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Five weeks for school computer fix -- GazetteXtra   SITE HELP Virus Bottled Water • SITE MAP   The Janesville Gazette WCLO WJVL Login or Register    Thursday, October 16, 2008 • JANESVILLE, WI NEWS Local State National/World Crime Public Record Money Special Sections Entertainment WEATHER OPINION Columns Political Cartoons Polls SPORTS Preps Packers Brewers Bucks Badgers Golf Motorsports National Other MULTIMEDIA Photos Photo Galleries Podcast Videos Slide Shows Maps COMMUNITY Births Couples Obituaries Death Notices BLOGS Blog List Latest Blog Entries GAZLO CLASS JOBS AUTO HOMES Search GazetteXtra: Five weeks for school computer fix By FRANK SCHULTZ ( Contact )   Wednesday, Oct. 15, 2008 EMAIL COMMENTS PRINT ADVERTISEMENT   JANESVILLE — Completely fixing the Janesville School District’s virus-damaged computer system will take at least five more weeks, business director Doug Bunton told the school board Tuesday. District employees have dealt with computer outages and have been unable to access important computer programs for about four weeks already, Bunton said. Bunton’s comments came after board members questioned him about an article in Monday’s Janesville Gazette. A teacher had complained to the newspaper, prompting the article. “I want teachers to know they can come to the board instead of to the press because we certainly will take virus gym infection them seriously,” board member Lori Stottler said. Bunton said he knows the outages are “a tremendous burden” for all staff members. The problem is that the virus attacked the district’s 80 servers, and it takes a long time to rebuild those servers, Bunton said. The servers tell the individual PCs how to access printers, the Internet and various programs, Bunton said, and that function has been disrupted. Bunton said about 75 percent of the system was running Tuesday, and the extent of the problems varied from place to place. Board President DuWayne Severson asked Bunton to provide the board updates on the problem at each board Free Virus Scan Trend Micr meeting. Meetings are held twice a month. Severson asked that Bunton’s next report include a description of the additional workers brought in to work on the system and a diagram showing how the system works. Once the fix is complete, Bunton said, the district must upgrade its computer defenses. One improvement would be to install Internet security filters at various points in the system and not just around its perimeter, he said. Severson commended the work being done without the aid of computers. Children are getting a good education despite the problems, he said. Stottler also noted that the district’s Web site, which has been inaccessible for several weeks, now contains out-of-date information, and other information is missing. She asked that the administration give top priority to redesigning the Web site. Sheryl Miller, district information coordinator, said workers have replaced missing information on the Web site, only to have it disappear. related STORIES Stottler criticizes school board ... (12) By FRANK SCHULTZ 10/15/08 School board debates superintendent ... By BETH WHEELOCK 10/14/08 Janesville students get ready ... By STEVE BENTON 10/14/08 Three weeks later, school ... (33) By FRANK SCHULTZ 10/13/08 Parker fight leads to ... (2) By GAZETTE STAFF 10/13/08 Superintendent to retire after ... (7) By FRANK SCHULTZ 10/11/08 Monterey Stadium might get ... (4) By FRANK SCHULTZ 10/11/08 The Janesville School District ... By STAN STRICKER 10/10/08 reader COMMENTS (49) imsmart2 Oct 15, 2008 at 11:50 p.m. Suggest removal The School Board won't list their email addresses on the website so they must want us to call them at home. Printing an email and putting a stamp on it?!? Certainly not! http://www.janesville.k12.wi.us/sdj/scho... Anyway, I plan on calling the commissioner and anyone else who'll pick up their phone and DEMAND that they listen to the people who elected them and get this Brandon Keirns, Doug Bunton, Tom Evert, and anyone else caught in the crossfire into a meeting and get some real answers. Let's hope as Employees, Parents, and Taxpayers that someone is held accountable or at the very least the truth be known by more than the ones who are hiding it. egalindo Oct 15, 2008 at 11:41 p.m. Suggest removal Just entered some late assignments and updated my students’ grades. One of the school board members said that, “children are getting a good education despite the problems” and that is because teachers are entering grades, attendance and reinventing lessons at home that are locked post card virus warnings up disinfecting for circo virus in virtual