you; and I will put My words into his mouth, and he will speak to them all that I command him.

In Deuteronomy 18:15, Moses speaks to the Israelites and tells them about God's promise. To paraphrase (Moses saying to the Israelites)
God told me that he would bring forth for you a prophet from your midst, like me.

In Deuteronomy 18:18, Moses speaks to the Israelites and quotes God's promise as it was told to him. To paraphrase (Moses quoting what God said to him) This is what God said to me: �I will bring forth a prophet for them from among them, like you.

So, in effect, the two verses convey the same message, the former being a paraphrase of God's promise and the latter being a quotation of God's promise.

Starjade says: At no Time does the living God say this long awaited Prophet would be a Jew. Neither does Moses, they only say that the Prophet would be raised up among them.

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JrnymnX replies: So clearly there is no specific prophet refered to in Devarim 18, something which you, like the christians and from what you say, Muslims, claim there is.

Starjade says: Clearly, the Christians Muslims and Jews and the Deuteronomy Chapter 18 verses 15/18 all speak of the coming of just one Prophet. The verses say so themselves so how can you think you can argue against what is written and by Jews.

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JrnymnX replies: Two religions which you have accused of being false. And you right there, walking in their footsteps. Quoting from their interpretations of the Torah. Trying to fulfill their prophecies, their way.

Starjade says: No religions not even their leaders have accused me of being false. They dare not even accuse me of blasphemy and trust me I did get in their faces. I still do and yet they know from the evidence that I can establish everything that I say. The Christians used the Jews Old Testament to get their claims and quotes from and so that is still very much a part of the Old Testament which covers more than the five books of the Torah. Read carefully the following posts and be wary of me. Your opinion that I must be a fraud is unsubstantiated and you are that one false accuser who voicing your own opinions on matters that you have not look very deeply at. Taking blabberwocky off the net from some self opinionated Jews would be an error of Judgement on your behalf. I suggest you research the matter with your own eyes after all you do own an Old Testament someplace don�t you?.

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JrnymnX replies: P.S. I noticed you didn't have an answer as to why God would put a heathen over the Jews as their King.

Starjade says: As a matter I did reply to that very statement that you made intending to insult me. Isn�t heathen an Irish Roman Christians saying? Ever heard of the Kettle calling the teapot black.

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Reply #133 - Today at 05:30

Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 |15| Ed echad shall not rise up against an ish for any avon (iniquity), or for any chattat (sin), in any sin that he sinneth: at the mouth of shney edim, or at the mouth of shloshah edim, shall the matter be established.

KJ translation: The LORD thy God will raise up unto thee a Prophet from the midst of thee, of thy brethren, like unto me; unto him ye shall hearken;(1)

Jews translation: A prophet from among you, from your brothers, like me, the L-rd your G-d will set up for you; you shall listen to him.

King James translation: I will raise them up a Prophet from among their brethren, like unto thee, and will put my words in his mouth; and he shall speak unto them all that I shall command him.

Jews translation: A prophet I will set up for them from among their brothers like you; and I will put My words into his mouth, and he will speak to them all that I command him.

Before we begin these are Jewish translations you agree are accurate.

Of course, you do after all denial is futile. They whosoever they maybe can alter text but the statement is just the same and at no Time does it say that Prophet would be a Jew only that he would be raised up among them.

Deuteronomy 15: A prophet from among you, from your brothers, like me, the L-rd your G-d will set up for you; you shall listen to him.

Deuteronomy 18: A prophet I will set up for them from among their brothers like you; and I will put My words into his mouth, and he will speak to them all that I command him.

In Deuteronomy 18:15, Moses speaks to the Israelites and tells them about God's promise. To paraphrase (Moses saying to the Israelites)
God told me that he would bring forth for you a prophet from your midst, like me.

In Deuteronomy 18:18, Moses speaks to the Israelites and quotes God's promise as it was told to him. To paraphrase (Moses quoting what God said to him) This is what God said to me: �I will bring forth a prophet for them from among them, like you.

So, in effect, the two verses convey the same message, the former being a paraphrase of God's promise and the latter being a quotation of God's promise.

Starjade says: At no Time does the living God say this long awaited Prophet would be a Jew. Neither does Moses, they only say that the Prophet would be raised up among them.

The Hebrew Bible teaches that a prophet's primary role was to be God's messenger and spokesperson, communicating God's will in all matters. He or she was, in essence, the envoy through whom God, the divine King, governs Israel, as Deuteronomy 18:19 states: �whoever will not listen to my words which he shall speak in my name, I myself will call him to account for it.�, This declaration establishes the prophet as the highest authority in the land, higher even than the king, about whose commands no similar declaration is ever made in the Hebrew Bible.

