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Overview: The purpose of this page is to try and give some understanding, reasoning and purpose to the idea, thought, and concept of what the Pagan_Outlook website is About.

For any one who may have questions about it, interest in it's history and direction, or curious about the nature of such a website.

Anyone from guest to the website, to long standing Members of Pagan_Outlook, should be able to find some useful and/or entertaining information here.



Website Description: This is the Official Website of the Pagan_Outlook Discussion Group! A truly Eclectic online Neo Pagan & Spirituality Discussion Group with a YahooGroups E-Mailing List, and a Chat Room on www.CoolChat.net. This Website serves as the Hub between the online Pagan_Outlook Community and the internet At Large. This allows All to Share in Information, and as a way for Members of Pagan_Outlook to Share Their Offerings with Everyone. The Goal is to allow Interaction between many Individuals from open un-moderated Public Forums, to moderated and Members Only Discussion. This Website is constantly Updating New Information and more Interactive Capabilities that All can Enjoy!

Pagan_Outlook Membership: Membership in the Group has been, and remains simple. The only thing required is to join the FREE e-mail list sponsored through YahooGroups. This is a moderated discussion Group that is considered the Flagship to the Pagan_Outlook Network. All discussion is conducted through the e-mail list, and each individual has the ability to set their own options as to how they wish to receive the groups mail, or even receive no mail and read post directly from the YahooGroup's Site. To become a member please visit this URL:

http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Pagan_Outlook/

Or by visiting this URL:

http://elist.paganoutlook.com

If you would like to learn more about the requirements for discussion, please visit our TOS (Terms of Service) page. This page is separate from, and not to be confused with, our host server yahoo's TOS. It should be noted here that actual posting to the group is not a requirement for membership. It is acceptable to join the group to read post only and not directly make any yourself. The choice is always left to the individual to decide.



History & Direction: (*Editors Note: The Following Commentary was written by the Founder of Pagan_Outlook as a Post to the E-Mail List. It has been Edited for Content and Length.)

What is Pagan_Outlook about? So to explain what we are and are not about, we'll have to take a step back in time.

For a time back in the mid 1990's I co-hosted a pagan radio show on WAIF 88.3 which is a public radio station in Cincinnati. The show was a rather successful one with a run time of 4 years, until the name was changed to "Blessed Be Cincinnati", which was a catch phrase I used my first night on P_O. The radio show was set up to discuss topics of the modern day neopagan movement. The range of discussion was from people speaking of their various paths, the proper use of tools and other magickal items, book and music reviews from various pagan authors and musicians. You name it, it was discussed there. Even things of a political nature was prime topics because it affected our daily lives here in this incarnation.

On the morning of January 25th, 2001, I was online and had it that I wanted to start a group that was like no other, and what I had shared in on the radio show, sounded like what I wanted to achieve with the list. I know that many people thought then, and some do to this day, that I started this group out of a need to feed my own ego. This is far from the case. If this was ego driven, I don't think there would be many people on this list, especially from the early days. You see, Pagan_Outlook isn't just about me. It's not just about one person, it's about the whole. Everyone makes this list what it is. I do, the moderators do, the webmasters do and the most important person of all is YOU! You, the person who took the initiative to make a choice, a choice to join the Pagan_Outlook family.

Let us look at the Mission statement located on our website:
http://www.geocities.com/pagan132001/Mission.html.

This statement was written in the infant stages of the group, and as simple as it may sound, it is more than what it actually suggests. As does the name "Pagan_Outlook" itself. Let me explain. As many of you have seen, that has been around for any amount of time, I post things of various traditions and points of view.

One day I may post something on Satanism, and the next day post something containing the word "God" in it. Even though I do not believe in the deity Satan, nor do I believe in the Judea Christian God, there is wisdom to be learned from either. Just as there are teachings contained in everything. These teachings are in everything because Spirit is within everything.

When I see a post containing the word God, I merely replace it with Spirit. This is where the group name of Pagan_Outlook can possibly deceive some people. Even though it is a predominantly pagan list, it is a spiritual list, that has tolerance for all religions, creeds, races, sexual identities, etc etc...

