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May 21, 2003
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patxuan:
Xuan moi Phuong do
patxuan:
Thay moi Xuan, Xuan lien moi Phuong va anh Tungsoft
liemsj:
rat tuyet, ThanhXuan. Con thay ai, cu moi giup thay nhe....
patxuan:
Anh Tung day con do
TungSoft:
oh, cam on em Xuan nhe'
TungSoft:
hahaha...
TungSoft:
Chao Thay va cac ban
liemsj:
Tat co de tai chia se hom nay chua? no xuat hien tren phan dau khi cac ban vao
do, con neu khong thi do o day http://www.jptlsj.net/detai.htm
liemsj:
Chao Tung.... Tung hoi tre ... nen duoc Xuan moi do.
liemsj:
Tung co thay may ban mien bac online khong? moi cac ban vao giup thay.
TungSoft:
da, con ....gia? do` de duoc em Xuan moi ay chu!
TungSoft:
da, ko thay a
TungSoft:
BP dau roi sao ko thay len tieng nhi ?
TungSoft:
cong viec sao roi BP ?
patxuan:
Xuan nghe noi Bich Phuong da di lam?
TungSoft:
wa, sao BP out ru`i
patxuan:
Hay Phuong rot roi
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liemsj:
Chao Thuy nhe.
patxuan:
Thuy dau Thay?
TungSoft:
welcome nicetf10!
TungSoft:
am_thuong la ai cho TungSoft lam .. wen di
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patxuan:
Anh Tung hoi toi ai thi coi nhu nguoi ay rot thoi
patxuan:
Nghe em hoi ne. Bac Chien oi, Bac van khoe a?
TungSoft:
oh, anh Tung ... ghe vay sao!
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TungSoft:
am_thuong la ai cho TungSoft lam .. wen di
TungSoft:
hahaha...
patxuan:
Bac Chien len tieng di, tui con muon chia se voi Bac truoc khi chia se chung.
TungSoft: leu leu em Xuan!
am_thuong:
ban oi minh ko hieu duoc vao day de chia se voi cac ban nen minh moi vua ra
khoi nhung thay lai dua minh vao do
liemsj:
Thay cau nguyen de bat dau chia se nhe.
am_thuong:
ban co the huong dan minh duoc ko vay
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ngochiends:
cam on, patxuan khoe khong?
patxuan:
Rat tot Lien a, chung ta se la ban be cua nhau.
TungSoft:
ko sao am_thuong, ti xiu se biet thoi!
liemsj:
Lay Chua, chung con tin Chua dang hien dien voi chung con.
batron79:
chao thay va cac ban!
batron79:
vat va qua!
patxuan:
Da con khoe a, con Bac Chien.
liemsj:
Xin Chua ban ThanhThan cho chung con.
patxuan:
Chuc mung BP nhe
batron79:
Thanks!
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ngochiends:
Da toi khoe, gia dinh binh an chu?
liemsj:
Xin ThanhThan ThienChua huong dan chung con chia se trong gio nay, xin cho
chung con tam tri sang suot de nhan ra su that ve Thien Chua, xin cho chung con
hieu biet ve Chua hon... de chung con yeu thuong nhau hon.
liemsj:
Xin cho chung con mot khi hieu Chua hon thi hieu con nguoi hon hieu chinh minh
hon va song trong tinh yeu cua Chua hon.
liemsj:
Chung con cauxin, nho duc Kito, Chua chung con. Amen.
truongdathoa
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TungSoft:
Amen
batron79:
Amen
ngochiends:
Amen
patxuan:
Amen
nguyenhung80vt
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liemsj:
Nhu binh thuong, bay gio chung ta toi muc GIOI THIEU, sau do se la CHIA SE.
patxuan:
Pham Anh Thanh Xuan, dang o Go Vap - HCM
liemsj:
Xin cac ban gioi thieu ho ten, hien dang o dau? va noi nhung gi ban muon... ;
cung co the hoi nguoi khac neu muon.
TungSoft:
TranThanhTung, 1979, di lam o Q3 TpHCM
truongdathoa:
Truong Thi Da Thoa,1978,hien dang o Cam Ranh
vinhson81
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truongdathoa:
Kinh chao Thay va tat ca cac anh chi!
liemsj:
Chao DaThoa.
liemsj:
Dang muc gioi thieu do Binh va vinhson81, xin moi gioi thieu nhe.
trinh1010
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patxuan:
Xuan chao Da Thoa.
liemsj:
nguyenhung80vt, moi gioi thieu nhe.
batron79:
Bich Phuong, hien dang o Nha Trang va sap vao Sai Gon
liemsj:
Chao Trinh, moi gioi thieu nhe.
truongdathoa:
chao chi Xuan!
mariahuongbien
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vinhson81:
Chao thay va cac ban
trinh1010:
Trinh o Dong Nai
patxuan:
BP sap vao Sai Gon ha?
am_thuong:
thay oi con chi doc va xem thay cung cac anh chi chia se vai lan thi con se
hieu va biet thoi
TungSoft:
chao be' Huong, khoe ko em ?
am_thuong:
gio con ko gioi thieu cung nhu ko chia se nhe thay
trinh1010:
Chao Thay va cac ban va cam on Tung
patxuan:
Chao Binh, Son, Trinh, Huongbien
am_thuong:
con chi nhin thay va cac anh chi chia se thoi
vietchau85
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liemsj:
Ai co mat trong phong nay, xin gioi thieu de cac ban khac biet nhe.
vietchau85:
Chu de ngay hom nay la gi vay thay
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mariahuongbien:
con chao Thay ,em chao cac anh chi !
TungSoft:
BP dang lam gi ma ko thay len tieng nhi?
patxuan:
Huong oi, em benh va the nao roi?
letter022002:
con chao Thay va cac ban
TungSoft:
tuan sau nhap vien! (tra loi giu'p)
mariahuongbien:
benh em chua ro
mariahuongbien:
tuan saau em kham lai ba` con a
batron79:
P gioi thieu roi ma!
TungSoft:
u`a he'n. nhung vay thay im lim qua'
liemsj:
Bay gio chung ta bat dau chia se nhe. Neu duoc Tung cho cau hoi len giup thay.
Neu cac em muon doc de tai co dau nghiem chinh, thi click vao day: http://www.jptlsj.net/detai.htm nhe.
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mariahuongbien:
nguyen thi huong _ nam nhat _ cd kinh te ky thuat cong ngiep II _ Q9
TungSoft:
Cac
ban than men, neu ThienChua la DangTuyetDoi ma ko ai co the kiem soat hoac dieu
khien duoc va la Dang moi ton giao deu ton tho, thi:
1.
Tai sao nguoi ta lai goi ThienChua bang nhieu ten khac nhau nhu vay? Tao sao
nguoi ta lai dien ta khac nhau ve ThienChua nhu vay?
2.
Theo ban, "Ong Troi" theo quan niem VietNam chung ta, co la ThienChua
ko? Tai sao ban tra loi co, tai sao ban tra loi khong?
3.
Dau la diem khac biet nen tang giua Kito giao va cac ton giao khac?
Gravy:
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TungSoft:
VinhSon oi , chua gioi thieu
liemsj:
De tai hom nay tiep tuc de tai tuan truoc. Dau tien, cac em co ai co thac mac
hoac co cau hoi nao tuong tu ve dieu nay, xin viet va cho len nhe....
