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SHANTANU GUHA RAY
When Bharat Ratna Dr Avul Pakir Jainulabdeen Abdul Kalam announced his decision last week to quit as principal scientific advisor to the government, an extraordinary, 43-year-long career ended. Associated with nearly every Indian technological milestone—the first rocket launch vehicle, the first Indian satellite, the first strategic missile and, of course, the Indian nuclear programme—Dr Kalam has spent the past few years developing the concept of India Millennium Missions (IMM) 2020—a blueprint for transforming India into a developed nation. Dr Kalam calls it "the second vision of the nation". Of course, he is not receding into total retirement. He'll work as ISRO's distinguished professor and says he wants to focus on the children of India. Excerpts from an interview with Shantanu Guha Ray:

Can India become a dominant world player?
We need integrated action in five major areas. One, agriculture and food processing: we have to set a target of 360 million tonnes of food and agricultural production. Two, reliable and quality electricity supply for all. Three, education and healthcare. Four, information technology, which can also be used to promote education in remote areas. Five, strategic sectors: nuclear, space and defence technology. These five areas are inter-related and culminate in the 30 India 2020 missions. A partnership between R&D, industry and the community as a whole and the government departments will be essential to accomplish the vision.

Don't you feel India's nuclear programme has given the arms race a fillip?
What would you expect us to do? Be sandwiched between two nuclear powers—Pakistan and China—and do tapasya? For 3,000 years, we have been invaded time and again because of one simple reason: we had virtually no resistance to offer to the invaders. This needs to change, right? If our neighbours have nukes, we must have them too. Otherwise, it weakens our position. We've not created these bombs for decoration.

Why do we see such anti-Indian feelings among our neighbours?
This has happened because India hasn't developed what is known globally as a win-win situation. Look at China and all its antics. It violates trade norms, steals arms secrets from the West and yet, Washington's comfort-level with Beijing is high. This is because of the economics which dominates global politics. India must learn from such examples. We are a developed nation compared to our neighbours. So, we need to work out a situation where the Indian government markets its brand in an aggressive manner across the borders while also giving space to neighbours to have their say in our markets. But has that happened? Interaction between India and its neighbours has touched an abysmal low. It needs to improve. Our neighbours need to understand our strengths and growth areas. They should see where they can contribute. Only then will this distrust subside. People, then, won't talk terrorism, only business.

You dream of India being on par with the G-8 nations. Isn't that a long shot?
Economic growth comes from the integrated growth of technology, infrastructure, education and, above all, the urge to market our products. Developed countries, to keep their status intact, market their products to countries of different ideologies. For example, the US, in the case of China, has sacrificed the Missile Technology Control Regime and certain aspects of the NPT.In India, we should outgrow our historical-religious focus for economic development.The nation has to market Indian products which have brand value. It should also share its civilisational qualities for world peace. G-8 leaders visit other countries to market their equipment and systems with nicely-packaged political agendas. Recently, I visited Tripura, Assam and Jharkhand. All these states have abundant natural and human resources. There should be integrated development projects in mission-mode, unique for a particular state and funded in an integrated way.

You have said you now want to work with children. Why this new interest?
In my career of 43 years, I've changed my area of work almost every 10 years. Change brings new thoughts, new thoughts lead to innovative actions. From August 2001, I have been visiting many states. I have addressed about 15,000 students, mostly in high schools. I shared their imaginations. I have found that I can communicate well with them. I think I can ignite in their minds a love for science and the nation's mission: a developed India.

  Dr A.P.J. Abdul Kalam

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