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1. Number of people: 80.
2. Number of chairs: Approx: 155.
3. Type of person: -.
4. Socio-Economic Status: Lower middle.
5. Amount of kids: Some.
6. Ages of people: 15-21yo x 6.
7. 50% are men.
8. Weekly offering published: not listed 21/5/00.
9. Lateness of people getting to church: -.
*10. Any other interesting information: This is a popular church landmark
in Toowoomba, all because it has a blue illuminated cross at night.
11. Time there AND date of visit: 21/5/00.
12. Length of service: Allow 1hr 30m.
13. This and other service times: 8am on Oct 2007 (Was 8.30am on 21/5/00) and is the only service.
14. Preacher: Rev Gabor Szabo on Oct 2007. BTh GradDipMin. (Rev M. Vainikka Dec 2003.)
15. Feeling of building: OK.
16. Estimate style of belief: -.
17. Dress code so as not to stand out: Casual to smart.
18. How to get there: Travel toward the University of Southern Queensland along
West St just past the golf course.
1. # of people: 162 (Palm Sunday there were 187 people at
16 Apr 2000.) 2. Empty chairs: 238 chairs possible.
3. Type of person: Lots of dairy farmers!
4. Socio- Economic Status: Business working.
5. Kids: 25.
6. Ages: Prob 16 20-30yo's, mostly 45-65yo.
7. Men: Prob 40%
8. Offering: Not listed.
9. Late arrivals: 4 at 8.33am ; 2 at 8.42am.
***10. Interesting info: Pastor told me "I myself
belief in a literal creationism of the world but we won't be against people
who don't believe in the world literally being created in 6 days." He also
said "Yes, I have asked for speaking in tongues." Also saying "I
believe there is a literal devil but am not against those Lutherans who don't
believe that."
11. Time spent: 8.20am-9am 26/8/01. (8.55am- 2.15pm Goombungee lunch)
12. When service finished. Finishes in 1 hour to 1 hour 15 mins.
13. This & other service times: 8.30am, 7pm (First and Third Sundays as of Oct 2007).
*14. Preacher: Ed Szabo began as the Pastor at St Paul's Toowoomba Nov 16 2008 and is the 15th Pastor for the church. Ps K D Kotzur (Date of report.) (Rev Mark Vainikka has the qualifications BA(Th) LTh GradDipMin MTh and was at St Pauls Toowoomba as of Dec 2003 till past Oct 2007.)
15. Feeling: All hymns, no chorus's at all, bit cold, oldish, traditional, no
"feeling."
*This Pastor said as well as many other Pastors "Lutheran churches are
waning statistically."
**16. Their belief: Like all churches, there are 2 sides, the larger mainline
humanistic/ liberal churches and the smaller fundamental/ literal bible believing
churches. Australian Lutherans are largely conservative and not spirit filled.
This church is a little on the liberal side and Redeemer would be considered
a little on the conservative side.
17. Dress code so as not to stand out: Casual to smart.
18. How to get there: Travel along James St towards city, go past Hume and turn
left.
7pm LUTHERAN ST PAUL'S Phillip St. (First and Third Sundays as of Oct 2007)
*1. # of people: 10.
2. Chairs: 238 chairs.
3. Type of person: -.
4. Socio- Economic Status: -.
5. Kids: 0.
6. Ages: 45-65yo.
7. Men: 50%
8. Offering: -.
9. Late arrivals: -.
10. Interesting info: -.
11. Time spent: 7.10pm 23/9/01.
12. When service finished. 50m.
13. This & other service times: 7pm (First and Third Sundays as of Oct 2007), 8.30am.
14. Preacher: Ps Ed Szabo in 2009. Ps K D Kotzur (Rev Mark Vainikka BA(Th) LTh GradDipMin MTh as of Dec 2003 - past Oct 2007.)
15. Feeling: Not bad.
16. Their belief: More liberal.
17. Dress code so as not to stand out: Casual to smart.
18. How to get there: Travel along James St towards city, go past Hume and turn
left.
1. Number of people: 90.
2. Number of chairs: Approx 300.
*3. Type of person: Oddly there are a lot of leadership at this church, missionary's
children, ex- leadership etc...
4. Socio-Economic Status: Medium.
5. Amount of kids: About Fifteen.
6. Ages of people: 0-70yo.
7. 50% are men.
8. Weekly offering published: -.
9. Lateness of people getting to church: -.
*10. Any other interesting information: Peg Russel did music here. They have
a choir in the loft and the music is well thought out and have changes of all
types of music and voice. I visited again 26 August 2001 and Pastor Borgas left
the church May 2001 and Ps Cecil Logan had temporarily taken over. The church
"calls" or requests Pastors to join them, and there is often a 2nd
calling and they often refuse that calling if the first was refused. Numbers
have dropped to 107 people in 26/8/01. Reasons why is that one of the problems
is that people wanted a spiritual elder over groups but the new Pastor wants
cell groups etc.. As of about Jan 2002 there is a new full time Pastor.
11. Time there AND date of visit: 90 people with interim Pastor 9/01. (This
lasted for many months from the 5/01. Ps Borgas spent some 10 years and before
that there was an interim Pastor for many months.)
**173 people when Ps Borgas was there 5 Dec 1999; 107 people at 26/8/01
9am-2pm.
12. Length of service: Approx 70m.
13. This and other service times: 9.30am.
14. Preacher: Rev Roger Atze BTh. Interim Pastor was Ps Cec Logan (not married, ex-PNG).
Rev David Borgas left Toowoomba 5/01.
15. Feeling of building: -.
**16. Estimate style of belief: Between 30 and 40 people minimally transferred
their membership from Redeemer to Living Grace.
17. Dress code so as not to stand out: Casual to smart.
18. How to get there: Travel south along Neil St from Margaret St and it's on
the right.
1. Number of people: 49.
2. Number of chairs: Approx 180.
3. Type of person: -.
4. Socio-Economic Status: Medium.
5. Amount of kids: Zero.
6. Ages of people: Mostly 50+.
7. 50% are men.
8. Weekly offering published: -.
9. Lateness of people getting to church: -.
10. Any other interesting information: -.
11. Time there AND date of visit: 23/9/01 10.20am-35am; (26/3/00 36 people),
12. Length of service: Allow 1 hr 20m.
13. This and other service times: Alternates between 8.00am and 10am as of Oct 2007 - Communion 1st Sunday of month. (Used to be 10am 23/9/01)
14. Preacher: Formerley Marcus Schultz till 2001. Ps Peter Faggotter (Oct 2007+) previously
from Ingham.
15. Feeling of building: -.
16. Estimate style of belief: -.
17. Dress code so as not to stand out: Casual to smart.
18. How to get there: Travel towards Long St along Hume St and it's near Long
St.
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