Greenspun "Catholicism":
The Revenge Of The Neanderthals!
Michaelinum / Orthopapism II: Catholic Resistance Resource Center
I was searching for pictures of Pope St. Pius X, when I found the Greenspun "Catholic" Lists. And there, while idly going through the pages, I found a list entitled, "Is There Any Thing Worse Than War?" where mention of "Mahatma" Gandhi made my ears perk up. Therefore, I posted my pages on Gandhi, with no real intention of getting into the debate. However, my post, instead of merely bringing to the attention of the participants there, the true relation of Gandhi and of Christ, actually seemed to have touched a raw nerve with these folks.
My mistake was to think that I had stumbled on yet another group of people trying hard to be Catholic and to conform to the faith!
Sometimes, even I am exasterated with my own naivity! However, it seems to be an irremoveable habit.
Instead of a bunch of faithful seekers, I actually stumbled upon a nest of vicious heretics, Neo-Cons!
What exactly is a Neo-Con? He is described as a High-Church proponent of the Roman Antichurch — one who blindly defends the Heresiarchs of the Antichurch and their pretensions to be the Catholic Popes. But, after my first real — and direct — experience with these malignant pathogens, I know that this definition does not cover it all.
The Neo-Con, as I now understand, is one who has reacted to the Circus of the Antichurch by determinedly retreating into a world of make-believe — where, despite all evidence to the contrary, their heresiarchs are the Catholic Popes — and viciously attacks anyone who calls out the facts, tells the truth, because the truth destroys their world of make-believe!
In this he differs fundamentally from another class of men who react to this Circus by a deliberate spiritual sleep-walking!
Up until now, it is mostly these sleep-walkers whom I had encountered. The only of the vicious truth-haters whom I had yet encountered were John Loughnan, James Akin & William Grossklaus; also, in a way, Brian Harrison.
What is however evident, is that the heresiarchs of this sect are neither into sleepwalking, nor into a ham-handed defence of their wrong-doing, of a determined programme of mis-representing their own criminal acts as if legitimate. They, on the contrary, non-challantly and contemptuously steam ahead fornicating and perpetrating spiritual adultery!
What this experience has taught me is that this sub-section of this contemptible sect is made up of the most vicious philistines, who mendaciously cling to their Know-Nothingism against the expose of the Modernist Heresiarchs who masquerade as the Catholic Popes.
In this they pretend that they are being loyal and faithful, adhering and fulfilling the Catholic sensus of faithfully defending the Popes. But in fact, they act contrary to the faith, and, as self-certified defenders of "Catholicism", they ought to be aware of this fact.
It is unfortunate that, however, they are, in fact, "men with itching ears, who cannot abide sound doctrine, but who heap unto themselves teachers of every false doctrine", going forth with their High Priest of Bethel to fornicate at every temple of Baal!
But the richest joke is the utter stupidity of these Neo-Cons. I expressly said that I would not withdraw of by myself but that I sought to be kicked off the list. And I even emailed the Moderator of the Greenspun "Catholic" community, in order to point out that a request was made that I be kicked off, and that I sought it, and asking the Moderator to hurry up...
And yet, the pompous ass of this moderator thought that I was asking for a reprieve! Is there no end to the stupidity of these Neanderthals?
Lucio Mascarenhas
Without Comments:
Sophaster's Gospel
Gandhi Vs. Christ
St. Francis and the Hindus
CBCI statement on "Conversion & Missionising"
Gandhi as "OEcumenical Saint"
-- Lucio Mascarenhas ([email protected]), April 28, 2004.
Again:
Mohandas Karamchand Gandhi — The Naked Emperor
Lucio Mascarenhas, formerly "Prakash", Bombay, India.
-- Lucio Mascarenhas ([email protected]), April 28, 2004.
Lucio, that's interesting, but if you're going to insert links to schismatic churches please identify them as such. Some people might innocently think they are reading something from the real Catholic church until they see the gross disrespect to our Holy Father. ---Message Truncuated---
-- Peter K ([email protected]), April 28, 2004.
Peter K <[email protected]> wrote:"Lucio, that's interesting, but if you're going to insert links to schismatic churches please identify them as such. Some people might innocently think they are reading something from the real Catholic church until they see the gross disrespect to our Holy Father." Dear Peter,
Can you please elaborate: What "schismatic churches"? Which "holy father"?
Regards,
-- Lucio Mascarenhas ([email protected]), April 29, 2004.
Don't act dumb Lucio. A site that calls people in communion with the Pope "Novus Ordinarians", says "the Church does not exist in the New Order", calls Catholic priests in good standing "corrupt Novus Ordo presbyters" and our Holy Catholic church "counterfeit" etc etc can hardly claim to be part of that same Church. We have only one Holy Father Pope John Paul II.
-- Peter K ([email protected]), April 29, 2004.
