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Troubleshooting the "Unexpected Event 5" error

June 4, 2002 ~ Last time I participated in an attempt to troubleshoot the "Unexpected Event 5" error (April '01) - an ASR-X user with a new, 2 GB SCSI attached hard drive had experienced this error message. My thinking at the time was: "hardware error - ASR-X requires service." This was incorrect - the clues were there, but were overlooked.

Another user felt certain, based on his own experience, the capacity of the hard drive exceeded that which the ASR-X could 'see.' He had previously tried a 2 GB Jaz drive which did not work and as a consequence assumed the ASR-X could not handle a disk capacity greater than 1 GB. The original ASR-X and X Pro are both DOS based machines and a FAT16, 2 GB drive (or partition) is the maximum capacity the ASR-X can 'see.' Jaz drives/disks have always been notoriously 'finicky' (that's a technical term) and they behave no better with the ASR-X then any other SCSI host.

The second user had a new, 2 GB SCSI attached hard drive which had been formatted using the ASR-X 'DiskUtilities: Format Disk?' option. He experienced the same "Event 5" error message as the first user had with the 2 GB Jaz disk. The first user recommended the second user reformat the 2 GB hard drive and try again (good suggestion as it turns out.) I've always used 100 MB Zip disks and CDROMs with my X Pro and never encountered an "Unexpected Event 5." I suppose the ASR-X OS is more fault tolerant of lower capacities and 'read only' media than devices capable of larger capacities but this is nothing more than speculation on my part...anyway, I never heard again from the second user as to whether he reformatted the 2 GB hard drive and if that action resolved the problem.

But now - finally! - the following, unsolicited post was sent to ASRXCITE regarding a more thorough effort to troubleshoot and document the "Unexpected Event 5." My thanks - again - to Paul Ryan for the generous use of his time and providing this write up for our benefit.


"Hi,

I found your board recently as I had to work on a 'red devil' with the dreaded "Unexpected Event 5" problem. I resolved the issue and thought your readers might want to know what I found.

The drive in question was a 4 gig Quantum and the machine was, of course, an ASR-X Pro. The guy who owned the machine had formatted the drive using the ASR-X - which then told him it was a 40 meg drive (not 4 gig) and crashed with the Event 5 error any time he wanted to save to it.

When he brought the drive to me, I hooked it up to a PC with a SCSI II interface and ran the DOS partitioning program 'FDISK'. FDISK told me that the drive was formatted FAT16, with a partition size of 4 gig (the total area of the drive). Now, this is IMPOSSIBLE - FAT16 refers to a File Allocation Table of 16 bits with a maximum size cluster of 32k.

Without getting too technical, this equates to 65,536 x 32k which gives a maximum possible size of 2 gig. This is the great limitation of FAT16 and why FAT32 was 'invented'. FAT16 cannot have a partition size of 4 gig - no wonder the red devil wasn't working...!!

Now, I don't know how or why the ASR-X could format the drive with this impossible formula but I can explain how I fixed it - repartitioned (using FDISK) and reformatted under DOS. I reset the SCSI ID to 2 (which Ensoniq recommends) as it was set to ID 1. I gave the drive back to my muso friend and he has been happily using it since - no "Unexpected Error 5."

A few hints would be NOT to format the drive on the ASR-X - beg borrow or steal a PC with a SCSI II interface and do the format on that machine. Second, be careful of formatting as FAT32 - if you format as FAT32 with a 2 gig partition (2048 meg) the size of the partition will actually be 2055 meg as the File Allocation Table itself takes up 7 meg of space. This 7 meg is ADDED to the partition size you set in FDISK.

So, if you absolutely HAVE to format as FAT32, DO NOT make the partition size larger than 2041 meg - I would recommend 2040 meg, just to be on the safe size.

I would recommend that you only format in FAT16 - the maximum FDISK will allow you to make the partition is 2047 meg - it automatically 'reserves' the 1 meg FAT16 requires for its File Allocation Table.

Secondly, make sure that you set the SCSI ID to 2. It definitely worked on the ASR-X I was involved with and I would love to know if it works on other machines - so if you use this info and it works, let me know at [email protected]

cheers

Paul R

 

BTW: I am a tafe teacher/tech working at the Northern Territory University, not a muso per se. The machine I worked on was on of the students in Contemporary music.

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Paul R Ryan
Arwana Design,
GPO Box 2746 Darwin, NT, 0801
Australia
[email protected]"


Addendum

June 4, 2002 ~ Please note the default SCSI ID for the ASR-X and X Pro is '2'. It's not a requirement the ASR-X be set specifically to ID 2 - just that no two SCSI ID numbers on a SCSI chain are identical. Setting two ID numbers to the same value is guaranteed to create a conflict.

Please be aware that IDs 0 and 1 are frequently used for internal hard drives on host systems, 3 or 4 are commonly used for CD-ROM drives, 5 or 6 are used for Zip drives, and 7 is typically the host CPU.

Ensoniq formerly set their devices (ASR-10/TS-10/EPS16+) to SCSI ID 3 and it was *unchangeable* I think it is a safe guess when Ensoniq moved away from proprietary disk systems and implemented a DOS based system with the ASR-X somebody intentionally chose ID 2 to avoid a conflict with their legacy products.

An excellent primer on SCSI 'Introduction to SCSI Storage' can be found in the ASR-X Pro Reference Manual on pages 82-88 followed by a detailed explanation regarding the File Types that can be saved on pages 88-90 and File Types that can be loaded on pages 90-92.

For further reading on this subject check out the 'ASR-X Getting Started Guide' and our intro to SCSI Connections.

JL

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