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How do I make Samples/Drums to sound right
By beatcrocker and Christian Onken

April 19, 2003 ~ One of my favorite, recent posts to the ASR-X List:

>> I am a hip hop producer and I just got teh ASR X based on it's legendary status, I have sampled my drums and I would like to sequence them with a proper 4/4 time flow. Either the count sounds like its off or my samples are ,(maybe Im not sampling them on the right time for the ASRX) but somthing is ,,everyone says how gritty the machine nad how you can make phat Hip Hop beats , Someone Please Help me! I have also checked out every website ,,from chiken to this , and I still cant remedy teh situation. Not e I have also tried shifting the tracks after quantixe and this doesn't seem to help either...Make this ASR work for me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <<

To which Christian calmly replies:

"Try using the internal sounds first and bang out a beat that way. Quantize it up and trim it to a 2 or 4 bar loop. If you can do this correctly and it sounds right, then you need to work on editing your samples. Its possible that they have some bit of silence at the beginning which it throwing the timing off. In this case, the pads would be playing exactly when you told them to, only not producing any sound until a little later. If this is not the case, practice with the internal sounds and make sure you know how to sequence on the box. If you can't do the above with the internal sounds you should work on your timing and/or learn the quantizing functions better, i.e. study the manual.

The internal sequencer should be good for a couple tracks simultaneous at least. I can do 6-7 tracks at 130 BPM on my X without hiccups unless I'm switching between tracks trying to mute them in and out and such. One track of drums shouldn't be any problem at all. If you go and get an MMT-8 and sequence with that it will probably confuse and frustrate you, and then you loose all the great swing quantize feel on the X... the MMT-8 is only like 48 ppqn...

start simple with internal sounds, simple beats, work your way up. start with a boom...bap...boom...bap. stop recording. quantize it to 16ths. play it back and see if you got it. record again, add hihats, t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t. quantize to 16ths. play it back. do it again until you've got the beat right, undo is your friend. Move to another track, add a bass line, another track, keys, another track... etc...

Make sure that on your first pass through recording in a sequence you stop IN the measure you want it to loop on. For instance, if you want a loop 4 measures long, be sure to hit stop before the 4th measure ends or you will end up with a 5 measure loop. This can be fixed later, but its easier to get it right the first time. If you want a 2 bar loop, hit stop in the second measure. This only goes for the first time through in a sequence. If you get it right the first time on the first track,your recording passes in that sequence will all loop back to the beginning right when you want them to and you don't have to hit stop in the last measure anymore.

If you're doing hip hop stuff, most of that stuff is based on 16ths. Quantize to 16ths. Once you get your head around the machine and want to push the envelope a little, start playing with 32nds and triplets and such. Experiment with the swing. I LOVE the feel of the X's swing. If I want something to groove, I always sequence it on the X, even if it won't be playing it in the end.

I've assumed that you're working with individual drum samples, not a loop. If you're working with a loop you need to cut it so that beginning and ending match up, and then make sure that the tempo of the X exactly matches the tempo of your loop.

This just takes time and practice.

Out of curiosity, how long have you been a hip hop producer?

Any experience with drum machines, other samplers, acoustic instruments? "

Christian Oncken
www.urbanjazznaturals.com

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