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Rules and Setting Questions and Answers

These are frequent questions and answers related to the rules and setting. They are not rulings and are not modifications to rules, but offer insights into a consistant basis for interpetation of the World of Darkness for this region. Most of these have been made with consultation with our NST and the other RST's. Others are commentary on mis-read rules which make for frequent questions.

A majority of these are taken from answers in the RST report to questions from CST's and DST's.


Vampire

General

Can I purchase intermediate or advanced discplines with free traits?
In Laws of the Night Revised, it gives the specific list of what can be purchased with free traits. Neither Prime 5.1, nor Vampire 5.1 modify that. Intermediate and advanced disciplines are not on the list, only basic disciplines are on the list. Not allowed.

Is the lowering of morality count outside of the negative trait limit or not? Ditto with derangements.
If you read LotNRev carefully (the wording is a bit funny), the maximum free traits from a combination of negative traits, one extra derangement and one lowering of morality is 5.

What kind of magic items can we pass out at Cam-Anarch games?
Very little - see Tremere magic. Stuff from Laws of the Hunt or Laws of the Hunt Players Guide requires High approval and the artifact background which is High approval as well. Cam-Anarch's themes are related to humanity and the beast (which is why PoE's work so poorly in the venue.) Now, if your question was Changeling or Mage, the answer would be quite different.

What rules should I use to create a ghoul or a ghoul retainer?
For a ghoul - NPC's, retainers or PC's - all use the same rules. Use Mortals 5.0, Prime 5.1, Laws of the Hunt. Use Laws of the Night Revised, Liber des Goules and Laws of the Hunt Players Guide for supplemental material. For retainers, keep in mind that the retainer rules in Prime apply.

Status is limited to being gained only once per story. What does that mean? (see LotNRev p218.)
We have a continous multi-country chronicle. Normally, with a single troupe, it is easy to determine the end of a story - it is several sessions with a large plotline coming to a close. With sanctioned play, a story is treated as a month. A character can only gain one status per month.

Is knowing how to perform the Vaulderie a WSIP item in the Cam-Anarch venue? Is particpating in one as well? How about getting your face and body permanently changed to impersonate/throw off pursuit?
Yes, all of this is a WSIP item and needs to be in the WSIP database for the Cam-Anarch venue. And it's all normal stuff in the Sabbat venue.

If I have the flaw "Cast No Reflection" that means I do not show up in security cameras, right?
Only if the security cameras use mirror or other silvered surfaces and I haven't seen one yet that did so. Read the flaw in LotNRev. Unless you are dealing with the typical mirror or an experimental camera that happens to use mirrors, any digital CCD array won't be affected by the flaw. It is a flaw not a merit.

My Giovanni has a mortal retainer. The mortal retainer dies. What approval does it take for me to get it as a Wraith retainer now?
In Wraith 5.0, it gives a mortal PC becoming a Wraith as Mid approval. In the absence of anything to the contrary, use that same approval level for the retainer. I would also suggest that the DST use the rules mentioned in Wraith 5.0 in reworking the character sheet to match.

I can't seem to find the text about waking up from torpor with blood of some number of geneations lower?
It's found in LotNRev, p111, under "Morality Traits" and it's three generations lower. This is a noted difference between MET and tabletop.

How far can a secondary character diablerize NPC's in the Sabbat venue?
Treat a secondary just like a MC1 character, because it is (see definition of secondary character in Prime 5.1)

Could a vampire be staked with a relic stake?
In my opinion, I would have to say no, as the stake is the echo of the wood and it's the whole living-wood-walking-dead thing with staking. However, YMMV. Basicaly, it's a situational call.

Who is responsible for reporting diablerie? The player, his storyteller, or the storyteller at the scene during the diablerie?
Vampire 5.1 mentions reports - those are the storyteller hierarchy reports. The storyteller of the player who's character diablerized is responsible. The storyteller at the scene should be responsible to mention the diablerie in his report and inform the player's storyteller.

What are the mechanics for moving onto a Path of Enlightenment?
Fairly situational. In the Cam-anarch venue that takes High approval. It will always come with a certain degree of danger of losing oneself to the beast. I would suggest looking at the section in Vampire Revised (WW2300).

How do you determine what is a clan-specific path?
See LotNRev p66. Path of Ectasy/Warrior, while fairly connected to the Setites, requires new mechanics which need special approval. Wait for the revised clanbook to enter play.

