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Rollin' eZine Volume 1, Number 11 March 2001 ============= All Letters and eMail sent to Rollin' eZine may be edited for content and placed on the pages of the magazine at the discretion of the editorial staff. Letters are not to be copied without the express permission of Rollin' eZine.
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Feb. 1, 11:32 PM... I hate you. I hate you. I hate you. Now, I won't get to bed until 2 am. Billy Street
Gone from H-D to LD to: Larry Buck, I enjoyed your latest article about making the transition from H-D to LD. I am a few years younger than you, and have made the same transition. I have gone from a Road King to a Honda VFR to a Honda ST1100. I did my Saddle Sore 1000 in Dec. and plan to progress with the BB [Bun Burner] and BBG [...Gold] soon. I have a ticket to the march 9th IBA gathering at Daytona and hope to meet you there. I have heard about an IBA pizza party at Daytona; where / what is this- is this an invitational thing? Thanks, ronR [Don't get the terms? Visit Ironbutt.com] Some of the guys will probably have an informal get together on Thursday night (the 8th) at the Bulow Campground. It's kind of a chip-in affair with burgers, etc. Lots of fun and you can learn a lot. See you there. Larry
Loud Pipes: Yes! -- #1 You start the article with the very statement that those who claim loud pipes save lives use. "I could hear the bikes coming a mile away." As soon as you heard them, you started looking for them, didn't you? Now, pretend you are in a car at an intersection and you hear the same thing. Don't you immediately start looking for the bikes? If you are looking for them, you are much more likely to see them. That is the argument. I think that if you are riding with loud pipes, you shouldn't crack the throttle as you park. You no longer need to be seen then. But you have to admit that it works when everyone around looks for the source of the sound. By the way, my pipes are stock. Stuart Perkins
Loud Pipes: Yes! -- #2 Whew, you opened a big one this time! Opinions are like a**holes, everybody is entitled to one. I just don't happen to agree with yours however. Isn't America great! I do agree that there are loud pipes and then there are loud pipes. My bike has loud pipes and on at least one occasion I'm glad they are louder than stock. I was overtaking an automobile who was in the right turn only lane when, I assume he didn't want to turn right, he veered into my lane. A quick burp of my throttle woke him up and he moved back into 'his' lane and my being sideswiped was averted. I can hear you now. Why didn't you just use your horn? When riding in city traffic I always cover my brake and clutch levers, as well as keeping my hand on the throttle. As you well know, things can happen pretty fast in traffic and I don't keep my thumb on the horn button. So while grabbing clutch & brake, burping the throttle was the most expedient reaction. However, that's just my opinion. Ron
Loud Pipes: Just Rights Loud pipes may save lives but that is not the issue. When we start giving in to restrictions then others will follow. Also if motorcyclists can not live with the differences of other bikers then who will? Alan Shind
Loud Pipes: No! -- #1 I could not possibly agree with you more. Too bad your editorial can't be force fed to the imbeciles that ride with deafening pipes. Unfortunately most of them don't/can't read stuff like this. In my 45 years of riding I have witnessed innumerable instances of these "loud pipe" morons inflicting their warped point of view on the general non-riding public. There are few activities that one can engage in that have as large a negative impact on a greater number of people. There is no doubt in my mind that this behavior is a major contributor in further restriction of motorcyclists rights. The thing that amazes me is the fact that these nitwits seem to be able to get away with making all this racket without getting ticketed. I always thought that "excessive noise" was a ticketable offense. Apparently not. The fuzz must be busy catching real criminals, like seat belt offenders! Jay Franks
Loud Pipes: No! -- #2 Larry:
Stumbled across your editorial on Loud Pipes, while surfing the web
tonight. Actually, I had been checking the website for T.W.O and your
magazine was listed in the "links" section. The
"eZine" appears to be a good publication upon first
observation. I say that, because I haven't yet finished surfing through
all the departments. As far as the "Pipes"... Gotta say that I agree with you for the most part... Click Here to Read the rest of our Letter of the Month from Bill Phillips
HONNNKK!!: Yes -- #3 Totally agree on the issue of loud pipes. Too much bad feeling from the cages without setting them off, guilt by association I think they call it. However, a freaking LOUD horn is a great idea... Joe, Gilroy, CA.
