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From: joexc | Posted: 4/29/2003 9:58:27 PM | Message Detail

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From: Major Zadok | Posted: 4/29/2003 11:28:27 PM | Message Detail

Zelda 9.23

Total: 4.30.16 and falling :) Go Me! (Dropped 10 seconds in one day) Hoping to drop more time this weekend and the rest of this week

I can do better with Shiek...I think I can even get into the low 7s if I put some time into it...the Triforce Jump turns out to not be that hard

From: marth1 | Posted: 4/30/2003 3:26:24 PM | Message Detail

fluffy: I'll play btt today....so be on AIM to help me...
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HRC Total: 92,785.4 Feet

From: YoungBlood | Posted: 4/30/2003 5:21:00 PM | Message Detail

Hey guys wassup it looks like this topic is moving a long pretty good. I am totally stuck in HRC so I guess I will come back here. I am so tired of having the same score. I am really close to performing the sub9 Fox strat and the sub 8? zelda strat. Here is a list of all my times. Fell free to give advice. Thnx in advance.

Dr. Mario-----------------------14.16
Mario----------------------------11.82
Luigi-----------------------------5.15
Bowser---------------------------10.13
Peach-----------------------------12.16
Yoshi-----------------------------10.85
Donkey Kong-------------------11.16
Captain Falcon-----------------10.70
Ganondorf-----------------------6.65
Falco------------------------------9.06
Fox--------------------------------9.38
Ness-------------------------------16.13
Ice Climbers--------------------14.70
Kirby-----------------------------15.43
Samus----------------------------12.46
Zelda-----------------------------8.18
Link------------------------------5.03
Young Link---------------------8.63
Pichu-----------------------------9.16
Pikachu--------------------------9.77
Jigglypuff------------------------10.58
Mewtwo--------------------------7.26
Mr. Game and Watch--------3.80
Marth----------------------------12.25
Roy--------------------------------7.77

Total-----------------------------4:12.45

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From: marth1 | Posted: 4/30/2003 5:29:41 PM | Message Detail

Peach -- 12.95
Total -- 4:39.01

Thnx fluffy, got any other strats for me besides Doc? Thanks..

YoungBlood: Improve Kirby....sub 14 is easy....
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From: zell99 | Posted: 4/30/2003 5:45:19 PM | Message Detail

YoungBlood, i'd try to lower Jigglypuff (sub 9), Kirby (low 15), Samus (sub 11 maybe?), Pichu (well.. you'd have to try the sub 7 strat =//), Yoshi (mid 9s)... that's what I would start with.. oh and Doc 13.4x
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From: joexc | Posted: 4/30/2003 9:40:29 PM | Message Detail

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From: The Amazing One | Posted: 5/1/2003 11:17:21 AM | Message Detail

YoungBlood, you have the same total me! Well, you used to, until:

Zelda: 8.24

Total: I forget. Around 4:12.20
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From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/1/2003 8:51:59 PM | Message Detail

YoungBlood, Yoshi and bowser. What are the strats for 8sec zelda and 9sec fox?
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From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/1/2003 9:11:41 PM | Message Detail

Yoshi sub10 strat:

1) Jump then quick double jump while moving right and throw an egg hard to the left (up B then hold the up long and quickly move the stick right).

2) Fastfall last, and then turn and rejump and quickly double jump, lob an egg upwards and left.

3,4,5,6) Before you land B down, and go from the target right under you to the right and hit the two targets, then come back left and hit the one far under where you start.

7) Break out of your egg and dash left, jump and aerial neutral A the target in the air.

8) Double jump and up A the target in the backwards C. You should be very close to hitting the ceiling, just make sure you do the up A and it'll work fine. Don't swith to the next move too quickly.

9,10) Falling down, do a back A through the wall to hit the next two targets.