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vinhson81:
Em Mai Duc Trong hien dang o Q.3 TP.HCM
TungSoft:
va am_thuong cung chua gioi thieu nua
liemsj:
Tc la ai? Cac ton giao khac Kitogiao ton tho ai? Dang ho ton tho co cung la
Dang ma Kito huu ton tho khong?
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vietchau85:
Cac ton giao khac cung ton tho vi chua ma la chua rieng cua ho
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vietchau85:
Thien chua la Vi cai quan Troi va Dat cung muon vat voi mong muon cho tat ca
deu tot
visaouoc:
TC la Dang tu huu, dang sang tao muon loai muon vat, lam chu su song va su
chet...TC la Dang toan nang
TungSoft:
nhung ThienChua VietChau va Truong noi la TC cua ton giao nao vay ?
TungSoft:
hay 2 ban no'i chung chung
TungSoft:
tuc co' y' la TC cua cac ton giao deu giong nhau ?
vietchau85:
dang ma ho ton tho thi trong lich su ton giao khong Hien huu
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TungSoft:
co du'ng vay ko VietChau va Truong?
truongdathoa:
vay doi voi nhung nguoi chua co duc tin vao Chua Kito thi ta nen noi nhu the
nao de chung minh dieu cac ban vua noi???
visaouoc:
Dung the!
liemsj:
Chao cac em. Thay bi thoat ra ngoai... nen cau dang viet do cho cac em bi mat
roi.... khong biet cac em dang chia se toi dau roi? cu tiep tuc di nhe.]
vietchau85:
TC cua moi ton giao theo quy luat khi ho gap phai kho khan thi vi CHUA do se
giup ho nhung dieu do khong co
phong_ant2002
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vietchau85:
Chi co TC ma chung ta dang tho moi co that
truongdathoa:
Ban Viet Chau nay!
hungductruong
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phong_ant2002:
chao thay va moi nguoi !
truongdathoa:
Ban co the giup minh noi nhu the nao de chung minh dieu do ko?
patxuan:
Chao Phong
liemsj:
Thien Chua la ai? Tc cua cac ton giao khac nhu dothaigiao, hoigiao, andogiao,
caodaigiao la ai? Ngai co la mot voi Tc cua kitohuu khong? Neu Ngai khac, thi
nhung nguoi trong cac ton giao do ton tho ai? Neu la mot, thi tai sao Tc lai
duoc goi bang nhieu ten nhu vay?
hungductruong:
choa that va cac ban
truongdathoa:
Noi nhu ban la Chua ma cac ton giao tho la gi?neu chi co chung ta tho la that?
liemsj:
Chao Truong nhe. Vat va qua moi vao duoc phai khong?
liemsj:
Thay xin loi, chao Hung chu.
letter022002:
moi nguoi cung deu dang tho TC nhung ho khong biet , va ho cho rang dang tuyet
doi ma ho dang tho la dang tuyet doi cua ton giao ho ma thoi
trinh1010:
Thao oi nom nay chi ngoi o cai may nay thay co Webcam, ma khong co ai de xam
thu, phai co em thi hay qua
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patxuan:
Xuan cung nghi nhu Anh Thu vay
trinh1010:
Trinh xin loi moi nguoi, vi vo y nen moi de chuyen rieng nhay vao
vietchau85:
Boi nhieu phep la do Chua tao ra va Duc Me thuc hien khi duoc TC: Hien ra o
PHATYMA hay chay nuoc mat
phong_ant2002:
ta co the tam noi ho dang ton tho su SU GIA CUA THIEN CHUA
phong_ant2002:
ma do chinh la thien chua
liemsj:
Cac em phan biet Thien Chua (chinh Ngai) va hinh anh Tc hay dieu nguoi ta nghi
ve Ngai, va goi Ngai bang mot ten nao do. Chang han con nguoi that cua thay, va
nguoi ta co the goi thay bang nhieu ten khac nhau, goi bang Liem, hay o nha ba
ma thay goi bang ten khac, hoac ho goi bang thay Liem, bang cha Liem, v.v....
nhung du goi bang nhieu ten, thi thuc tai "thay" van la
"thay" thoi.
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vietchau85:
Co the xuat su cua nhieu Chua khac nhau nhung deu boi moi nguoi deu ton tho
chua rieng cua ho nen CHUA la duy nhat nhung cach goi ten la khac nhau
liemsj:
Thuong moi ton giao deu ton tho Dang Tuyet Doi, Dang Cao Nhat, Dang la Nguyen
Uy cua tat ca... Chu co hai tho dang thu hai hoac dang thu ba ma KHONG TON THO
Dang Tuyet Nhat bao gio?
liemsj:
Du ho goi bang ten gi, hieu Ngai nhu the nao, thi Tuyet Doi van la Tuyet Doi
thoi. Neu nguoi ta hieu do ve Thien Chua, thi cung khong vi vay ma TC tro nen
do......
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visaouoc:
Theo con nghi phan lon cac ton giao deu tin tho dang sang tao ra muon loai , la
dang toan nang, dang lam chu moi su... va TC chung ta la tat ca nhu vay!
patxuan:
Nhung Thay a, cai kho la nguoi ta khong nhan nhu Thay vua noi ve CHua, va doi
khi chinh chung ta nhung nguoi co dao cung lam lan nhu vay
patxuan:
nen moi co chuyen tranh gianh Chua hon Phat chang han
letter022002
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vietchau85:
Tren troi va duoi dat dang ton tho chung mot vi CHUA ma la quyen uy cao nhat
liemsj:
Tuy nhien nguoi ta co the hieu ve TC trung thuc hon nhieu hay it.... Chang han,
trong cac em, co em hieu nhieu ve thay va co em hieu it ve thay.... va co the
ke ve thay cho nguoi khac... va nhung dieu ke do co the khac nhau..... va nhung
dieu noi ve thay do, it nhieu deu phan anh thay..... Cung tuong tu nhu vay dieu
nguoi ta noi ve Thien Chua, va ca cac tongiao noi ve Thien Chua.
patxuan:
viec di Nha Tho nhung lai khong thien cam ve Ch`ua
patxuan:
khong thich choi voi nguoi khong co dao
vietchau85:
nhung de dap lai VI CHUA do thi moi nguoi lai thuc hien khac nhau
hungductruong:
theo con su cam nhan ve thien chua deu do tu tuong con nguoi ma ra
liemsj:
Neu thay noi ve thay cho cac em nghe, thi co le dung hon.... nhung tuy vay, cac
em van co the hieu lam loi noi cua thay, va co the dan toi hieu sai ve
thay..... Cung tuong tu nhu vay doi voi mac khai cua TuyetDoi cho con nguoi.
phong_ant2002:
nhung no la dieu nguoi ta suy tuong thoi, con thuc tai van la Thien Chua
liemsj:
Khong biet thay dien ta o tren, co giup cac em hieu chut nao khong vay?
visaouoc:
Con dong y voi y kien va vi du Thay dua ra... Suy cho cung Dang ma cac ton giao
khac ton tho deu la TC nhung cach goi ten va su bien thai, tho nguoi nay nguoi
no, co su khac biet nhau ve tin dieu -giao ly
hungductruong:
nhu dan do thai xua ho cung hinh anh bo vang ma ton tho do cung la do tu tuong
ho cam nhan ma ra
batron79:
Thay oi, vay tai sao TC ko chon bat ky mot ton giao nao de dua con mot cua Ngai
xuong lam nguoi
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batron79:
ma lai chon Do thai giao?