What kind of influence/background would control of Militias be?
One thing I might suggest would be to use Street Influence (gangs).

If you acquire a ghoul NPC in play, and it is going to be loyal enough to be a retainer, do you have to purchase retainer background?
Yes. If you don't, it probably will prove to be not that loyal afterall, or maybe it has an allergic reaction or any other possible story consequence.

If the Primgogen has two status (acknowledged and revered) and their clanmate has 3 status, can the primogen award them a status?
No - per Vampire 5.1. However, he can take one away.

If I am brawling with both fists, can I use the two weapon rules?
No. Brawl assumes that you are using everything at your disposal, including hands, feet, head, elbows. Same thing applies for claws.

If a PC is a primogen in two cities, what about the status cap and bonus status?
First off, most Princes and Harpies will have a field day with the poor confused PC. The status cap is clearly not raised. In my opinion, primogen is a primogen - that's a single Revered. The local ST probably can choose either way, but I'd advise consulting regional.

Can the Probationary Sect Member flaw apply to an Independent clan?
I don't see why not. The status effect will be minimized, but the Independents (Giovanni, Setite) have a strong tendancy to be rather insular.

Can I make a character who has the status Oath-Sworn?
For PC's and NPC's, no, that status is only awarded at Oath Chapels which occur in play. Please keep an eye out for Oath Chapels and either attend or proxy there.

If there is a contradiction between 5.1, WW's LotN:Sabbat Guide and the Sabbat Style Guide, which has precedence?
Vampire 5.1 has first precendence, followed by LotN:SG, then the Sabbat Style Guide.

I need this dead vampire to become someone's Spirit Mentor. Does that need approval?
Any dead vampire as a wraith needs High approval, Haunted, Spirit Mentor or normal wraith.

Vampire 5.1 states that the Social Class of a character is common knowledge. So if my character diaberlizes to 10th and wants to be known as an Ancilla - and has the years to do so, will he have a problem?
Only if there isn't a problem with everyone knowing that he is a diablerist. I.e. until the diablerie is common knowledge, then the social class isn't there.

Can the average vampire perform a 'bite' maneuver?
Yes, but only after you are grappling. Vampires are Beasts that have fangs, never forget that when you try to use Judo on them. I recommend a grapple because without it there is no real advantage to the Tongue of the Asp, Wolves Claws, or Form of the Beast in combat. Those powers let you keep your distance and still cause Aggravated Damage.

What about a designed-for-puissance bow?
Only effect that potence can have is the damage and only if the ST agrees that the object being hurled is massive enough. I really don't see that being possible without deviating too far from the bow in Prime. Consider such a weapon to be High approval and unlikely.

One thing that is very hard to address are the changes that have taken place recently given the LotNR and rules revisions. Players are not sure if their characters would remember a time where Majesty was always up, things of that nature. I have been led to believe based on ST discussion that the changes 'just happened.' Is this the case in this region?
Unless it has a plotline associated with the change in play (see dementation and obtenabration) or has material in LotNRev to explain the change (see Thau rituals), then the default is to assume that it's always been the way it is now. If you have interest in a particular item changing method, I'd check with the associated GSA for the flavor used.

If my character has his heart removed via serpentis, can I stick someone else's heart in it's place?
This is something probably best left to the narrator and ST. I would say that doing so will do a lethal wound or two. Letting those lethal wounds heal will probably expell the foreign object (same for anything surgically implanted in a kindred.)

Can secondary characters get the MC+3 or 1+3 in free lores, performance, etc?
I don't see why not. But remember that the award is only made by the ST after receiving and approving a valid background.

So with my Occult Influence x10 I can find a Meth and...
Interacting with a Meth is something that would effect the region and beyond. Talk to me first, and in general let's just "say no" ::eeewww::

What approval level is a 15th generation character or the non-thinblooded 14th generation out of Time of Thin Blood? (Or even the different variant of thin-blooded 14th gen out of the same book?)
At least High approval at the moment. It's tabletop material that may need additional approval to set the mechanics on.

Is staking an extended challenge?
No.

My character watches someone else kill someone. Should I get a morality check if I just sat there?
It's possible. I wouldn't rate it as the same point in the HoS. This is quite situational, it depends on what else the character does or doesn't do.