Goal: sub10 CaptainFlufflez got: 9.60

Things to add: I think target 7 goes faster if you use an up A but I'm not so sure. You might have to small jump for that. Also, it's possible to wavedash between 6 and 7 but probably not more than once or twice.

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From: The Amazing One | Posted: 5/1/2003 9:30:25 PM | Message Detail

On step 3, of course you meant forward+B, not down+B =/
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From: YoungBlood | Posted: 5/2/2003 5:18:25 PM | Message Detail

Fluffy my strats for sub 8 zelda and sub 9 fox are both of the vids on Calfoolio's site. Except for Fox in which he wavedashes. I can not do that.

It seems like i have a lot to improve on.

My goals are sub 15 kirby.
Sub 9 fox.
Sub 8 zelda.
Sub 8 pichu.
Sub 5 luigi.
sub 16 ness.
sub 14 doc
Sub 10 bowser
Sub 10 jiggly

Sub 3:50 total
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From: marth1 | Posted: 5/2/2003 6:12:53 PM | Message Detail

Yoshi -- 9.90
G % W -- 4.00

Total -- 4:36.82

Thanks again to fluffy for the strats...
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From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/3/2003 2:00:36 PM | Message Detail

Yoshi - 9.41

I got inspired by my strat. I'm gonna work on sub10 jiggly now I think. Although I dont' seem to be ending up far enough to left after I hit the first two targets. Any suggestions anyone?
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From: marth1 | Posted: 5/3/2003 2:36:29 PM | Message Detail

i can't even do the burner hit....

;_;

explain plz...
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From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/3/2003 5:04:31 PM | Message Detail

Roy - 7.82
Kirby - 14.97

w00t.
24/25 sub 15

That Kirby strat was a little bit messed up and retarded but it worked nice and well. To do the burner hit you have to backwards jump from right to left onto the leftmost part of the bottom burner, then press X or Y to jump almost right away and hit the next target, then it'll keep throwing you through. Also marth1, M64M updated his FAQ. Should I go for Ness sub15 now, or just concentrate on my total? I'm getting close.
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From: MetalKirby | Posted: 5/3/2003 8:31:48 PM | Message Detail

Kirby - 13.97
Total: 3:59.80

See ya.
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HRC Total: 81825.7 BtT Total: 4:01.65

From: zell99 | Posted: 5/3/2003 9:12:18 PM | Message Detail

fluff- when you small jump neutral+A, smash left AS SOON as you hit target 1 and your jump (after you landed) should have enough lenght to land on the first bumper..

as for the bumper hit, marth1, just let jiggly land on the first bumper and it will propel her to the left, as soon as it does, press Y or whatever to mid-air-jump, then forward+A... from there, fast-fall and go through the last set of bumper, and go on..
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From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/3/2003 10:38:51 PM | Message Detail

Ok, so I'll work on Jiggly next I guess then. I think Mario would also be an easy character to take time off of for me. We'll see what I can do tomorrow.
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From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/4/2003 12:51:44 PM | Message Detail

Roy - 7.57

I think I'll try to put together an Intermediate Hall of Fame now. I'll check back through everyone's times to see stuff, and then I'll post whatever I can. I think I know which ones I have and I know at least one that Marth1 has =P.
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From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/4/2003 1:34:28 PM | Message Detail

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From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/4/2003 1:40:32 PM | Message Detail

Intermediate Hall of Fame

Dr. Mario----------13.46------CaptainFlufflez
Mario---------------11.05------The Amazing One
Luigi-----------------04.92------SN 1989
Bowser-------------09.26------Mister DAN
Peach--------------12.03------CaptainFlufflez
Yoshi---------------09.41------CaptainFlufflez
Donkey Kong----10.90------CaptainFlufflez
C. Falcon---------10.70------YoungBlood
Ganondorf--------06.48------AKC12
Falco---------------07.57------AKC12
Fox-----------------09.38------YoungBlood
Ness---------------16.13------YoungBlood
Ice Climbers-----13.87------PrinceTidus
Kirby---------------12.97------Marth1
Samus------------11.85------AKC12
Zelda---------------07.85------PrinceTidus
Link-----------------04.93------Major Zadok
Y. Link-------------08.23------AKC12
Pichu---------------08.95------Major Zadok
Pikachu------------08.77------SN 1989
Jigglypuff----------08.90------Major Zadok
Mewtwo-----------06.68------The Amazing One
G & W-------------03.33------Major Zadok
Marth--------------11.01------joexc
Roy-----------------07.41------Major Zadok

