clubsproducer says, "because who's to say when you know it's a mistake?"

clubsproducer says, "3 days?"

clubsproducer says, "3 weeks?"

clubsproducer says, "so we'll probably choose one or the other"

debbie91949 says, "3 seconds, usually!"

clubsproducer says, "the ability to go back and forth"

geo_pocahontas says, "3 weeks is too long"

clubsproducer says, "or not at all"

clubfoundersclub says, "LOL"

valerie_008 says, "3 minutes"

clubsproducer says, "sorry all... i'll brb"

clubfoundersclub says, "no problem"

weafz1 says, "dont tyt"

clubsproducer says, "gotta chat with someone real quick before they walk out "

weafz1 says, ""

debbie91949 says, "No problem, Warren. Valerie, sure is good to see you back!"

clubfoundersclub says, "Hey, Valerie, that's good news about your other clubs... hi-5 to clubsproducer"

valerie_008 says, "Yes, it's just LADY FOUNDERS"

OldOnliner says, "Only one of Valerie's clubs was Unlisted... all the rest and a few innocent ones got nuked, too."

Secretive__ says, "clubsproducer" on going back and forth, I was thinking of a secondary main cover page they could use that wouldn't permit looking at lists of member names, the stats, or the top 5 recent posts appearing to 'guests' ... basically having their club name listed but a contact info as well"

valerie_008 says, "that's lost"

not_filo says, "Which club was lost permanently?"

valerie_008 says, "then some unlisted clubs"

debbie91949 says, "eGroups Merger is a really hot issue club, too. That's too bad!"

valerie_008 says, "That can be recovered. I am happy that we had a member list of LADY FOUNDERS"

clubsproducer says, "back!"

OldOnliner says, "I really hope that clubs retains its frameset approach. Those eGroups pages really leave me cold. They're so plain and texttual... reminds me of viewing a spreadsheet or something"

Secretive__ says, "like on the go_away.html page saying something like "this club is private, if you would like to know more about it please contact [email protected]"

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valerie_008 says, "oh we should edit ALL Yahoo! error messages... "

* gniwgniw enters.

Secretive__ says, "but if a person wanted their name of the club to listed, why not?"

clubfoundersclub says, "good plan...make it a kinder, gentler Yahoo!

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OldOnliner says, "Yea, verily, Valerie."

clubfoundersclub says, "at minimum, more polite"

clubsproducer says, "we'll clean up our error messages"

debbie91949 says, "Agree, Valerie ... but the edited error messages should be posted in the Yahoo clubhouse so when members start seeing new error messages, they won't freak out."

clubsproducer says, "probably will have to happen with the merge though..."

clubfoundersclub says, "LOL"

drew_berry_more says, "please."

clubfoundersclub says, "good point"

valerie_008 says, "right!"

clubsproducer says, "ok, blue

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clubsproducer says, "oh wait"

clubsproducer says, "clubfoudersclub is blue"

clubsproducer says, "hold on"

clubsproducer says, ""

clubfoundersclub says, "so...about the coffee service...you know what I was referring to was a customizable gimmick section"

Secretive__ says, "well at least change go_away.html to invite_only.html or private_club.html"

clubsproducer says, "gray"

clubsproducer says, "bold gray"

clubsproducer says, "okay... yeah we want to change the name of that page"

valerie_008 says, ""

clubfoundersclub says, "am I confusing people with my ID?"

drew_berry_more says, "not me LOL"

Secretive__ says, "another name change request, if I may?"

valerie_008 says, "better would be: no eror messages...."

OldOnliner says, "Is that why, last weekend, we got 404 errors instead of the go_away.html?"

clubfoundersclub says, "LOL"

clubsproducer says, "but that would require a hefty code push"

not_filo says, "I got that, too - OldOnliner"

clubsproducer says, "which we don't have the resources to do now"

clubfoundersclub says, "I got some free time...I could come to Santa Clara"

Secretive__ says, "the news section is misleading of a link section ... since it also can be customized to hold bookmarks and searches ...."

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Secretive__ says, "could it be renamed to Resources or something like that?"

gniwgniw says, "yes, seperate bookmarks would help"

clubsproducer says, "404 errors should be fixed now"

clubfoundersclub says, "I think a lot of the things we've been complaining about are going to answered with this E-Groups thing."

debbie91949 says, "Absolutely ... bookmarks that can be subdivided into various category folders!"

clubsproducer says, "the template wasn't properly loaded on all the club servers"

OldOnliner says, "I'd like to see Bookmarks be a stand-alone club module and dump the Links Page. (Course... merger will address that.)"