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batron79:
tai sao lai co su khac biet qua lon giua cac ton giao ve cuoc song doi sau?
liemsj:
Thi phai chon mot thoi chu... lam sao chon tat ca duoc.... va Ngai cung noi voi
con nguoi... ngai cung lam sao de con nguoi hieu dung ve Ngai hon chu... do la
ly do Ngai phai chuan bi..... cho con Ngai nhap the. BichPhuong.
letter022002:
con hieu y Thay noi roi
patxuan:
Nhung Chua lai giai phong tat ca Phuong a? Vi khong chon Do Thai giao thi cung
phai chon mot dan toc nao do, thi khi do nguoi ta lai thac mac sao Chua lai cho
dan toc do do Phuong
batron79:
va bang chung dau cho thay chi co Kito giao moi hieu dung nhung mac khai cuaTC?
ngochiends
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hungductruong:
vi cac ton giao khao la do loai nguoi sang tao con dao cua dan do thai la do
chinh thien chua mac khai qua cac ngon su nen ngai
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truongdathoa:
Nhung lam cach nao de minh noi voi nguoi khac Thien Chau ma chung ta tho thi
moi la dich thuc?neu ho chua co duc tin.
hungductruong:
da sai duc gie su xuong qua dan do thai
liemsj:
Tc dich thuc, Ngai luon dich thuc.....
batron79:
nhung Hoi giao cung coi Mohamet la nguoi Ala goi den the gian
batron79:
va Duc phat cung tuong tu vay
nguyenhung80vt
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annanhat:
Neu muon nguoi khac tin TC chung ta dang tho la TC dich that thi chinh cuoc
song dao cua chung ta se chung minh
hungductruong:
duc tin phu thuoc vao loi song cua su cam nghiem cua con nguoi
liemsj:
Chi co dieu ai hieu HON va TC ma thoi. Moi ton giao deu cho minh hieu dung ve
TuyetDoi hoac ThucTaiUyenNguyen... va dien ta ......
visaouoc:
Dung vay, nhung de moi ton giao khac deu nghi ve Tc cua chung ta la dich thuc
la ca mot qua trinh kho khan
patxuan:
Cau hoi cua Phuong hay Thay a, xin tra loi cho chung con cung hieu
vietchau85:
Nhung co ton giao khong tin su song lai sau khi minh chat ma chi co KITOGIAO
chung ta tin thoi
batron79:
Phat giao lai cho rang co kiep luan hoi, con Kito giao thi ko
liemsj:
Moi tin huu cua cac ton giao deu cho dieu ton giao minh dien ta, minh day la
dung...... Vi neu ho thay sai, thi ho chang theo dau. Va neu ho thay ton giao
nao dung (hon)... thi ho se bo ton giao ho dang theo de theo ton giao ho thay
dung nhat.
batron79:
Phat giao hieu sai hay dung?
letter022002:
minh cung tin co su song lai doi sau chu chi Phuong
hungductruong:
neu ma thien chua khong song lai thi kito giao khong bao gio ton tai
batron79:
ki to giao hieu chinh xac chua?
annanhat:
Neu nguoi ta bao rang viec tin co su song lai la mot viec hao huyen va thi sao
?
patxuan:
Va Thay a, that su neu cung la mot TC nhu nhau co ve chung ta lai khong can
gioi thieu ve TC cua chung ta cho ho, vi chinh ho cung ton tho TC, nhung voi
suy nghi cua ho thoi
letter022002:
nhung khong phai la hoa than thanh kiep khac ma thoi
batron79:
su song doi sau dau co giong kiep luan hoi?
vominhthu:
chao Thay va cac ban
liemsj:
Do cung la mot van de lon...... BichPhuong. Nhung thay nghi co le nen hieu
taisao ben Phat giao lai co lythuyet luan hoi.
liemsj:
Chao VoMinhThu.
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batron79:
vang con biet dieu nay la van de lon nhung do chinh la nhung diem khac biet rat
ro ret
batron79:
ko giong dau Duybinh
patxuan:
Chao Minh Thu
nlclc:
theo minh nghi thi Phat giao ho ly giai bat nguon tu su :gieo hat nao thi se
sinh qua ay
vietchau85:
neu nhu thay noi mot nguoi thay doi Vi chua thi chac ho se khong tin mot vi
chua nao
liemsj:
Khong ai di tho bo (dan dothai ngay xua khi Mose len nui cung duc bo vang), bo
doi voi andogiao la... dau chi gi do, hay boi vi la hinh anh cua tuyetdoi o muc
do nao do..... neu minh doc dung, minh se khong khinh ho. Va hinh anh thi chi
la hinh anh.
liemsj:
thay khong hieu cau cua vietchau85
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patxuan:
nlclc la chi Thanh - anh Thuong a?
batron79:
Va neu noi cac ton giao deu giong nhau thi viec Duc kito bien thanh mau thit
nuoi song con nguoi qua tam banh thi qua that Kito huu co duoc loi the hon
nhung nguoi khac ko?
liemsj:
Cung co nhieu yeu to con nguoi noi cac ton giao, va co the dung co the sai,
cung co the nguoi ta hieu sai.... ve dien ta do.
nlclc:
Thay oi, con nghi rang cau noi cua thanh Ausgustino hoi ngiong voi cau cua
mtduybinh vua roi
nlclc:
nlclc la loc
batron79:
trong cuu uoc TC da rat buon vi dan Do thai da tho than ngoai ban
liemsj:
Co the nhung hieu biet cua chung ta (mot so kito huu) ve cac ton giao khac,
cung gioi han nhu mot so nguoi khac hieu ve chung ta, chang han mot so ban
tinlanh (mot so thoi day) cho rang conggiao ton tho DucMe chang han.
annanhat:
Vang con cung nghi vay
batron79:
lieu dieu nay co the noi rang la Dan do thai luc ay cung dang tho TC nhung duoi
hinh anh khac ko?
letter022002:
chao be Loc
nlclc:
diem khac nhau giua cac ton giao theo minh nghi do khong han la do ly thuyet ma
con do viec hanh dao nua
visaouoc:
Trong con nguoi co le y niem ve cac ton giao deu khac nhua, du huong minh toi
dieu thien va hu0ng toi cuoc song mai sau.... nhung do moi ton giao deu co he
thong giao ly va giao dieu rieng(rat chac che) , nen cac tin do deu tin vao ton
giao minh- va cho ton giao minh tho la tot nhat tien bo nhat, Thay nghoi sao?
patxuan:
Va Thay a, that su neu cung la mot TC nhu nhau co ve chung ta lai khong can
gioi thieu ve TC cua chung ta cho ho, vi chinh ho cung ton tho TC, nhung voi
suy nghi cua ho thoi
nlclc:
chao Thu law
batron79:
P cung dang phan van nhu Xuan vay
annanhat:
Theo em nghi thi ko nhu vay duoc
batron79:
va nhu vay thi Viec Ruoc Le cua chung ta thi nhu the nao?
liemsj:
Chac chan o day khong the giai dap hoan toan nhung thac mac cua cac em duoc, va
thay cung khong the giai dap het thac mac, va cung khg biet du de giai dap tat
ca .... NHUNG IT LA DE CHUNG TA Y THUC VA DUNG KET AN HOAC KHINH THUONG cac ton
giao khac, hoac nhung nguoi song trong cac ton giao khac, nhung nhin ho nhu la
anh em, va ho co cung Cha tren troi nhu chung ta, va phan lon trong ho (neu
khong muon noi la tat ca) deu ton thoi DangTuyetDoi, cho du nhung gioi han cua
dien ta cua con nguoi luon ham chua.