Total: 3:56.04

Sub 4:10 Expert 1337z

No one is this 1337 yet

Sub 4:20 Intermediate pWn Machinez

CaptainFlufflez [4:10.77] {4}
The Amazing One [4:12.20] {2}
YoungBlood [4:12.45] {3}
PrinceTidus [4:14.09] {2}
AKC12 [4:16.25] {4}

Sub 4:30 Super Intermediates

giggs [4:23.97]

Sub 4:45 Elite Playaz

Major Zadok [4:30.16] {5}
SN 1989 [4:35.07] {2}
Marth1 [4:36.82] {1}
joecx [4:38.99] {1}
Falcon815 [4:42.40]

Sub 5:00 Hardcore Playaz

KrazyAznBoi [4:58.67]

Sub 5:30 Intermediate Squad

Mister DAN [5:06.52] {1}
PYh189 [5:24.95]
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 4:10.77 || HRC 34,052.5
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From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/4/2003 1:42:53 PM | Message Detail

If you see changes that need to be made, want to be added, or didn't get credited for a record just let me know and I'll fix things up for ya.
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From: joexc | Posted: 5/4/2003 5:37:39 PM | Message Detail

Uh.... my Ganodorf's 6.45

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From: chronorox | Posted: 5/4/2003 6:43:06 PM | Message Detail

good job and thanks for the update fluffy =)

but i have 7.06 roy and 10.82 Dk(when i learn to l cancel ill go sub 9.5 >_<)

yar...and my game is telling me my total is 4:50.77

keeeep smashin

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Pokemon Snap Report Score - 287 770

From: joexc | Posted: 5/4/2003 6:54:29 PM | Message Detail

chronorox -

What did you for Roy? I can never get that one right....

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Like the moon over the day, my genius and brawn are lost on these fools. -Bowser
Des ecargots attaquent les maisons bretonnes. - IB test

From: star52789x2 | Posted: 5/4/2003 7:21:37 PM | Message Detail

from marth1
jiggs - 9.73
total - 4:35.85
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/¯ _/,------,,----,,------,HRC TOTAL:79,0xx.x
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From: chronorox | Posted: 5/4/2003 7:44:30 PM | Message Detail

mmm roys is easy...i just cant seem to sub 7 it....if i could l cancel/ fast fall at the right times maybe i could =/

anyway..

1,2,3,4 - jump forward b.....double jump forward a...forward b

5 - maximum double jump up+b

6 - running jump forward a

7 - double jump forward b

8- forward b OVER bumper

9, 10 - fastfall (the bit i nver do >_<) up b

and that will get u 7 flat at best probably....

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"I got to close to Sin, and..."....."I felt him, inside me" - Tidus, FFX
Pokemon Snap Report Score - 287 770

From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/4/2003 8:49:12 PM | Message Detail

Seems to me you just got a lucky run. The forward B for the first target is the only thing that you're doing different than I am that would make you go faster. I do a forward A, double jump down A, L cancel, Forward B for the first four targets and so does Senju and so do a couple of our gamefaqs pros. Dunno if the forward A for target 2 works better but it seems to me that it shouldn't be faster. I'll see what I can do though since Roy is a fun one.
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 4:10.77 || HRC 34,052.5
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From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/4/2003 9:29:55 PM | Message Detail