As such, prophets played a major role in the religious, domestic, and political life of the nation. In brief as I am that long awaited prophesied Prophet, I am the absolute King of the Jews and they have no choice but to do as I say. If they do not they break their Covenant and that would be an act of Blasphemy a crime of iniquity and sin and the living God is going to get them. So that matter is resolved then for at no Time does it say that specific Prophet Prophesied in Deuteronomy Ch 18 v 15/18 would be a Jew and I have indeed grown up in the Midst of the Jews who are the brethren of all other Jews world wide past or present on this Planet who are alive or dead.

You are in no position to dispute that statement with just your opinion to offer to support your beliefs that stand against the actual Prophecy whatever way it is written.

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Reply #134 - Today at 05:32

Deuteronomy Chapter 19 Verse 15: One witness shall not rise up against a man for any iniquity or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: At the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.

Deuteronomy 19:16 If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong;

Deuteronomy 19:17 Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days;

Deuteronomy 19:18 And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother;

Deuteronomy 19:19 Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.

Starjade says: This is a law of Deuteronomy Ch 19 v 15 is a witness law that is determines matters of the truth especially about statements that could be deemed as being blasphemous or sinful. It is not a matter for your own personal opinion. Even if nobody wanted to believe the evidence that is presented. If that law is fulfilled, then legally it is binding and should stand good according to religious law.

Starjade says: Hearken to my words. I am a son of the living God and I am that specific Prophet that the living God promised Moses he would raise up and I am the Lord King and King of Kings the much loved Doomsday prophet Starjade.

I have and can easily establish that Jesus and Muhammad are false pretenders to my Throne and that they are liars and frauds who are guilty of blasphemy against the living God. Not only can I prove all of these words are true but that I have been doing so with ease since 1995.

Deuteronomy 19:16 If a false witness rise up against any man to testify against him that which is wrong;

Hearken to me. Consider the statements that I have just made and then think with the eyes of the so called religious congregations. In their eyes, they would disbelieve and accuse me if they dared of being blasphemous. Blasphemy is a crime of iniquity and sin and if accused then that law becomes invoked because that is what the Jews law states should happen. However, they in their religious ignorance would be wrong and making false accusations against me.

Deuteronomy 19:17 Then both the men, between whom the controversy is, shall stand before the LORD, before the priests and the judges, which shall be in those days; Deuteronomy 19:18 And the judges shall make diligent inquisition: and, behold, if the witness be a false witness, and hath testified falsely against his brother;
Deuteronomy 19:19 Then shall ye do unto him, as he had thought to have done unto his brother: so shalt thou put the evil away from among you.

Hearken to me. After the accusation of blasphemy and the arrest then diligent inquisition is then made to determine the truth and to see if any crime of iniquity or sin has been committed. Blasphemy and false Prophecy is punishable by death according to religious law. According to Deuteronomy law Ch 19 v 15 two or three witnesses can stand for or against the accused because for any crime of iniquity or for any sin, in any sin that he sinneth: At the mouth of two witnesses, or at the mouth of three witnesses, shall the matter be established.

Before the lord thy God, before the priests and the judges who live in these Times upon that diligent inquisition it will be revealed that I am a genuine Prophet who has already Prophesied several earthquakes and a volcano erupting and performed a miracle right here on earth which establishes that I am indeed a genuine Prophet with a provable connection to the living God. I have already named more than four witnesses to whom I did accurately Prophesy those events.

Furthermore, I approached the International order of Kabbalists who are Jews bringing to them that law on their request for evidence of my Crown and power as the living Gods Prophet. Giving them also details of future world wide earthquakes and land movements and land deluges with a view to an Exodus of Jews from the four corners of the globe. With a plan that they wait in Africa and build a Biosphere to house them to protect them from the toxic environment that will exist in those future Times with that insistence that this building would be a city and that Third Temple to the Living God that the Jews had been waiting to build. The matter of the gathering of the Jews included all the Ishmaelites and Israelites and all other descendants of Abraham scattered to this day in the four corners of the globe.

Now upon that diligent inquisition before the lord thy God, before the priests and the judges who live in these Times or any Time with that evidence upon that diligent inquisition it will be revealed that I am not guilty of any crime of iniquity or sin and all of my words and rank will be established. I further add that the law of Deuteronomy Chapter 19 verse 15 is a law brought down from the living God by Moses and is therefore the actual word of the living God stating clearly that I am not guilty of any crime of iniquity or sin. With that added note that the living God said to me they should hearken.

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