vincemaniak says, "No offense, but Yahoo! has always had that boring look with "boring" graphics. How about a more modern look, but of course then you would have to change the rest of Yahoo! too."

clubsproducer says, "mIRC?"

Garrit_Sherova says, "maybe there should be a delay before the emails are sent out so a founder has time to delete unwanted messages..."

Secretive__ says, "but those people sharing them don't participate on the club or respond to the post within the club"

clubsproducer says, "the merged product will have a face lift"

clubfoundersclub says, "it's 3rd party software for IRC chat"

not_filo says, "Vince - that's why I LIKE Yahoo!"

clubsproducer says, "to give it a more modern look"

clubsproducer says, "nothing too radical though"

clubsproducer says, ""

valerie_008 says, "Yes. Modern - but still fast and simple!"

drew_berry_more says, "what good does it do to keep your out of your clubs by sending posted e mail...Id rather my members come to my club to read posts instead of be in their e mail box from my clubs,,,i want them in the club,"

debbie91949 says, "Only drawback I've really seen is the deleted messages still appear to those who receive their messages by email. Some of those messages were deleted because they're really obnoxious ... or pornographic."

drew_berry_more says, "your members i ment"

clubfoundersclub says, "but the point is that it allows for moderating discussions like this one, running a time/date stamp transcript"

clubfoundersclub says, "banning people from chat who are disruptive"

Secretive__ says, "debbie: or disruptive to the club"

clubfoundersclub says, "blocking outside messages"

not_filo says, "But for mIRC to work, Yahoo! Chat would have to be in IRC, wouldn't it?"

clubsproducer says, "you can moderate the email discussions"

clubsproducer says, "on eGroups"

Secretive__ says, "Warren: could yahoo have an IRC server backdoor?"

clubsproducer says, "and you will be able to as well on the merged product"

clubsproducer says, "so you can actually review each message before you allow it to be posted"

clubsproducer says, "i doubt it on the IRC question"

clubfoundersclub says, "shades of big brother censorship there"

clubsproducer says, "i don't know much about the chat software to be honest though"

vincemaniak says, "For our message boards, we should have open/closed posts so we can either accept replies or not allow replies to our posts."

clubsproducer says, "it won't be in every club"

clubfoundersclub says, "oh, we'll have to get your feet wet on EFNet or Dalnet"

clubsproducer says, "you can choose that if you want"

drew_berry_more says, "why not just go to IRC yourself instead of be here then or go Cchat2.5 I do sometimes,,,its cool and a releif to get away sometimes "

not_filo says, "What do you mean? - CFC"

clubsproducer says, "so if you like to keep tight reins on your club"

clubsproducer says, "go ahead"

clubsproducer says, "if you like it free-flowing, you can have that too"

geo_pocahontas says, "oh lovely....porn spam"

clubfoundersclub says, "you think the chatter is fast in here...you aint seen nothing"

clubsproducer says, "it's a matter of your goals with what you want your club to act like"

* vincemaniak leaves.

* vincemaniak enters.

drew_berry_more says, "i love tight reins on my clubs to keep out BASHERS and Spammers"

clubsproducer says, "see, and that will be your choice to do so drew"

clubsproducer says, "how's tom green by the way? "

clubsproducer says, "j/k"

clubfoundersclub says, "and I prefer people feel comfortable enough to complain about whatever they want to "

drew_berry_more says, "thank you,,,your just too nice

* thejackofclubs enters.

not_filo says, "Drew - or people who endlessly whine about off-topic subjects...."

clubfoundersclub says, "it's how you approach it."

clubsproducer says, "yeah"

Secretive__ says, "drew: because soWarren: with the message responding to beign able to be attached, is there an editing us founders cna use to snip that prior message off if a person wasn't quoting but was merely lazy?"

clubsproducer says, "and we want to make clubs pretty much do what you want it to

* vincemaniak leaves.