Marth - 11.15
Kirby - 14.80

Had these earlier and forgot to post them. I need to decide what to work on next. Mario probably. I think I can sub11.
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 4:10.45 || HRC 34,052.5
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From: chronorox | Posted: 5/4/2003 9:57:15 PM | Message Detail

yeh i love roy because u can just pick up and play....without having to work yourself into it....eg. ness, IC...

forward A's are definately faster....because forward b's stop u almost dead while u swing...but forward b's are a little safer because it doesnt throw u as high.....thats the way i see it anyway....
i should learn to L cancel >_<

fluffy go for Doc WR?? if u can do 13 46 u can do 13 40 right? :o is it hard to go from the 13.8x strat to the 13.4 strat?

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"I got to close to Sin, and..."....."I felt him, inside me" - Tidus, FFX
Pokemon Snap Report Score - 287 770

From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/4/2003 10:14:13 PM | Message Detail

It was hard to adjust to doing the WR strat at first. It took me a long time to figure out what to do and how to get the targets. My 13.46 was a lucky run. I haven't sat down and actually played doc since then, but I can easily get the first 5 targets. It's getting 6,7 that bugs the crap out of me. I can't seem to hit both of them with teh same up A anymore. Once I decide to get the WR, I'll watch the vid again. Then 8 is hard to hit and slip. I usually get one or the other. 9 is easy. 10 is just timing.
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 4:10.45 || HRC 34,052.5
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From: marth1 | Posted: 5/5/2003 3:28:48 PM | Message Detail

hey can someone plz give me a sub 15 IC strat?
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Home-Run Contest Total: 92,923.6 Feet

From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/5/2003 4:18:25 PM | Message Detail

Ice Climbers Sub15

1) Dash right, fastfall, jump right forward A hitting target and breaking ceiling.
2) Jump up and right, land. Double jump up onto next plat but in air before landing, neutral B left.
3)Double jump and aerial back A the target on the next plat up. Double jump onto the cloud.
4) Single jump up A onto the next plat.
5,6) Single jump up and left. Then double jump straight up and neutral B so that you break both the target right on top of you and the one down and left. You should land on the cloud.
7) Jump onto the next platform up and neutral B off it to the right.
8,9) Jump up to the next plat but on your way up A the target in the top left corner. Then neutral B off the platform and to the right.
10) Get the last target however you're supposed to.

Goal: Sub15 CaptainFlufflez Time: 14.43

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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 4:10.45 || HRC 34,052.5
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From: marth1 | Posted: 5/5/2003 4:27:02 PM | Message Detail

thanks fluffy.....you always come through....i'll try it later
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Home-Run Contest Total: 92,923.6 Feet

From: marth1 | Posted: 5/5/2003 7:55:21 PM | Message Detail

IC -- 14.65

Total: 4:31.67

This should be sub-13....i'll get it later....

Keep the strats coming fluffy!!!1
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HRC Total: 92,946.2 Feet

From: Major Zadok | Posted: 5/5/2003 8:37:33 PM | Message Detail

Been a while...Other then a minor update and that I am now under 4:30 YAY! :)

Zelda 8.16

Total: 4.29.03 and STILL falling...I will try some more later this week...Finishing a class my Computer Science Major.

Peace

Da' Major

From: joexc | Posted: 5/5/2003 8:42:33 PM | Message Detail

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From: Major Zadok | Posted: 5/5/2003 8:43:26 PM | Message Detail

I know this was really close to my last post but really...seriously...Can anyone help with with my heinous scores of Kirby, Fox, Falco, and Ness...I have the vid strats for all of these...but...well....yeah....these four are separating me from sub 4 minutes...or they are at least key to that...any help? Samus could use a Boost too!

*shuns away* makes my Link and G&W scores look like crap!

Kirby 16.73
Samus 13.73
Fox 12.85
Falco 10.73
Ness 18.36 :( <----soo saad

Also I still can't do Peach's turnip catch. I don't think I fully understand the L-Cancel thingy...I have never used it and I am doing decent. I bet I could do better with exp and learning.