patxuan:
That ra Xuan da tin rang chi co TC la Dang tuyet hao
annanhat:
Vi mot bai toan co the co nhieu cach giai nhung ta phai tim cach nao toi uu va
hay nhat chu
visaouoc:
Chi Xuan noi dung nhu o tren em noi, "ai cung cho nha minh la nhat"
dau de dang nghe nhung dieu minh noi, do la ca nmot qua trinh kho khan
batron79:
chang le Chua chi gianh cho Kito giao thoi viec ruoc Ngai vao long thoi sao?
patxuan:
va cac ton giao khac du giai thich the nao di nua thi van la TC duoc hieu theo
cach cua ho
patxuan:
Nhung neu xac dinh la mot thi Xuan lai co thac mac tren
nlclc:
teo em thi k dau chi Phuong
batron79:
o day chung ta ko noi den viec lam the nao de noi cho cac ton giao khac biet ve
Kito giao ma ...
batron79:
chung ta dang noi : lieu TC cua Kito giao co la dang tuyet doi cua cac ton giao
khac ko?
nlclc:
em thay viec Chua den voi minh dau han la qua ruoc le
TungSoft:
Vang, Con nhat tri' voi doan Thay vua viet lam.
liemsj:
ThanhXuan, vi chung ta tin chung ta hieu hon ve Tc, va chung ta tin duc Yesu,
Loi Tc nhap the noi cho chung ta biet hon ve Tc, va chinh su hieu biet hon cua
chung ta ve Tc giup chung ta song binhan hon, trien no hon, hanh phuc hon...
nen chung ta chia se niem tin cho ho, lam chung ve duc Yesu Phuc Sinh cho ho,
de ho tin va duoc binh an hon, hanh phuc hon. Chinh vi the, neu mot kitohuu
khong hanh phuc, khong song duc tin, thi do la mot phan chung, va lam cho nguoi
ta khong tin dao, khong tin loi rao giang cua chung ta....
batron79:
dung vay Loc a, nhung ruoc le van la quan trong nhat trong Kito giao dung ko?
visaouoc:
con dua ra mot vi du, chang han dao tin lanh, linh muc duoc lay vo, theo ho
nghi do la hop voi qui luat tu nhien, thoang hon TCGiao, thi lam sao minh noi
ve Tc cua minh cho ho nghe duoc
nlclc:
gia su chi dang cong tac o noi k the ruoc le ? gia su thoi
TungSoft:
Chi hieu TC cua cac ton giao la mot voi nghia thoa'ng thoi. Phai hieu thoa't
khoi cac dieu ran cua moi ton giao, thoa't khoi cac quy dinh cua cac ton giao,
thoat khoi giao ly' cua cac ton giao!
batron79:
Viec Chua Jesus nhap the phai chang la viec TC muon thong nhat cac ton giao,
Nguoi to minh truc tiep voi con nguoi
batron79:
de ho ko di tho nhung Dang ma ho tu tuong tuong ra nua?
TungSoft:
Va TungSoft nghi cac TC cua cac ton giao la mot
nlclc:
em dong y voi chiP
letter022002:
theo em Chua van den voi nhung nguoi theo ton giao khac chi co dieu ho khong
biet de don ruoc Ngai , con Kito giao chung ta y thuc rang minh phai ruoc Chua
vao
nlclc:
minh cung dong y voi letter
bupbekhongtinhyeu33
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batron79:
lam sao chung ta biet cac ton giao khac ko biet don ruoc TC, neu la cung 1 Dang
liemsj:
Co le cau hoi thu hai se soi sang van de cua chung ta hon do.
batron79:
thi minh nghi TC se dung Thanh than de tac dong chu
annanhat:
Vang
hungductruong:
co phai mot ton giao co mot cach tho phuong rieng khong a
batron79:
chang le chi co Kito giao chung ta moi duoc TC cho TT cua nguoi tac dong?
liemsj:
Theo quan niem binh dan, nguoi ta hay noi den ONG TROI. Theo cac em, ONG TROI
theo quan niem nguoi binh dan Vietnam, co la Thien Chua khong? co la Dang Tuyet
Doi khong?
nlclc:
nhung em nghi rang Thanh Than se tac dong moi nguoi moi khac chu
hungductruong:
theo con ngi do la dunhg
antigone192003:
con nghi la khong
batron79:
minh ko cho la vay
nlclc:
con nghi co le la CO , nhung ho k biet do la ai ca
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batron79:
vi dan giang ho cu nghi ong troi la 1 ong gia rau toc bac pho
nlclc:
ma chi biet do la mot dang toi cao
phong_ant2002:
Co'. La dang Tuyet Doi
batron79:
ngoi tren ngai cao ngat va quyet dinh moi chuyen
vominhthu:
Tha'nh Than ta'c dong tren tat ca moi nguo`i, nhung tuy nhan thu'c moi
nguo`i... vi' du. chu'ng ta tin 1 viec na`o do' tha`nh cong la` do on Chu'a la`
do ta'c dong cua Tha'nh Than nhung mot so nguoi khac khong cho nhu vay
batron79:
con nguoi ko the lam trai duoc
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visaouoc:
Theo con, qn cua nguoi VN: Chua voi Troi la mot, vi trong y niem cua ho ong
Troi thau hieu biet moi su(Tc ta cung vay
vominhthu:
ho nghi la` do ....may man, chang han
nlclc:
co le ong Troi k xa lam dau
liemsj:
Cac em nghi sao ve cau cua visaouoc?
vominhthu:
a`, theo mi`nh thi` Ong Tro`i theo wan niem dan gian cung chi'n la` Thien Chu'a
cua dao Cong gia'o chung ta ma` thoi
nlclc:
vi ta van co the goi TROI OI o bat cu dau ma. Jesus voi nguoi cong gia o cung
the !!!
annanhat:
Ong Troi cung co the xa va cung co the gan theo suy nghi va quan niem cua ta
annanhat:
Cung giong nhu TC vay
liemsj:
Cac em tra loi cau hoi cua thay, va noi ly do tai sao minh tra loi nhu vay
nhe..... va qua do cung soi sang cach hieu cua cac ton giao ve DagnTuyetdoi do.
annanhat:
Neu ta tin va song dao , tho dao thi Tc gan ta
phong_ant2002:
Vi ho xem dang ho ton tho la Dang Tuyet tuc la ONG TROI
annanhat:
con neu chung ta song ko co duc tin vao Chua thi TC xa ta
hungductruong:
ta co the noi theo quan niem nguoi viet nam co mot dang toi coa duy nhat ma
trong do co cac than thanh rieng la chu than nhu than sam set vvv
phong_ant2002:
hay Kito giao ta goi la TC
trinh1010:
Con thay rat kho so sanh, cung co nhung dieu chung to la rat giong TC va cung
rat khac TC cua chung ta
visaouoc:
co nhung ca dao tuc ngu ma ong ba ta haqy noi lam sang to dieu do nhu: O hien
gap lanh, reo qua nao gap qua ay, ac gia ac bao..va ro nhat la cau"muu su
tai nhan thanh su tai thien"..thay va anh chi nghi sao?
