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New Guide to Replacing ASR-X Rotary Encoders (knobs)

April 19, 2003 ~ Help Wanted Productions (David Talento) has posted a photographic guide to replacing the Rotary Encoders on an ASR-X sampler using the Mouser Electronics Part Number 318-ENC160-24P. User response to the Mouser replacement encoders has been nothing but positive!

Detailed part description from HWP:

Supplier: Alpha/Xicon
Category: Encoders & Attenuators
Mouser Part#: 318-ENC160-24P
Mfgr. Part#: 318-ENC160-24P
Xicon/Alpha Rotary Encoders 16MM ROTARY ENCODER
Cost: $2.40/each

How To Replace ASR-X Rotary Encoders (knobs)
Articles from ASR-X Users

April 20, 2003 ~ The guide to replacing the Rotary Encoders published at the Help Wanted Productions website appears to have been based in part on the original 'How To' articles submitted by one time ASR-X list members Aaaron, Michale A., Shifty, and UGO. I've consolidated these three reports from seperate web pages into one for ease of reference.

Part Three - June 2004 ~ by Aaaron and Michale A.
Part Two - August 2002 ~ by Shifty
Part One - February 2001 ~ by UGO


June 4, 2002 ~ Trackstabber from the ASR-X list at Yahoo! Groups reports on a source of replacement Rotary Encoders he was VERY pleased with: Mouser Electronics Part Number 318-ENC160-24P

"All right, so I got these encoders in this weekend. They seem far better than the original ones. I bought my ASR-X used, so I don't know how they felt when they were new, but I do know that they were jumping values all over the place. It took me a while to get the first one in, but I got the second one in about 30 minutes total. The hardest part was removing the solder (just like I heard). To remove the solder I used a solder remover that consisted of a rubber bulb with a special heat resistant tip (this was all I had on hand, I bought this at radio shack several years ago). I ordered two types of encoders, but the ones that fit were the 16 mm ones (MOUSER# 318-ENC160-24P.) I got the encoder all the way on the board when I realized when you put the rubber knob back on the encoder, the PCB will no longer fit on the metal front panel. These encoders are slightly longer than the originals. I thought of modifying the knob to make it fit, but I came up with a better idea. I removed the knobs, installed the board, and put the knobs on from the outside. Now they stick out a little farther, but it was much easier than drilling the knob. These encoders are great. Let me know if anyone has any questions about this."

To which Michael A. replied:

"the repair tech at the store I work at installed the Mouser encoders a couple of months ago (I'm not sure of the exact procedure, but I'm pretty sure he did similarly to what you describe) and they've worked great so far. They feel "stiffer" but I don't find that to be a problem at all...especially if they end up lasting longer than the original parts. :)"

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August 2001 ~ Shifty - another long time ASR-X user - was inspired to contact E-mu (based in part on UGO's experience) in regards to replacing/repairing the worn Rotary Encoders (Knobs) on his original ASR-X.

Apparently E-mu<>Ensoniq has outsourced the replacement parts business to EPR Electronics in New York, New York, USA. Read on...

"Emu/Ensoniq is giving the replacement parts business to a company called EPR Electronics.....so, call them at (845) 343-1237. They are only $4.64 apiece! I just ordered 3 (you gotta think ahead!)"

 

September 2001 ~ Shifty posted a fellow up message to the ASR-X list detailing his experience installing the new knobs:

"Yahoo!!! I just replaced both the Parameter and Select knobz on my black box and it works SUPER now. I can turn them as fast as I want in either direction...yes!

It took about an hour for the whole operation. I removed the top panel, then removed the PCB from the top panel. I left all the push buttons on but, if I did it again I would remove them and protect the screen with a piece of cloth taped over it.

Overall, it used a LOT of desoldering braid from Radio Shack, and my boring, old 20W soldering iron sufficed. I first "braided" some of the solder from the five connections on the top side of the board - there are three small electrical ones and two large mounting ones. Then I flipped the PCB over and braided all of the solder off the bottom connections... went through about 8 inches of solder braid and burned my fingers quite a bit ;)

Once I got the bad encoderz off, getting the black rubber knobs was tricky. After pulling on them with pliers to no avail, I figured out the only real method is to disassemble the encoder by pulling off the four tabs. Then, you see the encoder wheel inside. Kind of neat. You pry that wheel off with e.g. a butter knife and voila the knob comes off.

