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May 28, 2003
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TungSoft:
Chao Thay
jptliem:
Tung oi. Chao con. Con moi cac ban vao giup thay, vi vao noi ID nay thay khong
con ID cua cac ban nua de moi.
TungSoft:
da, nhung .. sao gio ma cung chua co ai
jptliem:
Vay ha?
jptliem:
cho cac ban chut vay.
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jptliem:
chao Hung.
jptliem:
Chao ThienTan.
hungductruong:
con chao thay va cac ban
jptliem:
Thay xin loi hom nay da moi voi ten nay, vi bi truc trac voi ten kia.
jptliem:
Do co do khong Hung?
hungductruong:
hom nay khong co Do ma co mot ban moi a
hungductruong:
ban ay ten la Ai dang hoc cong doan cung que voi con
jptliem:
ban do co ID chua, noi de thay moi ban do vao.
hungductruong:
hom nay Ai chi muon chung kien chia se thoi thay a.
ddthientan:
Chao moi nguoi!
jptliem:
tot lam, vay de ban coi nhe.
jptliem:
ThienTan dang o dau the
ddthientan:
Cung chua biet thay !
hungductruong:
tuan nay de tai chia se van nhu tuan truoc co phai khong a.
ddthientan:
Da con dang o Vietnam
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toantri2001:
xin chao
TungSoft:
Chao ToanTri' nhe'
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toantri2001:
Xin Hoi co phai thay Liem do khong a!
jptliem:
Chao Thoa, chao ToanTri, chao annanhat.
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vandienth:
chao tat ca cac ban
jptliem:
dung roi.
vandienth:
uh
toantri2001:
con la cuu sinh vien o nhom Da Nang
truongdathoa:
Xin chao thay va cac anh chi
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jptliem:
chao annanhat nhe.
toantri2001:
Con duoc chi Xuan va thay Thom gioi thieu
annanhat:
Con xin chao Thay va cac anh chi
jptliem:
Xin chao.
annanhat:
Thay va cac anh chi co khoe ko ?
jptliem:
Khoe.... chung ta bat dau duoc chua nhi?
annanhat:
da chac la duoc
jptliem:
Bay gio thay caunguyen bat dau nhe, sau khi cau nguyen thi se toi muc gioi
thieu ..... va sau do chia se.
jptliem:
Lay Chua, chung con tin Chua dang hien dien voi chung con.
annanhat:
vang a !
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jptliem:
Xin Chua ban ThanhThan, de Ngai huong dan chung con trong gio chia se nay, cho
chung con hieu hon ve Chua va ve con nguoi, cho chung con duoc gan nhau hon....
jptliem:
Chung con cau xin, nho duc Yesu Kito Chua chung con. Amen.
TungSoft:
Amen
annanhat:
Amen
truongdathoa:
Amen!
toantri2001:
amen
visaouoc:
xin Chua nhan loi chung con
hungductruong:
Amen
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jptliem:
Thay xin loi vi bi out, bay gio toi muc cac ban gioi thieu nhe. Xin gioi thieu
ten ho, hien dang o dau... va muon noi them gi thi cu tu nhien, muon hoi ai
cung cu tu nhien... chung ta co 5 phut de lam muc nay.
jptliem:
Chao BPhuong, bay gio toi muc gioi thieu do.
toantri2001:
Cho minh xin tu gioi thieu truoc nhe
jptliem:
Xin moi tat ca bat dau gioi thieu di....
jptliem:
khong can ai cho ai dau, moi nguoi deu viet va cho len nhe. Moi toantri nhe.
