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ASR-X Filters
By members of the ASR-X list

April 19, 2003 ~ ASR-XChange, previously hosted by Scott Hansen, shutdown for good in late 2002. In addition to RealAudio demo's from ASR-X users, there was a selection of 'How To' articles contributed by the ASR-X list. I've reproduced those articles here at ASRXCITE. Thanks to Scott for his past efforts.


The following replies were in regards to an inquiry on the Filter structure of the ASR-X and possible uses. Scott H. compiled the replies into a single article.

 

Briefly:

The ASR-X has low pass, high pass, and bandpass filters. A low bass cuts highs ('passes' lows) a high pass cuts lows ('passes' highs) and a bandpass lets in frequencies around the band you set it at. ('Q' determines how wide that band is).

The filters are set up to go one-into-the-other ('series'), so if you dial up a low pass/high pass you may not here a thing because everything is being cut out.

There are also 'poles', which refer to the steepness or 'strength' of the filter- a 1-pole filter cuts 6db/octave. What that means is that a 1 pole low pass filter at 500hz cuts 6dB at 1kHz, and at 2Khz it would be down 12 dB. a 2-pole filter is twice as strong- 12dB/octave. 3pole= 18dB.

And if you're wondering about dB, every increase by 10 dB is 2x perceived loudness- (or 10X the watts if you want to know which amp to buy!)

Remember that the X uses arbitrary midi-based numbers (where there are only 128 values) so it's hard to set a value for the filter based on it's actual frequency- gotta use your ears. Try using an multi-band EQ and listening to what frequencies sound like- crank up 1k, 250hz, whatever. That'll help with learning to use the bandpass especially, which is important 'cause it's pretty cool.

On a side note, the Q is supposed to determine how wide the filter is but it sounds pretty resonant to me. Anyone know for sure? I think it does both.

cape


Try to have fun with this stuff and remember just because all those parameters are there waiting to be tweaked - doesn't mean you have to start with each and every one. Look at how popular the TB-303 became and it had what - six parameters? Get comfortable with the basics and the rest will follow:

Tuning (Pitch Envelope), Filter Cutoff (very important), Resonance (also important), Envelope Mod (often interacts with the filter cutoff setting), Attack & Decay (for the Amplitude Env).

These will get you immediate results. Then, when you start playing with the LFO(s): LFO to Pitch results in Vibrato, LFO to Amplitude results in Tremolo, and LFO to the Filter results in whacked out mod effects - fun, fun, fun!

Cape's write up on the filters is on the mark - you'll hear the difference between the filters on the X - they're not subtle!

Regards (and apologies to those for whom this old hat),

Jon


OK, first sample something. Assign it to a pad.

It'll say custom,name of sample etc. Once you have a sample ready to be used, go to the filter section by pressing edit in the sound section. You should first come to the choice section.

2poleLP/2poleLP etc. For a beginner with filters just mess with these parameters settings.

  1. Choose one of the types. (HP or LP or Resonant
  2. Make sure it's functioning independent (under filter section)
  3. Filter 1 will be the left of the forward slash and filter 2 will be the right.
  4. If you want it to sound "crisper" make one of the filters a hp.
  • When you do that you will notice you're sound is really crisp at first and really low in volume.
  • Go to whichever number it corresponds to and lower it from 127 to a number that is less high end.
  • If you want it that highly filtered, just raise the volume.

The dual LP filters just make it "lowendy" while the HP make it "highendy"

That at least is a starting point.

Ivan.


Yeah, y'know it took me awhile to figure out how great the filters are too. Now I can't live without em. Here's some quick info on what they can do....

The regular low pass (LP) ones are good for reducing noise or getting only the bass sounds of a sample. Basically they say to the X only let frequencies below a certain point pass through. Listen a vinyl sample over and over as you bring down the filter cutoff. First you'll hear the crackle and hiss start to go away. As you bring it down further you go deeper into a the bass frequencies until its all you hear. I like to do evil sounding fade-ins of a track by slowly raising the filter cutoff from 0 rather than fading in the volume.

All that's kinda handy but the resonant filters are where its really at. They basically do the same thing but also make the sound resonate at the assigned cutoff frequency (I think. someone else can really explain *how* they work I just know how they sound.)

Sequence a bass line for example and set the sound's filter to resonant2LP/2LP. Set the filter's Link= FLT2 uses FLT1. This makes the filter's effects more pronounced by linking two filters in a series. You can set FLT2's settings independently but most times with the resonant filters I find it's easier to link them. Set the resonance up a bit (maybe to 15 as a start) Now while the sequence is going start reducing the filter's cut off. You can start to hear that acidy woosh going on. Move the resonance up a you'll start to really hear a difference. Generally the higher the resonance the lower the cutoff point must be to hear anything besides a high whine.

The resonant filters are really fun for filter sweeps - rising and falling as the sequence goes. You can set the filter's initial settings in the sound's parameters. Then change 'em easily as the sequence goes by adjusting the *track's* filter resonance and cutoff mod amounts. You can record these sweeps by setting the record mode to Track Mix.

Play around with the resonant filters sweeping the cutoff amount using different sampled sounds and you'll start to see their potential.

Hope this basic stuff helps. I'd love to hear other's comments too cuz I'm pretty much a beginner too when it comes to filters.

-z


Tip o the day:

Use the Panning effect to synchronize your brain waves!

Set up Spinner->Rev and Input+Effect, and either your favorite song or some soothing sounds. Listening through your headphones, set the pan to 100% Wet, and LFO 10 Hz. Close your eyes. Keep your hand on the adjust knob. After a minute, go down to 9 Hz. Another minute, down to 8 Hz. Move down approx. 1 Hz per minute to 5.5 Hz. Breathe deep and slow from your abdomen. Leave there for a few minutes. You may feel dreamy or dizzy or peaceful. Relax. Think about things you've never thought before...Go down to 5.4 for a minute...5.3....let your mind go....work you way down to 4.5 or 4.0 and you will start to lose it...move gradually back up to 8, then back down to 5 again slowly. Enjoy the pretty streams of images.

Try listening to a nice, heavy trance beat & bass line, with the noise/synths going through the panning and meditation.

Use two pairs of headphones with your friend to trip out together.

It works with some other effects, too.

-Noah

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