My rebuttal will begin directly following the spacers below. Everything has been kept in the exact order it appeared in the original; the only additions are my rebuttals following each of Mr. Cox's statements; there have been no deletions or subtractions.
After allowing Mr. Cox ample time to consider his actions and to work this out with me personally and having failed to do so, I find this rebuttal necessary in order to set the record straight. It was he who chose to openly deride and slander me on his forum while disallowing me a voice to rebut him. I have little choice but to reply in this way. I apologise if this sounds like sour grapes, however in our world this is not a light matter.
No doubt some will think Mr. Cox's actions are justifiable under the circumstances; after all in some minds it's justifiable to act this way with an (imagined) "apostate". The only thing I can say is that's something the individual need discuss with God.
Here is the chain of events leading up to this rebuttal:
1)- On Tuesday, July 26, 1999 I left a single reply to Mr. Cox on his open forum. In this message I inquired certain things concerning his forum rules, quoting them, then asking my question. I deliberately did not post any other messages to save him the trouble of searching out other posts by me, and to allow him time to reply. Here is what he said in the email I received later that day:
"Brother, I didn't even read your post that I deleted and I locked you. "
2)-In that same email on July 26, 1999 Mr. Cox wrote:
"Why? Because we don't need your "spirit" around here. I get emails from people on the JH forum that tell me what you stand for and who with. We don't need you around here! "
I did not realize that Christians were supposed to take "hearsay" as the gospel truth???
Pr 18:13 He that answereth a matter before he heareth it, it is folly and shame unto him.
3)-On July 28, 1999 I received an email reply from Mr. Cox where he stated:
"By the way, I am posting this your email and my reply in its entirety on my forum! " (Screen Capture)Truthfully though the entire email is here. It might be a small matter to some but in this kind of email exchange I make sure that I include all previous exchanges in that thread...it tends to convey a more complete story. I have every email I've either sent or received back till the beginning of 1997.
By the way...I have NEVER posted on your forum using a different handle...wouldn't you like that? What were you trying to do, bait me?
4)-Mr. Cox has given me three (3) different reasons that he locked me out...
a)-July 26th it was:
"Because we don't need your "spirit" around here. I get emails from people
on the JH forum that tell me what you stand for and who with.
We don't need you around here!
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b)-Later July 26th it was:
"The reason you and IHTL are banned on the forum is because your vocabulary is so lacking that you don't know how to disagree in a pleasant way!"
Interesting!...and you do Mr. Cox? (Examples)
It was my understanding that you didn't like wishy-washy Christians. Maybe it's really only "good" when you aren't?....Waaa!
c)-Then on July 28th the implications was:
"I will tell you the reason you are shunned! It is not because you have a "new corner on the truth" or some "great revelation!" It is because you are annoying and don't get to the point!
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Yes, I am very annoying...to those who are unwilling to listen to the scriptures. I suspect that this third (3rd) reason...is the real one.
Jas 1:8 A double minded man is unstable in all his ways.
5)- August 19, 1999 - Mr. Cox has yet to apologise, allow me opportunity to defend myself, or, to remove my words from his forum. He shows complete lack of remorse over this. I fail to understand how anyone might trust him.
My rebuttal follows:
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| The following is an email I received from a person concerning "leadership worship" with in the fundamental circles. It's quite funny, but you have to be patient, the rascal never gets to the point! | My Reply: |
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Yes Mr. Cox, this was an "email", and it does appear to be accurate (as far as it goes). As I hope everybody knows, "emails" are usually held in confidence between honorable men.
In addition to your gross failure in this matter, I would like you to recall this statement you made to me before we started our email exchange: "Now, if you want to email me, I would be more than happy to discuss any issue you choose! NOT ALL FUNDAMENTALISTS "RUN!"" But Mr. Cox...you did run...and hid too. |
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| See the arrogance of this rascal. He thinks he's "on to something.." Anyway, here is my reply! | My Reply: |
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I notice Mr. Cox that you posted on your forum where I couldn't reply to it. What happened to the "openly" part...did you forget that?
