COPYRIGHTED 2006 all rights reserved
PART TWO LOVETT 1861 HALF DOLLAR
FOUR COINS, GIVEN TO TAYLOR,
ONE WITH R, ONE WITH A, AND
TWO WITH T, ONE HE KEPT WITH THE T
THE ONE WITH T AND M, HE SENT TO MEMMENGER,
it has a hidden L in corn stalks, and # 2.
SEC. OF TREASURY, THE PERSON WHO ORDERED THE
MINT TO MAKE DIES AND COIN.
In Taylors answer to war dept,if it is a true doc.,
he states he will send a specimen.
the word specimem implies an object ,
He states in his letter, copies
will be sent as soon as they are made for
the achives as requested , see CLICK taylors letter below.
It could be one of these copies, or an Orginal
since it is 28 MM.
which would make it even more valued.
not files as some have stated.
In the paragraph before he talks about the coin .
The four die trails were trials,
alloy and a base print, on a hand press
some say prove the copies was made,
the same letter that is one of the proofs
of the coin existance, states he is going to send a speciman
to the war dept.
THESE LETTERS CANNOT BE FOUND, NOT WHERE THEY SHOULD BE.
LETTERS FROM WASH. D. C. CONFEDERATE ARCHIVES
LETTERS FROM WRIGHT TO TAYLOR AND TAYLOR TO WRIGHT CANNOT BE LOCATED
LEADING DOUBTS IF THEY EVER EXISTED
reproduction and coping forbidden
THE DATE IS A 1 OVER A 0,THIS IS PRESENT IN ANS COIN, PRESENT
ANS COIN-reproduction forbidden without ans permission
MY COIN 1 OVER 0, SEE BELOW
MY COIN HAS A 1 OVER A 0, BUT MINE ALSO LOOKS
1860 was made into a 1861
Also of interest, the coin with the t, has below the word liberty,
mine has 5 lines or stripes, the ans coin 6.
The space above the word liberty,blank in ans , mine has a medical insrument
look in shield above lines, on obverse liberty side, you will see
a medical instrument.
Because the ans and restricks use a fe3deral obverse,
mine and Gerad's use the orginal confederate obverse 28 mm, not 30.
Of interest, the second restrikes
show an error between the e and r in america.
Mine and geralds do not have none of these features,
and must be pre restrike and orginals.
PICTURE SCOTT RESTRIKE REPRODUCTION OR COPYING FORBIDDEN
UNIV. OF N. C. RESPONSE TO ME ON TAYLOR WRIGHT LETTERS
CLICK INFO UNIV.NORTH CAROLINA
Why has no one addressed the issue
of taylors letters, location if found,
the source used to prove the existance of these coins
since the dies have since been were stolen or lost,
after seizure by federal govt. this is the primary
source of these coins. as to number and descripition.
They must be found, many documents have been lost or
stolen, they are needed to see if they have been changed
to suit ones sales.
but the very source and those who requested them also cannot be found.
THIS IS MY OPINION, BUT MUST BE STATED,
LEAVING THE VIEWER TO MAKE UP HIS MIND.
Mason was from Philadelphia correct? as was Lovett?
If I was a coin collector and a local coin engraver died
and there was an estate sale, I would most likely be present .
Possible that Mason obtained materials to create the dies from
from Lovetts estate, even before he spoke with Taylor?
my opinion using materials used to make the dies in 1861,
to make Restrikes in 1879..
The rediscovery of half dollar coin came after the creator Lovett
passed on. Questionable acquisition of the coin and subsequent
change of ownership from Taylor to Mason.
In my opinion, Mason acquired Lovett's die making tools
and notes prior to Lovetts death.
I do not believe that Taylor release his coin to Mason.
using acquired Lovett's lettering stamps to create Masons coin.
This is supported by the added loops, and 2 extra blooms, and the changed
size,from 28 to 30 mm. This would also be supported by the
US Liberty image being used as a viable replacement for the specialized
Liberty used on Taylor's coin.
In my opinion, proof, Mason created the coins the coins are the missing
L and M engravings that could only be reproduce by Lovett.
I think, Maybe the reason the ANS rejected his, sale offer.
I will continue to look but the Records Keeper
of the McConnelsville Cemetary states the dates
on the new tombstone read Birth 1817 Death 1879.
There are no months or date used.
THIS IS THE YEAR THAT 1861 HALF DOLLAR EMERGED FROM MASON
ALLEGED FROM TAYLOR.
SEE MASON INFO PAGE CLICK BELOW
MASON CLICK
Confederate half dollar was unknown for many years,
Not until 1879 was it revealed by Dr.Taylor to the world ,
by his owning a specimen.
***"ACCORDING TO MASONS ACCOUNT.FROM NEWSPAPER ARTICLE"***
"Then in 1879 came another surprise.
After an article appeared in the Philadelphia Public Record,
January 2, 1879,
B.F. Taylor, M.D., of New Orleans, contacted E.L. Mason, Jr.,
a Philadelphia coin dealer,
to say Taylor had an original 1861 Confederate States
of America half dollar.
He stated that four examples had been coined,
that he had one,
one of the officers of the Confederate government
was given another, another went to Professor Biddle
of the University of Louisiana,
and one to Dr. Ames of New Orleans".
FROM JEFFERSON DAVIS ARTICLE
"Sir,I had a Confederate coin,
it was in my wife's trunk when it was
rifled by the Federal Officers
She on board the prison ship on which
she was detained at Hampton Roads
before and after my confinement
in Fortress Monroe.
The coin, some medals & other valuables
were stolen at that time, whether the coin
be the same which has been offered
to you as a duplicate I cannot say,
it is however not true as published
that it is now in my possession.
Regretting that I cannot give you
more exact information
on particular subject of your enquiry
I am Respectfully, Jefferson Davis"
JEFFERSON DAVIS INFO PAGE
MEMMENGER INFO
"He ordered that new designs for half-dollars,
should be submitted.
Among several sent,and only one was approved .
When Louisiana seceded , it immediately aligned
with five other states .
Five states ratified the Provisional Constitution
Confederate States of America.
