Email to Rick RE:M14


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Posted by jimmyjames on March 22, 1999 at 17:59:24 {MWOuU2yvobPRY}:

The following email was sent to Rick concerning Moderator 14. Let's hope something comes of it.




Rick,

This email is an appeal to you to
investigate the activities of Moderator 14 and
reconsider his/her position as Moderator, as per your
instructions in href="132968.html">this post of yours.

Evidently, M14 has
had a notoriety for being biased and irresponsible since
long before I came onto the board. A lot of complaints
about him have appeared on the board, especially in the
last few weeks. He seems to drop in in sudden spurts,
where he deletes tons of messages and then disappears
for a while. Is this responsible Moderating?

I'll
start with one of my posts. href="ftp://www.hourglass2.org/pub/user/h2o/wwwboard/mes
sages/deleted/133193.deleted.m14.html">This post
of
mine was deleted by M14. Yet it doesn't violate the FPP in
any way.

  • There is no ridicule to any one for
    being one of Jehovah's Witnesses. The remark is about
    the history of the WBTS.
  • No promotion of
    trinitarian or atheistic doctrine
  • No obscene
    language
  • No mocking of God or taking his name in
    vain
  • No copyright violations
  • It
    certainly didn't exceed the posting size
    limit
  • It wasn't off-topic by even the greatest
    stretch of the imagination
  • So, why was this
    post deleted? In thinking about it, the only possible
    explanation I can think of is that it was removed
    because it expressed an opinion against the WBTS. If
    this is the case, why are many more posts with the same
    type of content still on the board? Indeed, why is
    your post that was critical of the Society still
    on the board? Is there any explanation for this? href="ftp://www.hourglass2.org/pub/user/h2o/wwwboard/mes
    sages/deleted/134060.deleted.m14.html">Here's a similar
    deletion.

    Here
    are a few posts that were deleted, evidently, simply
    because an opinion was expressed concerning Moderator
    14:

    href="ftp://www.hourglass2.org/pub/user/h2o/wwwboard/mes
    sages/deleted/133283.deleted.m14.html">Post 1

    href="ftp://www.hourglass2.org/pub/user/h2o/wwwboard/mes
    sages/deleted/133284.deleted.m14.html">Post 2

    Is
    expressing an opinion on Moderator performance against
    the FPP? I don't see any violations. Going through the
    items in the list after my post above, I don't see how
    these posts could have been construed as violations of
    the FPP. Isn't it obvious that M14 removed these posts
    for a reason other than the FPP? What is that
    reason?

    Here are a couple of M14 deletions that are
    particularly telling:

    href="ftp://www.hourglass2.org/pub/user/h2o/wwwboard/mes
    sages/deleted/133438.deleted.m14.html">133438

    href="ftp://www.hourglass2.org/pub/user/h2o/wwwboard/mes
    sages/deleted/133439.deleted.m14.html">133439

    href="ftp://www.hourglass2.org/pub/user/h2o/wwwboard/mes
    sages/deleted/133448.deleted.m14.html">133448

    What
    does this tell you, Rick? Do any of these
    violate the FPP? Isn't M14 violating the FPP himself by
    cutting off "open" discussion?

    M14 is also in the
    habit of deleting an entire thread, no matter how
    long, simply because one post in it seemed to violate
    the FPP. This was taken to the extreme in the thread, "Inexplicable". Do any of the following posts in that thread seem to you to violate the FPP?

  • 133932
  • 133939
  • 133940 (Note: In this post Norm actually concedes that he may need to "tone down" some of his posts. Is that seriously considered a violation of the FPP?)
  • 133947
  • 133946
  • And on and on...

    The only post in that thread that seems to even come close to violating the FPP is Norm's original post. On the other hand, does it violate the FPP? As Jan (who's post was also deleted by the way) pointed out, the criticism, altough heavy, was directed at the system, not individual Witnesses. Excessive quoting? Perhaps. But I challenge M14 to demonstrate it since Norm had many comments sandwiched in between the quotes. This isn't responsible moderating- it's an out-of-control massacre of posts that come no where near violating the FPP.

    Other posts seem to have been deleted by random. Here are a few, check them out:

  • 134020
  • 134023
  • 133558
  • 133675
  • 133286
  • Is there an explanation for any of these deletions? It is possible that some of these were duplicates, but I challenge M14 to demonstrate each one. Incredibly, all of these deletions took place within the last week or so.

    Shouldn't this Moderator be at least required to explain these deletions and demonstrate how they violated the FPP? If they indeed violated it, it should be a simple task for him/her. On the other hand, if he cannot demonstrate it, how can he be found as anything but a biased moderator? Please help Rick.

    jimmyjames

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