If you're not afraid to let people know my side, then I invite you to post this URL on your forum so that my rebuttal may be seen. However, I doubt you have the intestinal fortitude for that. |
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| "Yes you are right! I'm sure (because of your character) you have talked to EVERY fundamentalists in the world right? Oh, but wait, you should talk to the missionary alliance, pentacostals, CATHOLICS (funny, you never, ever,ever mentioned them), SBC (did I hit you yet?). | My Reply: |
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Didn't you read the message Mr. Cox? The answer is right here. (You missed this part I guess?) Besides Mr. Cox, I was battling those groups online over ten (10) years ago. I ran a PCBOARD BBS and tackled the Roman Catholic Church, Mormons, Jehovah's Witnesses, the SBC, Christadelphians, and a whole slew of others in FIDO and PCB conferences before you even knew what a modem was. Now it's time I took a look at my own denomination. |
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| I will tell you the reason you are shunned! It is not because you have a "new corner on the truth" or some "great revelation!" It is because you are annoying and don't get to the point! | My Reply: |
| Like I said..."yes" I am very annoying to people who are unable to slow down and take a serious look at the scriptures. Why don't you try it sometime?...instead of just trying to overwhelm people with a lot of misapplied verses? |
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| No! I won't discuss it with you. Why? Because you and I are in agreement! I don't believe the "pastor" is above his people! I believe he should be respected. But not above reproach! | My Reply: |
| I noticed that you were awful quick to avoid giving me a chance to choose another subject. WHAM!....boy!...you sure did jump on the chance to make it look like I didn't have anything else to say. Locked me out of the forum real quick didn't you...couldn't take a chance on looking like you were in trouble. |
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| Why don't you ever mention the Catholic church that has probably sent more people to hell than any other "religion" or "denomination?" I'll tell you why, because you could care less about the truth. Your motive is to argue. That is Ms Billie William's too. If fundamentalism wasn't here (and it always will be by the way) you nor billie would have anything to do! | My Reply: |
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I already covered the first part. I was doing that before you even knew what a modem was. Didn't you read the message Mr. Cox? the answer is right here. (You missed this part I guess?) I see that you can call names and belittle people pretty well...it takes practice to do it well. I notice you even have your own cheering section. But deal with the scriptures?...nah! You can't see what's killing the forest cause you refuse to look at the trees. You just stand back and watch the forest die...and ignore the trees. It's so much easier to talk about somebody else isn't it? You just can't hack it when you don't get to pick the subject. You love so much to pick on the popular things but run away from exposing your own (denomination's) sins. |
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| You sir, have ONE agenda, and that is to argue! | My Reply: |
| My agenda is to point out the lies fundamentalist sheep have been fed for decades...and are getting worse. You all can't take the heat so you avoid serious exegesis. Sure!...it's easy to point fingers at the outside...but you can't bear it when someone is able to point out the errors in your own house...from inside the house. |
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| A person that defends themselves has a FOOL for a client! I, sir, could really care less what you or ms williams think of me or fundamentalism. Billy has nothing better to do than to go around trashing forums using FAKE names (because of his cowardace way). I know you hate fundamentalism and the JH forum does too. That is why I have enough character to stay away from it. You and billy don't have enough character to stay off other's forums that have banned you because of your hateful spirit. | My Reply: |
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Now you're a mindreader?
I cannot speak for Mr. Williams but I have never posted anything in your forum under another name. I posted ONE message there as BLAKSHEEP which you deleted. In addition I have not posted in David William's forum, nor in Mike O'Neal's forum under ANY other name in 1999 at all as I recall. You, Mr. Cox are simply either lying or misinformed. I suspect that you would love it if I really did that...have you been trying to bait me in to it? I can see the paranoia now; somebody posts a contrary message and it has to be me or Mr. Williams. Don't you just love the prestige of being persecuted for the faith ? Can I hear a big "Duh!". |
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| I had a Charasmatic-Catholic email me last night. This person was kind and polite, but had questions. I emailed this person back very kindly in answer to their question. My point is, I don't mind if someone disagrees with me, YOU DO! It is evident in your postings on the JH forum. What are you worried about. My position is very,very clear on everything. If you disagree, so! | My Reply: |
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Didn't you read the message Mr. Cox? the answer is right here. (You missed this part I guess?)
I am not the one running and hiding...casting slanders...and refusing to exegete the scriptures. Just because you swamp a person with bible verses does not make you right. You simply can't handle it when a person wants to slow down and examine the verses...that would give you away. You just can't let people look too close... You want to pick the subjects because it's so much easier to avoid the things you fear discussing...that's all. You're just mad because you can't deal with certain subjects...so you try to make people think there isn't a case. You boys know you've got the sheep in your pocket as long as you can keep them ignorant on certain things. Here's a hint Mr. Cox...we can read now. |
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| You and billy boy are really bizarre! | My Reply: |
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Duh!
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| So anyway, I don't think "shepards are above reproach from their sheep!" Again, as always, FAILED to give me an example!! By the way, I am posting this your email and my reply in its entirety on my forum! | My Reply: |
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I already mentioned your cowardly act concerning posting all this the way you did.
No Mr. Cox, I did not FAIL to give you an example; you simply jumped on the first chance to run away as fast as you could before we had come to an agreement. Then, you posted this in your forum making it appear that I had failed. Pathetic. |
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God Bless, | My Reply: |
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However, it's too bad you pervert them the way you do.
Anyone who wants to schedule Mr. Cox for a meeting may contact him at the website above. Personally I'd rather sleep with a rattlesnake. |
