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Real Time Control of the ASR-X

The following is my response to a post on the ASR-X Mailing regarding Real Time Control of the ASR-X with a Yamaha CS1x. Note that I use a Yamaha AN1x which offers a more advanced implementation of the 'Assign Knobs' originally implemented on the CS1x.

> Q. Is it possible to control and manipulate FX when the 'X' is in pattern mode?

I've been meaning to reply to this as I use an AN1x which has similar control functions to your CS1x. I haven't tried to manipulate the effects in pattern mode but, I don't see why it would not work. Read on...

> If so is it over MIDI ?

Yes, it does work quite well over MIDI. The CS1x has six Control Knobs. Four of which are pre assigned for AmpEnv Attack, Release, Filter Cutoff, and Resonance - and two more which function as Assign Knobs. If you are already familiar with the procedure to assign MIDI CC's to your 'Assign Knobs' you are halfway there...

> I had a go at controlling the FX over MIDI in normal mode using a Yamaha CX1 but the real time controllers had very little effect, It may be the way I set it up. Anyway I would be interested if any one has used a CSX1 like this and would appreciate a step by step guide to set up the 'X' with the Yamaha.

Pages 41-46 of the Reference Manual give an overview of the Insert Control Track. What the manual fails to mention is that some of the presets are already setup for real time control. I noticed this as I was scrolling through the available options but I didn't take note of which did / did not.

Lesson One:

Select Edit under the EFFECTS Menu. Reply 'Yes' to the Edit insert effects? prompt.

Use the Parameter Knob to scroll through the options until you see Mod Src= (depending on which preset you start from there may/may not be a value already present.) I used DDL->Chorus for this example.

Turn to page 45 of the Reference Manual and you will see a list of default MIDI CC from which you may select. For this example I used ModWheel.

Use the Value Knob to scroll through the options until the display reads Mod Src= ModWheel.

Use the Parameter Knob to scroll through the next few options until you see Dest= (this will be the parameter that is altered when you move the Mod Wheel on your controller.)

Use the Value Knob to scroll through the options - I chose Dly1Feedback from within the DDL->Chorus preset.

Pick a sound and a track to work from - set the track to use the Insert Effect.

Make certain your CS1x is transmitting on the identical MIDI Channel, i.e., Track 1 on your ASR-X will receive MIDI Ch. 1 data from your controller and so forth...

As you play the CS1x use the Mod Wheel to alter the Delay1 Feedback rate. You should be hearing the effect alteration.

Lesson Two:

Setup an Assign Knob on you CS1x to transmit MIDI CC 91 'Rev Send'.

Turn to page 120 of the Reference Manual. There is a table 'MIDI Controllers Reception Behavior'. Notice that MIDI CC 91 will function as the FX Bus Select. This will permit you to change the LightReverb, MediumReverb, WetReverb, Dry setting on the ASR-X.

Assign a sound to a track on the ASR-X.

Make certain the effects bus is set to anything other than Insert and set up your CS1x to transmit on the same channel as the track you selected (Ch 2 / Track 2 or whatever.)

As you play the CS1x move the Assign Knob which you setup to transmit MIDI CC 91 - you'll hear the Reverb setting change as you play.

Note: If the FX Bus= Prog, Dry, or any of the three reverb setting then the ASR-X will respond accordingly to MIDI CC #091. If FX Bus= Insert than MIDI CC# 091 will have no effect.

Another Note: I experimented with the GlobalReverb Amt= in my Insert Effect and found that MIDI CC #091 will NOT alter this setting in real time nor does it appear that it is available as a Mod Source destination under Edit Insert Effects...bummer.

Unfortunately, I've yet to find an alternate method of controlling the Reverb Wet/Dry mix other than this. If someone knows a better way - I'm all ears. This appears to be a limitation of the Reverb effects only - not the Insert Effects.

Lesson Three:

Setup an Assign Knob on you CS1x to transmit MIDI CC 02 'Breath Controller' (any unused MIDI CC value will do, actually.)

Then, on the ASR-X select System under the Disk/Global menu - enter YES to the Edit MIDI Setting? prompt.

Use the Parameter knob to scroll to CTRL1= You'll notice that it is already set to Breath #002. If, in Step 1, you assigned any other MIDI CC # to an Assign Knob on your CS1x then obviously you'll want to set CTRL1= to the same value. Use the Value Knob to scroll the MIDI CC #'s on your ASR-X until you find the identical MIDI CC # your CS1x will transmit.

Go back to "Lesson One - Step 4' and select CTRL1 rather than ModWheel.

Play your CS1x while turning the Assign Knob you set up in Step 1 of this lesson to hear the effect changes.

Important Note:

Okay, now - turn back to page 120 of the Reference Manual and review that table again. If you transmit MIDI Control Changes such as 72, 73, 74, 76, & 77 to the ASR-X you'll be able to change the Amp Env Release, Amp Env Attack, Filter Cutoff, Amp Env Decay and Filter Resonance (respectively) in real time as you play your CS1x.

However, and this is where it gets tricky, Ensoniq did not implement the MIDI CC spec verbatim to the Yamaha implementation. Example: Yamaha uses MIDI CC #071 for Resonance where as Ensoniq uses MIDI CC #077. If you send MIDI CC #071 to the ASR-X you will likely not hear any effect. Why manufactures cannot implement a 'standard' the same as one another I do not know?! Ensoniq isn't at fault alone here.

You'll notice that in Lesson 1 I skipped over a few of the Edit Effects parameters like Mod Dest Min & Max. These are there for you to scale the amount of change you want to apply to the effects in real time. Tweak to your own liking...anyone got any favorite effects setting they care to share?

> Also I would like to point out that I have all my sounds and tracks routed to the AUX OUTS. Than the 8 outputs are wired to a 14 channel mixer. Now a lead is taken from one of the AUX send on the mixer to one of the inputs on the 'X', those inputs are routed to the FX chip. I connect the stereo out on the 'X' to channels 9 and 10 on the mixer. It is now possible to rout any of the mixers channels through the 'X' FX. I JUST WANT COMPLETE CONTROL IN REAL TIME!!!!!!!!!!

Who doesn't?!?! "Obey Me" is my motto! Just kidding ;-)

Well, I'm certain you already know that the AUX OUTS on the ASR-X cannot have the internal effects applied but it sounds as though you have the Source= parm set incorrectly. Did you try Input+Insert? I haven't even tried this yet :-( so that's all I can come with.

> Q.How good are the filters on the 'X' compared with the new ELECTRIX FILTER FACTORY.

Haven't heard an EFH(?) but, IMO, the ASR-X filters are superb!

> And can you control the 'X' filters over MIDI?

Yes.

> If so how using the Yamaha CSX1?

See Lesson Three above.

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