March 11, 1861 the final Constitution
Confederate States America was ratified by seven states,
original six , then Texas .
National Archives reveal that the mint
superintendent Elmore, was not never under the control
of Louisiana officials,
but rather the direction of ***C. G. Memminger; ***
Secretary of the Treasury for the
Confederate States of America.
The mint was under Confederate control,
all the time, from the very beginning.
The obverse of the coin
a representation of the Goddess of
seated Liberty, surrounded by thirteen stars,
denoting the States
from whence the Confederacy sprung,
DATE OF LETTER DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS,
PROBLEM THE 13 STATES WERE NOT FORMED AT TIME OF LETTER.
cont: on the lower rim beneath the figures,date 1861.
On the reverse there is a shield with seven stars,
representing the seceding States;
above the shield a liberty-cap,
and entwined around it stalks of
sugar cane and cotton, "Confederate State of America."
d passage through the collar was assured. Problems with
planchets sticking to the die
would be confined to the high relief
and reverse die.
Four coins were struck.
Taylor kept one and passed one, on to a government
offical by his letter.
We assume it went to Memminger, SINCE HE ORDERED IT MADE,
The other two pieces were given to Riddle(Biddle), and Ames.
SOME SAY MY COINS ARE CAST, BUT CAN ONE GET
A DOUBLE ON MINE
IS NOT POSSIBLE ON A CAST.
MY DOUBLE CONFEDERATE SIDE DOUBLE STRIKE
INFO ON DOUBLE STRIKES, HOW AND WHY
CLICK ON PAGE BELOW
I BELIEVE MINE IS # 6 OF THE EIGHT.
We know that Riddle was a former employee of the mint years.
Dr. Taylor and Dr. Ames were both M.D.'s .
THESE COINS WERE DISTRIBUTED BY TAYLOR TO THOSE MENTIONED ABOVE.
Nowhere does it state davis name,
he don't even mention
half dollar.in his answer to ans.
since mennenger ordered the coin, its logical,
copy or die trail would go to him,
i have taylor or memmenger
or mennenger,
ASK YOURSELF THESE QUESTIONS.
IS ORGINAL 4 COINS MENTIONED BY TAYLOR
SIZED THE SAME AS RESTRICKS, ANSWER NO.
ORGINAL CSA OBVERSE 28 MM.
sams as confederate side 28 mm.
THE ORGINAL 500 RESTRICKS ARE DONE BY HAND PRESS,
ON WHITE METAL,
SECOND 500 FUSED TO FEDERAL OBVERSE BY PRESS.
THE ORGINAL FROM N.O., WOULD NOT FIT
PROPERLY IN A COINING PRESS,
Some say due to high relief,
I say size 28 mm,
federal haves 30 mm.
SO THEY USED THE CORKSCREW HAND PRESS.
IF THEY WOULD NOT FIT ON A COINING PRESS
THEIR SIZE WAS DIFFERENT, 28 mm.
WEIGHT
THE OFFICAL WEIGHT192 GRAINS OF SILVER
10 % COPPER FOR A COINED DOLLAR
a half dollar would be half,
BUT DIE TRAILS WERE DONE IN WHITE METAL
NOT SILVER, THE FOUR STRUCK AT
NEW ORLEANS MINT WERE DIE TRAILS
only mason says silver trying to sell
his so called orginal from Taylor.
BULLION UNAVAILABLE, COINING STOPPED
AFTER FOUR, WHY FOUR , WHY NOT TEN
THE ANSWER THEY WERE TRAILS.
SOME SAY THEY WERE PROOFS,
BUT A PROOF CANNOT BE CREATED ON A HAND PRESS
WITH A DIE THAT METAL STicks to THE DIE.
28mm in a 30 mm slot.
MORE THAN LIKLY THE COIN HAS REEDING
MISSING ON THE EDGES, RAISED EDGES,
OF A WHITE METAL COMPOSITION,
WITH POSSLE MISSING OR FLAKING IN SPOTS.
DIES FROM LOVETT, USING LOVETTS METAL,
NICKEL, COPPER ALLOY. More copper in pennies
like indian head, more nickel in halfs.
SCOTT'S ORGINAL WHITE TOKEN RESTRIKE TO TEST DIES
PICTURE OF SCOTT'S TOKEN, WHITE METAL
ALL COPIES FORBIDDEN WITHOUT PERMISSION OF ANS
Normal milled edges are applied
during striking, the coin
when hit by the force of the press
stretches outwards from the centre
and into the collar around the planchet.
If this operation goes wrong
the milled edge will be malformed.
Such pieces are called broad-strikes
and often have an amount of the milling missing.
SIZE
THE DESIGN OF THE ORGINAL FOUR WAS
like unto A SEATED LIBERTY 1861
28 mm, not 30 mm, as the so called orginals are. WITH THE NEW CONFEDERATE SIDE, and new obverse.
does anyone think the CSA would use a federal 30 mm
obverse,an insult to their cause
they made their own, similar but different
as in my descripition of my coin, 28 mm, not 30 mm.
THE RESTRIKES WERE SHAVEN
FEDERAL COINS OF SILVER, JOINED BY
CONFEDERATE SIDE, DONE ON A COINING PRESS.
orginal obverse nerver found, lost 28 mm die, not 30mm.
confescated by federal govt., then lost or stolen.
ON CONFEDERATE ORGINAL FOUR,
IT STATES IN TAYLORS LETTER ,
DESIGN OF COIN WAS A SEATED LIBERTY,
NOT THE ACTUAL FEDERAL COIN.
NOT HAVING OBVERSE DIE, USED SIMILAR
FEDERAL OBVERSE IN FUSION, DIFFERENT SIZES
28 CONFEDERATE, 30 OBVERSE.
flipped coin reverses to show its a different coin.
SO TO STATE COIN IS SAME WIDTH AS FEDERAL
HALF DOLLAR IS WRONG, THE DESIGN WAS a
changed federal FEDERAL,WITH A CONFEDERATE REVERSE.
a total new half dollar.
THE OBVERSE A SEATED LIBERTY, NOT A SHAVED
FEDERAL COIN AS IN THE RESTRICKS.
