Posted by Joseph Malik [JosephMalik] on April 01, 1999 at 15:42:47 {feW1wc1uNQwtN58YgBC6kwPNhmZ1io}:
In Reply to: ******Joseph, Judgment Day-Moved UP posted by Gary on April 01, 1999 at 11:02:17:
Hi Joseph,
>>I'm sorry, but the Bible is quite clear that persons will be held
accountable for what they say and do during their lives.
Wonderful, that is what I have been saying all along. No need to be sorry. But what if such an accounting turns out bad for them? In such cases they will not be raised during Judgement day, the time when Jesus will judge them when he arrives with his angels, the time during which He rules, the symbolic and exclusive 1,000 years of His Kingdom. And you will be required to face this Judgement as well. Are you prepared to face it?
>>Jesus said: "I tell you that every unprofitable saying that men speak, they will render an account concerning it on JUDGMENT DAY." (Matthew 12:41)
Why did you not include the entire thought Gary? What are you trying to conceal here? This what should have been shown.
35 A good man out of the good treasure of the heart bringeth forth good things: and an evil man out of the evil treasure bringeth forth evil things. 36 But I say unto you, That every idle word that men shall speak, they shall give account thereof in the day of judgment. 37 For by thy words thou shalt be justified, and by thy words thou shalt be condemned.
This is what I teach and this is what you do not understand. Not everyone will be raised to life on Judgement day as some due to the evil treasure of their heart "shalt be condemned." But we will have to wait until then to learn who gets life and who is condemned. This is simply another way of saying what was taught in the parable of the sheep and goats.
>>Jesus said: "The queen of the south will be raised up in the judgment with this generation and will condemn it...." (Matthew 12)
As long as the treasure is acceptable even if it is from such non-dedicated ones as the queen of the south, such persons will be raised to life as sheep. Their testimony and witness will condemn even the dedicated generation that produced evil treasure.
>>So the JUDGMENT is for what people did during their lives, when they
Perhaps thought God wasn't looking or keeping notes.
But the Judgement is also a part of the 1,000 years and not after as Christ raises the dead and rules with his disciples only during this specific time as shown.
>>Now that fundmanetal understanding makes it totally unnecessary for them to be resurrected during the millennium or re-taught anything. They had enough based upon their own consciences and their own actions during their lives not get life, OR to be condemned.
So you think then that some will be raised just to be told off after the 1000 years? How confused. Judgement day is for everyone even dedicated ones like the Jews that died under the LAW the angels (messengers of the covenant) of their time. The holy ones will judge them in that life as well. 1 Corinthians 6:3 Know ye not that we shall judge angels? how much more things that pertain to this life? The scriptures do not isolate judgement day or them as you do. Those judged worthy to enter this time period based on their good treasure still need the knowledge, training and association that leads to everlasting life. John 13:3 And this is life eternal, that they might know thee the only true God, and Jesus Christ, whom thou hast sent. They are still subject to second death. They are all immortal yes, but second death still has authority over them as this is the ONLY distinction that exists between the holy ones and them. The Watchtower does not understand this and neither do you as you still support their doctrines.
>>So it's not going to be a scenario of, "Hey, I know you were an axe murderer and raped and pillaged all during your first life, but all that's forgotten now.
This is your scenario not the scriptural one just discussed. The
axe murder will have produced evil treasure and would have been condemned. You have failed to support any of your doctrines most of which are also Watchtower ones as stated and your lack of understanding of this matter is very visible for
all to see.
Joseph