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phuongtruongter:
chao moi nguoi !
toantri2001:
con biet den phong chia se nay qua chi Xuan va thay Thom
phuongtruongter:
song o Nha Trang
TungSoft:
TranThanhTung, 1979, di lam, o Q3 TpHCM
jptliem:
Xin Toan gioi thieu ten ho, va dang o dau di....
hungductruong:
chao thay va moi nguoi minh la Hung tu HN
toantri2001:
Hien o Tai Da nang
visaouoc:
Truong - QNhon
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toantri2001:
Con da di lam
annanhat:
truong thi minh Nhat - 1977 - Cam Ranh - giao vien
jptliem:
Moi Thoa gioi thieu .... Ca ThienTan nua... va AnnaNhat.. xin moi tu nhien.
jptliem:
Cam on MinhNhat nhe.
annanhat:
cam on thay
phuongtruongter:
Chao Annanhat, nguoi dong huong!
truongdathoa:
Truong thi da Thoa-1978-Cam Ranh...
vominhthu:
Chao Thay va cac ban
jptliem:
Moi MinhThu gioi thieu...
annanhat:
uh , Phuong va minh la dong huong
vominhthu:
Vo~ Minh Thu*, 1979, hien o Qui Nhon
phuongtruongter:
u
phuongtruongter:
dong huong lan ca khoi' !
jptliem:
Hien tai chung ta thay co nguoi o Hanoi, o Danang, o Quynhon, o Nhatrang, o
Camranh, o Saigon....
annanhat:
Phuong noi sao ?
toantri2001:
con khong phong chia se that phong phu
annanhat:
Phuong co the noi ro ti duoc ko ?
jptliem:
Khong biet ThienTan dang o dau day?
annanhat:
Phuong biet Nhat ho ?
jptliem:
bay gio chung ta bat dau nhe.... xin Tung giup thay cho cau hoi len nhe.
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toantri2001:
Chao Xuan
TungSoft:
oh, chi Xuan vao ru`i
truongdathoa:
Chao chi Xuan!
TungSoft:
gioi thieu di chi oi
TungSoft:
hihi...
annanhat:
Chao chi Xuan !
TungSoft:
va nhat la gioi thieu chi Xuan dang o dau nhe'
TungSoft:
Cac ban men, vi tuan truoc chua co gio chia se cau 3, nen cac cau hoi cua tuan
nay se
:
1.
Dau la diem khac biet nen tang giua Kito giao va cac ton giao khac?
2.
Dau la diem khac biet nen tang giua Cong Giao va cac ton giao Kito khac (Chinh
ong
giao, Tin Lanh, Anh giao)?
jptliem:
Cau hoi doc de dang o trang web http://www.jptlsj.net/detai.htm
chi can click vao la doc duoc, nhung Tung moi cho cau hoi len giup chung ta roi.
the cung du roi
TungSoft:
Cac ban men, vi tuan truoc chua co gio chia se cau 3, nen cac cau hoi cua tuan
nay se la:
1.
Dau la diem khac biet nen tang giua Kito giao va cac ton giao khac?
2.
Dau la diem khac biet nen tang giua Cong Giao va cac ton giao Kito khac (Chinh
Thong giao, Tin Lanh, Anh giao)?
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jptliem:
Lan truoc chung ta da trao doi ve cau hoi: Dang Tuyet Doi noi cac ton giao khac
ton tho, co cung la Thien Chua ma nguoi kitohuu ton tho khong?
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annanhat:
Xin thay va Tung co the noi them ve Chinh thong giao va Anh giao de con co the
hieu ro , duoc ko a ?
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jptliem:
Neu Dang Tuyet Doi ma nguoi ta ton tho KHONG LA MOT thi co MAY Dang Tuyet Doi,
va gia nhu co may dang tuyet doi, thi DANG lon nhat tuyet nhat moi la tuyet doi
that. Vay nhung nguoi trong cac ton giao khac tho Dang Tuyet Nhat, Thien Chua
cua Kito huu cung la Dang Tuyet Nhat, vay phai chang la mot.
toantri2001:
con nghi nhu vay
jptliem:
Va neu cac ton giao (thay noi tong quat hoa) deu ton tho Dang Tuyet Doi, thi
tai sao Dang do lai duoc goi bang nhung ten khac nhau vay, lai duoc ton tho
bang nhung hinh thuc khac nhau vay?
jptliem:
Va noi cho ro hon: cac ton giao do KHAC kitogiao CHINH YEU o diem nao?
