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| By Dead Fred 26 October 05 Shoot to kill is a real problem if you've been shot! A real problem for you and your family and friends. Provisions in relation to use of force in s105.23 raise serious concerns. In particular subsection 105.23(2) specifically contemplates the use of lethal force against a detainee where an AFP member believes on reasonable grounds that this is necessary to protect life or to prevent serious injury to another person. It appears that this section is an attempt to broaden the scope of self-defence under the common law, by removing the need for an immediate threat to life, and has echoes of the "shoot to kill" policy in the United Kingdom, which led to the fatal shooting by police of innocent commuter Jean Charles de Menezes in July 2005. In our view this provision goes beyond the proportionate common law protection for self-defence and is likely to breach article 6 of the ICCPR which protects the right to life. -(ANU) Australian National University Canberra-. Of course, it is about them having more control, more buttons to press on the console of their dictatorship. The latest laws in NSW carry 5 years for being cruel to an animal. But even when I was a kid animals were flushed down the toilet because minors had not learnt how to treat animals. Adults scared them away by throwing crackers at them. I don't agree with killing animals either but 5 years seems a little harsh when animals are run over in the street or put to sleep everyday of the week. Of course being put to sleep would be more acceptable than being tortured and no one would argue that it is not necessary to have some form of sanction or penalty. But the difference between a dead cat and a dead human being who perhaps dies from the incarceration either by an accident, argument, brutality, rape or even by suicide in a prison hardly makes any sense at all. If a person went to prison for five years the odds that they would make it through to the end and get out of prison are extremely reduced by the longer a person is incarcerated. On the bottom of the survival level they run a greater risk trying to survive a prison experience. I wonder how proud people would be to save the cat at the cost of a human being? I love cats don't get me wrong. But one must see that a human being is of a higher level than the meandering cat. To get away from that look into the crystal ball and see the ever-increasing laws compounded by ever increasing prison building. It's the same thing. Shoot to-kill was a diversion of a third kind. If it would be defeated what the heck, the dictators would still be running away with the ball, bat, stumps and the rules of the game. So it's not cricket! Related: |
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| SM Herald Poll flawed By Propaganda Monster 25 October 05 SM Herald: "According to the latest Herald Poll, about three-quarters of voters think it is OK to lock up suspected terrorists without charge, put them under house arrest or shackle them with tracking devices." Yeah, their voters! I wonder if they asked themselves if it were all right for them to be suspected and treated like that? And that was the dribble coming from the government dictators all along. Who reads the herald? or votes there? Not me! So how can they make such a claim? Flawed! Do they take it that they themselves are immune from seditious prosecution? Or is selling news more important than civil liberties! Related: |
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| Anti-terrorism laws draw rights watchdog's ire | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| New anti-terror laws and the Muslim community | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Anti-Terrorism Bill details draconian police-state plans By Mike Head posted 26 October 05 First and foremost, the legislation provides for extensive detention without charge or trial, on the flimsiest of pretexts. With no notice or legal hearing, any person can be thrown into secret "preventative detention" or placed, by a "control order," in isolation under house arrest. Any application made by such a person to a court to overturn the internment could take weeks, if not months, effectively giving the federal government (and the state and territory governments, which have pledged to pass matching legislation) unchecked powers. In order to evade the Constitution, which bars the federal government from imposing "punishment" on Australian citizens without trial, preventative detention by the Australian Federal Police (AFP) will be limited to 48 hours, but the states and territories have agreed to extend this to 14 days for their respective police forces. Moreover, the AFP can hand its prisoners over to the Australian Security Intelligence Organisation (ASIO) for up to a week of detention and interrogation, under the powers granted to ASIO in 2003. In addition, there is nothing to prevent continuously repeated detentions, provided that the authorities allege they are necessary to thwart a new terrorist threat. To obtain a preventative detention order from an "issuing authority" (a specially appointed judge or magistrate), all that the AFP has to allege is that the person is "reasonably suspected" of intending to engage in a terrorist act or possesses something connected with the preparation of such an act. Those detained cannot inform anyone--'except a lawyer--'of their incarceration. They can contact a family member or employer, but only to report that they are "safe". If they or their lawyer, or a family member, or anyone else, discloses that they have been locked up, the penalty is five years jail. All conversations, including with their lawyer, are monitored, violating the principle of