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I try to keep my husband's usual words of wisdom in mind "this is just another chapter in life, and pretty soon I'll be in another chapter". My mother died realtively early of breast cancer, so I consider myself lucky to be growing old enough to go through this, and hopefully come out on the other side. I hope to be an eccentric old lady, I'm already an eccentric middle-aged one! [Betsy] |
I've had overheating issues
all my life -- I guess in some ways life for me has been one 49-year
perimenopause. Let me offer some practical suggestions:
1. Buy some piece of clothing through the mail. Doesn't much matter what it is -- your name will get traded around and eventually you'll get on the lists of sellers of lovely loose natural fiber stuff. I live in Philadelphia and I see a lot of business women in outfits that are put together around loose, flowing slacks and tunics. Long skirts are popular, too, and these can be worn with knee-highs instead of pantyhose. Both looks work well with low-heeled shoes, and there are more and more in the stores with 1" or 1-1/2" heels. I work in a university library so I can get away with a decidedly eccentric look, but I see many women in other industries who are obviously in positions of some power and who are equally obviously dressing with comfort in mind as well as fashion. These kinds of clothing are sometimes difficult to find in the malls, but they proliferate in the better mail order catalogs. (And in some of the cheap ones, too...) 2. Find yourself a fan. I mean the old fashioned flip-it-open-and-bat-your-eyes kind. Carry it in your purse and whip it out when the going gets hot. I used to feel pretty self-conscious when I did it, but now I just do it without thinking. If you're fanning your face, for some reason your whole self feels cooler. 3. Carry hankies and/or kleenex so that you can dab away the sweat on your upper lip and chin. 4. Exercise enough to sweat as often as you can. Exercise makes you feel better anyhow, and if you exercise till you sweat you get used to feeling sweaty and it's not as bad when you overheat. 5. Rediscover the undershirt and/or tee shirt. More clothing is better when you sweat in the sense that you don't look as disheveled. The undershirt catches a lot of the perspiration so you don't have big dark patches under your arms, or dark half-moons under your breasts, etc. 6. Similarly, consider wearing cotton scarves or other easily washable scarves at your neckline under your jackets. It minimizes the number of sweat stains, especially, on light-colored jackets. 7. When you start to heat up, drink something cool. In a few minutes, it really helps me, even though I may start sweating more at first. 8. Try losing weight. Fat is a diabolically good insulator (think of seals, Inuits, and polar bears), plus you throw off more heat just moving the extra bulk around. (This may not apply to you, but it surely does to me.) It sounds as though you're having a worse time of this than many of us. I hope a few of these suggestions actually turn out to be helpful. Regards, lblanch000 |
Deep breathing was also
found to help hot flashes. Think of it as a way of releasing a lot of internal
body heat through the exhaling breath, like a crocodile does to keep the
heat down. Seems to help take the edge off of them when they start.
J |
As I said, your symptoms
sound a lot worse than mine, so my tactics may not work for you. But I
do get occasional night sweats bad enough to make me leap out of bed wishing
I could take off my *skin,* not to mention my night-clothes, even now that
the weather has cooled off.