outer space somewhere. If the district is expecting this to go on for at least another 5 weeks then the teachers union and the board really need to be negotiating and renegotiating the definition of the “work day.” The expectations for teachers need to be addressed clearly instead of teachers just “keeping it together” at our expense. Buenas noches. tnimmo89 Oct 15, 2008 at 10:12 p.m. Suggest removal haha Coppertop Oct 15, 2008 at 9:27 p.m. Suggest removal 8 review vista online virus scanner weeks!?!?!? Replace all those PeeCee's with Macintosh/Apple products. IT would be sitting like the Maytag Repairman. JohnDoe Oct known virus attacks 15, 2008 at 9:22 p.m. Suggest removal Maybe it's time for Brandon to answer to the people. I am not saying anything is his fault...but obviously, Doug Bunton doesn't have the answers. Roadmaster Oct 15, 2008 at 9:12 p.m. Suggest removal IT Manager = Brandon Keirns fbcoach66 Oct 15, 2008 at 8:46 p.m. Suggest removal I'm drawing a blank, but it is Brandon can't be sure of the last name I want to say Masterson. He is the SON of an administrator. I believe she is a principal. *** Again, I would just like communication and questions answered. We as teachers don't know what is wrong, we don't know what will be available when. Will we EVER get our files back? *** I just brought home lesson prepping materials, deaths of virus scientists sadly because I can get on Skyward from home so I could enter grades, but didn't bring home gradebook. Sorry kids. Why can I get on at home but NOT at school? Isn't it just a secure website? *** I honestly think there needs to be a board investigation into this. Anything that dramatically effects ALL the students through ALL their teachers for over two months needs investigating not just by administrators on the way out but by our elected officials who aren't trying to protect people. JohnDoe Oct 15, 2008 at 8:37 p.m. Suggest removal Or do we have to file an open records request to find out? JohnDoe Oct 15, 2008 at 8:36 p.m. Suggest removal WHO IS the IT manager? imsmart2 Oct 15, 2008 at 8:25 p.m. Suggest removal Where is the new IT 'guru' in all this mess? Why is Doug Bunton addressing the School Board on a topic he obviously knows very little about? I agree that this problem is clearly outside the scope of that IT Dept! Was nothing ever identified as a potential problem or was it just ignored by the district administration as a problem for future staff members to deal with since they are all on their way out. (Former IT manager, Dir of Human Services, Dr. Evert ....) It seems to me that we either need to be hearing something from the IT manager and make him accountable for this mess OR allow Doug Bunton to take all the responsibility for problems that have to go waaaay further back than the six months the newbie has been on the job. Maybe that’s the reason we haven't seen the IT manager either he's too scared to show up or Doug Bunton's too scared to have him show up. I'd like some REAL answers from somebody that can give them! JohnDoe Oct 15, 2008 at 7:56 p.m. Suggest removal And on the flip side...there should be an under-achieving, over-paid, IT guru concerned about keeping his job because he didn't anticipate and out-smart an "under-disciplined, under-achieving (in everything but his computer) Janesville School District student" who has made him look incompetent and cost the taxpayers big bucks. billnewbie Oct 15, 2008 at 3:49 p.m. Suggest removal I suspect that somewhere in Janesville, some under-disciplined, under-achieving (in everything but his computer) Janesville School District student is very self-satisfied and endlessly amused while savoring every word generated by the Gazette and those that comment here. bh2875 Oct 15, 2008 at 3:17 p.m. Suggest removal It's also possible they thought they had backups, but never ran a DR test so they never knew they were bad. It's the old IT story of the company that dutifully made it's backups everyday. Then one day they needed to restore and discovered all their backup files were blank. A backup alone is not enough. You have to test the process from time to time. ammfrm Oct 15, 2008 at 3:09 p.m. Suggest removal fbcoach- WOW, if this is all caused because the backups were pitched??? then I'd say that person should not have a job anymore. ALL the backups pitched? We keep the current day offsite and the rest of the daily backups in a safe with our monthly backups kept offsite. So if they don't have at least some kind of system (or even if they do have this kind of system) and all backups were gone, then that person does not deserve to management of varicella zonter virus infections be in IT anymore. It's