Secretive__ says, "drew: sorry the first three words got mixed in ... I thought I backspaced far enough to send in a question"

clubsproducer says, "yes secretive, i believe so"

clubfoundersclub says, "so are we going to be able to deck the halls with holly backgrounds for Christmas, Warren?"

clubsproducer says, "i'll have to make sure on that though"

clubsproducer says, "yes... you will"

clubsproducer says, "i'm not sure when though"

clubsproducer says, "dependant on my yahoo"

clubfoundersclub says, "ah, but the backdoor is closed"

clubsproducer says, "i think i mentioned that a couple times already "

drew_berry_more says, "someone mentioned on the msn board that there could be a holding period for msn in posts so that the founder could aproove them b4 theyr seen"

clubsproducer says, "yes, backdoor is closed"

clubsproducer says, "to prevent malicious hacks"

debbie91949 says, "So ... when we can add backgrounds in Yahoo Clubs, we can also add them in My Yahoo?"

drew_berry_more says, "but then dead clubs would never have posts"

clubsproducer says, "yes debbie"

clubsproducer says, "only if they choose that option"

clubsproducer says, "but the default option is not to have a moderated club"

clubfoundersclub says, "I think what he's saying is that the whole thing will be available sometime after Labor Day and before Christmas.

* Darling_Nik enters

clubsproducer says, "what whole thing?"

clubfoundersclub says, "backgrounds"

valerie_008 says, "how do you announce changes?"

not_filo says, "Talking about dead clubs, are you thinking of ever cleaning out the clubs that haven't been touched in a year?"

clubsproducer says, "no definite timeframe on backgrounds"

clubsproducer says, "yes we will clean up dead clubs soon

* Garrit_Sherova is away (Auto-Away)

debbie91949 says, "Good ... that should free up a lot of space!"

clubsproducer says, "if no member has logged in during a 3-6 month period

* Garrit_Sherova is back.

OldOnliner says, "I thought he said it'd be December before they got databaes merged, but early 2001 before its a merged service? "

Secretive__ says, "Warren: if someone logs in but doesn't post on a club, is it considered dead in your opinion?"

debbie91949 says, "Of the approx 300 clubs in the Cat category, I'd swear 250 are "dead""

clubsproducer says, "we'll delete"

Secretive__ says, "I mean some clubs have people hopping in but they haven't had a posting in 3 or 6 months"

drew_berry_more says, "there are a few dead clubs id like to founder,,,,are yall going to offer members the option to founder them b4 you delete them?"

clubsproducer says, "yes"

clubsproducer says, "but if they've had no activity"

valerie_008 says, "I have a club about a winter sport - no activity in summer... don't delete it!"

clubsproducer says, "it's dead"

clubsproducer says, "post or no post"

clubfoundersclub says, "Yes, someone mentioned offering "this club is up for adoption" Is that a possibility?"

clubsproducer says, "and there are quite a lot that have no activity whatsoever"

debbie91949 says, "Good ... because some of dead clubs have recent posts like "is this club dead?""

clubsproducer says, "val - just check in every 3 months or so to keep it alive"

valerie_008 says, " I do.."

clubsproducer says, "you dont have to post, just make sure you log in"

clubsproducer says, "no club for adoption isn't something we're planning to do"

Secretive__ says, "so logging in only will keep a club alive enough to not have it deleted?"

* geo_pocahontas is back.

clubsproducer says, "it's a sticky situation when a club gets abandoned"

OldOnliner says, "How about Junkemail club? It has an old post... "This club is NOT dead!" ;-) "

debbie91949 says, "How about an active club where the founder has vanished? Will there be an option for an active member to become a founder?"

clubsproducer says, "secretive---"

clubsproducer says, "here's the plan..."

clubsproducer says, "if a club has had no member log in in 3 months (the time frame is still not certain, could be longer)"

clubsproducer says, "then we will send the founder a note"

clubsproducer says, "saying that the club will be deleted unless they or another club member logs in"

clubsproducer says, "they will have one week to do so"

clubsproducer says, "if they still haven't logged in, and no other member has in this time"

OldOnliner says, "Sounds just like eGroups' setup, Warren."

clubsproducer says, "we'll delete the club for inactivity"

valerie_008 says, "that sounds good."

drew_berry_more says, "Are you going to ad things such as waves to play in chat like Cchat 2.5 has?"

gniwgniw says, "very good"

Garrit_Sherova says, "when will you start cleaning up inactive clubs?"

drew_berry_more says, "I think the time frame should be at least 6 months"