ARCHIVE-Old services in current churches.
All of these churches changed their services out of GROWTH.
These reports are important for researches. For example, here
one can see how many people were going to AOG before they dived their church
to 2 services.
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THE BELOW REPORT WAS FROM 10 SEPTEMBER 2000.
ASSEMBLY OF GOD SPRING ST 9.30am
***1. # of people: 400p normally. 2. Chairs available: 936. 3. Type of person:
Probably due to management of other charismatic churches there are many ex-C.O.C
and T.C.C. people. 4. Socio- Economic Status: Middle class, almost no working
class. Many Asians from University. 5. Kids: Some 60 children in Sunday School
(In one study there were another 439 people in church.) 6. Ages: Family.
***7. Men: No longer is there a higher ratio of women especially in Charismatic/
Pentecostal including Evangelical churches. In AOG there can often be 60% men.
After doing this large research study I would conclude that it is a complete
misconception across the board of all churches that there are a distinct majority
of women in churches generally speaking.
**8. Offering: -. Garden City Brisbane AOG report $20,000 per week. 9. Late
arrivals: Few.
***10. Interesting info: AOG lead the way for all churches musically. TCC lead
the way politically, Uniting lead the caring arm, Baptists lead the way as missionaries,
AOG lead the way in Entertainment and Music. 11. Date & Time spent: 10/9/00
10.30-12.00. 12. When service finished. About 11.30am 13. This & other service
times: 9.30am & 6pm 14. Preacher: Senior Pastor Fred Evans. 15. Feeling:
Highly positive. ***16. Their belief: Original Leaders in the Charismatic/ Pentecostal
movement. You will almost never hear tongues or even a loud over bearing prophecy
in ALL Pentecostal churches these days, this change began in the early 1990's.
17. Dress code so as not to stand out: Casual to smart. 18. How to get there:
Travel south towards K-Mart along Ruthven St, turn left into Spring St, travel
30 metres, turn into property, go 10 metres up driveway turn right for parking.
6pm ASSEMBLY OF GOD SPRING ST 1. # of people: 150p. 2. Chairs
available: 936. 3. Type of person: -. 4. Socio- Economic Status: Medium. 5.
Kids: 20 kids. 6. Ages: Aged 15-50yo. 7. Men: 50%. 8. Offering: -. 9. Late arrivals:
Few.
*10. Interesting info: The very first time I went to this AOG church was 21
years ago, when the church consisted of about 40 people in the tiny Neil St
church. 11. Date & Time spent: 7/01 5.45pm-8.30pm Have been to this church
some 100 times. 12. When service finished. About 7.45pm. 13. This & other
service times: 6pm; 9.30am 14. Preacher: Senior Pastor Fred Evans 15. Feeling:
Good. 16. Their belief: Charismatic/ Pentecostal. 17. Dress code so as not to
stand out: Casual to smart. 18. How to get there: Travel south towards K-Mart
along Ruthven St, turn left into Spring St, travel 30 metres, turn into property,
go 10 metres up driveway turn right for parking.
THIS CHURCH ORIGINALLY MET IN ONE GROUP AT MOFFATT ST. THE CHURCH WAS PUT INTO 3 SEPERATE GROUPS AND BUILDINGS IN JUNE 2003.
1. Number of people: 373.
2. Number of chairs: 545.
3. Type of person: Confident in the faith types.
4. Socio-Economic Status: Medium. Not low.
5. Amount of kids: At least 82 aged 0 -17yo.
6. Ages of people: About 20 were 60+. 19-30yo's were minimally 66+. Mostly young
families and youth.
***7. Percentage of men in church: For those interested
in research I came across this remarkable find or anomaly. Generally, I have
found that across the board of most churches the percentage of men in church
are down to about 37%. However, I had found this. That from the age group of
19 to 30 year old's there were exactly 50% each of women and men. (30 in total.)