Secretive__ says, "many of my new members don't realize that I have over 150 links in that area along with the others in thE Links areas"

drew_berry_more says, "im missing 10 albums in one of my clubs,,,,,andI came back to itone day and it showed unfounded"

drew_berry_more says, "took our links too"

clubfoundersclub says, "and the third rule of computing is: "thou shalt create back-up""

drew_berry_more says, "we have 21 albums but only 11 show"

gniwgniw says, "guilty! LOL"

OldOnliner says, "Of course, now that we know how to export our club bookmarks, we can make them viewale by non-members, too. A great plus, if you ask me."

vincemaniak says, "What about our own club Briefcase! that would be cool. That would make our clubs virtually websites!"

clubsproducer says, "yup, we'll have briefcases in clubs"

drew_berry_more says, "owned by the founder to edit"

clubsproducer says, "for full file sharing capabilities"

not_filo says, "cool!"

clubsproducer says, "again... i apologize if i fade in and out... i'm doing 10 things at once here and still trying to keep up in this chat "

Secretive__ says, "Warren: that's ok with me"

debbie91949 says, "Now that so many of us have discovered linking photos to reduce the space used ... can we have more albums and more photos per album?"

weafz1 says, "when will the thing with e groups happen"

clubfoundersclub says, "Somewhere out there, Warren, I wrote a message about a Yahoo! club webring I have going. It's small, it's got a few defects. The point is I have to turn people away registering clubs, not homepages"

OldOnliner says, "Yeah... you can call them the "Club Closet" or something"

Secretive__ says, "weafz: in january or febuary I think"

clubsproducer says, "if the deal is successful, the merger will take place august 31st"

Secretive__ says, "oh ..sooner?"

debbie91949 says, "Welcome to the Wonderful World of Multi-tasking, Warren!"

drew_berry_more says, "thank you for letting us know that date "

clubfoundersclub says, "oh, and we should start seeing changes right away?"

clubsproducer says, "but the actual merged product won't be ready until around january"

clubfoundersclub says, "okay"

vincemaniak says, "I think that Yahoo! clubs should be listed in the Yahoo! Directory. Not just Clubs directory."

OldOnliner says, "brb... helping wife"

clubsproducer says, "it will take a good 4-6 months to merge all our databases and code"

Secretive__ says, "Warren: I will admit I am dubious about the HTML thoughts on the message board area ... due to experiences on Inside The Web and other sites that offered that"

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clubfoundersclub says, "any chance on getting some bugs worked out of the current system by Christmas?"

clubsproducer says, "so changes won't be evident when the deal closes"

clubsproducer says, "yes, we are working on alot of the bugs now... some are oddly baffling"

clubsproducer says, "like the directory list one"

clubsproducer says, "when it shows you as the only member of your club"

clubsproducer says, "even when there's more"

clubsproducer says, "that's definitely something we're looking at"

clubfoundersclub says, "you mean, like the one that still doesn't show The Official Club as a Founder Club category"

drew_berry_more says, "We need a CHAT logo for this club displaying it when wer in chat so more people will know to come in at these times"

clubsproducer says, "HTML thoughts?"

gniwgniw says, "warren, right now, eGroups host commercial sites. How will they merge properly with clubs which cannot conduct businesses?"

not_filo says, "Warren, do you know about the club "Dear YaWho"?"

Garrit_Sherova says, "after the merger, will all founders still be founders or will there only be one founder in addition to cofounders?"

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weafz1 says, "I am sure u all heard about Saudi banning yahoo clubs..I will be going back on Aug 31...do u think there is a way i can go arround the firewall...whats the internet without yahoo clubs.."

clubsproducer says, "commercial eGroups are something we need to figure out"

drew_berry_more says, "thats a great idea cCFC"

Secretive__ says, "Warrren: adding images an dsuch into the messages"

clubfoundersclub says, "hey, I like that... a flag at the top of the page that says "chat in progress""

gniwgniw says, "thank you warren"

drew_berry_more says, "thatd be great "

clubsproducer says, "we need to decide what stance we want to take on this... nothing has been determined as of yet"

drew_berry_more says, "or a chat animated sign? maybe?"

clubsproducer says, "secretive -- the messages area will allow emails with attachments"

vincemaniak says, "Another good addition would be a Yahoo! Storefront, where we can sell items from our club. But that would be hard, right?"

clubsproducer says, "so you can attach photos or files"

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Secretive__ says, "warren: is there a possibility of allowing that to be opitional to the founder if that is something they want to allow in their club?"

clubsproducer says, "so if you don't like attachments... take it out"

clubsproducer says, "yes"

Secretive__ says, "*whew*"

clubsproducer says, "you will be allowed to choose"

Secretive__ says, "thanks Warren *smile*"

clubsproducer says, "whew is right..."

clubsproducer says, "i'm trying to keep up in here!"

clubsproducer PP

clubsproducer says, ""

Secretive__ says, "heheheheh"

clubfoundersclub says, "well, it's nice to know somethings will be customizable and otherwise remain comfortably the same"

drew_berry_more says, "Can you put the option for founder to deside about e mailing going out of their clubs in posts I dont wwant e mail going our of any of my clubs at all....."

clubsproducer says, "that is still being debated"

clubsproducer says, "i think that this should be a user choice"

Secretive__ says, "<--- also doesn't like the e-mail option"

clubsproducer says, "if i want to be kept in contact with my group or club by email"

clubsproducer says, "i should have that right"

gniwgniw says, "agrees w/warren"

drew_berry_more says, "thank you so much...Id like to keep some posts,such as bashers and ads out of it"

clubsproducer says, "and actually"

clubfoundersclub says, "okay, let's talk about other chat problems...have you for instance ever seen mIRC?"

clubsproducer says, "egroups have shown to be more active and vibrant than clubs"

Secretive__ says, "warren: I understand your views, but some people don't use it that way ... i've seen some of those e-mailed messags shared in other clubs"

clubsproducer says, "because so many people interact through email rather than strictly on the web"

clubsproducer says, "so it's actually a benifit for clubs to allow that."