BUT ITS OWN DIE, 28 MM AS IN MY COIN.
descripition above. With 1 over 0 in date.
A HIDDEN L, OR A REPLACEMENT OF A LETTERR, OR A.
FOR THE L, TO AMES AND RIDDLE.
Cracked Confederate obverse,
containing a crack running from the coin's rim to
Liberty's nose and passing near the seventh star.
This can be attributed to the Confederacy's
control of the mint,
because this cracked die was used for the
four Confederate half dollars.
In 1861, Memminger ok'd a design for
the Confederate half dollar.
No government engravers worked in the New Orleans Mint,
the branch received dies produced by the Philadelphia Mint.
Although lacking engravers, the Confederate government,
eager to assert its self-sufficiency, WANTED ITS OWN COIN,ITS SIZE
DIFFERENT AND BOTH SIDES THEIR OWN DESIGN.
NOTE last paragraph of Taylors alleged letter,
"I will take pleasure in sending you
a specimen for the archives you represent.
Very respectfully, your obedient servant,
Please note: i can accept letters en route to wash. never making it there, and letters stolen in wash, but i cannot accept the people making
requests from Taylor, not being in the records as a request, forget about
the answer and request letter, they have no record of the requests,
ever being made.
Another flaw picked up by mr. corell's keen mind,
the 13 states in descripition, not even existing when coin was made.
He is a gentlemen, and gives the other side of story,
it may refer to 13 colonies, it does not say so.
Also how the coin was distributed "
In a true patterning of a new coin, several specimens
would likely have gone to key government officials in Montgomery.
The majority of coins would not likely have gone to private individuals,
as was the case here."
WHAT IS OF GREAT INTEREST TO ME,
IS THE TIME LINE.
ABOUT JAN 2 1879,A NEWSPAPER PRINTS AN ARTICLE ON TAYLORS COIN,
STATING ITS EXISTANCE FROM MASON,
INFO IS FROM MASON.
QUESTION, IF A MAN LIKE MASON WANTS
A COIN OR IS INTERESTED IN ACQUIRING A COIN,
WHY WOULD HE ADVERTISE IT
BEFORE ACQUIRING IT , AND RAISE THE PRICE.
UNLESS HE ALREADY HAS A COPY,
OR THINKS HE DOES.
REDFLAG
THEN UPON request FROM WAR DEPT.
IN A LETTER DATED MARCH 26 1879,
LETTERS WRIGHT TO TAYLOR, TAYLOR TO WRIGHT
WAR DEPT CANNOT LOCATE THIS REQUEST, NOT WHERE ITS SUPPOSED TO BE
WRIGHT INFO PAGE
TAYLOR RESPONDS APRIL 7 1879, HE IS GOING TO MAKE COPIES
OF THE SPECIMEN, DONT KNOW IF HE MEANS COIN , OR DIE AND COIN.
THEN SOON AFTER, LATER IN APRIL SELLS COIN AND DIE TO MASON ?.
IT DONT MAKE SENSE, WAS IT ONE OF THE ORGINAL COPIES MADE BY
TAYLOR FOR THE WAR DEPT, KEEPING ORGINAL FOR HIMSELF,
OR IF MORE THAN ONE EXISTED WITH TAYLOR, I WOULD SELL THE COPY.
1.WASH. CANNOT LOCATE RESPONSE IN 109 CONF. ARCHIVES.
2.THE 13 STATES OF THE CONF. NOT EVEN EXISTING AT TIME OF LETTER,
3 AND COINS GIVEN TO PEOPLE , WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE RECEIVED THEM.
3 RED FLAGS .
THEN MASON PRODUCES THE COIN AND DIE ,
ALLEGED FROM TAYLOR
THAT HE SAID HE PURCHASED, TO A.N. SOCIETY
AND TRIES TO SELL IT TO THEM.
NOT SELLING THEM, THEN SELLS THEM TO SCOTT.
WITHOUT BILL OF SALE OR
LETTER FROM TAYLOR,
SCOTT EXPANDS COIN TO 30 MM,
SINCE OBVERSE WAS SEIZED BY FEDERAL GOVT. 28MM
SIZE OF COIN 28 NOT 30MM ,NOT SO FOR ORGINALS. REDFLAG
DESCRIPITION OF COIN, HALF OF COIN FEDERAL,
THINK, A NEW CONFEDERATE GOVT. BREAKING TIES WITH THE OLD,
WOULD CREATE ITS OWN OBVERSE, 28 MM ,
WITH CHANGES I HAVE MENTIONED,
REVERSING UPON FLIPPING TO BE DIFFERENT
****ITS ABBSURB TO EVEN THINK C.S.A. WOULD USE A FEDERAL COIN DIE.***
1-JAN2 HERESAY FROM MASON ,TELLS OR TAYLORS COIN EXISTANCE.
NEWSPAPER ARTICLE HERESAY.
2-MARCH 1879 LETTER FROM WAR DEPT.
NOT FOUND IN ARCHIVES
3-APRIL 7 TAYLORS RESPONSE TO WAR DEPT.
ALSO NOT FOUND.
4-MAY 20, MASON PRODUCES COIN,
FOR SALE WITH DIE,
LETTER FROM TAYLOR NEEDED HERESAY
RED FLAG
5. SELLS TO SCOTT, ALLEGED TO BE TAYLORS COIN.
TO KEEP CHAIN OF EDIVENCE ALIVE,
A-NEEDED LETTER FROM TAYLOR TO MASON JAN 1879.
B-LOCATION OF LETTER FROM WAR DEPT
TO TAYLOR. NOT IN ARCHIVES.
C-LETTER FROM TAYLOR TO WAR DEPT,
NOT IN ARCHIUVES.
D-LETTER OR BILL OF SALE
FROM TAYLOR TO MASON.
WITHOUT THESE ITS ALL
HERESAY AND QUESTIONABLE,
IN A COURT OF LAW,
ALL NOT ACCEPTED AS EDIVENCE.
BUT HERESAY.
THE TIME LINES IN THIS INFO PUTS IN QUESTION LETTERS
FROM TAYLOR ,and WRIGHT.