Thanks!

From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/5/2003 9:12:01 PM | Message Detail

There's no L-Canceling in Peach, it's an air catch which is the Z button. Marth1, what strat do you want next? And if that I.C. is sub14 the way I posted it, let me know because then I'll get it. =P
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Mario Sunshine-120 Shines || BtT 4:10.45 || HRC 34,052.5
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From: marth1 | Posted: 5/5/2003 9:16:23 PM | Message Detail

fluffy: i made some modifications to the IC strat you gave me...i'm basically gonna do Ken's vid strat....

next strat?...hmmm....how about mew2? (sub 6ish plz) thanks
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HRC Total: 92,946.2 Feet

From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/5/2003 10:00:20 PM | Message Detail

My mewtwo is 6.78 so I don't know if I can be of much help. Here's an idea. Dr. Mario 14 second strat. It takes 5 minutes at most to get it and it'll cut 5 seconds off of your time. It's worth it. I know the sub5 mewtwo strat. =P I'll give it to ya on AIM, but you can get it by watching the vid.
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From: Major Zadok | Posted: 5/6/2003 12:00:58 AM | Message Detail

Gave it another go...this is what happened...

Jigglypuff 8.77

Total: 4.28.97

Yay! Good Luck...

From: Kraizyaznboi | Posted: 5/6/2003 10:31:37 AM | Message Detail

pst...
it took me at least 5 hours not 5 mins to get the 14 second mario :) mayb i just suck
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btt total : 4:58:67 hrc total : 35846.5

From: Major Zadok | Posted: 5/6/2003 10:36:53 AM | Message Detail

Captain, when I said I didn't know about the L-Canceling I wasn't talking about Peach's level. I was talking in general if anyone could explain the L-Canceling idea to me.

And if possible a more specific on the item catching. I have heard it is the Z button a while now and one person told me you have to be directly above the item you are catching, or that it helps to be. Any thought or more exact directions?

Thanks!
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Da' Major

From: The Amazing One | Posted: 5/6/2003 2:55:12 PM | Message Detail

Roy: 7.70

Total: I'm not sure. 4:12.xx
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Now... how do I get out of here?

From: CaptainFlufflez | Posted: 5/6/2003 5:55:53 PM | Message Detail

L-Cancel is actually short for Landing Cancellation (not L because you press the L button). You press the air dodge button right when you are near the ground. You could do this in the original smash brothers for N64. If done correctly, you will have near-instant recovery after you hit the ground. It is only helpful in a couple of stages such as Bowser, Kirby, and DK. All you do is press L near the ground. As for air catching, just wait until you pass the item in Peach's stage and press the Z button. You'll be above it or close to above it. That's all as much help as I can give. Practice just doing those targets a bit. I'm gonna lower my Roy later if I can.
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From: Major Zadok | Posted: 5/6/2003 6:22:28 PM | Message Detail

Thanks Captain! Good Luck on Roy! I haven't been able to come near my Roy time of 7.41.

I am off to try for getting below 4:28.00 l8er! :)
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BtT: 4:28.97 (5/5/03) HrC: 29,098 Ft (5/4/03)

From: chronorox | Posted: 5/6/2003 6:57:43 PM | Message Detail

Zadok - doesnt L cancelling just suck :p Ive tried HOURS and HOURS on DK;s stage....so much so that im confident i could go sub 9.40!...but ive never gotten that Lcancel..... it ****'s me so bad -_-' i cant even tell if ive ever L cancelled before....even when constantly trying on the spot.....grrrr anyway....i might post my scores tomorrow or something, so everyone can laugh at my samus, IC, and link's times....

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Pokemon Snap Report Score - 287 770

From: gob126 | Posted: 5/6/2003 7:01:37 PM | Message Detail

Uh...L-Cancelling is called L-Cancelling because you press the L button.....Hence why there is an R cancelling.
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