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jptliem:
MinhNhat oi, thay se noi ve dieu do o cau 2, bay gio cac ban chia se cau thu 1
di.
phamthanhxuan75:
bo luon do be
truongdathoa:
xin thay giai thich them gium con the nao la Chinh Thong Giao?Anh Giao?con chua
phan biet duoc.Xin cam on!
annanhat:
da !
jptliem:
Theo ban dau la diem khac biet nen tang giua kito giao (conggiao, chinhthong
giao, Tinlanh, Anhgiao) va cac ton giao khong phai la kito (Dothai giao, Hoi
giao, Ando giao, Phat giao, Cao Dai, ...)?
vominhthu:
theo con thi` Dang Tuyet Doi ma cac ton giao ton tho, cho du khac nhau ve cach
goi thi` cung chi la mot thoi
jptliem:
ChinhThong giao va Anh giao tin Duc Yesu la Thien Chua nhu Conggiao vay. nhung
day la cau 2 ma.... Thoa va MinhNhat.
vominhthu:
co`n Kito giao khac cac ton giao khac la` Kito giao tin va`o Duc Kito
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vominhthu:
vi` ngay chi'nh ten goi "Kito gia'o" cung da noi len dieu do' roi
annanhat:
gio con hieu roi a !
annanhat:
xin thay thong cam
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jptliem:
Xin moi tat ca chia se y kien cua minh... khong can cho nghe nguoi khac dau..
cu viet cau tra loi cua minh len....
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jptliem:
Moi Hung o Hanoi, Truong o Quynhon, v.v.....
annanhat:
theo con nghi thi do chang qua la mot quy uoc
annanhat:
Vi du : con va Thoa , ..... cung nhieu ban khac thich mot laoi hoa nhung ko
biet no ten gi
annanhat:
va cung thong nhat voi nhau goi no la hoa Q
annanhat:
nhung nhung nguoi khac cung thay no va cung thich no va goi no bang mot cai ten
khac
jptliem:
Moi ToanTri cho y kien nhe.
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vominhthu:
khong han vay dau Minh Nhat... cung phai co' mot co so na`o do' de dat ten goi,
nhat la` ve ton gia'o
hungductruong:
toi dong y voi thu.
jptliem:
Thay viet lai cau hoi nhe... dau la diem khac biet nen tang, can ban, chinh yeu
giua kitogiao va cac ton giao khac (khong kito)?
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visaouoc:
theo con nghi khac nhau co ban bieu hien qua2 dieu:nhung dieu tin li(la nhung
dieu phai tin) va luon ly(nhung dieu phai giu)
jptliem:
Cac ton giao kito la Cong giao, Chinhthong giao, Tin Lanh, Anh giao.
vominhthu:
Kito gia'o tin va`o Du'c Kito la` Thien Chu'a, co`n ca'c ton gia'o kha'c thi`
khong
annanhat:
nhu vay khac biet chu yeu chinh la Dang ma ho tin va tho
jptliem:
Cac ton giao khac (hieu la khog kito) la Ando giao, Dothai giao, Phat giao, Hoi
giao, Caodai, .....
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TungSoft:
chao Phong
trangsang02:
chao moi nguoi
trangsang02:
chao Tung
jptliem:
Chao Thuy va TrangSang. cac ban khac dang chia se cau hoi: dau la diem khac
biet nen tang giua kito giao va cac ton giao khac... xin moi hai ban chia se
nhe.
jptliem:
Cac ban nen dua y kien cua cac ban len... thi cuoc chia se moi thay soi
dong.... xin moi.
jptliem:
Moi Kham.
jptliem:
Moi Tung tra loi di....
jptliem:
Hung con do khong? xin moi tra loi.
visaouoc:
kito giao va cac ton giao khac nhau, diem co ban la:kitogiao deu ton tho Chua
KI to, con cac ton giao khac tho dang sang lap ra cac ton giao do, nhu phat
giao(tho phat To nhu lai..)
