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replaced by the next generation, which I believe will tend toward libertarian
ideas. Libertarianize
the GOP To: Roger I assume that this paper is for undergrad work? I had a
college professor who just got his PhD say that you never never never argue or
disagree with the professors when you are going for a PhD. The key is to choose
a post grad program that you agree with. I have heard of a black person getting prosecuted for a
hate crime. But nothing in the media, like they do when it's politically
correct. Sci
Fi Guy To: Roger I'm beginning to think it must be a job requirement for
college professors to be left-leaning. I'm currently enrolled in our local
community college. My algebra(yes, algebra) teacher had made several comments in
class which set off alarms in my head, including one in support of unions.
Thursday night, in the middle of a math class, he suddenly asked us if we knew
where the money was coming from to pay for this war? "It's our
grandchildren's future," he answered himself. It took all I had in me not
to start a debate with him. THIS IS ALGEBRA FOR GOODNESS SAKES. dubyagee To: Roger commie professor redundancy :) southern
rock To: Libertarianize
the GOP I disagree. The next generation of college profs will
tend to be even more extreme than this one. Although the extreme they swing to
may be National Socialism (NAZI), but of course they'll call it something else. cartoonistx To: dubyagee According to several thinkers and scholars of
intellectual history, the ideas that are dominant in academia at any time are
unlikely to change -- in the minds of those who hold them. When / if change
comes, it comes by displacement: the generation that holds them eventually dies
off and is replaced by scholars with other ideas. At least, that appears to be
the way it works in the sciences. In the softer disciplines, it might not be so simple,
since each generation struggles to reproduce its ideas in the one to come -- and
seldom lets the process be impeded by facts. Indeed, the Left is now armed with
a new weapon: the idea that there are no facts, that reality is a
"social construction," which could easily be made into whatever they
like, if enough people believed the right things. And on that note, I believe I will pull the covers over
my head and hope to awaken in a better time. Freedom, Wealth, and Peace, fporretto To: Sci
Fi Guy I assume that this paper is for undergrad work? I
had a college professor who just got his PhD say that you never never never
argue or disagree with the professors when you are going for a PhD. The key is
to choose a post grad program that you agree with. You are soooooo right. I have seen first hand how
outspoken PhD candidates are punished. After one "mis-statement", they
languish in the program for years, slaving away doing the professor's research,
not being credited in publications that steal their research ideas, their
dissertations constantly criticized. Finally, they pass the time limit and are
forced out of the program. I have seen more than one life ruined this way. EarlyBird
To: Roger I remember a funny moment where this moron from
Carnegie-Melon boasted about how he thinks Bush is dumb and it's true because
everyone at his school thinks the same thing. Bogey78O To: Roger The only way to get liberalism out of the media and
major universities is (note - edited by Roger -
violence was implied here).
College campuses are cesspools. Always
Right To: dubyagee I can just see the test: If x = thousands of dead Afghani civilians, and f(x) =
Tomahawk missile, and y = millions of $ spent by evil Republicans, and a = one
grandchild... real
saxophonist To: cartoonistx cx posted, "I disagree. The next generation of
college profs will tend to be even more extreme than this one. Although the
extreme they swing to may be National Socialism (NAZI), but of course they'll
call it something else." I'm in total agreement with you! Your timing is a
little off as the current 30 to 40 something group of professors are full blown
Neo Nazis. They believe that only with Federal and state socialism (i.e. Nazi)
can anything be done in this country! The past 8 years under X42 and his Nazi
Lesbo Jake Reno are proof of this! Just look at the hullabaloo re making the new Airport
Security people workers Federal Workers and of course Federal Union members.