PAGE WITH INFO ON TAYLOR WRIGHT
MINT INFO ORDERS FOR MINT TAKEOVER CUT MARCH 9 1861,
TAYLOR STATES LATE FEB.1861.
3 RED FLAGS
They are found on grading sites without the last paragraph,
0n 20-20, on other coin sites,
TASMANIAN NUMISMATIC SOCIETY, PCGS,
but none with a date other than date in letter,
which is worthless.
a click to southern coins as an example of what i say,
complements of mr corell to me.
A copy like, except number of buds and flowers,my coin,
in lead can be seen as far back as april 17 1973,
thanks to research by by mr. corell.
who located this article for me.
Its been around , snuffed out by these
two letters, wright to taylor,
which may or may not be true, saying four coins made,
brushing aside paragraph of copies to be made,
I hope they can be found.
mine is not lead, but this coin has 19 buds
and flowers on corn stalk, mine has 17 , the orginal,
since the obverse is 28 mm
Mine is not lead, 17 leaves and flowers on mine, not 19,
28 mm on mibe not 30 mm
SO WHAT ARE WE LEFT WITH, A DIE OF OBVERSE,
WITH CRACK FROM NOSE TO RIM,
OF A SEATED LIBERTY 1861 DATE.
1 over 0 in date,
A REVERSE OF COINFEDERATE DIE WITH CRACK
THROUGH HALF DOL.
WEIGHT WOULD DEPEND ON MATERIAL AVAILABLE
A L FOR LOVETT HIDDEN,
AT THE STRICKING OF 4 TRAIL COINS,
LETTERS WRIGHT AND TAYLOR CANNOT BE LOCATED,
AS WELL AS THE COMPOSITION OF THE COIN.
LOVETT USED NICKLEL COPPER,
Nowhere is grams,or grains mentioned, nor loops under shield.
composition of coin is not mentioned, nor size, only
shortage of bullion suapended printing after four coins,
leaving one to believe the weight
and composition is in question,
Why not 5 or 10.
What was the real silver content.
I understand the norm is 192 grains for half dollar,
or 412 dollar silver, but the shortage of bullion
affected this, who knows if all four weighed the same.
DIE TRAILS, NOT KNOWING MINT WOULD CLOSE ,GIVEN AS GIFTS TO
DEDiCATED WORKERS, FOR THEIR TIME AND EFFORT.INTIALS PUT AS A TOKEN,
AS ONE DOES ON A GIFT.
since the obverse is 28 mm
as is also the confederate side, 28 mm.
atotaly new coin,
Editor of the American
Journal of Numismatics, upon learning
of this coin and die, suggested that:
having been struck in the New Orleans Mint
by government officers,
with government tools, and ,
should be restored to its true ownership,
and that it be placed in the Mint Cabinet
NOT FOLLOWED UP BY MASON.
The obverse die, we hear, was claimed by the government;
why not the reverse also?
THIS is because taylor only kept the confederate reverse side,
if this is true, who knows.
To use scott as a mirror of the 4 coins struck ? is wrong,
refurbishing of coin dies is key.
he may of added or removed from orginal dies,
Of the three in possession , the john ford foundation ,
alleged to be davis,
Eric P. Newman Education Foundation, alleged to have ames coin,
RIDDLE(BIDDLE) coin where abouts unknown.
not showing there coin, and the ANS, ANS coin is used in all
alleged to be taylors,
THEY MUST BE COMPARED ONE TO OTHERS.
No proofs could have been struck, if there was a problem
with metal sticking to dies.weight questionable, no bullion,
reverse design based on restrick, questionable,
ANS without cross reference due to its date,
to another specimen is questionable,
more so with date on ANS coin, not verified to others.
Unnoticed (and not replaced) by mint personnel,
the US obverse die
had a crack running from the edge
of the coin to Liberty?s nose.
Following the production of these four coins,
a regular US reverse die
was placed in the coin press and produced
coins that show the crack
IT increasing in size with each
coining, mine is small
and one of the first produced.
As a result, while numismatists
can not distinguish among double eagles
manufactured by the US,
the State or the Confederacy, the increased die crack are referred to
as "Confederate" halves, as well as the four
with confederate reverses.
ASK YOUR SELF WHY ARE THESE COINS HIDDEN, CAN THEY BE DIFFERENT,
WHICH IS THE REAL ONE, I SHOW YOU MINE, I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE.
CLIP SHOWING COIN LIKE MINE, BUT MINE IS NOT LEAD,
MINE HAS 17 BUDS AND FLOWERS THIS HAD 19 BUDS AND FLOWERS
Mr. Harold Levi,expertise on history of one cent and lovett
mr levys page click below
THE APPRAISERS ASS STATES ONLY
ONE QUALIFIED TO APPRAISE THESE COINS
WILL NOT DO FROM PHOTOS
Please contact our closest appropriate member(s)
directly for professional appraisal:
James H. Cohen, ASA
Accredited Senior Appraiser
437 Royal St
New Orleans, LA 70130-2103
Phone:
(504) 522-3305
Email:
[email protected]
Fax:
(504) 523-7603
Specialty:
Numismatics
new orleans museum
Dear Angelo,
Thank you so much for sending us the image of your coin.
Please let us know if you may be interested in exhibiting
the coin at the New Orleans Mint building once repairs to the
facility have been completed. It will likely reopen in
late 2007 or early 2008.
Best regards,
Greg Lambousy
Director of Collections
Louisiana State Museum
1000 Chartres Street
New Orleans, LA 70116
[email protected]
(504) 599-1946
The only condition with the sale, is a commitment I made to
[email protected] museum in new orleans site of orginal mint
to display coin on their opening,in about a year from now,
you will be bound by this commitment.
I AM OPEN TO ALL BIDS ON THIS COIN,
THE FINAL DETERMINATION WILL BE MINE.
COIN WILL NOT BE SENT,WE CAN ARRANGE INSPECTION
UPON VERIFICATION OF PERSON MAKING REQUEST.