TungSoft:
Theo Tung thi dao CongGiao chung ta co diem kha'c biet nen tang do' chinh la
co' Chu'a Yesu nhap the lam nguoi va da hy sinh mang song minh vi tinh yeu de
cuu chuoc nhan loai!
truongdathoa:
Nhu chung ta da noi,tat ca chi tho mot dang duy nhat. Nhung con nghi diem khac
biet giua Ki To giao va cac ton giao khac la con duong de den voi dang duy
nhat. Mot ton giao co mot con duong di rieng vi the hinh thanh nen tang giao ly
rieng
jptliem:
Cac ton giao khac ho cung dau co ton tho dang lap ra ton giao do dau, Truong,
chang han dao Phat ho cho rang moi nguoi cung se la Phat, duc Phat la Phat da
thanh thoi, con ho la Phat dang thanh (se thanh, se thanh Phat); Hoi giao khong
ton tho Mahomet ma ton tho Thien Chua cua Abraham...
jptliem:
Doi voi nguoi Hoi giao, Mahomet la tien tri cua Thien Chua, la tien tri lon hon
duc Yesu nua.
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jptliem:
Doi khi thay khong noi ro rang ve dao Phat, vi dao Phat nhu nguoi binh dan hieu
thi khac, ma duong nhu theo nguoi tri thuc hieu thi khac...
visaouoc:
vay ha thay?
visaouoc:
con hieu y thay,
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jptliem:
Dung nhu da so noi.... kitogiao khac cac ton giao khac o diem nen tang: kito
giao tin duc Yesu Nazaret la Dang Thien Chua sai den, va la Thien Chua nhap
the. Nguoi kito giao tin duc Yesu la Thien Chua nhap the.
jptliem:
Tin mot con nguoi (Yesu) la Thien Chua.
jptliem:
Dao Dothai tin co Thien Chua, nhung khong chap nhan duc Yesu la TC nhap the.
jptliem:
Dao Hoi tin va ton tho Thien Chua cua Abraham, nhung coi tien tri Mahomet con
lon hon tien tri Yesu nua. Ho cung coi duc Yesu la mot tien tri, nhung mot tien
tri "be" thoi.
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hungductruong:
neu gia su thien chua nhap the ma khong song lai thi the nao a?
jptliem:
Dao Ando cung tin DangTuyet Doi, va Dang tuyet doi cung hoa than lam ... noi
dieu nay dieu kia, nhung khi con vat do chet thi... thoi, Tuyet Doi van la
Tuyet Doi.
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jptliem:
Kito giao (gom ca Conggiao, Chinh Thong giao, Anh Giao, Tin Lanh) deu tin duc
Yesu Nazaret, Dang chet thoi Philato do, la Thien Chua, la Thien Chua nhap the;
va bay gio duc Yesu van la Thien Chua..... lam nguoi.
vominhthu:
"Neu Du'c Kito khong song lai thi` du'c tin cua chu'ng ta la` mot chuyen
ha~o huyen", cau na`y theo thu cua tha'nh Tong do gi` Thu quen mat tieu...
jptliem:
Bay gio moi thay Hung len tieng, nhung... hoi dieu gia su thi.... vo cung.. vi
no co la su that dau... noi cho toi bao gio moi het...
jptliem:
Neu duc Yesu khong song lai, dau co ai biet NGAI la Thien Chua nhap the.
visaouoc:
vay do thai giao,hoi giao.. sao khong thuoc ki to giao ha thay? vi cung tin
Thien Chua
annanhat:
neu ko co kha nang song lai thi cung ko co kha nang nhap the
jptliem:
Co ban nao co cau TRA LOI cho cau hoi thu nhat, xin moi... cho len nhe
jptliem:
Va neu ai co cau hoi lien quan den cau hoi thu nhat, nhu Hung vua gio do, thi
cu cho len nhe, de cac ban hoac thay co the tra loi cung voi cac ban....
vominhthu:
ho tin va`o Thien Chua nhung ho khong tin va`o Du'c Kito Truo`ng a.
jptliem:
Neu khong co ai hoi, chung ta se chuyen qua cau hoi thu 2 nhe. Khi bat dau cau
thu 2, ai chua viet kip ma muon tro lai cauthu 1 thi cu viec cho len nhe.
jptliem:
Nho Tung cho cau thu 2 len lai giup thay di.
