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How
do I make Samples/Drums to sound right April
19, 2003 ~ One of my favorite, recent posts to the
ASR-X List: >>
I am a hip hop producer and I just got teh ASR X
based on it's legendary status, I have sampled my
drums and I would like to sequence them with a
proper 4/4 time flow. Either the count sounds like
its off or my samples are ,(maybe Im not sampling
them on the right time for the ASRX) but somthing
is ,,everyone says how gritty the machine nad how
you can make phat Hip Hop beats , Someone Please
Help me! I have also checked out every website
,,from chiken to this , and I still cant remedy teh
situation. Not e I have also tried shifting the
tracks after quantixe and this doesn't seem to help
either...Make this ASR work for me !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
<< To
which Christian calmly replies: "Try
using the internal sounds first and bang out a beat
that way. Quantize it up and trim it to a 2 or 4
bar loop. If you can do this correctly and it
sounds right, then you need to work on editing your
samples. Its possible that they have some bit of
silence at the beginning which it throwing the
timing off. In this case, the pads would be playing
exactly when you told them to, only not producing
any sound until a little later. If this is not the
case, practice with the internal sounds and make
sure you know how to sequence on the box. If you
can't do the above with the internal sounds you
should work on your timing and/or learn the
quantizing functions better, i.e. study the manual.
The
internal sequencer should be good for a couple
tracks simultaneous at least. I can do 6-7 tracks
at 130 BPM on my X without hiccups unless I'm
switching between tracks trying to mute them in and
out and such. One track of drums shouldn't be any
problem at all. If you go and get an MMT-8 and
sequence with that it will probably confuse and
frustrate you, and then you loose all the great
swing quantize feel on the X... the MMT-8 is only
like 48 ppqn... start
simple with internal sounds, simple beats, work
your way up. start with a boom...bap...boom...bap.
stop recording. quantize it to 16ths. play it back
and see if you got it. record again, add hihats,
t.t.t.t.t.t.t.t. quantize to 16ths. play it back.
do it again until you've got the beat right, undo
is your friend. Move to another track, add a bass
line, another track, keys, another track...
etc... Make
sure that on your first pass through recording in a
sequence you stop IN the measure you want it to
loop on. For instance, if you want a loop 4
measures long, be sure to hit stop before the 4th
measure ends or you will end up with a 5 measure
loop. This can be fixed later, but its easier to
get it right the first time. If you want a 2 bar
loop, hit stop in the second measure. This only
goes for the first time through in a sequence. If
you get it right the first time on the first
track,your recording passes in that sequence will
all loop back to the beginning right when you want
them to and you don't have to hit stop in the last
measure anymore. If
you're doing hip hop stuff, most of that stuff is
based on 16ths. Quantize to 16ths. Once you get
your head around the machine and want to push the
envelope a little, start playing with 32nds and
triplets and such. Experiment with the swing. I
LOVE the feel of the X's swing. If I want something
to groove, I always sequence it on the X, even if
it won't be playing it in the end. I've
assumed that you're working with individual drum
samples, not a loop. If you're working with a loop
you need to cut it so that beginning and ending
match up, and then make sure that the tempo of the
X exactly matches the tempo of your loop.
This
just takes time and practice. Out
of curiosity, how long have you been a hip hop
producer? Any
experience with drum machines, other samplers,
acoustic instruments? " Christian
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