They were singles as well. *As expected, in this church, out
of the older age group, once again, 37% were OLDER men (aged 30+). So, out of
one small sample group of 41 adults there were 26 women 15 men.
8. Weekly offering published: -.
9. Lateness of people getting to church: -.
**10. This church was known as Victory until March 2001. Any other interesting
information: Ps Chris Mulhare was a Pastor at New Hope AOG Crows Nest Qld, a
church planted by New Hope Toowoomba, he then became Senior Pastor at Toowoomba
New Hope AOG, as former Senior Pastor Rod Plummer went to Tokyo as a contingent
of 100 people to plant the first Australian AOG church in Tokyo, Japan.
**Note: Pastors collect names and addresses from all visitors and if your visiting
from another church they will ask you to not visit. If you visit 3 times you
pretty well automatically become a member or get put on the books as such. The
count of these reported by them are 800 in 1999 and 1000 in 2001. Each Assemblies
of God is completely independently owned and operated however recently New Hope
and others operate a network of sister churches as there are Crows Nest and
Warwick New Hope churches.
11. Time there AND date of visit: 9.30am- 11.30am (160 people 6/99-10/99.)
12. Length of service: 1hr 50m.
13. This and other service times: 9.30am. 6pm.
14. Preacher: Snr Ps Chris Mulhare.
***15. Feeling of building: Warm, friendly, energetic,
like ANY large church you do not even get spoken to UNTIL you attend one of
their many home groups.
16. Estimate style of belief: AOG led the charge of the Pentecostal/ Charismatic
movement church in the world which means. You do not have to speak in tongues
in order to be saved but like almost every Charismatic church, it's warmly encouraged
and never pushed.
17. Dress code so as not to stand out: Smart Casual to light formal.
18. How to get there:
23. HOW MUCH CHURCH IS OPEN TO WIDER CHRISTIAN COMMUNITY: They discourage their
members from going to other churches and inter- related church activities.
THIS CHURCH SOLD THEIR BUILDING AND MOVED TO TEMPORARY ACCOMODATION HERE.
9.30am WEST TOOWOOMBA PRESBYTERIAN Fairholme School Wirra Wirra
St West & near Bridge. 1. Number of people: 169. 2. Number of chairs: 264.
(Plus 180 in a stack.)
~3. Type of person: For researchers these are an interesting group as they are
generally quite well educated but includes the unemployed in their "sphere"
Are also account types, teachers, Telstra workers, builders, nurses, checkout
operators.
4. Socio-Economic Status: Medium Low. 5. Amount of kids: Thirty are 16yo-21yo.
Thirty are 0yo-16yo. 6. Ages of people: Good cross section of ages. 7. 50% are
men. 8. Weekly offering published: $3631; Building fund $350; Mission $379.
9. Lateness of people getting to church: The church did start late itself and
many people arrived late. (9.35am 8; 9.37 6; 9.39 5; 9.40 4; 9.42 8; 9.43 8;
9.47 7; 9.48 8; 9.50 6; 9.52 8.)
~10. Any other interesting information: On the 30/6/01 most of the office wood
framing had gone up on the recently purchased land at South and Greenwattle
(South West corner). Their old building which included 3 houses, near West and
Bridge Sts had 3 estimates from valuers done and they got the highest valuer
price. They shifted from there early 2001. An unknown millionaire man in Highfields
bought it which turned out to be planters of a Buddhist Temple which the church
now is. In the rear hall is a 60 cm stone Buddha. 11. Time there AND date of
visit: 1 July 2001 9am-11.45am (Been 30 times over 15 years.) 12. Length of
service: Allow 1.5 hours plus cup of tea. 13. This and other service times:
9.30am; 5pm. 14. Preacher: Roland Sondergeld. 15. Feeling of building: Good.
~16. Estimate style of belief: Not necessarily a Charismatic church but they
work with Christian Leaders Network very closely, have Hillsong worship, are
open to Charismatics fellowshipping there of which there are a number. You could
describe then as soft core Calvanists which really means they believe in "once
saved always saved" doctrine.
