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I have been using an old Carter 9625 AFB on my car for several years and have finally decided to try a Rochester QuadraJet.  As is often the case, I was using the AFB because the price was right and will trying this particular Q-Jet for the same reason.  There are a number of technical advantages that the Q-Jet has over the AFB but an important one is the small primary venturis from the spread bore design.  The practical advantage is that Q-jets were installed on thousands of cars in the past decades and should still be relatively plentiful and cheap to acquire.

Upgrading to a 4bbl carb does make a large increase in performance.  Originally, the car did a 19.0 second 1/4 mile with the Carter BBS 1bbl carb, automatic transmission, and 2.93 rear gears.  Upgrading to headers, a Direct Connection high lift, short duration cam (PN 4120243), 318 valves, 340 valve springs, and some mild porting, the 1/4 mile time improved to 18.5 seconds.  Installing the AFB (jetted for a Chev 350) resulted in a best time of 17.078 seconds @  81.96 mph.

As I had already upgraded from the OEM Carter BBS one barrel carb to the AFB using an Offenhauser 4bbl intake manifold, the manifold is still suitable for the Q-Jet.  However, with the intake being drilled for a square-bore carb, an adapter will be required to make the new carb fit.  Luckily, Edelbrock makes one which allows the new carb to be a bolt-on upgrade.

At the time I installed the AFB, I was concerned about having a symmetrical fuel distribution between the front 3 cylinders and the rear 3 cylinders so I made a carburetor mounting plate for the intake manifold which turns the carb 90°.  This allows the carb's throttles shafts to be parallel to the engine rather than perpendicular as was supplied by Offenhauser.  I think Offenhauser supplied it that way to simplify the fabrication of the throttle and transmission linkages.  I had to fabricate my own throttle linkage for the new arrangement.

The following photos show the change from the AFB to the Q-Jet.  This page should take about 190 seconds to load with a 28.8 modem.

Old Carter 9625 AFB that someone once gave me several years ago for free.  Notice there is no choke assembly, which makes it tricky to start even during the summer.  At least I didn't have to worry about my wife sneaking off with it.
Spreadbore to squarebore adapter.  This adapter is made to mount spreadbore side down.  Notice the bump on the gasket on the bottom right-hand corner.  It corresponds with a bump on the adapter's bottom left-hand corner.  I'm sure it was one of GM's better ideas but the carb does seem to seal well in spite of it.
Spreadbore adapter mounted on the Offy intake.  This adds 3/4" to the height of the carburetor but keeps a separate pathway to the intake manifold for each carburetor barrel.  There are open plenum adapters available too but I wanted to keep the plenum volume as small as possible to minimize any chance of off-idle bog.

I had intended to install a 1/2" insulator between the adapter and the carb but found that I just don't have the head room for it with my Corvette air cleaner.  The Offy-supplied mounting plate is 7/16" thick so you would gain an extra 1/16" clearance over the plate I am using.

I like the QuadraJet carb because of the small, double booster primaries and because they are so plentiful in the junkyards.  I happened to have this one surplus from a 1977 Pontiac I converted to propane a few years ago.

The other thing I like about this carb is the small central fuel bowl.  I found that the AFB was sensitive to fuel level in the bowl and had a loss of power on hard left turns.  Of course, after I raised the fuel level, this problem seemed to disappear.  The as-installed QuadraJet has no sensitivity to turns at all in this orientation.

I was at a speed shop back in the 80's when some kid replaced the stock air cleaner on his Corvette with one of those shiny chrome ones.  I gave him $10 (Canadian!) for it and have been waiting for an opportunity to use it ever since.

With everything assembled, I have about 1/4" of clearance between the hood and the top of the air cleaner lid.  I knew the kids' play dough would be useful for something other than a cat's birthday cake.

I took the car out for a spin and it runs at least as well as the AFB and this is with the carb set up for a Chev 350.  Since the carb has been sitting in my garage since 1997, a good rebuild probably couldn't hurt.  I know the sound the carb makes when the secondary air valves open up on the 350 but I didn't hear it anything like it on the short drive I made to test it.  I got out onto the QEW and took it up to about 90 mph but ran out of highway as I only went from one interchange to another.