I play a Prince. Do I have to make a morality check for calling a bloodhunt?
In most cases, unless your humanity is low enough, yes. Being Prince doesn't make you immune to concerns such as morality. Not unless you've become an inhuman monster, that is.

If the bloodhunt called includes diablerie, do I automatically lose a morality trait and then...
No. Though perhaps it might be lower level of sin than one without diablerie. Again, a situational call.

At what point, when a bloodhunt is called, should the test for morality be made?
Likely soon after it's called. You can typically wait until the scene is over to minimize distruption of roleplay (unless the effects of the result would be immedidately critical).

Are the optional rules under the generation background or the compressed scales possible?
Both are ruled out in 5.1 (by different sections.)

Can the Mentor background be used to pick up the new combo-disciplines?
Obviously not if it's a not a Low Approval one. My thoughts are that if none of the requirements are Advanced or higher, and it is Low Approval, then yes.

Can a ghoul blood-bond someone?
No.

Can you be bound to multiple people at the same time?
Yes, it requires mixing the blood together in a cup and drinking it.

Isn't that the vaulderie?
No, the vaulderie is a ritual. What that is, is known as the Prince's Cup and is a punishment that is known to sometimes be handed out at Camarilla Conclaves. (In other words, common knowledge to those with sufficent Camarilla Lore.)

So, if I heard that someone had mixed blood from multiple vampires in a cup and blood bonded someone, I could think they were doing the vaulderie?
No, not unless you had very little Camarilla Lore and a bit more than that in Sabbat Lore.

What if I heard of a bunch of vampires mutually blood-bonded to each other?
I would say with a bit lore, it would sound fairly sabbat like, or at worst extremely anarch like. Some freedom, blood-bonding your will away ::g::

Clans

What if I want to play a Ventrue who isn't picky about his food? What if I want to Play a Tremere who isn't permanently one trait bound to the Council?
These are either caitiff or they are a variant bloodline (and a variant bloodline will take at least High approval.)

Do the clan/bloodline advantages go over generational limits?
No. Unless the advantage states that it does allow a vampire to go over generational limits, it does not.

Do the auto-frenzies of Instinct count regarding the Gangrel disadvantage?
They are still a frenzy. I would say that they would.

What are the current approval levels for Ravnos now that we've ran the Month of Nightmares?
Use what is in Vampire 5.1. Stay tuned for changes.

A Giovanni can get one wraith retainer without purchasing the merit Supernatural Ally. If wanting a second wraith retainer, will the Giovanni need to take the merit?
Yes.

Is the Giovanni Wraith retainer any mechanically different from taking the merit Supernatural Ally with it's restrictions?
No.

If you are not caitiff, but pretend to be, do you pick up the Caitiff social flaw?
Sure.

What do Caitiff show up as with the ritual Blood Walk? Caitiff?
Read The Fine Ritual. You get "the clan from which the subject is descended".

If I need to make up a caitiff NPC that is 9th generation, what do I need to do?
It'll take a High approval for an NPC to start that way. Just put it on the website and give a brief run-down of why it's needed and the plotline it is supporting.

What approval level are Gargoyle NPC's in the Sabbat venue?
Top approval to play as PC in venue. High approval (as it is creature type) for NPC.

Can a ghoul of a caitiff learn the basic eight?
No, caitiff have no in-clans. The ghoul would still be able to learn the single physical discipline as Mortals 5.0 describes.

Disciplines

Can a Tremere ritual be cast on someone else, such as Pavis?
Not unless the ritual states it can be. A ritual which states it affects the caster or thaumaturgists means it affects the one who did the ritual. A ritual which states it affects a target, affects a target character, which might be someone else. Or in other words, Pavis may not be cast on someone else.

Can I activate Telepathy and then keep it going if the target leaves the room and I don't follow?
You must maintain some sort of "line of sense" with the target. Blinking isn't a problem. Someone bobbing around isn't much of a problem. Leaving the place and going someone else is a problem. Getting around that is what the Elder power Telepathic Communication does.

How many of the Principal Focus of Vitae Infusion beads can you have made at any one time?
There is no limit - but frequently regional events and ICC will limit the number of blood pool that is brought in either to equal your blood pool or half.

