Because so many are asking what the Tribber Viewpoint is, here is a summary of it.

Tribber Viewpoint - Matthew 24:29-31 - Jesus said that He would come AFTER the TRIBULATION to GATHER His elect. So if He GATHERS them AFTER the TRIBULATION, then obviously they have to be here during the TRIBULATION. There is no where in Scripture that says the elect/saints/believers (Church/Body of Christ) will be transported from Earth before any 7 year period of time. There is nothing in this Scripture that indicates in anyway that it is not intended for the elect/saints/church.

2 Thessalonians 2:1 also gives the same order of events, first the Coming, then GATHERING.

The air in 1 Thessalonians 4:17 is earthly atmosphere, not higher into the heavens. It also means to breathe or blow. Who breathes the Breath of Life into people, Who is the Breath of Life? The word caught can mean pull, catch away, claim to one's self.

Jesus says in Revelation 16:15 to watch, so who is supposed to be watching but the elect/saints. He certainly wouldn't be talking to unbelievers, He is talking to His elect through John. Garments refers to righteousness. This verse does not state that this admonition is just for those saved after the start and during the Tribulation.

The description of the fall of Babylon mentioned in Revelation 18, takes place at Bowl 7. (Revelation 16:19) The command for God's people to "come out of her," Revelation 18:4, would then have to be sounded before the destruction of Babylon, Bowl 7, and before Christ's coming at Trumpet 7. This would mean that God's people would still be on Earth at that point in time.


~ VERSES ~

Matthew 24:29 "Immediately AFTER the TRIBULATION of those days shall the sun be darkened, and the moon shall not give her light, and the stars shall fall from heaven, and the powers of the heavens shall be shaken:" Matthew 24:30 "And then shall appear the sign of the Son of Man in heaven: and then shall all the tribes of the earth mourn, and they shall see the Son of Man coming in the clouds of heaven with power and great glory." Matthew 24:31 "And He shall send His angels with a great sound of a trumpet, and they shall GATHER together His elect from the four winds, from one end of heaven to the other."

2 Thessalonians 2:1 "Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our GATHERING together unto Him,"

1 Thessalonians 4:17 "Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord."

1 Corinthians 15:52 "In a moment, in the twinkling of an eye, at the last trump: for the trumpet shall sound, and the dead shall be raised incorruptible, and we shall be changed."

Revelation 16:15 "Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame."
Revelation 16:16 "And He gathered them together into a place called in the Hebrew tongue Armageddon."
Revelation 16:17 "And the seventh angel poured out his vial into the air; and there came a great voice out of the temple of heaven, from the throne, saying, It is done."

Revelation 18:4 "And I heard another voice from heaven, saying, Come out of her, My people, that ye be not partakers of her sins, and that ye receive not of her plagues."


~ EARTHQUAKES AND HAIL ~

NOTE: The 6th Seal involves an Earthquake and Hail. Keep in mind that the 7th Bowl involves a great Earthquake. You will also find that the 7th Trumpet involves an Earthquake and Hail. So these Seal, Trumpet and Bowl prophecies may all be fulfilled at about the same time because each one has reference to a great Earthquake or great Earthquake and Hail.


~ GATHERING ~

These are the verses on GATHERING in the O.T. Because all will be in the spiritual body after Christ's return, (1 Corinthians 15:52) it would seem that the O.T and N.T. GATHERING is all one and the same. In the O.T. it mentions a GATHERING to Jerusalem. In the N.T. it mentions through the atmospheric Earth to the very Presence of Jesus Christ, also right here on Earth. (Zechariah 14:9 Revelation 11:15)

Zechariah 14:9 "And the LORD shall be king over all the earth: in that day shall there be one LORD, and his name one."

Revelation 11:15 "And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever."

O.T. GATHERING VERSES - Isaiah 11:11,12 27:12,13 54:7 Jeremiah 23:3 Ezekiel 11:17 Micah 2:12 Zephaniah 3:20 ~ AND ~ Isaiah 43:5-7 66:18 Jeremiah 29:14 31:8,10 32:37 Ezekiel 20:34,41 22:19 28:25,26 36:24,25 37:21-28 39:25-29

When will this GATHERING be? At End of 7 Bowls and at the 7th Trumpet.


~ GOD'S WILL AND TIME TABLE - NOT MAN'S ~

God's Will and His Time Table will decide how it will all be fulfilled. ALMIGHTY GOD, ETERNAL AND GREAT KING, CREATOR OF HEAVEN AND EARTH, THE GREAT I AM is in control and ON HIS THRONE.