Even the socialists in Europe abandon these programs of nationalizing their
Airport security programs as they could not fire the bad people. All of this
socialism comes from the evil left wing think tanks manned by socialists and the
Neo Nazis! National Health insurance, national free drugs for the
elderly, national educational programs for our schools are just a couple of
prime new National Socialist Programs that these left wing think tanks manned by
National Socialist Professors have come up with. All of these new Nazi Programs come from the Neo Nazi
Professors in our liberal universities who preach that nothing can be done
unless we raise taxes and turn all problems over to the National Socialists (New
Nazis). Gray Davis has stepped beyond the New Nazis, he is now
a neo Fascist who wants to control every business in California from the power
companies to those who use electricity! He is no different than Mussolini, and
he is the most dangerous demonicRat in power in America. We have seen worthless young men the ages of our sons
get degrees that are worthless, then get jobs as graduate students to get their
masters in that worthless degree, then become asst. professors while working on
their PhD's in that worthless degree. Now as mid 30 somethings, they are
professors spreading the National Socialism stuff to their students and hand
picking their graduate student helpers and future PhD asst. professors! I can
guarantee you that zero conservatives are in these future Professor OJT
programs. Each generation is even more liberal, more Nazi and becoming more of a
fascist like Davis! This has been going on since 1932 across America and in
the NE since WWI! We have tolerated it, ignored them and paid for their treason
with our tax $'s, tuition $'s for our children and donations as alumni to these
left wing viper nests! Grampa Dave To: Roger It's time to end, once and for all, the disgusting
tenure system. Who else has a lifetime job, except perhaps some federal judges? Tax
Government To: Roger I'm new here but I just wanted to say how much I agree
with you. dahlilaso
To: EarlyBird I have seen more than a few friends suffer for
attempting to beard lions in their dens. Being a generally sneaky and subversive
person, I would always find a desk with a good view of the other students and
watch their body language for signs of disagreement with the professor and then
waylay them after class for some impromptu tutoring of my own. They almost
always were relieved to know that someone else agreed with them. As for PhD programs and the future of our institutions,
I am heartened by what I see as a more moderate to conservative bent among the
candidates. While I admit, I attend one of the more conservative schools,
Mississippi State, I would say that 80% of the graduate students in our history
department are conservative. I think this is largely due to the fact that MSU is
more of an A&M institution rather than liberal arts. Regards, Flying E flying
Elvis To: Roger The Founding Fathers often resolved such disputes with
duels. These affairs were conducted according to strict rules. Sometimes one of
the parties to a duel died. Since dueling was a high risk business, people like
your professor there sought to avoid insults and behavior that would precipitate
a duel - particularly with a much younger man. Next time you need to pick a topic, look into the
history of dueling in America. Point out how the elimination of this practice
has resulted in the coarsening of behavior, particularly among the educated
classes. by muawiyah To: Roger It cracks me up when a school brags about how many
tenured professors they have. Its not something to brag about. culpeper To: dahlilaso Welcome, newbie! Always glad to have a new family
member--except if you are a commie, pinko, fascist pig, peacenik, love either
one or both clintons, or are glad that Geraldo is going to FNC. Just kidding,
welcome! In
mourning for six years To: flying
Elvis As for PhD programs and the future of our
institutions, I am heartened by what I see as a more moderate to conservative
bent among the candidates. While I admit, I attend one of the more conservative
schools, Mississippi State, I would say that 80% of the graduate students in our
history department are conservative. I think this is largely due to the fact
that MSU is more of an A&M institution rather than liberal arts. Regards,
Flying E I'm in a science department at my university. You
wouldn't think there'd be much political agitation surrounding quantum physics
or materials science, but there is. Everyone in the department is very liberal.
I don't even want to go into the happenings that took place there during the
2000 election crisis. Science faculty, moreover, have great power in
universities. They get the lucrative governmental research grants and bring in
millions of dollars to the university each year. A student complaint filed
against them is an exercise in futility. Thankfully, I am staff here, and not a student. My
undergraduate major is history, however, so I too am heartened to learn of the
conservative leanings at Mississippi State. Maybe I'll transfer there to finish
my 15-year program. ;) EarlyBird To: real
saxophonist If x = thousands of dead Afghani civilians, and f(x)
= Tomahawk missile, and y = millions of $ spent by evil Republicans, and a = one
grandchild... See, my conservative logic says: x(4 American planes used as weapons of mass
destruction) + Guess that's why I'm taking Algebra at this late age,
my logic has never added up to theirs....go figure.... dubyagee To: EarlyBird The faculty in the history department isn't very
conservative, but they are at least tolerant of conservatives which is more than
I can say about many schools. I too am from Georgia, but avoided UGA after
hearing horror stories from grad students about the hostility towards
conservatives by the history department faculty. flying
Elvis To: flying
Elvis Yeah, I was trying to finish my history degree at
Georgia State after serving for 5 years in the Army. Being an army brat to begin
with, I was disgusted with the rampant liberalism I found. Not only that, I was appalled at being accused of plagiarism
when I wrote some history papers. The faculty just couldn't believe any student
of theirs could write so well. That was the only basis for the accusation, I kid
you not. I had to produce my rough drafts to prove I had written my own papers. Oh, and how can I forget? One of my English composition
papers was stolen from the desk of the Polish exchange professor who was
teaching the course -- yes I know, how ridiculous for a Polish national to be
teaching English -- and appeared on the street for sale to other students.