Now underlying the universe we share, we all have our own individual universes, the life we live from day to day. The life we have lived up until this point in time. This affects us as well. So we post things that are going on in our lives, good/bad. People ask for energy to aid them through hard times, as well energy/prayers is asked for friends and family, co workers etc etc. We try to do positive things so we get positive in return. This is why we try to temper varying points of view by not attacking another member onlist. We can choose to disagree. That is a normal thing, but when stating the reasons we disagree, try to use knowledge and etiquette in doing so.

The ways of paganism brings forth many questions, and the realm of email groups, brings challenges within itself. One of the main challenges is how to make out the words of another without the benefit of eye contact, body language and tone of voice of the one who is speaking. Without these benefits, the words and meanings can be taken out of context. Something that is posted in jest could be taken as something serious. It is all in the eye of the person reading it and interpreting the information given. So I hope we can see where a problem lies within this.

The power of words is a remarkable thing. What they mean and how they are interpreted can be a very crucial thing. What could be meant in one way could cause very harmful effects. So we must be eloquent in our speaking on any public forum. I know this is a difficult thing to do, but it can be done. I have the hope that all of us can learn something from this.

"All of life is a guessing game that is full of choices, some guesses are educated and some are a shot in the dark, but no matter what, we must live with them. Choose wisely."
~Rev. David Zeek~

When I created Pagan_Outlook, I was also trying to create a retreat (safe haven) for those who are tired of the constant "witch wars" going on, online and off. Again I would like to state that these are my ideas for the group and I only speak for myself. The moderators have their visions of what Pagan_Outlook is, and can be in the future, as I feel every member of this group should have.

We do not promote illegal activity, we never have and never will. But we do promote freedom of choice. Because every action we take on our respective paths is a choice.

We do not put up with flaming, but we do promote free speech, given it is done appropriately. As individuals living in our respective universes sharing a common universe we all see things differently and with those differences we all will have differing points of view, Speak Them!

How can we ever expect to understand one another without dialogue? It is an impossible task unless effort is put into it, and that effort has to be genuine and positive. This group has alot to offer, if it is given a chance. You just take what information is useful to you and discard the rest. It's all in the eye of the beholder.

There are alot of wonderful people here in this family, with alot of wisdom and valuable thoughts and insight.

Remember, this list is only what You make of it! Thank you for your time,
Blessings,
~David~
List Owner/Moderator



Astrological Chart for Pagan_Outlook: I did a birth chart for P_O. I was curious to see what answers it may hold because I did not take into account a chart when I created the group. It was out of one of my many spur of the moment decisions. So I wanted to leave you with this chart compiled at:

http://www.alabe.com

http://www.paganoutlook.com
Name: Pagan Outlook
January 25 2001
9:30 Time Zone is EST
Cincinnati, Oh

Rising Sign is in 10 Degrees Pisces Very sensitive to your surroundings, other people's feelings become your feelings. Try to avoid negative people because your tendency to empathize with them will make you negative also. An idealist, you must believe in something beyond your normal everyday existence. A dreamer, you like to escape to a world of your own creation. As such, you are known for the vividness of your imagination and should try to share your inner visions with others. Very self-sacrificial by nature, beware of others becoming overly dependent on you or vice versa. Allow yourself to live for yourself once in a while -- you deserve it. Don't be so envious of those who are more aggressive than you -- your gentle charity and true humility are indeed wonderful gifts. on the tenth house cusp (MIDHEAVEN).

Sun is in 05 Degrees Aquarius. You get bored with the status quo and are generally open to new things and ideas. An individualist and a free spirit, your friends are quite important to you as long as they do not try to tie you down by making too many emotional demands on you. Your thoughts are offbeat and you're a bit eccentric, but not always very changeable. As a matter of fact, you can be quite stubborn at times. Very fair-minded when dealing with large groups or broad issues, you are not always emotionally sensitive to the needs of individuals. Extremely objective, with good powers of observation, you would be qualified to study technical and complicated subjects, like science, computers or maybe even astrology.

Moon is in 17 Degrees Aquarius. Very freedom-oriented, you must always be able to do what you wish, no matter what. You become stubborn and recalcitrant when others try to force you into a mold. You are a true democrat -- you are not a follower, but you enjoy being with those who are like-minded. You appreciate emotional self-control -- you practice it yourself and you look for it in others. You solve problems, including emotional ones, with your brains and intellect, not your feelings. Try to be tolerant of those who have powerful and obvious emotional responses -- not everyone is as objective, cool, dispassionate and detached as you are.