antigone192003:
boi con nghi neu nhu thay noi ve quan niem binh dan thi ong troi o day chi la
mot nguoi ma ho ton sung neu nhu nguoi theo dao TC thi co the hieu do la TC
nhung neu ngoi theo dao khac thi co the hiwu do la mot Duc Phat,mot Khong Tu
hay mot dang Ala nao do
annanhat:
Vay theo ban thi TC la dang toi cao hay la mot trong nhung vi thanh than do ?
hungductruong:
ton gioa phai phu thuoc vao duc tin ma ta tin ton giao cua chung ta duoc la nho
duc tin
batron79:
ma dien hinh nhu la Ngoc Hoang
batron79:
khi bi dieu gi ko tot ho ho noi la "troi phat"
batron79:
Ngoc hoang trong phim truyen chinh la ong troi ma dan gian thuong goi
batron79:
lieu do co phai la su tuong tuong cua con nguoi?
vominhthu:
o day khong phai minh so sa'nh Ong Troi khac vo'i CHua the nao, chi la` trong
quan niem cua nhan dan va` ca'c Kito huu ve Ong Troi va TC ma` thoi
hungductruong:
thien chua la dung toi cao va la duy nhat
visaouoc:
co nhung ca dao tuc ngu ma ong ba ta haqy noi lam sang to dieu do nhu: O hien
gap lanh, reo qua nao gap qua ay, ac gia ac bao..va ro nhat la cau"muu su
tai nhan thanh su tai thien"..thay va anh chi nghi sao?
patxuan:
Cung nhu tren Xuan dong y voi antigone192003
nlclc:
theo em do k phai do tuong tuong dau vi ho van tin co troi ma chi P. nhung co
le la ho k xac dinh do la ai dau
visaouoc:
Con chao Thay va cac anh chi, rat tiec con co viec phai di... Xin Thien Chua
chuc lanh cho Thay va qui anh chi
ladieubong_jvc
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patxuan:
Nhung co dieu chung ta lai dang hieu tat ca nhung Dang TDoi cho du la dao nao
van la TC cua chung ta
hungductruong:
do co phai la quy luat nhan qua ma co quy luat do thi cac ton giao moi ton tai
phai khong thay
vominhthu:
cung hay....qua nhung cau no'i dan gian do' thi` tu trong tham tam con nguo`i
cung tin la` co' 1 Dang na`o do', rat Cong Bang, rat Quan Pho`ng tren moi su
viec cua con nguo`i....
annanhat:
Minh ko dong y voi nhung cau ca dao tuc ngu nhu tren neu xet theo TC
batron79:
dan gian tu ve cho ho va mot dang goi la Ngoc Hoang, va cai gi ko giai thich
duoc ho cho la do Ngoc Hoang .... roi biet bao nhieu dieu khac nua nhu than sam
xet, nam tao .... thien loi ....
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annanhat:
Vi neu nguoi nao do lam gi sai , thi Tc la dang nhan tu thi phai tha thu cho ho
va huan cai ho
camnguyenkg:
chao Thay va moi nguoi!!
annanhat:
chu tai sao lai trung phat ho theo nhung dieu ho da lam ?
liemsj:
BichPhuong, sao con dung tu VE RA? Nen dung tu ho dien ta ve Dang
vominhthu:
xet theo khia canh Cong gia'o thi` 1 phan na`o do' cung du'ng do' annanhat...
vominhthu:
vi` cung TC cua chu'ng ta dong thoi cung la` Dang Cong Bang ma`
batron79:
ho dau co thay dang ho dang noi den
batron79:
vi the ho tu cho la nhu the thoi
nlclc:
theo em thi co le la ho k co duoc hoc ki ve ngoc hoang nen ho con mo ho ve
nguoi do la ai , con neu ho hoc ki (nhu giao ly ) thi co le ho k con tuong
tuong ra nua dau hen chi P
annanhat:
nhu vay la ap dat
TungSoft:
Tung nghi cung co' mot ThienChua cua mot dan gian, mot ton giao "dan
gian" ! Va OngTroi cua dan gian cung la dang toi cao!
liemsj:
Toi Cao Nhu vay theo muc do hieu biet cua ho..... cung nhu ngay ca cac kito
huu, hinh anh ve Thien chua cung khac nhau tuy muc do hieu biet cua moi
nguoi.... Ngay ca khi cung dung mot tu ngu, noi dung hieu cung khac nhau. Thi du
Kinhthanh noi con nguoi duoc Tc tao dung tu bun dat, co mot so hieu theo nghia
den.... hoan toan.....
batron79:
vay TC ko day ho sao?
batron79:
hay chi day Kito giao?
vominhthu:
oh....do' la` bon phan cua moi chu'ng ta....
annanhat:
Tc co day nhung ho ko hieu
truongdathoa:
Co cau"nguoi giau vao nuoc thien dang nhu con lua chui qua lo
kim"va"chi co ngay tho nhu con tre moi vao duoc nuoc thien
dang"Co nguoi hoi "Vay ai thi moi duoc vao nuoc thien dang?"Nuoc
thien dang co that ko,ma kho vay?
vominhthu:
chu'ng ta phai la`m cho ho. nhan biet ro~ ra`ng hon "chan dung" cua
TC
nlclc:
em dong y voi VOMINHTHU
batron79:
ban phan cua chung ta sao Thu?
truongdathoa:
xin thay va cac ban giup con tra loi!
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batron79:
vi ton giao nao cung la tho TC ma
trinh1010
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batron79:
va TC mac khai cho ho tuy theo kha nang , moi truong sogn cua ho ...
batron79:
ban da noi the la gi?
annanhat:
Day la mot cau noi ma ta phai hieu thoat y
patxuan:
Xuan nghi do chi la hinh anh thoi Thoa a
annanhat:
chu ko hoan toan dua vao nghia den cua no
nlclc:
nhung TC cua ho la 1 dang nao do nhung chua chac da la JESUS
annanhat:
Vi neu chung ta dua vao nghia den thi nguoi ta se dat cau hoi : Vay thi tat ca
nguoi giau deu la nguoi ko tot sao ?
liemsj:
Thoa oi, cau do cho thay vao nuoc thiendang tuy thai do moi nguoi, nhung dac
biet hon duc Yesu noi ve su troi buoc cua tien bac. Tien bac co manh luc rieng
va co the troi buoc giam ham con nguoi....
batron79:
neu noi chung ta phai day ho thi la thua nhan chung ta hieu dung ve Dang toi
cao hon ho roi?
batron79:
co phai vay ko?