Another student submitted it in the next quarter and, again, I had to produce my
rough drafts to prove I had written it. I quit the whole disgusting thing with only a quarter's
worth of credit left to go. I now have a good job to support my family, and am
educating myself -- an education, I might add, that will never end. EarlyBird
To: Roger You are a very brave young person in a tough situation.
I see that you have had other problems at SFSU. I wish the best for you.
Continue your fight and I will keep you in my prayers. austingirl To: Libertarianize
the GOP Eventually these Commie professors will die out and
be replaced by the next generation, which I believe will tend toward libertarian
ideas. WileyCoyote22
To: Roger Good luck fighting an uphill battle on campus.
You are a taking a leadership role, something your professors know little about
unless they equate leadership with intimidation. Joyce To: Roger Why are you taking Sociology? That was your first
mistake. "Social Science" is just an acceptable term for socialist
studies. Change your major to science, and you won't have
professors like this one. Well, on second thought, change your school too. giotto To: dubyagee I'm beginning to think it must be a job requirement
for college professors to be left-leaning..(snip)..THIS IS ALGEBRA FOR GOODNESS
SAKES. VOA To: EarlyBird You are soooooo right. I have seen first hand how
outspoken PhD candidates are punished. After one "mis-statement", they
languish in the program for years, slaving away doing the professor's research,
not being credited in publications that steal their research ideas, their
dissertations constantly criticized. Finally, they pass the time limit and are
forced out of the program. I have seen more than one life ruined this way. Just for comparison's sake, the old-line liberals I had
40 years ago, LOVED to get students to disagree with them and always treated
them(us) fairly. But these radicals are another story. RobbyS
To: Libertarianize
the GOP Does that mean they'll go to a big pro-illegal drug
agenda? A
CA Guy To: EarlyBird "Finally, they pass the time limit and are forced
out of the program. I have seen more than one life ruined this way. " Remember about 20 years ago there a PhD candidate who
kept getting the run around from his Prof.? This went on for years until one day
the guy took a hammer to his Prof.s' head. The Prof. died and the guy is no longer a PhD
candidate. Rebelbase To: Rebelbase As a matter of fact, one of these unfortunate souls,
who spends his time now cutting wood for a living in the delta of Arkansas,
returns to haunt the university every graduation day. This former student emails his former professor each
year to inform him of his graduation attendance plans. The campus police are
called and are informed of the impending threat by the frightened professor
(there are standing injunctions prohibiting this student from approaching said
professor). Upon his arrival on campus, the police surround the former student
and follow his every movement. He goes directly to the ceremonies and stands
motionless behind the crowd, waiting to see if his former professor is
sponsoring any graduates. At the appearance of the professor, the poor soul
narrows his eyes and stares with such effort at the professor that it is thought
that he is trying to cast a spell. After the ceremony, he politely thanks the police and
departs peaceably. EarlyBird To: dubyagee According to you, and many other unthinking FReepers,
including apparently the author and the poster, all people of a given title are
exactly the same: e.g., All professors are leftists. You couldn't be more wrong. My request to you: Don't let PC have its right-wing
version; try some critical thinking instead. Rudder To: Rudder I have as of yet to take a class from a conservative
professor who wasn't fair to students who disagreed with them. The only
hostility I have encountered came from leftist professors belittling students
who dared to have already formed an opinion before entering their classrooms. flying
Elvis To: flying
Elvis At least you acknowledge that all professors are not
leftists. I think that professors, like the rest of the USA, come in many
different political persuasions. Rudder To: Always
Right Did you say (note - Roger
removed the link)? xm177e2 To: Roger tenured commies should all be put in the public stocks
and a barrel of rotten tomatoes supplied for public ammo!! where are you joe mccarthy, now that we need you? I'm sure mike savage will comment on this at some time
or other. he just 'LOVES' to rip the 'ginsburg-ferlinghetti' types! rockfish59 To: muawiyah The Founding Fathers often resolved such disputes
with duels All for it, being a long-time fan of the Aaron Burr
Dueling Society. Madame
Dufarge To: Roger I spent 7-1/2 years in college and universities. I
think the big change to liberalism started about 1968. Also, pure science chemistry classes started being
dominated by Orientals in about 1972 and you could not understand the T.A.s.