Can I use my Potence to help me in stage 4 of diablerie?
No, you cannot. In all of the descriptions of the Potence disciplines, it is clearly indicated that they only work with strength based challenges. While stage 4 of diablorie (the actual sucking of the soul) requires a physical challenge, it is obvious that this is not a strength related challenge. Therefore, you cannot use any of the Potence disciplines in your diablorie attempt, other than to pound the individual into torpor.

Can I use Engulf through Clairovyance?
No, Auspex is usable through Clairvoyance.

One character summons another. Both use Obfuscate to hide themselves. Neither has the ability to pierce the other's obfuscate. Neither wishes to drop their obfuscate. What happens?
The summoned must present themselves to summoner But if he is not able to find the summoned to present themselves to, then I would hazard that they would go there, wander around for a bit and then leave if they wished. But this one has a number of situations which could drastically alter the outcome. See the narrator on the scene for his decision for a particular situation.

How do Pavis of the Foul Presence and Summon interact?
Easy. If Pavis is activated, then Summon is reflected and the Summoner has just summoned himself. Ditto for Dread Gaze, Entracement. (See the text in Laws of the Night Revised. The text in the old LotN could be interpeted different ways.)

My gangrel can do four aggravated damage in Wolf Form with Maw, right?
Wrong. If you read Maw in the Gangrel Clanbook, it states that it makes the base damage for a bite 2. The wolf form base damage is 2. 2=2=2. If you have puissance, that's 3. Maw is a flaw which has a slight bonus (you can bite for 2 aggravated in homid form, instead of just wolf form.) The gangrel animal trait merits are actually flaws which give a limited advantage in some situations. All of them should really be a pain to have as a character. More fun that way.

Will Chimerstry work against devices?
Yes, as long as the Chimerstry is of the type that works against everybody and not just one person. See Chimerstry in both the tabletop main book (VRev) and the revised clanbook.

If chimestry is filmed does the effect fade from the footage by the next evening?
The tabletop materials (VRev, etc.) indicate that Chimerstry can indeed fool equipement.

The question is more of a situational call. Chimerstry is basically related (but not identical to) the chimerical creations of the Changelings. Basically, when a Ravnos creates a chimerical object, it is real to the the changelings and exists even after the Ravnos dismisses it.

I've taken that and applied some of the banality interactions with chimera. Sometimes photographs or video of chimerstry may show the creations as looking a bit fake, and/or eventually fade.

Make a judgement call based on story - if it is going to fade fast, that's a lot of banality to account for. I can see the effect fading quickly, fading slowly and even never fading. As a default, I would say it wouldn't fade.

Does Posession end after one scene/hour? Does Earth Meld end after one scene/hour?
The text in both implies that it lasts longer. Possession ends when the Kindred sleeps or voluntarily releases it. Earth Meld implies that it can be used to sleep with. Neither is explicit about it. There are another handful that the same question can be asked about, such as Heart of Darkness

When a vampire possesses someone, who's aura is visible?
The vampire's aura. However, I would say that with Aura Perception, you if you knew about Posession, you could ask to see what the aura under the possession looked like, or for evidence of Posession.

If if a vampire with diablerie streaks were to possess someone, the diablerie streaks would be visisble?
Yes.

What would a BSD's aura look like? Could a vampire tell it was "evil" with Aura Perception?
I don't think a thing like that would be visible in the aura. At best, if it was being checked for, the presence of derangements could be detected - but that's not going to tell much. The determination of "evil" vs "good" appears to reserved to the Master level Auspex power, Karmic Sight.

Blood Rage is mentioned as being able to raise a vampire from torpor. Can that be performed immediately after going to torpor?
Blood Rage allows you to control blood expenditure. The earliest a vampire can wake from a torpor is the limit mentioned under voluntary torpor. If performed in the same round as a torporing blow to heal beyond what a vampire could normally heal, I would probably allow it to stave off torpor.

If someone has had their heart removed and they have Aegis, does that stop the destruction effects listed in Heart of Darkness?
If the Heart is left in sunlight, the character can certainly spend Aegis to live for one turn, and then again for another turn. It quickly becomes pointless. Throwing the heart onto a fire is very similiar.

What if the Setite was trying to stake the heart? Could Aegis be used then?
Not unless the target knew that the Setite was going to stake them that specfic turn. Aegis is retroactive on damage (even from destruction which is why the sunlight thing works for one turn), but it won't remove side-effects like staking. Also the reason why the lower powers of Fortitude are not relevant in either situation.