a shame that you have to spend your own time to do work that should be done while "at work". bh2875 Oct 15, 2008 at 3:04 p.m. Suggest removal Is it possible this is the result of having to continually cut the district budgets? I live in Madison (raised in Janesville) and I know every year they constantly try to decide what to cut from the budget to keep the taxes in line with the state law. This year we have a referendum on exceeding those state imposed limits and I suspect it will not pass. With this economy how could it? In any case, this really sounds like a huge fubar from the start. Why haven't they restored from a good back-up? I wonder if they've never run a disaster recovery drill before. Or are they putting too little importance on the problem? Something doesn't seem right about 5 weeks to recover from a problem of this magnitude. chicagoismyfriend Oct 15, 2008 at 2:56 p.m. Suggest removal Good luck if your able to get your teaching files back. fbcoach66 Oct 15, 2008 at 2:53 p.m. Suggest removal I'm sitting here at Craig HS. Thought I'd try to get on Skyward because 75% of the system is fixed. Couldn't get on, so I'll have to try to do my grades from home. Why can I enter my grades from home but not school? I'd love to know. ***** We also have a district server that contains ALL my lessons that I have developed over the years. I STILL cannot access it as I haven't been able to for the last 3 weeks. I have a personal back up of some, but not others. So, I'm remaking everything I teach for the last 3 weeks. Am I getting by? Yes. Is it as good as everything I have polished and perfected over the years? Absolute not, so kids suffer **** We have had almost ZERO communication from the ESC as to what is going on, when it will be fixed, what the problem is etc. etc. etc. Supposedly communication is one of the main Studer points, I guess they ignore that when it suits them. Am I frustrated? Darn right I am!! **** I would rather have them shut down the entire system for 2 days and say no computers at all until Monday but then we'll be back up full than go 5 weeks with this mess. What is going to happen when the quarter ends in 3 weeks and we still can't put in grades? **** Lunch room rumor (note I told you its a rumor) has it that they had NO backups of skyward or other vital programs because the new head of IT through them out during the transition. I sure hope Mr. Bunton or one vundo and virus removal of the school board members looks into this. **** To those who complain, I'll more than make up the 5 minutes of "clock time" I spent typing this re-creating Thursday and Friday's lessons (that the district lost)tonight on my own time at home. For the top anti virus record: NOTHING IS BETTER AT CRAIG HIGH SCHOOL AS OF WEDNESDAY!!!! joeflint Oct 15, 2008 at 2:36 p.m. Suggest removal Apparently they do not have any backups... it should take less than a day to completely wipe a server's hard drives and install from a known good backup. This is beyond ridiculous. gmretirednow Oct 15, 2008 at 1:49 p.m. Suggest removal As a person related to someone who has done computer work and sales and repair for 17 years, you are darn right that even 8 hours is too long to be down. Time to revamp the IT department I would say. Put in good virus programs and run them every day if necessary!! ammfrm Oct 15, 2008 at 1:42 p.m. Suggest removal I'm floored. I'm an IT person as well and I know how long it takes to redo a server. While I realize they have 80 to deal with, another 5 virus repair disk weeks??? I wonder if the board's lack of IT understanding is why they are so acceptable to an additional 5 weeks to fix the problem. As someone else mentioned, I can't afford any downtime and have to schedule downtime after 10pm or on Sundays. Heck- I had a lighting strike that took out the server, router, switch, cable modem, 3 pcs and 7 monitors- I had everything back up in 4 hours (with the exception of the damaged pcs). How so quick? because I was prepared and had plan in place for recovery. I have had a virus situation once before on a bigger network than the one I'm on now and we still had Dialer Virus Remover our 4 servers+ 200pcs cleared within a day. All because we had vario anti virus plans in place. I don't know how you can have 4 weeks with no resolution let alone another 5 weeks. jtmek Oct 15, 2008 at 1:16 p.m. Suggest removal Stottler wants school staff and parents to come to the school board instead of the press???? I don't think so. At least in the paper, the community gets to find out what incompetence is going on in the school district. Doug Bunton should have been reporting this fiasco to the school board all along. As