ALL DEALING FOR MY COIN MUST GO THROUGH ME AT,
LINK BACK to ME
e mail [email protected]
E-MAIL
CLICK
OTHER LINKS
YAHOO
GOOGLE
redirect google
FOUR COINS, GIVEN TO TAYLOR,
ONE WITH R, ONE WITH A, AND
TWO WITH T, ONE HE KEPT WITH THE T
THE ONE WITH T AND M, HE SENT TO MEMMENGER,
it has a hidden L in corn stalks, and # 2.
SEC. OF TREASURY, THE PERSON WHO ORDERED THE
MINT TO MAKE DIES AND COIN.
In Taylors answer to war dept,if it is a true doc.,
he states he will send a specimen.
the word specimem implies an object ,
He states in his letter, copies
will be sent as soon as they are made for
the achives as requested , see CLICK taylors letter below.
It could be one of these copies, or an Orginal
since it is 28 MM.
which would make it even more valued.
not files as some have stated.
In the paragraph before he talks about the coin .
The four die trails were trials,
alloy and a base print, on a hand press
some say prove the copies was made,
the same letter that is one of the proofs
of the coin existance, states he is going to send a speciman
to the war dept.
THESE LETTERS CANNOT BE FOUND, NOT WHERE THEY SHOULD BE.
LETTERS FROM WASH. D. C. CONFEDERATE ARCHIVES
LETTERS FROM WRIGHT TO TAYLOR AND TAYLOR TO WRIGHT CANNOT BE LOCATED
LEADING DOUBTS IF THEY EVER EXISTED
reproduction and coping forbidden
THE DATE IS A 1 OVER A 0,THIS IS PRESENT IN ANS COIN, PRESENT MY COIN 1 OVER 0, SEE BELOW MY COIN HAS A 1 OVER A 0, BUT MINE ALSO LOOKS Also of interest, the coin with the t, has below the word liberty, Of interest, the second restrikes UNIV. OF N. C. RESPONSE TO ME ON TAYLOR WRIGHT LETTERS CLICK INFO UNIV.NORTH CAROLINA Why has no one addressed the issue THIS IS MY OPINION, BUT MUST BE STATED, SEE MASON INFO PAGE CLICK BELOW Confederate half dollar was unknown for many years, "Then in 1879 came another surprise. one of the officers of the Confederate government FROM JEFFERSON DAVIS ARTICLE JEFFERSON DAVIS INFO PAGE MEMMENGER INFO The obverse of the coin Four coins were struck. SOME SAY MY COINS ARE CAST, BUT CAN ONE GET INFO ON DOUBLE STRIKES, HOW AND WHY We know that Riddle was a former employee of the mint years. Nowhere does it state davis name, ASK YOURSELF THESE QUESTIONS. THE ORGINAL 500 RESTRICKS ARE DONE BY HAND PRESS, WEIGHT SCOTT'S ORGINAL WHITE TOKEN RESTRIKE TO TEST DIES PICTURE OF SCOTT'S TOKEN, WHITE METAL Normal milled edges are applied SIZE THE DESIGN OF THE ORGINAL FOUR WAS THE RESTRIKES WERE SHAVEN ON CONFEDERATE ORGINAL FOUR, SO TO STATE COIN IS SAME WIDTH AS FEDERAL Cracked Confederate obverse, NOTE last paragraph of Taylors alleged letter, Please note: i can accept letters en route to wash. never making it there, and letters stolen in wash, but i cannot accept the people making WHAT IS OF GREAT INTEREST TO ME, REDFLAG LETTERS WRIGHT TO TAYLOR, TAYLOR TO WRIGHT WAR DEPT CANNOT LOCATE THIS REQUEST, NOT WHERE ITS SUPPOSED TO BE WRIGHT INFO PAGE TAYLOR RESPONDS APRIL 7 1879, HE IS GOING TO MAKE COPIES 3 RED FLAGS . THEN MASON PRODUCES THE COIN AND DIE , SCOTT EXPANDS COIN TO 30 MM, 1-JAN2 HERESAY FROM MASON ,TELLS OR TAYLORS COIN EXISTANCE. RED FLAG
THE TIME LINES IN THIS INFO PUTS IN QUESTION LETTERS PAGE WITH INFO ON TAYLOR WRIGHT 3 RED FLAGS They are found on grading sites without the last paragraph, A copy like, except number of buds and flowers,my coin, Its been around , snuffed out by these Mine is not lead, 17 leaves and flowers on mine, not 19,
28 mm on mibe not 30 mm SO WHAT ARE WE LEFT WITH, A DIE OF OBVERSE, Nowhere is grams,or grains mentioned, nor loops under shield. Why not 5 or 10. Editor of the American The obverse die, we hear, was claimed by the government; To use scott as a mirror of the 4 coins struck ? is wrong, Of the three in possession , the john ford foundation , THEY MUST BE COMPARED ONE TO OTHERS. No proofs could have been struck, if there was a problem Unnoticed (and not replaced) by mint personnel, CLIP SHOWING COIN LIKE MINE, BUT MINE IS NOT LEAD, THE APPRAISERS ASS STATES ONLY new orleans museum The only condition with the sale, is a commitment I made to I AM OPEN TO ALL BIDS ON THIS COIN, LINK BACK to ME
OTHER LINKS
ANS COIN-reproduction forbidden without ans permission
1860 was made into a 1861
mine has 5 lines or stripes, the ans coin 6.
The space above the word liberty,blank in ans , mine has a medical insrument
look in shield above lines, on obverse liberty side, you will see
a medical instrument.
Because the ans and restricks use a fe3deral obverse,
mine and Gerad's use the orginal confederate obverse 28 mm, not 30.
show an error between the e and r in america.
Mine and geralds do not have none of these features,
and must be pre restrike and orginals.
PICTURE SCOTT RESTRIKE REPRODUCTION OR COPYING FORBIDDEN
of taylors letters, location if found,
the source used to prove the existance of these coins
since the dies have since been were stolen or lost,
after seizure by federal govt. this is the primary
source of these coins. as to number and descripition.
They must be found, many documents have been lost or
stolen, they are needed to see if they have been changed
to suit ones sales.
but the very source and those who requested them also cannot be found.
LEAVING THE VIEWER TO MAKE UP HIS MIND.
