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| Most of these writings on this subject were installments on message boards where homosexuality was questioned. These are a few of my answers. I will add to these as time wears on, there may be some repeats in concepts and thoughts, but then there is a general repeat in the basic questions of homosexuality. |
| My Personal Belief: I consider myself to be a Christian - A follower of Christ. That is in the broadest of terms because my personal beliefs when it comes to region are not confined to one narrow path. My beliefs and my spirituality is a product of several periods of religion seeking, religious teachings and practice. I temper what the Bible Says or what any Holy Scripture says against my personal life experiences. I believe that God loves me, cherishes me as the unique individual He created me to be. I also believe that I am saved by the Grace of Christ's Salvation to all men on earth. I believe that my life is a series of continual blessings and I also believe that my relationship with a man is blessed and ok in the eyes of God. If anything I can hold up my relationship, without fights and various problems in it (For this relationship is the calmest, most peaceful one that I have ever known) and show it as proof that it is right and proper and blessed in every way. Compared to the majority of straight relationships that I have witnessed I can only assume that by the very nature of peace in my home that the important things, Love, honor mutual respect, commitment to the union of two souls is what is important, not the genders of the two involved. I believe that sex is alright if it is used within the confines of love, intimate sharing, compassion and respect to the people involved. I personally view sex as the icing on the cake of relationship, the added sweetness that comes with love, commitment, respect, honor and loyalty with an over all desire to be one with another. I personally do not see what gender has to do with it, or the toys and extra things people attach to the acts of sex. If both parties are adults and agree to the act and can enjoy it, then it is good. If they are more than two, fine - As long as they all want it, all can accept it and have no issues - fine - go ahead, have your fun. I note that the Condemnations of sexual acts are nearly always the condemnation of acts which cause harm, or break the spirit of love, honor and compassion. We must look at the intent behind the act to know if it is good or not. The act itself is meaningless, it is mechanical and can be construed to be anything. It is the intent, the reasons and the way the person is feeling when they do it that determines if it is wrong or not. Being gay is far more than just an act of sex. Sex is only a small part of the issue, to reduce it to an act of sex strips away the human behind the act, it takes from the person who is gay their profound sense of being, their humanity and their heart, soul and mind. It is easy to reduce the argument to an act of sex, this takes the other nebulous aspects of homosexuality out of the picture and makes for stronger arguments against homosexuality. And this is what the opposed view wants, a clear and singular point in which to oppose homosexuality and call it wrong. When addressing the issue we must see the whole person, we must see the love, desire to pair off and bind with another, the need for commitment, union and security and comfort that all individuals seek for in their lives. Humans are naturally attracted to the notion of union with another. Take that out of the picture and all sex is, by its virtue, wrong. Gay and God: Using the Holy Bible I can show reasonably that homosexuality as it is done in today's society is not the issue. I can also demonstrate that Sodom's Sin was not homosexuality. I can, through the understanding of culture, history and the greater spirit of the Bible demonstrate that today's concept of homosexuality and what homosexuals are all about, is not what the bible condemns. I can even show evidence that God blesses monogamous, loving, committed homosexual relationships. Based on a couple of bible stories and also in the way my life has been before and after meeting the "perfect" man. It comes down to interpretation and placing the bible against personal experience. However the subject is long winded and would require many pages. Thus I will offer the sites which go in depth on the matter. Indeed there are more sites than this which demonstrate that the Bible is not against homosexuality. The sites: http://gaychristians.org/ http://www.truluck.com/ http://www.godlovesfags.com/bible/interpretation.html http://www.religioustolerance.org/hom_bibl.htm There are a good number of knowledgeable Bible Scholars who contend that homosexuality is not the issue. To touch lightly on the subject, for there are many who will not go to those sites, experience has demonstrated the reluctance of many who refuse to even entertain the possibility of another side to the argument. It is Sex for the sake of sex alone which is condemned in the bible - The practice of prostitution in Temples (Which took place a lot in neighboring countries to Israel) was an issue. But it is not your "normal" gay male who seeks a one to one relationship of love, as most gay men do. Sex, abused and misused and outside of loving relationships is condemned hundreds of times in the bible, not once was love and caring condemned by the bible. The understanding of homosexuality has changed as our civilization has progressed. We no longer practice temple prostitution, we no longer send off a boy to an older male for learning in the art of sex (Greek and Roman pedophilia), we do not use male anal sex as a means to strip a man of his honor and manhood. These practices are abhorrent to the modern sensibilities of the majority, gay and straight. These things were practiced by the "heathens" around Israel in the days the bible was written, thus the Israelites had a good reason to fear and loath homosexual acts. Our understanding of the Bible is handed to us through centuries of interpretation. Many people will spout off what the bible says while never having opened up the book itself. The bible us used to condemn and promote a "popular" opinion on any number of things, most often that opinion is based upon one interpretation and is spread around and handed off as Doctrine with the added incentive to not question it. That is a dangerous way to approach the subject of the bible. Dangerous and plain wrong. Due to the issues, due to what people said, it was the greatest stumbling block in my life, this reconciliation of God and Homosexuality. It kept me from God for a long while because of what men said the bible said. For a look at the extreme case, check out Westboro Baptist Church - Godhatesfags.com www.godhatesfags.com/ This kind of mentality still exists, but it has been tempered and reasoned and looks on the surface to be anything but hatred of the homosexual. There are those out there who tell the homosexual being Gay is ok, but having a gay relationship is a sin. This theory is fine on the surface, but it does not take into account that nobody makes a choice to be gay, and being gay means that you are attracted to your same gender and you desire to have a loving, and oft times sexual relationship with that person. We can not take the gay "acts" out of the homosexual. Yes, the homosexual can become celibate, they can, and often do, attempt life as a straight person, often marrying and having kids, all the while fighting their inner cries for a relationship with a person of the same gender. If anything we are telling people that lying, falsehood is far better than being gay. We try to convince them that it is ok to be unhappy and to follow traditional straight relationships even if those harm the relationship and the other person in that relationship because being gay is wrong. There are plenty of gay men who are suffering in this situation right now. Many are going out in secrete to satisfy, through adultery, and sexual outlets only - their need for same sex identity. Instead of allowing them the chance at finding the right person of the same gender to spend their life, our society is forcing them live a lie and take far greater risks of harm to themselves, to their relationships. If you read through those sites and search more on Gays and the Bible you soon find that there is good reason to believe that homosexuality is not condemned by God - By the Organized Religions, but not God. End the Religious Argument. ************************************* |
| "Why can't they have gay people in the army? Personally, I think they are just afraid of a thousand guys with M16s going, "Who'd you call a faggot?" -Jon Stewart "The Bible contains six admonishments to homosexuals and 362 admonishments to heterosexuals. That doesn't mean that God doesn't love heterosexuals. It's just that they need more supervision." -Lynn Lavner "Why is it that, as a culture, we are more comfortable seeing two men holding guns than holding hands?" -Ernest Gaines War. Rape. Murder. Poverty. Equal rights for gays. Guess which one the Southern Baptist Convention is protesting? -The Value of Families Jesse Helms and Newt Gingrich were shaking hands congratulating themselves on the introduction of an antigay bill in Congress. If it passes, they won't be able to shake hands, because it will then be illegal for a prick to touch an asshole. -Judy Carter |