for the IT staff, other than the newly hired top IT person all they can do is try and clean up the mess their boss caused when he came barreling in the district and started changing things up without taking the time to really study the school districts computer system. Would this be happening in any large corporate business? Of course not! janesvillean Oct 15, 2008 at 1:13 p.m. Suggest removal This is utterly preposterous. I've noted before that I've worked in corporate IT for Fortune 100 companies, and even eight days of continuous downtime would be impossible to contemplate. Eight weeks would put them out of business. I'm left speechless. peppermeister Oct 15, 2008 at 1:11 p.m. Suggest removal Anything over 1 day for that many servers is uncacceptable. When a virus hit the company I work for, with over 100 locations and servers globally, our system was disrupted for less than half a day. It does seem that the District's IT department is in over it's head, and the experts that they have brought in to help may be over theirs as well. This would NEVER happen in the business world. Maybe Mr. Studer can help out in IT, too! PabloGannador Oct 15, 2008 at 1:04 p.m. Suggest removal Why would the Government IT people be in a hurry to fix a problem that their jobs depend on? They have no incentive to fix anything timely or protect against these things. It is not like others here in mention where they are accountable to a profit center like a business is. Everything government does it does this way. This incident will likely give them a bigger budget and a larger staff to do nothing with. Contract it out to a firm who is responsible to a budget, let the free market and profit driven incentives fix this issue once and for all. tippiwoo Oct 15, 2008 at 12:54 p.m. Suggest removal If they had a good IT staff, not even great, GOOD, this would never happen. I work in IT and I can guarantee any of our systems are down longer than 24 hours, I've got some 'splaining to do..... twistedstorm Oct 15, 2008 at 12:46 p.m. Suggest removal http://digg.com/security/School_district... digg it the world should know about this tjncj Oct 15, 2008 at 12:40 p.m. Suggest removal Janesville66-Why did they write this story in the first place? Because it is news. If I was the reporter the question on loss of data would be one of the first questions I would ask. This issue had been swept under the rug until a teacher went to the Gazette. Again, I plan on going to the teachers and the administration with my questions, but why isn't the district or school board addressing the situation? If it didn't happen let us know. A good guess is they might not know if anything was lost. frusion Oct 15, 2008 at 12:36 p.m. Suggest removal andiwonderwhy....1 week? Where I work this would have never happened in the first place, but heads would roll at 1 hour of downtime. We can't even schedule a planned 1/2 hour of downtime in the middle of the day. Any planned downtime takes place on Sunday. rep_of_1 Oct 15, 2008 at 12:30 p.m. Suggest removal Seems to me if sensitive information is in breech than god forbid we keep files on paper it the stuff made from pulp. Anybody remember this stuff we call paper? It puts people to work in forestry and mills...or we spend money in IT and put people to work in jobs that have no resource produced just fear of security. Take the good with the bad I guess. simon Oct 15, 2008 at 12:28 p.m. Suggest removal There definitely needs to be a change in leadership and a new head of the IT department brought in--this guy is obviously in WAY over his head. andiwonderwhy Oct 15, 2008 at 12:26 p.m. Suggest removal First off: this should not have happened, so why did it and then prevent it from happening again. Secondly: Why is this taking so long to fix? If this was a business or corporation this would have been fixed probably within a week. If it is taking so long, maybe the should fire the current people and hire some of the students to fix it....they would probably have it fixed within a few days. twistedstorm Oct 15, 2008 at 12:16 p.m. Suggest removal They do not want to be forced to pay for Identity theft protection for it's students and staff. If they can somehow hide this under the rug. frusion Oct 15, 2008 at 12:15 p.m. Suggest removal as I said... other opinions and that is what confuses the layperson. :) twistedstorm Oct 15, 2008 at 12:11 p.m. Suggest removal I'd be worried that student and employee information has been explioted to sources that shouldn't of had access free download for virus protection What the district doesnt tell you is that if a virus gets in depending on the type of virus it can relay back information to other computers in the world for illegal purposes. rekab13 Oct 15, 2008 at 11:58 a.m. Suggest removal ame8736 - There is no product which is best for everyone, much the same as there is not a home security system that is best for all homes. To choose the correct program you must take several factors into consideration. 