There is a spiritual warfare raging all about the globe that no one even considers as the cause of all war, discord, unhappiness and misery. It is a war fought for souls, not power or oil. It is the educated opinion of Catholic biblical scholars that the final physical battle of this war will be fought on the soil of the Mideast nations. But much of the fine eschatological studies done in the earlier part of the 20th century were lost in the shuffle following Vatican II. Some believe the papal see will be "relocated" to Jerusalem in the near future and Rome will be abandoned or destroyed, although such a relocation has been proscribed by the Church Herself. Unjust though it may be, (and all modern wars are suspect, having the secret soceties as their true fomentors) it is my firm conviction, based on the works of these scholars, that the war in the Middle East will rage unchecked until it becomes World War III. This war will be the decisive battle for Satan, murderer of souls, and we should remember Christ's own words on this subject: Fear not him who murders the body, but those who murder the soul and cast both body and soul into hell.
Unjust war is a terrible thing, undoubtedly. But the successful campaign to war agaisnt the Church and capture as many souls as possible through trickery and deceit is far more loathesome and despicable. It is a war directly against God and His Church, a sin directly opposed to the first commandment. And since the commandments are listed in oder of importance, doesn't this sufficiently answer the original question?
-- Teresa Benns ([email protected]), April 29, 2004.
Peter,
There is no need for you to be insulting and call me "dumb", or "acting dumb". You assume too much. How do you apply the exalted title of Pope to such a vicious anti-Catholic and anti-Christian as Karol Wojtyla, when the Church itself has clearly spoken on the issue in the past? And if you accept this, why should anybody else accept it?
You assume too much. You said (with my editing):A site that calls people in communion with Wojtyla "Novus Ordinarians", says "the Church does not exist in the New Order", calls "Catholic" priests in good standing "corrupt Novus Ordo presbyters" and Wojtyla's sect "counterfeit" etc etc can hardly claim to be part of that same sect. Why should you assume that anybody who takes such a position would want to be part of that sect, led by the antichrist Wojtyla?
I first came to this site searching for pictures of St. Pius X, whom I love greatly, as I do all the legitimate popes. And I found some interesting discussions. I butted into this one only to put before the participants here something on "Mahatma" Gandhi, which few, if at all, are aware of. In the West, to the best of my knowledge, there is only an uninformed and sentimentalist hagiophilia towards Gandhi.
I avoided any other matter and only posted this subject, also giving two other pages in order to set the context. And instead of appreciating or disproving those pages, you go off on a tangent.
However, since we are here on this topic which you wish to discuss, I offer a page I had written for another discussion list in this same site: http://www.geocities.com/prakashjm45/realtradism.html
Lest there should be any doubts on the subject, I refer you to my website's homepage, http://www.geocities.com/prakashjm45/1index.html
After reading that, there should be no doubts as to where I stand.
Regards,
-- Lucio Mascarenhas ([email protected]), April 29, 2004.
Lucio, we 1.2 Billion members of the "sect" of the one holy catholic apostolic church don't drop hate-filled messages onto the websites of your ten-thousand member sect and call your leader the Antichrist. We'll thank you to pay us and our leader the same courtesy.
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-- Peter K ([email protected]), April 29, 2004.
Peter K [email protected] wrote, April 29, 2004:Lucio, we 1.2 Billion members of the "sect" of the one holy catholic apostolic church don't drop hate-filled messages onto the websites of your ten-thousand member sect and call your leader the Antichrist. We'll thank you to pay us and our leader the same courtesy. Dear Peter,
You may or may not be a member of a "1.2 billion" strong sect, but that is not really relevant. Only the truth is. At no time ever in history, has even a clean majority of men living on earth been members of the true Church. Enoch was alone, Noe had a few, etc., etc.
Your sect I have already demonstrated, in the pages I have posted, has no connection with the one holy catholic and apostolic church. Your sect - the sect of the Lying Pole - is neither one, nor holy, nor catholic nor apostolic. Not any more than the Old Catholics, Feeneyites, Jacobites, Nestorians, Byzantines, Lutherans, Calvinists, Baptists, Anglicans, Pentecostals, Jehovah's Witnesses, Mormons, and a hundred thousand other sects.
If you have any problems with what I have posted, it will be better if you systematically contradicted what I have posted, instead of indulging in vain sophistry.
I care a hoot for any courtesy. I am only obliged to Christ and to His truth. I make no ecumenical courtesies, and ask for none. If you wish to slander and indulge in namecalling, please do not let anybody stop you. Your threats of namecalling will not stop the true Christian from his obligation to witness to the truth. We are not afraid of being slandered, we are afraid only of betraying the Lord and His Gospel for human respect.
Regards,
Lucio Mascarenhas, Bombay.
-- Lucio Mascarenhas ([email protected]), April 30, 2004.