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TungSoft:
2. Dau la diem khac biet nen tang giua Cong Giao va cac ton giao Kito khac
(Chinh Thong giao, Tin Lanh, Anh giao)?
hungductruong:
anh nhat oi su nhap the co giong su hinh thanh cua cactien tri thoi cuu ouc
khong?
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jptliem:
Dau tien cac ban can biet khi noi kitogiao, la ham chua tat ca cac ton giao tin
Duc Yesu la Thien Chua nhap the, va cac ton giao sau day deu tin dieu do:
Conggiao, Chinhthong giao, Tin Lanh (Tin lanh co nhieu he phai, nhu CoDoc Phuc
Lam, Ngu Tuan, v.v....), Anh giao.
vominhthu:
cau nay hoi kho' Thay a, vi` chu'ng con khong ra`nh lam ve cac ton gia'o Kito
khac ngoa`i Cong gia'o
jptliem:
Cau hoi thu hai nam o cho: cung la kito giao ca, cung la nhung ton giao tin duc
Yesu la TC nhap the ca, vay diem khac biet nen tang giua Cong giao va cac ton
giao kito khac la gi?
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jptliem:
Sao thay khong thay ToanTri len tieng nhi?
jptliem:
Xin moi cac ban.... chia se.
luongduyen0205:
Xin chao thay va chao anh em
vominhthu:
Thay cho con hoi Tin la`nh ho co' tin va`o Bi' ti'ch Tha'nh The nhu COng gia'o
ta khong a?
toantri2001:
con khong biet ro ve su khac biet giua cac ton giao cho lam
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jptliem:
Tuy giao phai, MinhThu a.
truongdathoa:
con cung vay nen kho chia se duoc!
annanhat:
con cung dong y voi Thu va Toan
visaouoc:
Co phai vi cong giao tin Duc Me dong Trinh, tin cac thanh thong cong...con cac
ton giao khac thi ko tin nhu vay!
jptliem:
Vay cau hoi co the nho hon nhung cung la mot: dau la diem khac biet nen tang
giua Conggiao va TinLanh?
toantri2001:
neu duoc de nghi thay neu su khac biet giua cac ton giao de chung con de nhan
xet va tranh luan?????
vominhthu:
theo con biet thi` su kha'c biet co ban la` niem tin ve Du'c Me Dong Trinh
annanhat:
Thua thay co phai la cong giao tin duc me dong trinh con tin lanh thi ko ?
jptliem:
The nao la DucMe DongTrinh?
vominhthu:
Tin la`nh thi` co`n co' chu't chu't de chia se, chu' Chi'nh thong gia'o thi`
tui cong .....khong biet gi` ca a
vominhthu:
chi biet duoc ....ca'i ten thoi
annanhat:
vi duc me thu thai ko theo kieu cua con nguoi
jptliem:
Chu "dongtrinh" duoc hieu nhu the nao? Khong can dan ong ma sinh con?
Hay "khong rach mang trinh" khi sinh con?
annanhat:
theo con do la ko can dan ong ma van sinh con
truongdathoa:
La ko phai sinh chua Giesu nho on Duc Chua Thanh Than-Co phai vay ko a?
jptliem:
Theo cac em hieu nhu the nao? Cac em co dong y voi MinhNhat khong?
hungductruong:
chinh yeu de hoan thanh cong trinh cuu chuoc nhan loai la chua cha dem con mot
cua minh xuong tran gian chuoc toi cho thien ha va sau 3ngay ngai soong lai va
la dieu khac han voi cac kito giao khac
jptliem:
thay chua hieu cau cua Thoa, xin viet lai di.