They never could say molecular configuration where anyone could understand them.
I am still ticked about that one. Rogmonster To: Rudder According to you, and many other unthinking
FReepers, including apparently the author and the poster, all people of a given
title are exactly the same: e.g., All professors are leftists. I am in an ALGEBRA class. My teacher is supposed to be
teaching ALGEBRA. The comments he's made in class regarding politics are
completely unnecessary. The comments also show he leans to the left. This is my
FIRST college course and I'm already encountering the indoctrination that our
"fresh out of high school" kids are exposed to. I am not UNTHINKING. I'm quite certain there are some
neutral professors out there. But I'm also certain they are FEW and far
between.... dubyagee To: Rebelbase "Remember about 20 years ago there a PhD
candidate who kept getting the run around from his Prof.? This went on for years
until one day the guy took a hammer to his Prof.s' head." I sure do remember that. So it wasn't just some Liberal Arts whacko majoring in
"Basket Weaving" flipping-out to the Maxwell's Silver Hammer
theme. Landru To: dubyagee Stick around and you'll meet some of us conservatives
as well. Rudder To: Roger Your move is to get out of there ASAP with a degree.
There's no point fighting with these fossils. It's okay to take some of this
stuff (sociology, etc.) at the undergraduate level if you are just looking for
easy marks to get into law school or something. You absolutely don't want to go
anywhere near this stuff at the graduate school level. BTW, in the essay The Killings in Trinidad V.S.
Naipaul describes how Michael De Freitas, a Black Power ideologue, was
imprisoned under the British Race Relations Act in about 1968 or so. He had
given a fire-breathing speech about protecting the black woman by killing the
white man. The speech was given to a crowd of white liberals - a radical chic
moment, which Naipaul described as "a bit of harmless cabaret" given
because the black radical "was expected to perform". You can probably
find it published as a paperback under the title The Return of Eva Peron and
The Killings in Trinidad. Your professor sounds like a typical toe tag
leftist, but he might actually turn out to be right about "hate
crimes" law. In the future they might be applied against blacks who attack
others. TheMole To: Rudder I plan to. My children won't be very far behind me.
I've already rejected the left's indoctrination one time. My hope is my children
will do the same.... dubyagee To: austingirl We need to encourage this. College students naturally
want to rebel against authority. Since most universities are now run by tyrannical
leftists, there is a potential for conscientious students to fight the leftist doctrine
cheating them out of a dignified future. The only difficulty is that they have had 12+ years of
liberal indoctrination prior to reaching college. Therefore, home schooling is
the only hope of producing our future leaders. anymouse To: You have a lot of guts going against liberalism in college. God bless you.
Please keep us in touch about every problem you get into. Your education is in
danger. It's not right. But you will find a lot of support here. So never give
up contacting us. Every scar you bear will provide you with more support. And
perhaps you would be better off at Liberty University when it's all over. Just a
thought. You can even get degrees online. Arthur Wildfire! March To: muawiyah Next time you need to pick a topic, look into the history of dueling in America. Point out how the elimination of this practice has resulted in the coarsening of behavior, particularly among the educated classes. Good point. I remember a few years ago, can't recall where, a doctoral
candidate finally got fed up with the way he was abused and trivialized by his
advisor. He murdered the s.o.b. But his action was not considered
"honorable" like duels used to be. He's languishing in prison
somewhere right now. Bernard Marx To: On the first or second day of class he told us about a student's paper that dealt with a pro-child sex agenda. And he frequently brings the letter up. I get the impression he does not say
anything in disagreement with that letter. A closet pedophile perhaps. Arthur Wildfire! March To: TheMole The problem is that agreeing with them, even if it's only to escape with a degree, is habit forming. Besides, once you compromise your intellectual integrity, you're no better than they are. Far better to implement a free market solution and find an institution that
actually believes in and supports freedom of thought. Do we need new metrics to
evaluate colleges? Perhaps the Wall Street Journal or the National Review would
like to carve off a piece of the university review business... 5by5 To: fporretto; Roger "Indeed, the Left is now armed with a new weapon: the idea that there are NO facts, that reality is "social construction"... LOL -- good way to put it...OR what we have here are asylum refugees masquerading as "teachers," with a license to lobotomize the flower of our youth. Dr. Busacca is no more a Professor than Hannibal Lechter is a Brain Surgeon.
Same result though... F16Fighter
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