Mason was from Philadelphia correct? as was Lovett?
If I was a coin collector and a local coin engraver died
and there was an estate sale, I would most likely be present .
Possible that Mason obtained materials to create the dies from
from Lovetts estate, even before he spoke with Taylor?
my opinion using materials used to make the dies in 1861,
to make Restrikes in 1879..
The rediscovery of half dollar coin came after the creator Lovett
passed on. Questionable acquisition of the coin and subsequent
change of ownership from Taylor to Mason.
In my opinion, Mason acquired Lovett's die making tools
and notes prior to Lovetts death.
I do not believe that Taylor release his coin to Mason.
using acquired Lovett's lettering stamps to create Masons coin.
This is supported by the added loops, and 2 extra blooms, and the changed
size,from 28 to 30 mm. This would also be supported by the
US Liberty image being used as a viable replacement for the specialized
Liberty used on Taylor's coin.
In my opinion, proof, Mason created the coins the coins are the missing
L and M engravings that could only be reproduce by Lovett.
I think, Maybe the reason the ANS rejected his, sale offer.
I will continue to look but the Records Keeper
of the McConnelsville Cemetary states the dates
on the new tombstone read Birth 1817 Death 1879.
There are no months or date used.
THIS IS THE YEAR THAT 1861 HALF DOLLAR EMERGED FROM MASON
ALLEGED FROM TAYLOR.
MASON CLICK
Not until 1879 was it revealed by Dr.Taylor to the world ,
by his owning a specimen.
***"ACCORDING TO MASONS ACCOUNT.FROM NEWSPAPER ARTICLE"***
After an article appeared in the Philadelphia Public Record,
January 2, 1879,
B.F. Taylor, M.D., of New Orleans, contacted E.L. Mason, Jr.,
a Philadelphia coin dealer,
to say Taylor had an original 1861 Confederate States
of America half dollar.
He stated that four examples had been coined,
that he had one,
was given another, another went to Professor Biddle
of the University of Louisiana,
and one to Dr. Ames of New Orleans".
"Sir,I had a Confederate coin,
it was in my wife's trunk when it was
rifled by the Federal Officers
She on board the prison ship on which
she was detained at Hampton Roads
before and after my confinement
in Fortress Monroe.
The coin, some medals & other valuables
were stolen at that time, whether the coin
be the same which has been offered
to you as a duplicate I cannot say,
it is however not true as published
that it is now in my possession.
Regretting that I cannot give you
more exact information
on particular subject of your enquiry
I am Respectfully, Jefferson Davis"
"He ordered that new designs for half-dollars,
should be submitted.
Among several sent,and only one was approved .
When Louisiana seceded , it immediately aligned
with five other states .
Five states ratified the Provisional Constitution
Confederate States of America.
March 11, 1861 the final Constitution
Confederate States America was ratified by seven states,
original six , then Texas .
National Archives reveal that the mint
superintendent Elmore, was not never under the control
of Louisiana officials,
but rather the direction of ***C. G. Memminger; ***
Secretary of the Treasury for the
Confederate States of America.
The mint was under Confederate control,
all the time, from the very beginning.
a representation of the Goddess of
seated Liberty, surrounded by thirteen stars,
denoting the States
from whence the Confederacy sprung,
DATE OF LETTER DOES NOT SUPPORT THIS,
PROBLEM THE 13 STATES WERE NOT FORMED AT TIME OF LETTER.
cont: on the lower rim beneath the figures,date 1861.
On the reverse there is a shield with seven stars,
representing the seceding States;
above the shield a liberty-cap,
and entwined around it stalks of
sugar cane and cotton, "Confederate State of America."
d passage through the collar was assured. Problems with
planchets sticking to the die
would be confined to the high relief
and reverse die.
Taylor kept one and passed one, on to a government
offical by his letter.
We assume it went to Memminger, SINCE HE ORDERED IT MADE,
The other two pieces were given to Riddle(Biddle), and Ames.
A DOUBLE ON MINE
IS NOT POSSIBLE ON A CAST.
MY DOUBLE CONFEDERATE SIDE DOUBLE STRIKE
CLICK ON PAGE BELOW
I BELIEVE MINE IS # 6 OF THE EIGHT.
Dr. Taylor and Dr. Ames were both M.D.'s .
THESE COINS WERE DISTRIBUTED BY TAYLOR TO THOSE MENTIONED ABOVE.
he don't even mention
half dollar.in his answer to ans.
since mennenger ordered the coin, its logical,
copy or die trail would go to him,
i have taylor or memmenger
or mennenger,
IS ORGINAL 4 COINS MENTIONED BY TAYLOR
SIZED THE SAME AS RESTRICKS, ANSWER NO.
ORGINAL CSA OBVERSE 28 MM.
sams as confederate side 28 mm.
ON WHITE METAL,
SECOND 500 FUSED TO FEDERAL OBVERSE BY PRESS.
THE ORGINAL FROM N.O., WOULD NOT FIT
PROPERLY IN A COINING PRESS,
Some say due to high relief,
I say size 28 mm,
federal haves 30 mm.
SO THEY USED THE CORKSCREW HAND PRESS.
IF THEY WOULD NOT FIT ON A COINING PRESS
THEIR SIZE WAS DIFFERENT, 28 mm.
THE OFFICAL WEIGHT192 GRAINS OF SILVER
10 % COPPER FOR A COINED DOLLAR
a half dollar would be half,
BUT DIE TRAILS WERE DONE IN WHITE METAL
NOT SILVER, THE FOUR STRUCK AT
NEW ORLEANS MINT WERE DIE TRAILS
only mason says silver trying to sell
his so called orginal from Taylor.
BULLION UNAVAILABLE, COINING STOPPED
AFTER FOUR, WHY FOUR , WHY NOT TEN
THE ANSWER THEY WERE TRAILS.
SOME SAY THEY WERE PROOFS,
BUT A PROOF CANNOT BE CREATED ON A HAND PRESS
WITH A DIE THAT METAL STicks to THE DIE.
28mm in a 30 mm slot.