lawyer-client confidentiality. "Prohibited contact orders" can also prohibit contact with their own lawyer, and the police can prevent them from speaking to any lawyer who does not have an ASIO security clearance. Detainees aged 16 to 18 can speak to their parent or guardian, but only for two hours a day. Deadly force can be used to break into houses to drag someone away for detention. The Bill authorizes police to use lethal force to stop someone "fleeing" custody, if they deem it necessary to prevent serious injury to another person. The police are only obliged to call on the person to "surrender" ("if practicable") before opening fire. This specifically allows for the "shoot-to-kill" policy used in the gunning down of an innocent Brazilian immigrant worker, Jean Charles de Menezes, by British police in a London subway carriage last July. Like Menezes, the person "fleeing" may not even know that their pursuers are police officers. "Control orders" go even further than detention. They can last even longer--'up to 12 months--'with provision for successive orders. They can range from full house arrest to imposition of tracking devices and bans on contact with nominated, or all, people. In effect, the victims can be barred from working, publicly campaigning against their internment or communicating with their associates. They can also be blocked from contacting any lawyer who has been "specified" as a prohibited contact person. A breach of these conditions also brings five years jail. An order can be imposed on the vaguest possible grounds, such as that it would "substantially assist in preventing a terrorist act". The peak legal body, the Law Council of Australia, has pointed out that detention and control orders could easily be used to round up people to prevent planned anti-war or anti-corporate demonstrations, like the protests in recent years against gatherings of politicians or corporate executives. The scope for political repression is great, because "terrorism" is defined so broadly that it can cover many traditional forms of protest, such as blockading a building in pursuit of a political cause. Sedition and "advocacy" None of these powers has anything to do with fighting terrorism. In fact, the Howard government itself has played a key role in inflaming the threat of terrorism by its support for and participation in the invasions of Afghanistan and Iraq. The underlying motivation behind the legislation is revealed in its criminalization of a wide range of political free speech. Under the Bill, it will, for the first time, be a crime for an organization to "advocate" terrorism, which includes "directly or indirectly counseling or urging" a terrorist act and "directly praising" terrorism. The Attorney-General (currently Philip Ruddock) can use this power to unilaterally ban any group as a "terrorist organization," thus exposing all its members, supporters and financial donors to years of imprisonment. The provision can extend to outlawing political parties and publications that express any sympathy for, or even call for an understanding of, the causes of terrorist actions. Secondly, the Bill dramatically expands the scope of sedition, and more than doubles the punishment, from three to seven years imprisonment. Sedition will include "urging disaffection" against the Constitution, the government or either house of parliament. Previously, the law referred to "exciting disaffection," which indicates active agitation, rather than political argument. Sedition will also include promoting "feelings of ill-will or hostility between different groups" or urging conduct that is intended to assist an "organization or country engaged in armed hostilities" against the Australian military. If applied during the Vietnam War, the latter clause would have seen people charged for raising the slogan "Victory to the NLF". Today, it could be used to jail anyone supporting the right of the Iraqi people to resist the criminal US-led occupation of their country. The Bill also imposes life imprisonment for "recklessly" giving funds to a person or group that could be used for terrorism, even if no terrorist act occurs or the funds are not used for a specific act. This measure could be used against anyone who donates to a religious, political or humanitarian cause that is later accused of links to terrorism. Vast police powers The Bill extends to the police wide-ranging powers to stop, interrogate and search people in public places, and to seize items. The government can also declare "prescribed security zones," in which police can exercise these powers without having to allege any specific connection to a planned terrorist act. Magistrates can order people, including lawyers, to hand over documents and records, overriding all existing protections of confidentiality, lawyer-client privilege and incrimination of a person. Secret surveillance cameras can be installed in airports and aircraft, and airline and shipping company passenger details can be seized, as can the customer records of financial institutions. ASIO's powers to secretly enter premises and access computers and other equipment will be strengthened. Overall, the Bill dramatically extends the previously unimaginable powers already handed to the government and its security agencies in the 26 "counter-terrorism" Acts adopted since 2001. Prime Minister Howard has made clear that whatever fine-tuning is performed on the Bill before it is introduced into parliament on November 1; none of its essential features will alter. Despite an outcry from members of the public, civil liberties groups and legal bodies over the totalitarian measures contained within it, Howard declared on Monday that it would not be watered down. "What is going to be in that legislation