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In-Vivo Experiments
The following experiments were conducted in-vivo, due to the fact that these
substances are commonly available in health food shops. The first experiment was
due to pure serendipity. I have for many years mega-dosed Vitamin C as part of
my anti-HIV program and typically I take all my vitamins together. I was reading
an article on the web site The Nutrition Reporter
which recommended the on-line Medical Database Medline
for information on the latest research in Medicine. I connected to Medline and
began doing searches for studies on HIV and vitamins, when the searches turned up several articles
from different research laboratories world wide which identified a number of
substances that I realized were available in health food stores. The flavonoids were originally regarded as vitamins, which may be why the searches uncovered these articles. In particular the flavonoid quercetin was cited separately by four different scientific articles as inhibiting the HIV enzymes reverse transcriptase, protease, integrase and vpr. This was somewhat puzzling that such an apparently powerful substance was available in Health Food Stores. I decided to buy some and try it. Similiarly for Spirulina which was also very commonly available in Health Food Stores and is not a flavonoid, but a sulfated polysaccharide.
I'm gay so I contracted HIV through sex before AIDS was even identified.
I tested HIV positive in February 1986 and have been through the gamut of
treatments. Before protease inhibitors were approved several years ago my T4
cell count was 70 and my viral load was in the hundreds of thousands. I began
using a combination of Indinivir, DDI, and d4T and my T4 cell count quickly went up into the low 400s
and my viral load was reduced to almost undetectable. These blood test results
remained fairly stable for several years, but I suffered the typical problems
of protease inhibitor side effects and various other intermittent problems
associated with a less than competent immune system, including several cases of bronchitis, shingles, fatigue and depression. I was also diagnosed with a mild
case of HIV encephalography which resolved when my medications were changed. I
commenced the following experiments in March 2001.
Materials
| Hay Fever and Sinus Formula | ||
| Ingredients: | ||
| Gallium aparine (Clivers) herb | 100mg | |
| Quercetin | 300mg | |
| Euphorbia hirta herb | 100mg | |
| Solidago virgaurea | 250mg | |
| Sambucus nigra | 100mg | |
| Glycyrrhiza glabra (liquorice) | 100mg | |
| Lymphodram | ||
| Ingredients: | ||
| Quercetin | 200mg | |
| Rutin | 500mg | |
| Ascorbic acid | 50mg | |
| Spirulina tablet | 1000mg | |
| Calcium tablet | 600mg | |
Experiment 1:
Following directions given on the label I took two tablets of a "Hay Fever
and Sinus" formula plus my usual mega-dose of Vitamin C - approx. 12 grams.
Results:
I experienced the following side effects:
Hyperventilation - longer deeper breathing
Tachycardia - faster heartbeat
Headache
Dry Mouth
Ringing sound in the head
Insomnia
Experiment 2:
On the subsequent two days I experimented by successively halving the dose of
the Hay Fever and Sinus formula in order to find a dosage that was tolerable. I
then switched to the lymphodram supplement for two days at what I thought were
even lower doses. I subsequently only used the lymphodram supplement.
Results:
A state of "permanent overdose" occurred which lasted a week. felt
extremely over-stimulated and I couldn't sleep at all. I also experienced some
muscle aches throughout this week. I tried to completely avoid vitamin C during
this period and of course quercetin. This was a miserable experience and I
thought it would never end, but finally after a week I felt normal again. During
this week I had a blood test and my T4 cell count was 320 and my viral load over
750,000! At this time I also restarted my regular HIV medications.
Experiment 3:
Two days after I came out of the state of "permanent overdose" I tried
approx. 500mg of vitamin C.
Results:
An hour or so later an large amount of sweat was produced in my armpits,
despite having on under-arm deodorant and not doing any physical activity.
Approximately a week later I had a blood test and my viral load had been reduced
by 99%.
Experiment 4:
I suspected that quercetin was interacting with vitamin C, but a search on Medline did not reveal any relevant articles. I then did a search on
the World Wide Web on "quercetin and vitamin C" which located an
article by Vrijsen et al [15] at the following site:
Journal of General Virology
At the time I was able to "deep link" this article, but this has since
been disallowed, and you have to go to the home page. If you go to the search feature this article can be located. A copy of this article has since then also been placed on Medline. Vrijsen et al
[15] stated quercetin must be ascorbate stabilized to be effective against the
Polio virus. Thus my suspicion was confirmed. Because Vitamin C (i.e. ascorbate)
has a half life of 4 - 5 hours, I then proceeded to dose the following: One
eighth tablet of lymphodram once in the morning plus 7 grams of calcium
ascorbate. Another 7 grams of ascorbate every 5-6 waking hours.
Results:
I quickly found this once again intolerable
Experiment 5:
I continued with my regular HIV medicines,
but stopped taking any quercetin supplements. I continued to experiment with varying doses of vitamin C once a day in the morning only. I had already observed previously that even days after
I had stopped taking quercetin, I experienced side effects just from using vitamin C. My goal was to discover a maximum dose of vitamin C
that I could take in the morning that would not give problems with sleep at
night.
Results:
I found 500mg of vitamin C to be most easily tolerated and did not seriously
interfere with sleep. Even four weeks after I had stopped taking quercetin I
continued to experience mild versions of some of the familiar side effects, in
particular a mild stimulant effect, faster heartbeat and the ringing sound in
the head. I continued to experience periodic episodes of more than usual
sweating in the armpits. My T4 cell count at the end of this period jumped from
450 to 640. My viral load was low (approx. 260) but not undetectable. I found
that the typical side effects of protease inhibitors became very severe.
Experiment 6:
I continued to use 500mg of vitamin C every day with occasional (every 1-2
weeks) extra doses of quercetin plus vitamin C for the next several months. I
also in this period took some "drug holidays", including quercetin
holidays (by not taking vitamin C). I used two different RT inhibitor combinations.
Results:
14th March 2002: T4 cell count: 790.
Viral Load through out this period: < 400 with one exception during drug holiday. Liver and Kidney enzymes and other blood tests were normal
or near normal.
The following experiments were also conducted during this period, but have been listed separated for clarity.
Experiment S1:
After discovering that the co-factor for quercetin was vitamin C, I wondered if any of the other substances I had identified on Medline also had co-factors. A research paper on Spirulina [8] stated that the anti-viral activity of calcium-spirulan was dependent on chelation with the calcium ion, so I tried the following experiment: I took a half tablet of Spirulina (500mg) plus a 600mg tablet of calcium.
Results:
I experienced an uncomfortable sensation in the heart which lasted several hours. This was not painful.
Experiment S2:
A week after experiment S1, I took a 600mg tablet of calcium only.
Results:
I experienced the same sensation in the heart that I had experienced a week previously, even though I had not taken any spirulina.
Experiment S3:
During the subsequent weeks I experimented with calcium containing foods to find a tolerable dose.
Results:
I continued to experience side effects similar to quercetin, particularly problems with sleep just from using calcium only. I found a dose of approx. 200mg of calcium (1 cup of yoghurt) in the morning to be most tolerable.