MORE THAN LIKLY THE COIN HAS REEDING
MISSING ON THE EDGES, RAISED EDGES,
OF A WHITE METAL COMPOSITION,
WITH POSSLE MISSING OR FLAKING IN SPOTS.
DIES FROM LOVETT, USING LOVETTS METAL,
NICKEL, COPPER ALLOY. More copper in pennies
like indian head, more nickel in halfs.
ALL COPIES FORBIDDEN WITHOUT PERMISSION OF ANS
during striking, the coin
when hit by the force of the press
stretches outwards from the centre
and into the collar around the planchet.
If this operation goes wrong
the milled edge will be malformed.
Such pieces are called broad-strikes
and often have an amount of the milling missing.
like unto A SEATED LIBERTY 1861
28 mm, not 30 mm, as the so called orginals are. WITH THE NEW CONFEDERATE SIDE, and new obverse.
does anyone think the CSA would use a federal 30 mm
obverse,an insult to their cause
they made their own, similar but different
as in my descripition of my coin, 28 mm, not 30 mm.
FEDERAL COINS OF SILVER, JOINED BY
CONFEDERATE SIDE, DONE ON A COINING PRESS.
orginal obverse nerver found, lost 28 mm die, not 30mm.
confescated by federal govt., then lost or stolen.
IT STATES IN TAYLORS LETTER ,
DESIGN OF COIN WAS A SEATED LIBERTY,
NOT THE ACTUAL FEDERAL COIN.
NOT HAVING OBVERSE DIE, USED SIMILAR
FEDERAL OBVERSE IN FUSION, DIFFERENT SIZES
28 CONFEDERATE, 30 OBVERSE.
flipped coin reverses to show its a different coin.
HALF DOLLAR IS WRONG, THE DESIGN WAS a
changed federal FEDERAL,WITH A CONFEDERATE REVERSE.
a total new half dollar.
THE OBVERSE A SEATED LIBERTY, NOT A SHAVED
FEDERAL COIN AS IN THE RESTRICKS.
BUT ITS OWN DIE, 28 MM AS IN MY COIN.
descripition above. With 1 over 0 in date.
A HIDDEN L, OR A REPLACEMENT OF A LETTERR, OR A.
FOR THE L, TO AMES AND RIDDLE.
containing a crack running from the coin's rim to
Liberty's nose and passing near the seventh star.
This can be attributed to the Confederacy's
control of the mint,
because this cracked die was used for the
four Confederate half dollars.
In 1861, Memminger ok'd a design for
the Confederate half dollar.
No government engravers worked in the New Orleans Mint,
the branch received dies produced by the Philadelphia Mint.
Although lacking engravers, the Confederate government,
eager to assert its self-sufficiency, WANTED ITS OWN COIN,ITS SIZE
DIFFERENT AND BOTH SIDES THEIR OWN DESIGN.
"I will take pleasure in sending you
a specimen for the archives you represent.
Very respectfully, your obedient servant,
requests from Taylor, not being in the records as a request, forget about
the answer and request letter, they have no record of the requests,
ever being made.
Another flaw picked up by mr. corell's keen mind,
the 13 states in descripition, not even existing when coin was made.
He is a gentlemen, and gives the other side of story,
it may refer to 13 colonies, it does not say so.
Also how the coin was distributed "
In a true patterning of a new coin, several specimens
would likely have gone to key government officials in Montgomery.
The majority of coins would not likely have gone to private individuals,
as was the case here."
IS THE TIME LINE.
ABOUT JAN 2 1879,A NEWSPAPER PRINTS AN ARTICLE ON TAYLORS COIN,
STATING ITS EXISTANCE FROM MASON,
INFO IS FROM MASON.
QUESTION, IF A MAN LIKE MASON WANTS
A COIN OR IS INTERESTED IN ACQUIRING A COIN,
WHY WOULD HE ADVERTISE IT
BEFORE ACQUIRING IT , AND RAISE THE PRICE.
UNLESS HE ALREADY HAS A COPY,
OR THINKS HE DOES.
THEN UPON request FROM WAR DEPT.
IN A LETTER DATED MARCH 26 1879,
OF THE SPECIMEN, DONT KNOW IF HE MEANS COIN , OR DIE AND COIN.
THEN SOON AFTER, LATER IN APRIL SELLS COIN AND DIE TO MASON ?.
IT DONT MAKE SENSE, WAS IT ONE OF THE ORGINAL COPIES MADE BY
TAYLOR FOR THE WAR DEPT, KEEPING ORGINAL FOR HIMSELF,
OR IF MORE THAN ONE EXISTED WITH TAYLOR, I WOULD SELL THE COPY.
1.WASH. CANNOT LOCATE RESPONSE IN 109 CONF. ARCHIVES.
2.THE 13 STATES OF THE CONF. NOT EVEN EXISTING AT TIME OF LETTER,
3 AND COINS GIVEN TO PEOPLE , WHO SHOULD NOT HAVE RECEIVED THEM.
ALLEGED FROM TAYLOR
THAT HE SAID HE PURCHASED, TO A.N. SOCIETY
AND TRIES TO SELL IT TO THEM.
NOT SELLING THEM, THEN SELLS THEM TO SCOTT.
WITHOUT BILL OF SALE OR
LETTER FROM TAYLOR,
SINCE OBVERSE WAS SEIZED BY FEDERAL GOVT. 28MM
SIZE OF COIN 28 NOT 30MM ,NOT SO FOR ORGINALS. REDFLAG
DESCRIPITION OF COIN, HALF OF COIN FEDERAL,
THINK, A NEW CONFEDERATE GOVT. BREAKING TIES WITH THE OLD,
WOULD CREATE ITS OWN OBVERSE, 28 MM ,
WITH CHANGES I HAVE MENTIONED,
REVERSING UPON FLIPPING TO BE DIFFERENT
****ITS ABBSURB TO EVEN THINK C.S.A. WOULD USE A FEDERAL COIN DIE.***
NEWSPAPER ARTICLE HERESAY.
2-MARCH 1879 LETTER FROM WAR DEPT.
NOT FOUND IN ARCHIVES
3-APRIL 7 TAYLORS RESPONSE TO WAR DEPT.