17. Dress code so as not to stand out: Casual to smart. 18. Travel up or east
towards range along Cambell St, go to the end and turn left into Wirra Wirra
St. Parking is available on the grounds.
5pm WEST TOOWOOMBA PRESBYTERIAN Fairholme School Wirra Wirra St West & near
Bridge.
1. Number of people: 76. 2. Number of chairs: 90. (There are 1268 chairs capably
of being fitted out into this building and the Pastor only put out chairs as
they were needed which compacted everyone up which gave the church a really
"together" feeling as opposed to having people sit part. (AOG Spring
do this by way of black curtain dividers which doesn't work too well, AOG New
Hope add the last 3 rows of chairs at the last minute which works well. Church
of Christ (then Margaret St) would rope off sections then open them up and use
ushers to squash people in, which works very well. All these ideas are excellent
church management.) 3. Type of person: Many Singles. 4. Socio-Economic Status:
Middle. 5. Amount of kids: Very few under aged fifteen. 6. Ages of people: Mostly
16-40 singles, also marrieds 40yo-60yo. 7. 50% are men. 8. Weekly offering published:
$3635. Building fund: $2345. Mission $315. 9. Lateness of people getting to
church: 4 at 5.10pm; 8 5.08; 4 5.04; 2 5.15; 4 at 5.22pm. 10. Any other interesting
information: They got $25,000 more than what they expected to get from their
old building. Also, Church completion date last week Sat Oct 2001. 11. Time
there AND date of visit: 20/8/01 4.50pm-7.45pm. 12. Length of service: 1hour
10mins but there was a tea after the service. 13. This and other service times:
5pm, 9.30am. 14. Preacher: Roland Sondergeld. 15. Feeling of building: Good.
16. Estimate style of belief: Sometimes night services are a bit more Charismatic
in evangelical churches but this is not the case. 17. Dress code so as not to
stand out: Casual to smart. 18. How to get there: Travel up or east towards
range along Cambell St, go to the end and turn left into Wirra Wirra St.
TOOWOOMBA CITY CHURCH CLOSED ONE SUNDAY MORNING SERVICE.
TOOWOOMBA CITY CHURCH. AS OF NOVEMBER 2003 THERE IS ONE SERVICE.
IN MAY 2001 THERE WERE TWO SUNDAY MORNING SERVICES. 8.30am Sundays for mostly
families and 10.30am for the rest. (Mostly younger with some Asians.)
Address: Neil and Thomas Sts 1. # of people: 168 8.30am; 135 10.30am. 2. Available
chairs:
*3. Type of person: Businessmen and socio-politics influence. 4. Socio- Economic
Status: Middle. 5. Kids: Many. 6. Ages: 1yo - 60yo. 7. Men: 50%. 8. Offering:
Not disclosed. 9. Late arrivals: -.
*10. Interesting info: People have given $10,000 to AGMF; $15,000 for the Light
for equipment; $30,000 profits of Transformations Conference video sales got
20 overseas Pastors to fly here; 4 days of chaplain work $35,000 plus supporting
several missionaries overseas. 11. Date & Time spent: 30 visits including
17 Oct 1999; 30 Jan 2000; 30 Apr 2000; 13 May 2001. THE OLD FIGURE FOR TCC is
190 people worshipping in 2000. 12. When service finished. Allow 1.5 - 2 hours.
13. This & other service times: 8.30am.
**14. Preacher: Senior Ps Jeff Frankham. Former Senior Ps Ian Shelton fulfills
more of a role as organizer of conferences, special events, church unity. Christian
Leaders Network was started by Ps Ian Shelton and is the largest Charismatic
and Evangelical Ministers association / fraternal / working group who meet Friday
mornings for Pastors who work full time ministry. They also hold a combined
church service at the Empire Theatre 4 times a year. They bought George Otis
from the "Transformations" video to Toowoomba and this was successful
due to the working together of ministers for revival. Pastors are known to mow
each others lawn as a sign of humility. Pastors get invited to preach in other
churches as well. Ps Colin travels the world widely promoting church unity.