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patxuan:
Va Thay a, that su neu cung la mot TC nhu nhau co ve chung ta lai khong can
gioi thieu ve TC cua chung ta cho ho, vi chinh ho cung ton tho TC, nhung voi
suy nghi cua ho thoi, khong co nghia la ai giau va lon thi khong vao duoc nuoc
troi
vuhoanghieu
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vominhthu:
P khong hieu y' Thu roi... Dang ma` ho. ton tho` thuc chat cung la` TC nhu
chu'ng ta..
patxuan:
nhung la de chung ta ngay mot don so hon, biet chia se su "giau co"
chang?
batron79:
vay thi Ho ton tho dung roi
nlclc:
theo em thi chua chac la minh hon ho ,nhung minh co the gan Jesus hon ho
vominhthu:
do' la` xet trong niem tin cua ho....ho cung tin la` ho tho` Dang Tuyet Doi
quyen nang..
patxuan:
Thoa dong y voi giai thich nay chua?
batron79:
dau can chung ta phai day ho nua?
vominhthu:
cung giong nhu chu'ng ta tin vao TC cua chung ta vay
annanhat:
Chung ta ko the day ho
annanhat:
ma chung ta can phai chung minh va chi cho ho
vominhthu:
nhung co`n mot so nhieu dieu khac, mot so dinh nghia va` hinh anh du'ng dan
khac ve TC
vominhthu:
ma` chung ta may man duoc TC mac khai
truongdathoa:
da!Em cam on thay va cac anh chi!
vominhthu:
con ho thi` chua
vominhthu:
va` nhiem vu cua chung ta la` lam` cho ho nhan thuc dung hon ve TC
annanhat:
Nhu vay Tc thien vi sao ?
batron79:
lam sau chung ta dam nghi la chung ta hieu dung ve TC hon ho neu cac ton giao
deu cung tho 1 dang tuyt doi?
annanhat:
chi cho ta biet ma ko cho ho biet
nlclc:
k
batron79:
vi cung la 1 dang toi cao thi voi moi ton giao nguoi se mac khai 1 cach rieng
tuy theo .... nhieu dieu kien khac nhau, ok?
patxuan:
Xuan xin loi vi chep lon mot doan, thay vi chep doan cua Thoa de tra loi thi
lai chep doan cua xuan o tren
nlclc:
k phai TC thien vi ma chung ta MAY MAN hon thoi
vominhthu:
khong phai TC thien vi...ma` nhan biet duoc TC cung duoc goi la` 1 on lo'n
liemsj:
Cho nen cung tuong tu nhu vay, nguoi Trung Hoa quan niem Ngoc Hoang, vi o duoi
dat ho co vua... Dang toi cao duoi dat la vua, nen nguoi ta noi Dang toi ca....
(Thien Chua: Chua tren troi) cung la vua, nen nguoi binh dan TrungHoa goi Ngoc
Hoang.... neu chung ta hieu nghia den "qua" la chung ta hieu sai ho,
cung tuong tu nhu mot nguoi hieu ThienChua dung tay nan con nguoi vay. Neu mot
nguoi ngoai doc KinhThanh va noi voi kitohuu nhu vay, thi chung ta cho la ho
khong hieu den noi den chon, va nhu vay hieu sai... cho nen BichPhuong, con nen
coi lai cach noi va cach hieu cua con ve nhung dien ta binh dan ve mot thuc tai
sieu viet.
annanhat:
Con dong y voi Thay
annanhat:
Chung ta phai hieu theo nghia bong
TungSoft:
nhung voi moi ti'n do cua mot ton giao ma ho cho la du'ng nhat, the thi ko nen
"truyen giao" ho theo CongGiao, vi doi voi ho, ho se hieu ho*n ve
ThienChua theo giao ly' cua ho. Vay co dung chang? Neu minh ma truyen giao cho
ho, doi khi ... lam ho hieu sai ve ThienChua ma theo ho nghi !
mariahuongbien:
theo cach nghi cua minh (ko biet co hoi ich ky ko) doi voi minh TC ma minh ton
tho la duy nhat ,hoan hao nhat va tuyet doi nhat ,cac dang khac ma dao khac ton
tho cung tot ,ho de mang hinh anh cua Chua ,nhung ho ko hoan toan giong Chua
,chi dat duoc mot dieu gi do thoi . TC ma ta ton tho la that va nhung Dang ma
ddao khac ton tho chi la hinh anh qua guong ,chi la anh ao thoi ,con "that"
la duy nhat va chi co mot
annanhat:
chu neu hieu theo nghia den thi se co the hieu sai
batron79:
P ko hieu theo nghia den dau
phong_ant2002:
nhu vay tai sao lai co su tranh chap giua cac ton giao !
batron79:
o day P muon noi la neu nhu noi TC ma chung ta ton tho cung la 1 dang voi cac
ton giao khac thi co nhieu van de de dat ra
mariahuongbien:
minh thay nhung nguoi khac theo dao khac cungn tot nhung minh van co y tuong
pjai chi ho theo dao minh thi ho se dat duo cdieu hoan hao nhat ,ly tuong nhat
annanhat:
Do la vi tu tuong cua moi con nguoi
batron79:
ma nay gio cac ban da ko giai thich duoc
liemsj:
BichPhuong, nhu mot cha me co nhieu con, nguoi cha nguoi me co the trao nhiem
vu day em cho nguoi anh hay chi.... cung tuong tu nhu vay doi voi chung ta.... cung
co the co mot nguoi co tri thong minh hon.... thi duoc chi de giup nguoi
khac.... nen chung ta cung phai co bon phan doi voi cac ton giao khac.
annanhat:
Vi nhu da noi o tren ai cung cho rang nha minh la dep nhat va muon nguoi khac
cong nhan dieu do
hungductruong:
trac chan rang chi co motv dung toi cao duy nhat ma thoi
liemsj:
Tui con co biet trong Giao Hoi co de cap... van de DOI THOAI TON GIAO khong?
hungductruong:
con co biet
nlclc:
da co
phong_ant2002:
vay do la su "mac khai" cua Thien Chua chang!
liemsj:
GiaoHoi cung co ban TU DO TON GIAO trong congdong chung vatican II.
annanhat:
Xin Thay co the giai thich cho tui con !
nlclc:
nhung hau nhu chi la de hoa hop ton giao chu k hoa nhap
batron79:
nhung co nhung quan diem giua cac ton giao ko the giong nhau duoc
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patxuan:
Anh Tung de tra loi cau hoi cua anh thi Thay cung da tra loi cau hoi cua em
tuong tu an ho tren roi do
batron79:
va chinh vi the dan den nhung suy nghi khac nhau
hungductruong:
dung vay
letter022002:
em nghi nhung nguoi khong phai cong giao ho khong hieu that su dung ve TDdau
anh Tung a , nhung vi TCton trong tu do cua ho , nen Ngai van khong bat ep ho
phai hieu dung ve Ngai , nhung chung ta la nhung nguoi da hieu ve Ngai thi nen
giup cho nguoi khac hieu ve TC
patxuan:
Co gi anh doc lai nhe
batron79:
cach hanh xu cung khac nhau
nlclc:
minh dong y voi letter
liemsj:
Chang han Tc la ai, theo ban, theo moi ton giao? Vua gio cac em duoc hoi ONG
TROI la ai theo nguoi binh dan Vietnam. Va neu cac em tra loi, do la Tc, thi
cac em se de hieu hon nhung cha ong ta duoc cuu do, duoc len Thien Dang vi ho
cung ton tho Tc (ma chung ta goi) ma da so nguoi chua la kito huu goi la ONG
TROI. Ma neu ho biet ONG TROI... la mot thuc tai, ong troi, thi TC da mac khai
cho ho o mot muc do nao do roi.
hungductruong:
co le cvi chua cho con nguoi co quyen tu do
mtduybinh
left the room
batron79:
chang han, neu nhu noi la cac ton giao deu nhu nhau deu la do TC mac khai thi
sao chi minh kito giao hieu dung,
hungductruong:
con dong y voi y cua thay
batron79:
Phat giao de cao la phai diet duc
batron79:
con Kito giao thi lai la "tie^'t duc"
vominhthu:
khong phai dau BP
batron79:
Phat giao ko cho sat sinh
batron79:
con kito giao thi viec an uong van binh thuong
liemsj:
AnhThu, hieu dung ve Tc cung trong muc do nao do thoi. Chung ta cho chung ta
hieu dung, va chung ta tin nhu vay.... nhung moi nguoi cung biet rang TC vo
cung, chung ta con gioi gioi han, nen tri hieu cua chung ta cung gioi han...