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Also, for your home, you should also be using both Spybot AND AdAware and you will be golden. Janesville66 Oct 15, 2008 at 11:49 a.m. Suggest removal Why does the gazette have to do the investagating, some comments just crack me up. if you want to know if personal info has been taken you would think you would call your self and find out if you were so concerned tjncj Oct 15, 2008 at 11:38 a.m. Suggest removal Sorry, 8 weeks to address this issue is about 7 1/2 weeks too long. How did it happen in the first place? I haven't heard of any super dog virus virus infecting any other businesses or schools in this time period. I would like to get some assurance from our school that there hasn't been a loss of personal data on the school districts students as well. More investigation is needed by the Gazette. StaceyU2 Oct 15, 2008 at 11:27 a.m. Suggest removal If any of you have any computer sense at all you will understand that it takes time to fix one of these issues, (not to mention that the JSD has 80 of them).. even the best Security software available has FLAWS. Not everything is 100% fool proof... If they would not just rely on PC's and broaden their OS Platforms, they could reduce (not eliminate) virus attacks. I use to be a RELIGIOUS PC user, but after having to rebuild my home network several times.. I went out (after some research) and Bought an MACINTOSH, did it solve my problems??? almost all of them ,, The only thing I have issues with "Apple" programs are ...not enough of them,, My daughters have my old PC's and I still have to use them occasionally to do some programs... WITH ADDED SECURITY programs.. (by the way, my MAC has yet to be infected) tjncj Oct 15, 2008 at 11:15 a.m. Suggest removal Actually I am contacting the teachers. 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Of course that is what you get when pay so little. simon Oct 15, 2008 at 10:09 a.m. Suggest removal Don't free virus download Gala Virus Removal believe the district when it says this is NOT affecting classes. That is NOT true! What about computer classes that rely on files on the network? The grades are absolutely NOT up to date because my kids teachers do not want to put in grades at home since they have not been assured they won't get the virus there. The adminstration has not been forthcoming with information until the teacher at Craig finally spoke up. Now, Ms. Stottler doesn't like the way the board handled Evert's retirement...well, that's what the members of each school have felt for a long time. The people that should know don't or aren't involved in decision or updates. badgerboy Oct Cow Pox Virus 15, 2008 at 9:50 a.m. Suggest removal Has the question been asked if the virus was accidentally introduced to their system, or was it maliciously introduced? tjncj Oct 15, 2008 at 9:28 a.m. Suggest removal So are the grades in the system that parents have access to updated and correct? How about mid-term grades mailedout recently? I have the feeling they may not reflect current status if teachers are waiting to input them in the computer system. Can someone address these questions? ame8736 Oct 15, 2008 at 9:22 a.m. Suggest removal If a virus can knock out this big of a computer system what hope ebola virus and namesake wiki does the general public have in not getting a virus. And which virus one step search virus protection is the best one? We have heard that McAee is best. others say Norton. 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Dr Martin Schweiger, consultant in communicable dbot virus disease control at West Yorkshire Health Protection decrypter virus Unit, said: "We know that this sort of viral gastroenteritis is around in the community in West Yorkshire at the moment. "Many people do not realise how easily it is spread, and therefore just how important it is for infected people and those looking after them to follow good hygiene measures, including thorough hand-washing, particularly after visiting the toilet." Surfaces which may have been contaminated during illness should be disinfected, he said, and people with symptoms should stay at home. Dr Schweiger added: "Norovirus can affect people of all ages." The full article contains Lyme Desaese Virus 205 words and appears in n/a newspaper. 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