History is a fulfillment of His declared Prophecy.

Isaiah 46:10 - "Declaring the end from the beginning, and from ancient times the things that are not yet done, saying, My counsel shall stand, and I will do all my pleasure;"

Isaiah 14:24 "The Lord of Hosts hath sworn, saying, Surely as I have thought, so shall it come to pass; and as I have purposed so shall it stand."

Isaiah 46:9 - "Remember the former things of old; for I am God, and there is none else; I am God, and there is none like Me,"


~ COMING AS THIEF VERSES ~

Matthew 24:42-44 "Watch therefore: for ye know not what hour your Lord doth come." 43 "But know this, that if the goodman of the house had known in what watch the thief would come, he would have watched, and would not have suffered his house to be broken up." 44 "Therefore be ye also ready: for in such an hour as ye think not the Son of man cometh."

1 Thessalonians 5:2-6 "For yourselves know perfectly that the day of the Lord so cometh as a thief in the night." 3 "For when they shall say, Peace and safety; then sudden destruction cometh upon them, as travail upon a woman with child; and they shall not escape." 4 "But ye, brethren, are not in darkness, that that day should overtake you as a thief." 5 "Ye are all the children of light, and the children of the day: we are not of the night, nor of darkness." 6 "Therefore let us not sleep, as do others; but let us watch and be sober."

2 Peter 3:10 "But the day of the Lord will come as a thief in the night; in the which the heavens shall pass away with a great noise, and the elements shall melt with fervent heat, the earth also and the works that are therein shall be burned up."

Revelation 3:3-5 "Remember therefore how thou hast received and heard, and hold fast, and repent. If therefore thou shalt not watch, I will come on thee as a thief, and thou shalt not know what hour I will come upon thee." 4 "Thou hast a few names even in Sardis which have not defiled their garments; and they shall walk with me in white: for they are worthy." 5 "He that overcometh, the same shall be clothed in white raiment; and I will not blot out his name out of the book of life, but I will confess his name before my Father, and before his angels."

Revelation 16:15 "Behold, I come as a thief. Blessed is he that watcheth, and keepeth his garments, lest he walk naked, and they see his shame."


~ ORIGINAL GREEK WORDS ~


~ GATHER ~

1996 episunago {ep-ee-soon-ag'-o}
from 1909 and 4863;; v
AV - gather together 5, gather 2; 7
1) to gather together besides, to bring together to others already assembled
2) to gather together against
3) to gather together in one place


~ ELECT ~

1588 eklektos {ek-lek-tos'}
from 1586; TDNT - 4:181,505; adj
AV - elect 16, chosen 7; 23
1) picked out, chosen
1a) chosen by God,
1a1) to obtain salvation through Christ
1a1a) Christians are called "chosen or elect" of God
1a2) the Messiah in called "elect", as appointed by God to the most exalted office conceivable
1a3) choice, select, i.e. the best of its kind or class, excellence preeminent: applied to certain individual Christians


~ CAUGHT ~

26 harpazo {har-pad'-zo}
from a derivative of 138; TDNT - 1:472,80; v
AV - catch up 4, take by force 3, catch away 2, pluck 2, catch 1, pull 1; 13
1) to seize, carry off by force
2) to seize on, claim for one's self eagerly
3) to snatch out or away


~ TOGETHER ~

260 hama {ham'-ah}
a primary particle;;
AV - together 3, withal 3, with 1, and 1, misc 2; 10 adv.
1) at the same time, at once, together prep.
2) together with


~ TO MEET ~

529 apantesis {ap-an'-tay-sis}
from 528; TDNT - 1:380,64; n f
AV - to meet + 1519 4; 4
1) to meet one


~ UNTO ~

1519 eis {ice} a primary preposition; TDNT - 2:420,211; prep
AV - into 573, to 281, unto 207, for 140, in 138, on 58, toward 29, against 26, misc 322; 1774
1) into, unto, to, towards, for, among


~ AIR ~

109 aer {ah-ayr'}
from aemi (to breathe unconsciously, i.e. respire; by analogy, to blow); TDNT - 1:165,25; n m
AV - air 7; 7
1) the air, particularly the lower and denser air as distinguished from the higher and rarer air
2) the atmospheric region


Glory to GOD, \o/
JESUS CHRIST SHALL RETURN, AS KING!