is what I announced and what the states agreed to [on September 27]... no more and no less." Howard also unveiled a dramatic increase in the size of ASIO, doubling its staffing levels from 980 to 1860 by 2010-11. This will far exceed the levels reached in the 1980s, toward the end of the Cold War, when the spy agency employed a record 760 personnel. Already the organization's size and budget have almost doubled since the September 11 terrorist attacks in the United States, with its numbers boosted from 584 in 2001 and a budget rising to $171.7 million in 2005-06. Throughout the Cold War and the Vietnam War, ASIO had a notorious record of spying, harassment and dirty tricks directed against government opponents and critics, including socialists, trade unionists, journalists and "suspect" public servants. The "war on terrorism" is now being utilised to extend the political policing powers of the state machinery far further, explicitly trampling over fundamental civil liberties and legal rights previously regarded as sacrosanct. Ð World Socialist Web Site Ð Comment: By 1984 The lie can be maintained only for such time as the State can shield the people from the political, economic and/or military consequences of the lie. It thus becomes vitally important for the State to use all of its powers to repress dissent, for the truth is the mortal enemy of the lie, and thus by extension, the truth becomes the greatest enemy of the State. Dr. Joseph M. Goebbels, Nazi Minister of Propaganda Related: |
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| Anti-terrorism laws put rights at risk: Fraser | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| When Terrorism Outlaws Democracy | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| They know where you live | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Spots and Stripes | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| It's not the terrorists' it's us | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Evans: moderate threat | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Democrat Will Oppose Anti-Terrorism Laws | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Mein Kampf by John Howard | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Hey War Spender | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Tell Your State Premier: Don't Do Ruddock's Dirty Work | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Anyone and everyone is a target | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| SOLD OUT! | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Stop The Police State | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| SINGAPORE TO EXECUTE AUSTRALIAN MAN SOON | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| No Murder Weapon, No Body, No Place or Time of Death | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Unfaithful Lees admits taking drugs, court told | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| 'Help victims before more die' | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Death toll in Pakistan quake up to 54,000 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Clarke faces a fight over probation overhaul | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| It's up to you! | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| ACOSS urges national anti-poverty plan | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Devastating quake kills 20,000 in Pakistan and India | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Question Everything: Worry, be alert and alarmed! | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| The prison industry in the US: big business or a new form of slavery? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Hitler, what a legend! | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Cop Watch - drugs in the force | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Cops on Drugs | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| "TIME TO MOVE ON" - NO JUSTICE FOR TJ | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| A copper's lot may not be happy, but it is certainly well paid... | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Victorian cops the most corrupt in Australia | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Assaulted, intimidated or harassed in custody? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Cop Watch No. 3 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| World races clock to help quake victims | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Nuclear Power PR campaign debunked by report | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Iran helps kill our soldiers: Britain... yeah right ! | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Iraq's constitutional referendum makes a mockery of democracy | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Embrace nuclear weapons: The Un-Australian? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Mercy for murderers | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| "Bomb season" in Bali -- Breaking news | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Italy need passport to internet /PH/FX | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Avian Flu hyped for profits? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| Exporting the death penalty - Bali 9 | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| New rules in Goulburn prison | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
| WHAT HAPPENED TO STEPHEN? | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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| Cindy Sheehan Arrested Outside the WhiteHouse | |||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||||
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