None of this will be new to anyone here, I suspect, but here's *my* strategy: I sleep with the heat *off* in my bedroom, no matter how cold the weather, and the window open, even if just a crack, year-round. Having moving air in the room seems essential. I've switched to all cotton bedding, and have ditched my old synthetic-blend blankets and comforter in favor of the lightweight, old-fashioned quilts my mother made for me. I keep three or four quilts on the bed so I can pull them on or off, depending ... I sleep in light cotton nightgowns or cotton T-shirts (cooler and less sticky than sleeping nude), and I keep a clean spare folded on the chair next to the bed, along with a spare pillowcase. If I wake up drenched, I get out of bed, throw back the covers to air out the sheets, peel off the wet garment and stand by the window doing controlled, deep breathing until I cool off. If I'm really sweltering, I run cool water over the insides of my wrists. Once I'm cooled down, I change the pillowcase, put on the fresh nightie and go back to bed. I've got this down to such a routine that some mornings I can't remember waking up, except for the evidence of the damp T-shirt on the floor by my bed. If I'm so miserable that I can't get back to sleep -- or if I'm just having one of those insomniac nights -- I get up, throw on a robe, and go sit in my comfy armchair with a cat and a book, or sometimes just a cat. I *don't* lie in bed tossing and turning, because I think it's important for me to be able to think of bed as a place of comfort and rest, not a battleground. By day, I dress in loose layers, with a cotton undershirt and big, old-lady cotton underpants. I keep cornstarch-based baby powder in my desk at work. I've adopted lblanch000's habit of keeping a paper fan with me everywhere I go. I practice deep breathing. I drink quarts and quarts of water. I refuse to wear panty-hose any more (talk about heat traps!). I try to keep my caffeine intake down, but I'm not very good at that part -- I really *love* coffee, and part of what I love about it is the caffeine buzz. Still, on days when I find myself flashing, I steer away from it. This may not work for you. Heck, there may come a time when it doesn't work for *me* any more. But I do believe it's possible for those of us who weren't thrust into meno by surgery to develop "comfort strategies" that may offer as much relief as medication, without any of the potential negative consequences. Regards, --Pat Kight |
Here is what worked
for me as basically a "well woman" in meno with no history of female problems,
surgeries or prior hormone medications. Symptoms vary greatly from
woman to woman.
I had hot flashes on and off episodically for about 6 years prior to my periods stopping and then really intense non-stop on the hour ones for about 9 months after my period stopped at age 52. I still get them but they are very few and fairly specific to certain situations. But prior to my period stopping, they would be a problem for a few months and then not at all for a few months. But at their worst, they were never as bad as after my period stopped, But then I had less stress going on then too. I found them very stress related and they made me look at what else was going on in my life that was causing the stress. When I changed thinking patterns, let go of some out of date "little girl" ways of handling situations, I found I got far less, plus cleaning up other stress situations made a major impact, or maybe it was coincidental. But I don't think so for me. However, what I found with the hot flashes was that I felt this stress as an -external- reaction now, (the flushing) rather than an internal one where I would usually feel it grip and twist in my heart or gut. So now I see hot flashes as a way of "flushing" out stress chemicals. My speculation only. But tears do the same thing. For me, I sense these flushes, and the more the better, are in fact a good thing. Crazy, huh? I had to observe when and why I was having the flashes for a long time to see the pattern of the stress connection. Now I value them greatly because I see them as a mental/emotional watchdog. Additionally, getting overheated, in hot weather, or wearing non-natural fiber clothes didn't help either. No more turtlenecks during that time. I don't drink coffee or tea or use any other stimulants, OTC drugs or nutritional supplements. These all may have an effect on the flashes. I discovered on my own that deep breathing helped to break the intensity of a flash, not cure it, but definitely make it less of an event. This was later actually confirmed by research at Wayne State so it is worth a try. I would just take 10 deep breaths at the first sign one was coming on and it would break it usually. Not always, but it would always be less than the ones that I had when I did not deep breathe. It started making me feel I had some control over them and that was nice. I figured the deep breaths helped to reduce the temperature like a dog panting on a hot day as well as expel stress chemicals. You know how the old wives tale says to take 10 deep breaths. Good advice, I guess. I found them mainly to be upper body flashes, and I never had them at night. They would last over 2 minutes and when they were really bad they would be very drippy. In the summer, the flush could just pour for a few minutes and I wiped up with tissues. Always carried them with me. But that also was when I was