The Pope has told no lies. What we have here is a failure of communication, of distinction, and of expectations. Those who claim he's not the vicar of Christ or who think the Church founded by Christ on the apostles - is not the Catholic Church, are not playing with a full deck. Disagreeing with someone's prudential decisions - such as about politics or geo-politics is one thing. Disagreeing about matters of faith and morals is entirely different.
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-- Joe ([email protected]), April 30, 2004.
Dear Moderator:
Why is the coward from the east being allowed to blaspheme our holy faith and publish slurs against the Holy Father? EIGHTY-SIX; please-- The Old Heave- ho, right away. Goodbye Lucio; Ciao and don't go away mad. Just go away.
-- eugene c. chavez ([email protected]), April 30, 2004.
Joe <[email protected]> wrote:The Pope has told no lies. What we have here is a failure of communication, of distinction, and of expectations. Those who claim he's not the vicar of Christ or who think the Church founded by Christ on the apostles - is not the Catholic Church, are not playing with a full deck. Disagreeing with someone's prudential decisions - such as about politics or geo-politics is one thing. Disagreeing about matters of faith and morals is entirely different. Eugene C. Chavez [email protected] wrote:Dear Moderator: Why is the coward from the east being allowed to blaspheme our holy faith and publish slurs against the Holy Father? EIGHTY-SIX; please-- The Old Heave- ho, right away. Goodbye Lucio; Ciao and don't go away "The Pope has told no lies" I did not allege that the Pope did. And, if my understanding of the Doctrine of the Papacy is correct, a Pope can sin, tell lies, and commit far worse sins, without losing his position as the Pope.mad. Just go away.
In case anybody wants it, I will freely certify that it is my faith that the Pope is the Vicar of Christ, that he possesses the Gift of Infallibility, according to the definitions of the Holy and Ecumenical Council of the Vatican, 1869-1870, that Christ founded His Church on His Apostles, and more especially upon St. Peter, that the Successors of Peter in the See of Rome possess direct and universal and supreme jurisdiction over all the faithful, and that this Church is the Catholic Church, and that it is indefectible - not that all who are or were Catholics possess thereby individual or communal indefectibility, for parts small and large can fall away, but in the whole, etc., etc.
I also affirm that the Doctrines of the Church are always to be accepted in the sense that the Church has once defined, and I deny and anathematise along with the Popes and the Councils the contrary error that the meaning of Doctrines evolve and change.
I affirm with Pope Boniface VIII, as he taught in his Constitution Unam Sanctam:"We declare, say, define, and pronounce that it is absolutely necessary for the salvation of every human creature to be subject to the Roman Pontiff"
Reply continued: http://www.geocities.com/prakashjm45/realcatholicism.html
-- Lucio Mascarenhas ([email protected]), May 02, 2004.
Via Email
To: [email protected]
Dear Sir,
As the moderator, you have been invoked to get me kicked off.
Please see this page: http://www.geocities.com/prakashjm45/realcatholicism.html
It seems that you are too pre-occupied to pay attention when you are invoked. Therefore, this mail...
What you must do, hurry up and do!
Yours anxiously,
-- Lucio Mascarenhas ([email protected]), May 02, 2004.
Very strange Lucio. You're quite happy to be absolutely subject to someone you think is the Antichrist. Thank you Eugene for helping me handle this "ratbag" as we call them in Aus.
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-- Peter K ([email protected]), May 02, 2004.
Dear Peter,
I am not "absolutely subject to to someone I think is the Antichrist." I am subject to the True Pope. I absolutely reject the Antichrist. The True Pope is His Holiness, Michael, by the grace of God, Pope. (The Vatican-In-Exile)
I find that this intellectual fencing with one who is working hard at being an idiot is, to say the least, very tiring.
-- Lucio Mascarenhas ([email protected]), May 02, 2004.
Via Email
To: "Lucio Mascarenhas" [email protected]
Sorry, but my decision stands. Please refrain from posting in the future.
Ed ([email protected]), May 02, 2004.
Well Lucio, I've had enough. It appears you have not read our "Rules of the Forum" thread. You obviously have come here to incite and provoke for reasons, we as a group, do not consider pro-Catholic. Perhaps it's time you found some other venue that is more tolerant of your beliefs. Please refrain from posting further to this forum.
Moderator
-- Ed ([email protected]), May 02, 2004.
Lucio's messages have been removed.(Tsk, tsk. Bad boy!)Moderator
-- Ed ([email protected]), May 02, 2004.
Via Email
To: "[email protected]" [email protected]
Dear Sir,
You are kind. Thank you!
Lucio MascarenhasSorry, but my decision stands. Please refrain from posting in the future.
Ed ([email protected]), May 02, 2004.
Ah! I did not know that there was a "Rules of the Forum" page. I still don't know — because when my kind host drew my attention, and I went looking around for it, I still could not find it!
As a matter of fact, I think it does not exist!
Lucio Mascarenhas
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