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hungductruong:
cung voi minh tin duc me dong trinh nhung cac kitogiao khac khongtin v.
visaouoc:
theo qniem cua cac ton giao khac: da co con thi ko the dong trinh duoc, nhung
cong giao chung ta tin duc me dong trinh, vi viec Duc me mang thai la quyen
nang boi Chua Thanh than..Thay va cac anh chi nghi sao?
bluedoisao:
thua thay em co y kien duoc khong a
jptliem:
Hung viet dieu gi thay khong hieu? Hung tra loi cau nao vay? cho thay va cac
ban biet di.
jptliem:
cu noi di Huyen.
bluedoisao:
theo con thi dao
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bluedoisao:
thien chua khac voi dao khac la chinh duc gie su
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bluedoisao:
chua co dao nao co mot minh chung xac thuc bang chua giesu ca
jptliem:
Mot so ban cho rang Conggiao va Tin Lanh khac nhau o cho ben congiao tin
ducmedongtrinh con ben tinlanh thi khong; nhung neu hieu nhu MinhNhat hieu, thi
ben TinLanh ho cung tin nhu vay. Vay dau la diem khac biet giua conggiao va
tinlanh?
jptliem:
Xin moi cho y kien.... cac ban.
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annanhat:
Nhu vay theo con chung ta nen hieu cho dung tu " dong trinh " roi sau
do ta moi di den ve 2
annanhat:
Vay theo cac anh chi hieu the nao duoc goi la dong trinh?
jptliem:
do la theo MinhNhat hieu diem khac biet nen tang la do do, nhung co the do
khong phai la diem khac biet nen tang!
annanhat:
nhung sao con van nghe nhieu nguoi noi nhu vay
jptliem:
Thay noi y kien cua thay, roi cac em co the hoi va thao luan nhe.
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trinh1010:
Chao Thay va cac ban
vominhthu:
da. Thay cu' no'i xem the nao
annanhat:
va co le sau buoi chia se nay , con se cho nguoi khac mot loi giai thich dung
hon
annanhat:
chao Trinh
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annanhat:
Vay dau la diem khac biet nen tang ?
annanhat:
Neu anh chi nao biet thi co the noi cho Nhat nghe voi ?
vominhthu:
ca'i na`y moi nguo`i cung khong ro lam dau
jptliem:
Diem khac biet nen tang giua Conggiao va cac ton giao kito khac (Chinhthong
giao, Tin Lanh, Anh Giao) nam o cho ben Cong giao tin congiao la tongiao duy
tri duoc tong truyen, va tin Duc Giao Hoang co quyen vo ngo (khong sai lam) khi
tuyen bo mot dieu gi do ve tinly va luan ly nhan danh quyen giang day toi cao
cua minh, nhan danh quyen dai dien Chua Kito cua minh. Va ducgiaohoang da dung
quyen nay cong bo niem tin DucMaria vo nhiem nguyen toi (nam 1854 ?) va Duc
Maria Len Troi ca hon ca xac (nam 1950? thay viet dau hoi, vi thay khong nho,
nhung chi khong chac so o hang don vi thoi day)
TungSoft:
Tung nghi CongGiao chu'ng ta la nguon go^'c va duy tri cua Kito gia'o nhat
vominhthu:
da`nh nho` Thay cho mot va`i y' kien vay
vominhthu:
Thay oi.... vui lo`ng chia se a. ?
visaouoc:
xin thay chai se them cho ch8ung con
hungductruong
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jptliem:
Chinh vi tin ducgiaohoang co ON VO NGO nhu vay, ma hau qua la niem tin o nhung
diem cu the co khac nhau, nhu nhung loi giang day cua GiaoHoi Cong giao.... va
tat ca nguoi cong giao deu vang phuc duc giao hoang... con nhung ton giao khac
khong nhu vay. Ho khong vang phuc ducgiaohoang.
jptliem:
co ai hoi gi, thi hoi di, khi thay noi nhu vay.... cac em co nhan ra do la diem
nen tang, dan toi cac khac biet khac khong?
jptliem:
Khi co tranh luan ve tin ly, neu ducgiao hoang xac tin va day, thi khong con..
van de nua. Cac ton giao kito ma khong la conggiao thi khong nghi nhu vay.....
va ho giai thich... ho noi ho cung co ThanhThan huong dan vay.