Before putting in the new pots, I revisited the holes with the desoldering braid again to make sure the through holes were completely clear. Then, popped in the new encoderz and simply soldered. A lot easier going in than coming out!

Then, before reassembling everything, I tested the black box by putting a magazine (all paper-no staples) over the ASR-X guts, resting the circuit board on top of there, plugging in the ribbon cable and turning on the box. I went promptly to track volume and spun the knob all around.

Beautiful! Better than it ever was! (I got mine used). Also the other knob is perfect.

Now I gotta attach all the screws, visit the green guy, and get back to the rock!

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February 2001 ~ Long time ASR-X user UGO posted the following in regards to replacing/repairing the worn Rotary Encoders (Knobs) on his original ASR-X. The same scenarios should apply equally to both models of ASR-X. Read on...

Hey Folks,

I finally got my X's rotary encoders fixed. No more jumping parameters! Ensoniq parts are now being handled through E-mu's parts department. At the suggestion of Ensoniq's Eric Montgomery, I contacted Michael Mastoris ( michaelm@e... ) in E-mu's parts department.

I first contacted him back in November '00. At that time they didn't have any encoders in stock but he said he'd contact me when they did. By mid-January I contacted him again to see if they had the parts yet. Michael said that he'd check into it for me and if they did, he'd send me two encoders free of charge.

I didn't hear from him for weeks and I was beginning to think that either the parts were no longer made or he just forgot again...but lo and behold, a package arrived last night from E-mu with two encoders in it (I've already sent Michael a thank you email.)

I don't know if sending free encoders is standard practice or if I just caught Michael while he was in a good mood. For anyone else out there who wants to get encoders from E-mu...I do not suggest saying "some guy said that he got his parts for free so I want mine for free too." I'd suggest politely stating your problems with the X's encoders and asking how much replacements are, etc. Perhaps if he is in a good mood then, you'll get your encoders for free like I did. But other than that, I'd plan on having to pay at least something.

Now the installation....

I have some electronics/soldering experience but its all on guitars and its not often that I ever have to touch a circuit board. Upon first look, I thought it could be a pretty easy job and figured I'd just do it myself. Thankfully I decided to enlist the assistance of an electronics tech friend that has started working with me and I am happy I did.

Each encoder is soldered to the board at 5 points. I watched my friend remove the encoders and I could tell that, although it was not too difficult for him, it would have been a total pain in the ass for me. Since its soldered at so many points, you cant just de-solder a connection and move on to the next one. you have to actually remove all the solder from each connection before you can move on to the next. Of course, while you are doing this, you also have to be very carefully not to overheat the board or else you can damage it. Basically, I don't suggest doing this yourself unless you have real experience with this sort of circuit board work; Otherwise take your X to a tech.

Once you've removed the old ones, installing the new encoders is a breeze. The lugs fit right into the old slots and its an easy soldering job from there.

As far as we could tell, the encoders for parameter and value are exactly the same (same part numbers on the encoders.) The new encoders were made by a different manufacturer than the originals. The first ones had no markings on them at all but the new ones had the symbol of their maker. Unfortunately I do not remember what company made them but if anyone wants to know, I can ask my friend. He was familiar with the manufacturer and said that they make good stuff.

The final pain in the butt in the process is bolting the board back on to the face plate. Getting all those little buttons to line up again is a challenge. My suggestion is to be patient and careful. The switches seem very fragile when they do not have the face plate supporting them.

I just got my X home but so far the new encoders are working just fine. They feel just like the old ones did when they were new. Now I say this particularly because, though they are no worse, they also don't feel any more solid than the originals. For example, they are still nowhere near as solid as the wavetable selector on my Microwave XT. So I am going to take it easy with the new encoders. I'm going to make a point of being relatively patient and gentle with them rather than giving them fast spins when I'm scrolling through options. This time I'd like to do what I can to make them last.

But in the end I am very happy. I finally have a properly functioning ASR-X again. Now I can actually do stuff like *find* patches on my world card! woohoo! :-)

<-Ugo->

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