exercising ahead of them and then had a momentary stress situation. But even at their worst, I figured the 3 minutes an hour times 10 hours a day max. was still only 30 minutes out of my life each day having to deal with them. So I chose to just let them happen rather than put a foreign drug into my system 24 hours a day to control them. 30 minutes of wacko stuff versus 24 hours of unknown drugs. But that was my experience and we are just talking hot flashes here, not other meno "symptoms" which can affect other women far more than just 30 minutes a day. But the best thing about just letting hot flashes happen is that they must burn up a huge amount of calories. One of their hidden benefits? Pass the cookies. Women have been having them for 3 millions years and on their own, they are at worst inconvenient and disruptive for a short duration, just like our periods were. We adapted around out periods and they created a lot of grief for awhile. So is true for hot flashes....for some of us . My own personal experience may not have any application to your life or medical history. But you asked about them and this was my experience. My advice: Try deep breathing and become aware and -change- the stress patterns of your life. Can't hurt to try it for a while and it is free and has no side effects and doesn't require going back to the doctor to monitor for dangerous complications. Some women, especially by surgical necessity must take drugs and they are life savers for them. But if you do not have to take them, you may want to keep exploring the non-drug alternatives and options for wellness as your body naturally adapts to its post menopausal state. Keep saying, this too will pass! It does. There is an end to menopause for some of us. Good luck. Let us know what you find that works for you and your own unique health and life style history. There is a huge variation in how we all experience menopause. No one size fits all, at all. This group will teach you that. Joan L. |
In
addition to hand-held fans, there's a new product called a "kooldana" that
I find is quite effective. It's just a scarf, with a pocket for a flexible
ice bag in it. You freezer the ice bag-it's like a blue ice and you get
two with the scarf. It stays very cold for about an hour and a half, just
long enough to freeze the other ice bag. I find it especially useful for
doing things like cutting the grass or other outside chores in the heat
when a hot flash on top of the already deadly heat of a Washington DC summer
is too much to bear. It also seems to work well (for me at least) to prevent
the regular flash that wakes me up at 11:45 PM every night. I got mine
at BJ's Warehouse Club, but I've seen them advertised in the coupon envelopes
that Carole Wright and such send out. Also in Sunday Parade magazine insert.
About $9.00 or so. And for the record, I don't sell them and don't know
anything about the company that does.
vl-hb001 If you can sew a straight seam, you can make these. The hydrogel crystals may run $6-$10 a jar at a garden supply store (but see below for another, cheaper source), but you use so little of them that you could make a *bunch* of these -- or share out the crystals with other meno friends. Use scrap fabric and the cost goes down to pennies per cooler. --Pat Kight
----------- The "active ingredients" in these neck coolers are hydrogel crystals, sold at many garden supply stores to retain water in house plants and gardens. When soaked with water, they swell up to many, many times their original size and look rather like cubes of clear Jell-O. Warning: A very little goes a long way. Before you fill the neck cooler, soak a teaspoon or so of the crystals in water for a few hours and see how big they get! Overfilling, or oversoaking the completed cooler may cause the crystals to burst through the seams or fabric; soaking for 15 minutes or so should be plenty. The crystals will eventually dry out, but can be re-soaked again and again. I haven't priced the crystals lately, but there's a Web site at http://www.jmjent.net/magicgems/ that will send you a "free sample" for $2 (U.S.) shipping and handling -- they say it's enough to fill a gallon plant container, when hydrated -- that should be more than enough to make several neck coolers! Instructions for making the coolers: For a neck cooler, cut a piece of fabric about 20 inches long by three inches wide. Fold in half, right sides inward, and sew it into a tube, then sew across one end to close the tube. Turn it right-side out, and pour about 1/4 teaspoon inside -- this doesn't sound like much, but it is! Then tuck in the open end and hand- or machine-stitch it securely closed. Soak in water until the crystals swell to fill the tube. Refrigerate if you like. Drape across the back of your neck or forehead on hot days -- or when those hot flashes hit! For a head-scarf cooler,
use a regular cotton bandanna, 22 inches square. Fold in half diagonally
and mark off four rectangles
Sew the rectangles along three sides, then put a scant 1/4 teaspoon of crystals in each tube (more like 1/8th teaspoon). Sew the fourth side of the tubes shut, soak in water and store in the fridge. This makes a wonderfully cooling headscarf! |
Mine got worse for a while post meno, definitely got worse on soy milk and now are starting to fade away 2 years post meno. |
As for continued flashing
(assuming it is relatively mild) I don't see it as a real physical concern.