ALSO NOT FOUND.
4-MAY 20, MASON PRODUCES COIN,
FOR SALE WITH DIE,
LETTER FROM TAYLOR NEEDED HERESAY
5. SELLS TO SCOTT, ALLEGED TO BE TAYLORS COIN.
TO KEEP CHAIN OF EDIVENCE ALIVE,
A-NEEDED LETTER FROM TAYLOR TO MASON JAN 1879.
B-LOCATION OF LETTER FROM WAR DEPT
TO TAYLOR. NOT IN ARCHIVES.
C-LETTER FROM TAYLOR TO WAR DEPT,
NOT IN ARCHIUVES.
D-LETTER OR BILL OF SALE
FROM TAYLOR TO MASON.
WITHOUT THESE ITS ALL
HERESAY AND QUESTIONABLE,
IN A COURT OF LAW,
ALL NOT ACCEPTED AS EDIVENCE.
BUT HERESAY.
FROM TAYLOR ,and WRIGHT.
MINT INFO ORDERS FOR MINT TAKEOVER CUT MARCH 9 1861,
TAYLOR STATES LATE FEB.1861.
0n 20-20, on other coin sites,
TASMANIAN NUMISMATIC SOCIETY, PCGS,
but none with a date other than date in letter,
which is worthless.
a click to southern coins as an example of what i say,
complements of mr corell to me.
in lead can be seen as far back as april 17 1973,
thanks to research by by mr. corell.
who located this article for me.
two letters, wright to taylor,
which may or may not be true, saying four coins made,
brushing aside paragraph of copies to be made,
I hope they can be found.
mine is not lead, but this coin has 19 buds
and flowers on corn stalk, mine has 17 , the orginal,
since the obverse is 28 mm
WITH CRACK FROM NOSE TO RIM,
OF A SEATED LIBERTY 1861 DATE.
1 over 0 in date,
A REVERSE OF COINFEDERATE DIE WITH CRACK
THROUGH HALF DOL.
WEIGHT WOULD DEPEND ON MATERIAL AVAILABLE
A L FOR LOVETT HIDDEN,
AT THE STRICKING OF 4 TRAIL COINS,
LETTERS WRIGHT AND TAYLOR CANNOT BE LOCATED,
AS WELL AS THE COMPOSITION OF THE COIN.
LOVETT USED NICKLEL COPPER,
composition of coin is not mentioned, nor size, only
shortage of bullion suapended printing after four coins,
leaving one to believe the weight
and composition is in question,
What was the real silver content.
I understand the norm is 192 grains for half dollar,
or 412 dollar silver, but the shortage of bullion
affected this, who knows if all four weighed the same.
DIE TRAILS, NOT KNOWING MINT WOULD CLOSE ,GIVEN AS GIFTS TO
DEDiCATED WORKERS, FOR THEIR TIME AND EFFORT.INTIALS PUT AS A TOKEN,
AS ONE DOES ON A GIFT.
since the obverse is 28 mm
as is also the confederate side, 28 mm.
atotaly new coin,
Journal of Numismatics, upon learning
of this coin and die, suggested that:
having been struck in the New Orleans Mint
by government officers,
with government tools, and ,
should be restored to its true ownership,
and that it be placed in the Mint Cabinet
NOT FOLLOWED UP BY MASON.
why not the reverse also?
THIS is because taylor only kept the confederate reverse side,
if this is true, who knows.
refurbishing of coin dies is key.
he may of added or removed from orginal dies,
alleged to be davis,
Eric P. Newman Education Foundation, alleged to have ames coin,
RIDDLE(BIDDLE) coin where abouts unknown.
not showing there coin, and the ANS, ANS coin is used in all
alleged to be taylors,
with metal sticking to dies.weight questionable, no bullion,
reverse design based on restrick, questionable,
ANS without cross reference due to its date,
to another specimen is questionable,
more so with date on ANS coin, not verified to others.
the US obverse die
had a crack running from the edge
of the coin to Liberty?s nose.
Following the production of these four coins,
a regular US reverse die
was placed in the coin press and produced
coins that show the crack
IT increasing in size with each
coining, mine is small
and one of the first produced.
As a result, while numismatists
can not distinguish among double eagles
manufactured by the US,
the State or the Confederacy, the increased die crack are referred to
as "Confederate" halves, as well as the four
with confederate reverses.
ASK YOUR SELF WHY ARE THESE COINS HIDDEN, CAN THEY BE DIFFERENT,
WHICH IS THE REAL ONE, I SHOW YOU MINE, I HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE.
MINE HAS 17 BUDS AND FLOWERS THIS HAD 19 BUDS AND FLOWERS
Mr. Harold Levi,expertise on history of one cent and lovett
mr levys page click below
ONE QUALIFIED TO APPRAISE THESE COINS
WILL NOT DO FROM PHOTOS
Please contact our closest appropriate member(s)
directly for professional appraisal:
James H. Cohen, ASA
Accredited Senior Appraiser
437 Royal St
New Orleans, LA 70130-2103
Phone:
(504) 522-3305
Email:
[email protected]
Fax:
(504) 523-7603
Specialty:
Numismatics
Dear Angelo,
Thank you so much for sending us the image of your coin.
Please let us know if you may be interested in exhibiting
the coin at the New Orleans Mint building once repairs to the
facility have been completed. It will likely reopen in
late 2007 or early 2008.
Best regards,
Greg Lambousy
Director of Collections
Louisiana State Museum
1000 Chartres Street
New Orleans, LA 70116
[email protected]
(504) 599-1946
[email protected] museum in new orleans site of orginal mint
to display coin on their opening,in about a year from now,
you will be bound by this commitment.
THE FINAL DETERMINATION WILL BE MINE.
COIN WILL NOT BE SENT,WE CAN ARRANGE INSPECTION
UPON VERIFICATION OF PERSON MAKING REQUEST.
ALL DEALING FOR MY COIN MUST GO THROUGH ME AT,
e mail [email protected]
E-MAIL
CLICK
GOOGLE
redirect google
redirect to google
eb------ 
ing 1861 coin