Notice the two marks on the hood as the air cleaner was rubbing on it.  If you look at the previous photo, you can just see where the paint was worn on the air cleaner lid.  Looks like I'll have install either a torque strap or a low profile air cleaner.

I extended the air cleaner hold-down stud up to the hood and marked the contact point.  From that point, I measured a radius of 6¼" to the hood bracing which means a maximum allowable diameter of 12½".  The height of the the Corvette air cleaner is 3-3/8".  For aftermarket, I think you would be safe using a Mr Gasket 9" diameter assembly which is only 2¾" high but I haven't verified if this would work.  There are smaller 6" diameter by 2" high ones too but think these are more restrictive. 

I took a walk through one of the local junkyards and found an extremely short air cleaner in a 1984 Firebird.  The lid diameter is over 14" so it hits the bracing.

The Firebird air filter diameter is less than 12" and the height is 2½".  After an afternoon with a saber saw and some black paint, I got the following result.  There is plenty of hood clearance with the Firebird air cleaner so I will try adding some heat dissipators later.

I got the electric choke conversion working but found that there isn't a good ground from the thermostat housing.  A short length of wire fixed that problem pretty fast.

Notice the blue hoses going to the bottom of the intake manifold.  I got my prototype intake manifold heater installed at this time too.

A close-up of the intake manifold heater.  This device has completely eliminated the off-idle bog.  The QuadraJet seems to pull a lot harder than the AFB but this is my seat-the-pants feeling.  I'll have to go to the drag strip to know for sure.

With the open air cleaner, I can hear the air valves opening up now.  With a flow capacity of 750 CFM, the sound is not quite a loud as I was used to with the Chevy.  They do seem to open up quite frequently while I'm cruising on the highway.

I also discovered that the dimensions of the heat riser base on the Offy is bigger than that of the stock manifold.  I machined a depression in the plate help ensure a good seal under pressure.  I based the depression size on a stock 1bbl manifold and allowed for extra clearance in my design.  It still wasn't enough so I had to massage it a bit with my die grinder.  Back to the drawing board for some extra clearance!

The following is a list of parts to install the Rochester QuadraJet on your six cylinder car.

MANUFACTURER PART NUMBER DESCRIPTION
Offenhauser Intake Manifold
General Motors from 4bbl -V8 cars QuadraJet Carburetor, air cleaner, throttle linkage
General Motors from 4bbl -V8 cars 1984 (third generation) Firebirds and Camaros (verify dimensions first!)
Edelbrock 2696 Squarebore to Spreadbore adapter
Edelbrock 1932 Hot air to electric choke conversion kit (may need to add ground)
Edelbrock 1991 (74 & earlier)

1992 (75 & later)

Race calibration kit (metering rods, jets, etc)
Mr Gasket 1487 Chrome 9" diameter air cleaner,  2¾" high.  (Clearance not verified!)
Mr Gasket 97 or 86 (1/4")

98 or 86B (1/2")

Heat dissipator (if you have the hood clearance and you want to keep your carb cooler)
Mr Gasket 3704 Vacuum Cap Assortment
Any (for fuel line) 3/8" to 5/16" brake line bushing
Any (for fuel line) 12" to 18" of 5/16" ready-made brake line
Any (for fuel line) 2" of 5/16" rubber fuel line & 2 gear clamps
Any (for vacuum) 1/4" NPT pipe plug (to plug vacuum line to GM transmission)
Any fasteners assorted 5/16" nuts, bolts, washers, studs
 

If anyone want to do a similar project, I've put a kit containing the major components of this upgrade on the Mopar products page.

Since I have already had a transmission throttle linkage in place which was working for the AFB, I didn't need to fabricate a new one.  I researched the installation of a Lokar throttle linkage and they have the parts to make this carburetor work with the Quadrajet.  Check with first before buying any parts, just to be sure!

The following is a list of Lokar parts to install the Rochester QuadraJet on your six cylinder car.

PART NUMBER DESCRIPTION
SRK-4000 Universal throtle cable bracket & springs
TC-1000U Universal black throttle cable
KD-2904HT Chrysler A904 automatic transmission kickdown cable
Gas Pedals Pick one to suit your style

If you want to go instead with the stock GM throttle cable, brackets, and gas pedal, you can easily fabricate a bracket to mount the kickdown cable by itself.

 

 

 

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