The only full time Bible College under "World Changers" ministry is
supported by particularly AOG Spring St, TCC and Vision. It has recently been
accommodated through renovations at TCC.
15. Feeling: Good. 16. Their belief: Charismatic. 17. Dress code: Casual to
Smart. 18. Travel towards city, turn west along Chalk Drive from Hume St, turn
right or north along Neil Sts.
this is old.
THIS CHURCH HAD DIFFICULTY GOING FROM ONE SUNDAY MORNING SERVICE
(HERE) TO TWO SERVICES (CURRENT) in late Aug 03.
9.00am RUSSEL ST UNITING. Address: Russel St near Holberton
St.
1. Number of people: 111.
2. Number of chairs: 171.
3. Type of person: -.
4. Socio-Economic Status: Lower-Medium.
5. Amount of kids: 23 or 20%.
6. Ages of people: 1yo- 8yo Twelve of them. Some families. Half of church is
older.
7. 30% or twenty are men (Minus the children.)
8. Weekly offering published: $1533 weekly average for the month of June.
9. Lateness of people getting to church: -.
**10. Any other interesting information: This church used to be called Newtown
Uniting and is in the same building but Scotts Uniting at Stephen and West St
and Westbrook Uniting have been closed and have successfully merged here. However
not everybody wanted it and their newsletter 27 May 2001 said that a number
of people have written requesting transfers of membership. The church rented
out the old Stephens and West St premises to West AOG as if it's sold they will
not get any money then. However, time and again these ex-Uniting buildings always
do indeed get sold, in about 4 to 6 years.
11. Time there AND date of visit: 9.10am - 11.30am. 6 May 2001 at first day
of having combined churches into one there were 200 people and visitors present.
27 May 2001 97 people; 111 people which includes the 19 kids in Sunday School
on 5/8/01, 10mins.
12. Length of service: Allow 1.5 hours.
13. This and other service times: 9.00am, 5pm.
14. Preacher: Rev David Ellis (from St George) Also, lay, with stipend (paid)
Youth Pastor Andrew Fox has gone to Kawana Waters, Sunshine Coast Nov 2002.
***15. Feeling of building: They bought some 10 acres of land on the corner
of BOUNDARY AND HURSELEY RD as of December 2002 (South West corner.) Their name
may change from Russel Uniting to West Uniting. Current church has nice old
shiny pews, new carpet, new glass in foyer, halogen lights.
16. Estimate style of belief: Essentially non-charismatic, traditional. 17.
Dress code so as not to stand out: Casual to smart.
18. How to get there: Travel towards city, turn west (Oakey side) up Russel
St, is on the left before Holberton St.
OLD LISTING FOR RESEARCH PURPOSES SO PEOPLE CAN SEE GROWTH WHEN A CHURCH SHIFTS.
WESTSIDE Christian Church AOG. Warwick St. 1. 29 people. 2.
86 chairs. 3. Blue collar charismatics. 4. Socio- Economic Status: Working.
5. 9 kids. 6. Family age. 7. 7 men thus 13 women. 8. Zip. 9. -. 10. Ps Joe Casey
came from Warwick COC and then pastored in St George. 11. 11. Time AND date.
2/2001 10.05am-10.12pm. 12. Length of service. Allow 1hr 45min - 2 hr 15 min.
13. 9.30am and 6pm. 14. Ps Joe Casey. 15. They have a new but disused shopping
centre building. 16. Blue collar pentecostals. 17. Dress code: Neat Casual.
18. Travel south to Uni along West St, Turn right into Drayton Rd, cross 1st
traffic light which is South St; first street on right is Warwick St, about
the 15th house block on left in a small shopping centre is the church.