Isn't destroying a heart a one-shot kill and therefore not allowed?
No, the character had to willingly allow someone to remove their heart over an hour. TANSTAAFL.

Can I lower the generation of my characer with Potency of Blood and then pump up to the new attribute limits?
Read Vampire 5.1, chapter 4. Potency of Blood does not give certain elements - trait maximums's being one of them.

Can Incorpeal Passage be used on ceilings and floors?
The answer depends greatly on the situation. By reading the ritual description, I can see possible situations where I would allow that as a narrator, and other times where I would not.

What approval level would a NPC Nosferatu in the Cam-Anarch venue with out-of-clan Viscisstude be?
For a NPC in the Cam-Anarch venue that would be at least High approval. Storytellers, please use the approvals website.

To learn Fortitude, will the student have to imbibe a trait of blood?
No - that's a rule from 4.5/4.7. In 5.0/5.1, the cardinal eight do not have that requirement (see LotNRev.)

What approval level are Necromancy paths not in LotNRev?
The only Necromancy Path which is not in LotNRev that we have is play is the Mortuus Path, which is listed as Top approval in Vampire 5.1. Any other path from another source would be new mechanics (until they are brought into Vampire chapter 5.)

Can you use Possession on a Garou?
LotNRev pretty clearly spells out that you can't possess a supernatural creature.

If the silver cord is cut on Psychic Projection, can someone use Summon to retrieve the lost soul?
The high umbra is frequently a dangerous place. Unless the summoned has some clue of how to navigate the high umbra and knows how to recognize and avoid the dangerous places in the high umbra and can get manage to find a safe path through and understands how to get back, then it's possible. Summing up: A fairly strong &qout;no".

If a Vessal of Transference is triggered, does it trigger one trait at a time, or the whole thing?
After reading the text in 5.1 and tabletop, both trigger the entire vessel.

If the damage from staking is negated, can the staking take place?
No, per 5.1. If you are going to use Aegis to do that, you need to do it before the staking tests. Doing it afterwards will only negate the damage, not the staking.

If I am using both hands with claws, can I use the two weapon rules?
No. Brawl assumes that you are using everything at your disposal, including hands, feet, head, elbows. Same thing applies to normal brawl attacks.

Prime 5.1, says I can specialize in Feral Claws. That feels too general. Is that ok?
Almost - it needs to be something which cannot be used in nearly all situations. Specializing in homid feral claws is clearly ok. Specizliaing in fighting claws in wolf form is clearly ok. There are an infinite number of situations where it would be specialized enough.

How long will a Splinter Servant run around if it can't catch the person?
Unless the ritual explicitly states otherwise, use a limit of one scene/hour.

Is it possible to have the benefits of Rapidity when firing a gun?
Yes, but you must meet the requirements for Rapidity to be effective, of course.

Mirror Reflexes will prevent a specfic opponent from using a retest. Will that stop them from canceling a retest?
If you look at the description of "canceling" in Prime, it states that to cancel, you must be able to use the retest that you will be canceling with.

Can "A Taste for Vitae" detect clan?
It doesn't list clan and there is a ritual (Bloodwalk) that can do that. Suggest the ritual to the players. I can see the discipline-path doing a few interesting things as situational calls, but that's another subject.

Would a Warding Circle versus Wraiths work again a Risen?
A Risen is still a Wraith - I would have it be effective. In other words, follow the rules for a Warding Circle.

If my Tzimisce goes into Bloodform, I can force myself down someone's throat and reform inside their stomach and burst out and kill them like Neo in the end of Matrix, right?
If you enter them you will be consumed by the victim like the vitae that you are. You might get a nice ghoul out of the deal after you die, however.

If you use Clairvoyance on someone who is possessing a ghoul, which do you see? The ghoul or the empty body?
I would say that as Auspex focuses on auras and the intanglies such as the soul, that it would see the ghoul. Same sort of question with Astral Projection. Do you see the projection or the empty body? Besides, doing otherwise would make it too easy for the Clairvoyance person to find the body and nab it.

Can I combine Shaft of Belated Quiescence with a Ward?
In general, I would say it won't be very effective, for as the Shaft is used, it breaks apart and that should end the ward.