annanhat:
Thua thay co phai vi the ma nguoi theo dao tin lanh ko xung toi voi Muc su ko ?
annanhat:
ho chi xung toi voi Chua
vominhthu:
con hieu roi...
vominhthu:
chi'nh vi` ho khong con nhan on VO NGO cua Duc Gia'o Hoa`ng moi dan den viec li
khai cua mot so ton giao nho
jptliem:
Chang han cau "duc me dongtrinh", do la loi giai thich cua giaohoi ve
cau Mt1, 25 khong nhu anh em tinlanh giai thich.... Ho dong y duc me dongtrinh
jptliem:
dung roi, ho khong dong y... va tach ra; va nhung anh em tinlanh voi nhau...
khong dong y va... tach ra.
TungSoft:
cho Con hoi la Duc GiaoHoang co on VO NGO "tu*`" khi nao vay Thay?
jptliem:
ca ben chinhthonggiao cung vay... ca ben anhgiao cung vay....
tinhsuong
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hungductruong:
neu ho khong sung toi voi muc su tuc la cac vi muc su do khong dua tren quyen
nang cua chua tuc ;la quyen nang cua chua khgong co tren ho co phai khong a.
tinhsuong
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hungductruong:
de ho tha toi chothien ha.
jptliem:
sao con hoi tu khi nao? theo niem tin conggiao thi khi ducgiaohoang, nguoi ke
vi thanhPhero, nguoi lam giam muc o Roma (noi Phero chet), khi nhan danh Chua
giang day dieu gi LIEN HE TOI DUC TIN VA LUAN LY, va DAY MOT CACH CHINH THUC
NHAN DANH QUYEN TOI THUONG, thi luc do moi duoc on vo ngo. Chu ducgiaohoang
trong cuocsong biinh thuong vaan sai lam, chi khi Ngai dung quyen toi thuong
day nhu vay, thi moi vo ngo (khong sai lam) thoi. Congdong chung Vatican I (nam
1869 hay 1870) tuyen bo dieu nay.
tinhsuong
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trangsang02
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tinhsuong
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jptliem:
khong biet thay giai thich nhu vay, co sang du khong nhi? cac em co y kien gi
khong? co the co y kien khac thi cu dua len nhe.
luongduyen0205
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vominhthu:
con hieu y' Thay
jptliem:
Bay gio, theo cac em, dau la diem khac biet nen tang giua Conggiao va cac
tongiao kito khac? Cac em tra loi duoc chua vay?
jptliem:
3 phut nua thay caunguyen ket thuc nhe.... gop y di keo.. het gio.
vominhthu:
hi`hi`...
jptliem:
Thay caunguyen ket thuc nhe.
visaouoc:
chung con hieu roi!
hungductruong:
diem khac biet la cong giao co mot vi thanh dai dien cho chua
jptliem:
Lay Cha la ThienChua chung con, chung con ta on Cha da ban ThanhThan cua Duc
Yesu Phuc Sinh cho chung con.
hungductruong:
wxin loi con nham
hungductruong:
,con da hieu roi a
roozbehreza
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visaouoc:
Amem
jptliem:
Xin Cha tiep tuc de Thanh Than o voi chung con, va xin cho chung con nhan ra
Cha dang hien dien va dong hanh voi chung con trong tung giay phut cua cuoc
song nay. Xin cho chung con cung nhan ra Cha dang hien dien noi nhung nguoi con
cua Cha noi cac ton giao khac. Xin cho chung con duoc yeu thuong va kinhtrong
nhau.
roozbehreza
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jptliem:
Xin cho chung con tro thanh chung nhan tinh yeu cua Cha trong the gioi hom nay.
Chung con cau xin, nhan danh duc Yesu Kito Chua chung con.
jptliem:
Amen.
vominhthu:
Amen
TungSoft:
Amen
trinh1010:
Amen
hungductruong:
amen
luongduyen0205:
Amen
vominhthu
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jptliem:
Bay gio cac ban co the tiep tuc chia se hoac noi chuyen tham hoi nhau, ngay noi
phong nay roi do. bay gio la tu do... xin moi...
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