I'm so used to it I barely notice anymore - it's just something that happens
like, say, breathing faster with exertion. If it is seen as somehow shameful
however - an indication of femaleness or aging or whatever is taboo
in a particular generation or culture then it would certainly be stressful.
This in itself would likely exacerbate the physical aspects I think.
Pat |
Just thought I would post
this in case anyone may want to give it a try. I have taken Feverfew for
9 months now for Migraines and noticed that my hot flashes (which I was
getting about every 2 hours for 15-20 min. at a time) went away completely.
I ran out of Feverfew a week ago; and since I am trying different meds
for my Migraines, I didn't bother to get more.
Big mistake! My hot flashes are back just as bad as before. It doesn't do much for the migraines, but I will continue for the hot flashes and night sweats. |
Carry hankies, dress in
layers, use less make-up [or none-sometimes it tends to run ;>],
drink cold drinks, cut down caffeine, flow with it....
I suffered terribly with hot flashes [many meno symptoms, for that matter] when I didn't understand what was happening. I was many years post-surgery when a 'well intentioned MD' prescribed _RT. within weeks I started running through the whole list of symptoms --I sure wish I'd had the list then ;> When my DC suggested hormone imbalance as a reason for my symptoms I found it easier to deal with them. I eliminated the added hormones and still had symptoms for many months afterwards. Of course, I let another 'well intentioned ND' sell me on the fear of heart disease and osteo and the 'new and wonderful specifically blended hormones' last summer and again started having 'heat waves'. Actually I don't mind them too much, my feet and hands freeze a lot and the wave will keep me warm for hours. I quit the pills and kept the symptoms. Just how long could one expect 'hormone imbalance' to take to adjust to normal? ;> This too will pass.... Deb |
I'm new here, so forgive me if this has been covered a zillion times. I had to go off estrogen recently, and although I've been menopausal for 9 years am back to having hot flashes. Is there any natural safe remedy? ...snip...Natural vitamin E (d-alpha Tocopherol) helps some women with hot flashes, especially in the higher doses such as 800 IU. Be very careful with it, though, as some women have reported unpleasant side effects from taking it. ...snip... Even 400 mgs of Vitamin E can cause debilitating side effects in some. Watch out for:
-crashing fatigue
It may take several months of Vit E use to accumulate enough of an overdose
to start experiencing these symptoms. Caution with Vit E in any amount.
However Menopause on Line report A double-blind, placebo-controlled study of vitamin E therapy for hotflashes in breast cancer survivors is in. The study used 800 IU a day for 4 weeks. The results showed that vitamin E reduced hot flashes by 25% and the placebo reduced hot flashes by 22%. Vitamin E was only 3% more effective than placebo. Not very encouraging. |
Another thing that really helps me and does not have unpleasant side effects is evening primrose oil (gammalinoleic acid). It is very common - lots of different companies market it. I take only about half the recommended dosage and have no more hot flashes, as I did when I had to stop taking HRT. |
http://www.medscape.com/PMSI/EMJ/1995/v02.n03/em2304.hunter/em2304.hunter.html
A Treatment Option For Menopausal Hot Flushes: Cognitive Relaxation Therapy Author: Myra S. Hunter, Guy's Hospital There is some evidence, that psychological interventions which include some form of relaxation, can reduce the frequency of hot flushes. In a series of recent studies based at Guy's Medical School we investigated the feasibility and effectiveness of offering an alternative psychological treatment for women reporting menopausal hot flushes. |
Extract from http://www.timesofindia.com/300300/30hlth4.htm
Anti-depressants may ease hot flashes TAMPA (Fla): Anti-depressants may also help ease the misery of hot flashes, according to a small study that suggests Paxil relieves the effects of estrogen withdrawal in women being treated for breast cancer. |
Also see commentary about the dubious efficacy of various drugs and supplements. In general, any improvement is very little more than the effect of placebo. This includes various formulations of (or containing) estrogen, soy, and phytoestrogens (particularly in "isoflavones supplement" form as opposed to food.) The problem is that hot flashes are so variable and episodic anyway that even doing nothing at all will result in them going away for the vast majority of women, only to mysterious return - or not ;-) later. |
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