You’ve recently christened your band the Endless Sea? Why’s that?
I like what it implies. The Endless Sea of musical possibilities that awaits
us as a band. It’s a beautiful image too. I love the feeling of standing
alone looking out to sea – like looking at the stars – it puts everything
in perspective. Iggy Pop recorded a song called “The Endless Sea”, I remember
hearing it for the first time on the Dogs in Space soundtrack when
I was a wean, although I always thought he was saying “The Embassy” like
he was a spy.
What impact have they had on the songs since the EP was recorded? Are
they the exact same band that recorded the EP, or slightly different? How
have the songs changed since you’ve been on the road?
The Endless Sea are the same band that played on the Permanent Marker EP.
I also invited a lot of guests in because I wanted to have as much fun as possible,
experiment and learn. I think as a band we are starting to develop a sound.
One that has come from playing together in this line up for a solid year now.
There is a synchronicity developing which leaves a lot more room for experimentation.
I think we get better with every show we play and I think the upcoming tour
will pull our sound even closer.
Speaking of which, you’re about to hit the road with Mia Dyson, who plays
lap steel on “Longing Song”. How did you meet her? You’ve got very divergent
styles – she’s far more bluesy, but do you think you go together well?
Will she be playing as part of your band on the tour for that song?
I gave Mia a call about three years ago after seeing her play a show in
Brunswick. She is an exceptional guitarist and has a powerful, distinctive
voice. I was
really impressed that someone so young was so in touch with the soul of music.
I don’t see music as styles. Good music to me can be any style. I just like
good music. Mia and I have been supporting each other over the years so it
felt natural to head out on tour together. It has been lucky timing that we
have both had releases out around the same time. Michael Hubbard our guitarist
plays lapsteel and dobro so he will be taking care of those duties. I will
be moonlighting as a back up singer in Mia’s band for the tour so I better
start practicing my best Renee Geyer vocal…
New Zealand songstress Bic Runga also guests on the single, “Rain”. How
did you come to know her?
I heard her second album Beautiful Collision which she produced. She
ended up winning producer of the year at the NZ music awards for that album.
Pretty tasty for a then 27 year old! Bic is a huge talent, I thought it would
be great to work with her. I sent her a demo and she called to say she was
interested so when she was in Melbourne touring her album we hooked up and
did some work in the studio. I like working with other young women in the
studio. There’s a cool camaraderie to it and it gives you the opportunity
to watch your peers in action!
Why’d you choose “State Trooper” to cover from Nebraska? Was it
something about the song in particular? Are you a big fan of ‘the Boss’ as
well, or simply the intimate ‘Bruce Springsteen’ of Nebraska and Devils & Dust?
I like a good story in a song. Songs like Leonard Cohen’s “Famous Blue Raincoat”,
Laura Veirs’ “Enraptured” and Bruce’s “State Trooper” are pedigree examples
of telling a story that is so riveting it hurts to listen. Gillian Welch,
Nick Cave and Will Oldham are also fine purveyors of desperate, intimate
stories.
How have you found that there are misconceived notions about what it is
to be a female singer-songwriter in the Australian music scene? Have you
had advice from anyone in particular, from Renee Geyer to Kasey Chambers
to Mia Dyson?
No advice as far as pertaining to being a woman in this industry. It feels
like there are a lot of excellent female singer-songwriters receiving the
good press they deserve right now. It isn’t going to stop either, pretty
soon the media will have accepted that there are just as many female singer-songwriters
as there are male singer-songwriters. What the artist has to say, as opposed
to their gender, is what will always bring music lovers to shows.
What’s next for you? Do you plan to record a debut album soon?
Next up is a full-length album which we are adding the finishing touches
to as we speak. We finish the last song on the album next week with Paul
McKercher
so I guess that answers the next question – I would work with Paul McKercher
again! We embraced Paul and I think he has helped us hone our sound. He
has been a silent director and I have learnt so much from watching him
in the
studio. He really does have golden lobes.
If so, who with? Would you like to work with Paul McKercher again? What
did you learn from recording the EP? Do you have enough songs for an album;
are you prolific or do you exert a tight quality control on yourself?
I have learnt to trust my instincts a lot more. No-one knows my music better
than I do. That’s been a good exercise in trust. I am not highly prolific,
this may change but either way, it’s not worth worrying about. I always find
when I finish a song a new one is waiting in the wings to be dressed, given
some good lines and sent onto stage to move some people.
Jen Cloher’s Permanent Marker EP is out now. As alluded to above,
she’s currently on the road with Mia Dyson. Dates:
Friday 17th June - The Prince of Wales - Melb
Saturday 18th June - Karova - Ballarat
Thursday 23rd June - The Clarendon - Katoomba
Friday 24th June - The Annandale - Sydney
Saturday 25th June - The Heritage - Bulli
Sunday 26th June - The Milton Theatre - Batemans Bay
Friday 1st July - The Govenor Hindmarsh - Adelaide
Saturday 2nd July - Whalers - Warnambool
Thursday 7 July - The National Hotel - Geelong
Friday 8 July - Ruby’s Lounge - Belgrave
Thursday 14th July - Joes Waterhole - Eumundi
Friday 15th July - Sound Lounge - Goldcoast
Saturday 16th July - The Zoo - Brisbane