Loud Pipes: No! -- #4 I
just read your editorial on LOUD pipes and could not agree with more. I
have been an aircraft technician for a little over 32 years and have lost
some hearing in both ears from working around jet engines. (Even with ear
plugs and "muffs" on.) One
of the editorials in a cycle magazine I read pointed out that the loud
pipes put noise behind you not in your most vulnerable area, up front. So
it would seem the only reason for 'neighbor waker' pipes is to annoy the
general populace. Your
editorial and my diatribe will probably not do much good, but people know
how we feel. Gary
Johnson Loud Pipe Lesson: No! #5 Well
Larry it's like this; I'm in complete agreement with you. Hell, I like a
good sounding bike, but, I can't stand an obnoxious sounding one. I'm an
instructor for the Georgia Motorcycle Safety Program (GMSP) and soon to be
for the "Rider Edge" program. So with that expertise under my
belt allow me to give a small lesson/scenario. One
of the highest risks to riders is in congested areas such as metropolitan
areas. Here we have traffic approaching from every angle, front, back, and
from each side. We've got grandma and grandpa (can't hear much anyway),
the inexperienced young driver, with friends, and hardly any or none have
had motorcyclist awareness training. So a rider throws on the straight
pipes and proceeds to blast his or her way through town, moving forward
while the exhaust note is pushed behind. Remember you said you could hear
them coming a mile away? I bet you could feel them coming as well, because
... it is a low frequency noise that is felt and humans have a hard time
identifying were the sound is coming from. So, they look right and the
rider approaches from the left. BAM! Let's keep in mind that this sound is
echoing off of every building, making it even more difficult for the
driver to ID the rider. The driver can be startled and when humans become
frightened they get very unpredictable. "Loud Pipes Save Lives"
B.S! All they do is increase the risk and piss people off (usually
non-riders). Instructing
several hundred people a year affords me opportunity to hear some of the
horror stories of the LOUD PIPE phenomenon. One was about the riders in
Savannah parking there motorcycle next to the eating area at a local
eatery (that I also like to go to when I'm there.) Well they would back
them in and when they would leave someone must have thought to be so kind
and rev those pipes to max dB, blowing dirt, sand and LOUD exhaust into
the patrons faces and food prior to leaving. I will let you guess if any
bikes can park there anymore, or anywhere in the vicinity. I'll give you a
hint it's easy to get a parking ticket in that area. Was it a right to
park there? No! It was a convenience, and because of the above mentioned
activity, we have all lost that opportunity, right or no right. Just my
two cents worth. Ride on! Tom
Komjathy MSF/GMSP
Instructor, DSK Inc.
Loud Pipes: No! -- #6 Agree with you 100% on loud pipes and the detrimental affects it has on riding. Keep up the good work. Dan Bennett Tallahassee, CBR 1000, Triumph Tiger, KLR 650, Scooter Scum, Labrador & Inuvik
Loud Pipes: No! -- #7 At last an editorial...that, that (I'm excited here) hits the nail on the head. Loud exhaust is a detriment to all (look it up). Firstly the negative impact it has on the general public (which make up the majority). How would you feel if you're driving your grandma to where ever and a hemi-Cuda pulls up beside you with open headers. You obviously can't hear squat as your ears start to bleed. The loud noise has invaded your space and they have nooooooo right to do that. Read the Constitution. There are laws limiting noise levels because when things are toooooo loud they damage your hearing. It's possible same brain cells go along with that, you make the call. That would explain a lot of things. I have sensitive hearing and have to plug my ears when those (well you know) go by. I have a Beemer and three Suzuki's and I like them to be a little louder than stock, I think it's cool. On a technical standpoint internal combustion engines need back pressure to operate properly. With no mufflers the bike (any bike) runs like S#*T!!! That might explain some of the shaking thing and the John Deere sound. My apologies to Deere and Co. Loud/no pipes are an annoyance and hazard to all and are a crime. Ken Solar The Water Buffalo Society Inc.
Loud Pipes: No! -- #8 'Loud pipes risk rights' is so right. Loud pipes are an annoyance at best. As you point out, they could risk a great deal for all motorcyclists. Unfortunately, as you found with people complaining about the sound of your bike, without having heard it, we are all viewed by the non-riding majority as inconsiderate and dangerous. Rolling Thunder type events just amplify this, literally. Whatever the laudable cause assigned to Rolling Thunder events, the event's name reveals their real motive: Mobile Noise. I have yet to meet a rider with loud pipes who rides for the love of riding. I think image is their primary concern, be it outlaws (originally nothing to do with law enforcement, but with racing motorcycles outside the rules of a racing federation) or 1%ers. I have no problem with the image, but when their actions affect how I am perceived, then it is time to speak out. I, for one, agree with you. Rider of a Triumph Trophy
1+3 = err... 7? Love your magazine, it really fits the way I ride. Nice to know there are people in Fla. that really can cast a ballot. Thanks Russell Peterson
2Cold+2Ride=4Reading Great website , love the jokes and rides, and experiences. It's great to find a reading spot when you can't ride Signs4Sale [maybe a nawthuner... ya thank?]
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