Can I combine Splinter Servent with a Ward?
In general, most ST's will require that the wards be on rigid materials. I'd say a situational call. In general, I would be disinclined to allow the ward to continue after the servant had been activated. (Oddly enough, the current writeup of Servant doesn't require "speech" to activate it anymore.)

Can I ward cloth or clothing?
Generally I'd say no, citing that rigid materials rule of thumb mentioned above. However, it's a situational call.

Can I combine Belated Quiescence, Ward and Talisman Dedication?
In general, I would say that the breaking apart of the object, would render the Ward and Talisman no longer effective. A situational call.

Can animals or children see through obfuscate? I've seen a number of house rules over the years that say they can. I've also heard that they are uncomfortable but don't directly detect the obfuscated individual. The description in LOTN:R doesn't seem to mention animals or children
This is a question I would suggest asking on rulescircle and vampire-rules...

Depending on the situation, I would generally allow an animal to be a bit freaked out, but not specifically point out an intruder (too easy of a negation of a discipline.)

Depending on the situation, I might let a pariticular child on a particular night be able to see right through any obfuscate, but maybe it wouldn't work the next next... In other words, it would be quite hard to make it a PC tool, but extremely useful as a plot point.

Your mileage may vary.

If someone is standing in a bit of water and under obfuscate, are they automatically detectable - i.e feet shaped holes in the water? Same question for a mist in the air.
Nope, you won't see feet shaped holes in the water. However, if they move too quickly, they will most likely make themselves appear.

Obfuscate is a mental invisibility, not a physical one. Beaded curtains will not violate obfuscate (but running through them will.) Running alone will violate obfuscate. Snow will not violate obfuscate, but after the obfuscated person leaves, you might notice the footprints. Splashing paint around the room will not violate obfuscate, but later on the obfuscated person will have to clean themselves off and you might notice the clean spot on the floor where they stood after they leave.

If someone vanished last turn, can I turn a Splinter Servant loose on them?
You have to be able to pick out the target somehow to activate one. I'd put it under the same limitations that disciplines are per LotNRev. You must be able to sense the target someone, which means you'll have to defeat the Obfuscate first.

What if someone vanishes after I turn a Splinter Servant loose on them?
This is a good one. Splinter Servant isn't an obfuscate buster. However, I would say that it would still go after them, but you would ignore any evidance that the Splinter Servant demonstrates as to their position, etc., due to the Obfuscate. That may mean that it looks like the Splinter Servant is wandering around confused, or it vanishes as well, or any other number of possibilties. Time for a situational call.

What about Blood Contract? LotNRev states that aggravated damage beyond incapacitated does not send one to torpor, instead it destroys them. Is that a one-shot kill?
In this case, I'd say the rules for Blood Contract override that. Blood Contract will put you to torpor without destroying you. That isn't a one-shot kill either - as the character had to willingly sign the contract first.

Is Awe usable with Summon?
This is a situational call, not a ruling. If you look at Presence in LotNRev, it describes Prescence (in general) as requiring the user's face to be visible (p 167.) This requirement should be compared to the situation that Summon and Awe is being used in.

What disciplines can you use while staked? Especially Aupex. Is a staked vampire conscious or unconscious? What is the effect of blood bonds and conditioning times on a staked vampire?
Unless the discipline states you can use it while staked, I would say none. Staking completely paralyzes the vampire, but does not render them unconscious. Torpor will render them unconscious.

I can see the use of purely sensory disciplines in some cases (as long as they don't require touch, movement, blood or willpower.) For example: Heightened Senses. Maybe Aura Perception. Maybe Spirit's Touch (if someone places the object in their hand.) I wouldn't allow them to initiate Telepathy (but they might be able to talk back if someone else used it.) Definitely NO to Psychic Projection.

A staked vampire is conscious, but is completely paralyzed.

Blood bonding will be physically difficult, but not impossible with someone who is staked. There is no swallowing while staked.

Conditioning is a two way street - consider it to look sort of like someone hypnotizing someone else for a long period of time. "Your will is mine. ::dazedly:: My will is yours." If they were staked, I would require a minimum of Telepathy to even begin unless they were going to unstake them .

Keep in mind: Someone who is conditioned is rather obvious to other kindred and can't teach anything.

If someone has Majesty up, can I walk ten paces and then shoot?
Deciding to walk ten paces to do that sounds awfully offensive to me. I'd require the character to break Majesty first to do that.


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