chung ta chi hieu Tc trong muc do nao do..... AI NOI MINH DIEN TA DUNG TUYET
DOI VE THIEN CHUA, THI DO LA NGUOI BIET THIEN CHUA RAT GIOI HAN DO, NEU KHONG
MUON NOI HO KHONG HIEU THIEN CHUA.
patxuan:
BP co ly trong cau hoi nay, nen can thiet chung ta phai hoc hoi lan nhau giua
cac ton giao va chung ta cung can ton trong nhung gi dao khac hieu
letter022002:
hoi nay em thay Thay co dua ra vi du cu the ve van de ma chi hoi roi do chi
Phuong
vominhthu:
chang qua quan niem ve Dang Toi Cao cua cac ton gia'o khac giong quan niem cua
chung ta ve TC
hungductruong:
vi ho quan niem do la cdieu ac ma moi ton giao deu thanh tru dieu ac
annanhat:
Vang chung ta nen ton trong cac dao khac
mariahuongbien:
vay theo cach nghi cua con ,ket hop voi cacch nghi ao nao cung the ! daao nao
cung la su mac khai cua Chua ,thi khoi can moi goi cac ban co dao khac tim hieu
dao minh saao?
annanhat:
va nen hoc hoi
batron79:
tai sao lai co su khac biet rat ro rat do, neu nhu ko muon noi la trai nguoc
nua?
vominhthu:
chu' TC mac khai ve Nguoi cho Kito giao qua chi'nh DGS, con Nga`i...
annanhat:
va cung thong qua tim hieu ve dao khac thi chung ta cang xac thuc rang TC chung
ta dang tho la TC dich thuc
vominhthu:
boi vay nen wan niem cua chu'ng ta ve TC la` du'ng dan nhat
batron79:
va vi vay thi TC co y muon moi ton giao deu quy ve Kito giao roi
vominhthu:
vi` chung ta duoc mac khai qua chi'nh con TC
batron79:
vi NGuoi chi chon Kito giao de cho Jesus xuong mac khai
patxuan:
Nhung khong hoan toan dung lai o do. Noi chung chung ta can hoc nhung dieu hay
o bat cu dau, o ca ton giao ban de hieu hon va TC cua chung ta, yeu men Ngai
hon
liemsj:
Ngay ca giua cac tin huu, su hieu biet ve Thien Chua cung khac nhau..... nhung
TC VAN LA MOT doi voi cac tin huu, cho du ho co hieu ve Ngai khac nhau o mot
muc do nao do. Chang han co nguoi hieu TC rat nhan tu, co nguoi hieu TC rat
cong bang nen phat nguoi nay tru diet nguoi kia....... Tc van la Tc.....
batron79:
va nhu vay thi coi nhu la chung ta da coi Kito giao hon cac ton giao khac roi
ha Thu?
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phong_ant2002:
do la do ta suy doan thoi
vominhthu:
uh... chu'ng ta may man hon ho, boi vay nen tra'ch nhiem chu'ng ta cung nang ne
hon
annanhat:
Ai cung co cai toi cua minh ma
batron79:
Vang neu cac Kito huu tu minh hieu TC theo y cua Kito huu thi Kito huu do dau
co tho phuong TC dau?
annanhat:
nhung mien sao minh van ton trong nguoi khac
hungductruong:
chung quy lai thi TC van la duy nhat va la mot co the doi voi mot ton giao nao
khac nua
batron79:
P ko nghi the
batron79:
nhu the se gay ra chien tranh ve ton giao do THu a!
annanhat:
Vi chung ta la con nguoi ma
vominhthu:
chien tranh ton giao ?
annanhat:
va chung ta chiu su chi phoi cua tinh nguoi
vominhthu:
vi` sao?
liemsj:
Bay gio la 8:08 phut roi. Thay ket thuc nhe, cho du chua co gio de di qua cau
hoi thu ba: Dau la diem khac biet nen tang giua Kito giao va cac ton giao khac.
Tuan toi chung ta se tiep tuc nhe. Bay gio thay caunguyen ket thuc.
liemsj:
Phai noi la gio chia se hom nay rat .... sinh dong.
bupbekhongtinhyeu33:
con chao thay chao moi nguoi ,chuc moi nguoi o lai chia se vui ve nha (chao ho
Huyen Tam luon)
batron79:
vi minh tu cho minh hon ton giao khac
phong_ant2002:
con cung nghi the
batron79:
dieu do cac ton giao khac ko the chap nhan
phong_ant2002:
cam on thay
batron79:
va the la xung dot
liemsj:
Lay Chua, chung con tin Chua dang hien dien voi chung con.
annanhat:
Chuc Thay va moi nguoi suc khoe va binh an trong Chua !
vominhthu:
mi`nh may man duoc TC mac khai, nen tra'ch nhiem cua chung ta la` phai gio'i
thieu ve "hi`nh anh dich thuc" cua TC cho moi nguo`i...
liemsj:
Chung con tin ThanhThan dang o voi chung con, va giup chung con hieu hon ve Tc
va hieu hon ve con nguoi.
annanhat:
Amen !
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hungductruong:
Amen
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liemsj:
Xin Chua tiep tuc o voi chung con, de chung con nhan ra Tc van hien dien voi
chung con, va hien dien ca voi nhung anh em khong cung ton giao voi chung con.
phong_ant2002:
amen
TungSoft:
Ngoi Hai ThienChua Nhap The lam nguoi , Ngai la TC di'ch thuc! Va cho "ra
doi" tan uoc, va mot ton giao! The nhung sau do' con nguoi chu'ng ta cung
lai ta'ch ra nhieu ton giao kha'c. Va tu tu, dan dan cac ton giao nay cung se
co' cac dieu kha'c nhau nhu chung ta ban luan nay gio! Cac ban nghi sao ve dieu
Tung nhan thay ne?
camnguyenkg:
Amen
liemsj:
Xin cho chung con nhan ra Tc la Dang tuyet voi, vuot tren moi suy nghi cua
chung con.
letter022002:
Amen
nlclc:
AMEN
liemsj:
Xin cho chung con duoc tu do va hanh phuc hon.
liemsj:
Chung con cau xin, nho duc Kito, chua chung con.
liemsj:
Amen.
vinhson81:
Amen
vominhthu: Amen
batron79: Amen.
TungSoft: Amen
nlclc: CHUNG CON CAM ON CHUA VA
THAY
trinh1010: Amen
nlclc: AMEN
phong_ant2002: amen
mariahuongbien: amen
hungductruong: Amen!
batron79: Chao thay va tat ca cac
ban,
truongdathoa: Amen!
batron79: chuc moi nguoi mot ngay
tot lanh nhe!
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batron79: bye!