Mercury is in 23 Degrees Aquarius. You tend to be very opinionated -- you have strongly felt notions about things and are quite vocal about expressing and defending them. Yet you are also an original thinker -- you enjoy shocking others with your offbeat, original thoughts. You appreciate and need mental and intellectual stimulation. Your judgment is usually fair and impartial -- you can be a good critic because you can remain objective and unemotional about most things.

Venus is in 22 Degrees Pisces. You have a dreamy, fanciful, romantic nature and a very creative imagination. Indeed, at times, your private fantasies are more appealing than the reality around you and it is difficult for you to leave them. You tend to be unselfish and giving in relationships and are extremely sensitive of the needs of others. Be very sure that those you help are worthy of your devotion and are not merely taking advantage of your innocence and naivete.

Mars is in 19 Degrees Scorpio. Your likes and dislikes are strong and intense, never casual or superficial. You are known for your persistence and willful obsession. Once you have decided on a course of action, you are unstoppable. Your emotional actions tend to be extreme, although you try to keep them muted. You are not quick to anger, you do slow burns. And you tend to release your anger as sarcasm or irony. Beware of your tendency to hold grudges and to be vengeful. When you do fight, or release your internal tensions, you do so body and soul -- you become totally passionate and your outbursts are awesome to behold.

Jupiter is in 01 Degrees Gemini. You have a logical, detached, objective view of most things. Your interests are wide-ranging and you are an avid student, with expertise in many different areas. You love to work things out in your mind -- everything you do is reduced to an exercise in logic and reason. You have the ability to grasp abstractions and to deal successfully with the larger issues of life. Your overemphasis on developing your powerful intellect can cause your emotional and intuitive abilities to atrophy unless you consciously choose to exercise them.

Saturn is in 24 Degrees Taurus. Complete freedom of choice makes you ill at ease. You must have a firm, ordered, secure foundation in your life in order to feel comfortable. You do not adapt easily and tend to fear the new and untried. You constantly fear that you do not have enough (love, property, material things, etc.) and this makes you tend toward being selfish, withdrawn and stingy. If you try to surround yourself with supportive people in your environment, you will become more emotionally self-supporting.

Uranus is in 19 Degrees Aquarius. You, and most of your peer group as well, are reformers at heart. You want to make positive changes that will benefit society as a whole. You are willing to devote your time and energy to see that they come about, especially if the proper group support and combined purpose of will can be found. Be careful that your devotion to group goals does not produce too much friction or neglect in your own interpersonal one-on-one relationships.

Neptune is in 06 Degrees Aquarius. You, and your entire generation, will idealize and even venerate the ability to remain detached as well as the ability to objectively analyze any given situation. There will be a concerted effort on your part to cure the ills of society as a whole. But be very careful to continue to maintain and protect the rights of individuals in the midst of these potentially far-reaching changes.

Pluto is in 14 Degrees Sagittarius. For your entire generation, society's cherished beliefs and totems will be radically changed. Many traditional concepts will be totally altered, if not completely destroyed. The rights of individuals to pursue their own course in life will be reasserted.

N. Node is in 15 Degrees Cancer. You genuinely enjoy meeting other people, but you're at your best if you can do so from the comfort of your own home. You prefer others to come to you and tend to feel uncomfortable about leaving your home or neighborhood for any extended period of time. Those who do come in contact with you are struck by your caring and obliging nature -- you really make them feel at home. You form the closest ties, however, with members of your immediate family, especially your parents and children. You're at your best attending or organizing family reunions!

This is only the abbreviated highlights of the full length (PNR) Professional Natal Report http://alabe.com/chartservice/natal.html If you would like a detailed (approx 30 page) interpretation of your astrological profile which includes your houses, aspects, and major trends in your chart - or if you would like other reports or readings that depict your life and the influences that you are under for any specific dates - See our chart service offerings at http://alabe.com/chartservice or contact us at 1-800-THE-NOVA for prices and information.
Copyright �1999 Astrolabe Inc. All Rights Reserved. Not for Commercial Use. This text may not be modified or altered. You may post this text of your own personal report online as long as the links above are preserved.

Again, Thank You to everyone for making Pagan_Outlook a reality!!! It is so deeply appreciated!!!!!!
Blessings (((((((((Family))))))))),
~David~



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