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patxuan: Amen
mariahuongbien: chao ba con nao
can ve som !
phong_ant2002: chaob tam biet
hungductruong: lay chua xin cho
chung con nhin thay chua noi nguoi anh em ma chung con gap moi ngay
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letter022002: em can phai ve som
do be Huong a
mariahuongbien: vang
mariahuongbien: lau roi ko di chia
se
mariahuongbien: bua nay di nghe ba
con ta chia se ko ha
letter022002: nho an nhieu va ...
ngu nhieu nhe be
trinh1010: Chao Thay va cac ban
=;, Chuc ngu~ ngon.
patxuan: Mong sao viec dieu tri
cua Be Huong tot dep
mariahuongbien: cam on ba con da
nhac nho em!
mariahuongbien: em cung monh nhu
the chi Xuan a
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patxuan: Bay gio Huong dang o dau?
nha Huong hay Anh Thu?
batron79: cac ban oi!]
letter022002: be Huong ve quan 9
roi chi Xuan a
vominhthu: cha`o Thay va` cac ban
luon nhe'..
vominhthu: chu'c mot dem an la`nh
mariahuongbien: da ktx
vominhthu: hen gap lai va`o tuan
sau.
vominhthu: bibo
letter022002: em bat nat du qua
nen Huong o nha em co mot bua phai voi bo chay ve rui
batron79: luc nay minh tranh luan
soi noi qua co lam cac ban buon ko vay
mariahuongbien: chao chi THu
batron79: minh xin loi nhe
letter022002: em quen rui chi
Phuong oi , hihibi
phong_ant2002: thay oi con co the
chat rieng voi thay ko?
truongdathoa: ko dau!
batron79: Minh luon chia se nhung
gi minh nghi
mariahuongbien: ko co chi Thu bat
em an qua troi luon
batron79: vi luc nay co nguoi hoi
minh sao ma noi chua chat qua
batron79: nhu sap ra khoi kito
giao luon roi
batron79: ko phai vay dau
mariahuongbien: chi THu la mot
nguoi chi tuyet voi!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!hihihi
patxuan: Khong dau Phuong a
nlclc: EM CHI CAM THAY THOI
nlclc: DA BAO K BUON MA
batron79: Minh co nhung thac mac
va muon duoc moi nguoi cung giai dap
nlclc: CHI HOI THOI MA
patxuan: Nhu moi nguoi tung noi
tranh luan de lam ro van de do ma
letter022002: chi bi no lo mui roi
be Huong oi
nlclc: UHH
batron79: de tim ra cau tra loi
cho chinh minh thoi
nlclc: em san sang du em gan giong
nhu chi roi
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batron79: U chi biet roi Loc a
batron79: nhung chi so nhieu nguoi
hieu lam nhu em va roi ho buon
mariahuongbien: em thich ba con
minh ho^ bu nhu chi phuong oi
patxuan: Thu bat nat Huong a?
nlclc: em buon va noi voi chi
nhung cau luc nay vi em cung dang
mariahuongbien: ha noi that suy
nghi cua minh nh vay thi minh moi hieu nhau
nlclc: breakdown tram trong
mariahuongbien: qua do ta moi hieu
nhung nguoi khac chu
batron79: minh bat dong y kien voi
cac ban ko co nghia la minh xung dot voi ban dau nhe!
batron79: vay a?
batron79: chi thi ko the
batron79: Chua da lam cho chi
nhieu dieu lam
mariahuongbien: vang ,chi Xuan oi
,chi a ybat nat em nhung la bat nat "dang yeu lam " a
nlclc: nhung su bat dong cua chi
GIONG ...CUA EM
batron79: va chi rat hanh phuc ve
dieu do
nlclc: em biet TC lam cho em nhieu
nhung sao em dao nay kho gan TC wa
nlclc: du em biet YC dang o wanh
em
letter022002: biet duoc nhu vay la
tot roi Loc oi
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nlclc: noi ra ba con DUNG XIU NHA?
nlclc: EM DA HON 1 NAM WA K DI
xung toi !!!
letter022002: why
nlclc: do al dieu minh buon do thu
a
batron79: dieu do dau co nghia la
em bo Chua,
batron79: em van y thuc ve Chua
thuong em ma!
nlclc: vi xung xong minh cu pham
lai hoai
letter022002: nhung minh phai tim
nguyen nhan chu Loc
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letter022002: ai cung vay thoi Loc
a
letter022002: Thu cung vay
batron79: nhung quan trong la dieu
gi lam cam thay breakdown?
nlclc: ke ca viec o trong CLC
thich lam
patman852003: where am i
patman852003: ?
patman852003: ?
letter022002: neu minh khong pham
toi gi nua , minh la Thanh roi
patman852003: where
patman852003: hello
nlclc: nhung k hieu sao thich ra
hon
letter022002: ai cung co luc co
tam trang ay ca
batron79: cung co the la em ko
thich hop voi clc
batron79: cung co the thoi nhe
nlclc: em muon nghe loi DAY cua
tat ca
batron79: chi cung tung co suy
nghi nhu vay
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batron79: nhung ko co nghia la luc
do chi mat niem tin
mariahuongbien: BA CON THAN YEU
CUA TOI OI ! huongbien ve nhe ! chuc ba con binh an !
nlclc: nhung em lai thay CLC la 1
on goi trong em
letter022002: co rat nhieu ly do
de minh nghiu nhu vay Loc a
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nlclc: uhhh, chyao huong nhe
letter022002: chuc be Huong ve
binh an
nlclc: CHUC VUI KHOE
batron79: chi nghi la co 1 nguyen
nhan nao do sau xa hon de em cam thay nhu the
letter022002: nho lo an , lo ngu
do nhe em
mariahuongbien: lau roi ko di chia
se gio ga lai moi nguoi ,em vui lam lam
mariahuongbien: ga=gap
nlclc: em van k the nghi ra nguyen
nhan nao hay hon , sau xa hon ca
letter022002: neu nguoi da thay do
la on goi thi van de la xac dinh lai on goi ay Loc a
TungSoft: Bibi ba con
TungSoft: TungSoft dot thoi
TungSoft: chuc an lanh va hanh
phuc nhe'
letter022002: chuc Tungsoft lam
viec tot
nlclc: em chi biet la TC van o ben
canh dau do nhung em k con thay nua@@@
batron79: chi nghi 1 la em ko tien
noi ra nguyen nhan do,
batron79: 2 la em ko chiu thua
nhan no ma thoi
batron79: vi chi cam thay tinh
trang nay keo dai trong em lau roi phai ko?
nlclc: vang
nlclc: co le la 1 nam roi
batron79: vay thi ko co ly gi ma
em ko biet duoc nguyen nhan cua no
TungSoft: ;;)
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batron79: em dau phai la nguoi hoi
hot voi nhung gi dang dien ra voi chinh minh?
nlclc: nhung hinh nhu em chap
nhan!!!
nlclc: em cam thay viec bo kinh le
la chuyen thuong
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nlclc: va thuc su la em da bo 1 so
le CN va k doc kinh lau roi
nlclc: chi moi lam lai thoi
nlclc: nhung kho lam...
letter022002: hinh nhu Thu nho
khong lam thi truoc day cung co lan Loc cung bi nhu vay roi dung khong
letter022002: nhung co ve nhu lan
do khong nghiem trong nhu lan nay
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batron79: the em co tin la Chua
yeu em hon chinh em ko?
batron79: tra loi chi nhe!
nlclc: nhung lan nay hinh nhu wan
trong hon
batron79: em co tin la Chua ko bao
gio bo em cho du em the nao di chang nua ko?
truongdathoa left the room
nlclc: em van tin
letter022002: n loi nhieu
letter022002: chao moi nguoi , em
ve nhe
letter022002: chuc moi nguoi binh
an
letter022002: vui ve
letter022002: Loc oi , vai bua nhe
letter022002: hen gap lai nguoi
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vinhson81: Chao Thay nha con ve
day, chuc thay ngu ngon
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