India Vs. Goa

©Prakash John Mascarenhas, Bombay. 6^th November 2003. This page is copyright!

From: [email protected]
To: [email protected]
Subject: Ur article:response
Date: Wed, 05 Nov 2003 13:27:54 +0530

Dear Sir,

I read your article posted on http://www.geocities.com/prakashjm45/indiangoa2.html. And I have to say I have to agree with every word of it. I completely agree goans are a lot different than regular indians as you would call them. But then would you please care to explain what is a regular indian?

Maharashtrans are different from regular indians, kasmiri's are different from regular indians, manipuri's are different from regular indians every state is different from a regular indian. There is no regular indian. That is the beauty of India. I fail to understand haw such an insighted person as you doesnot see it. People like yourself who beleive in gaining independence from india and beleive that you are different are usually of two types I beleive.

1.) People who gain politically and monetarily by putting forward such thoughts.

2.) People who have been ill treated by the government at some point of time.

Type 1 are the type of people we have to fight out because they dont really care about anybody but themselves.

Without loss of generality I would assume you are a person of type 2. In that case I would like to remind you the people who ill treated you couldnot have possibly done it without the help of one of your fellow goans. So then this means that one of your fellow goans is equally responsible for what happened as is the rest of india.

Why then do you put the entire blame on india? Why on the government? What makes you think that if ever goa is free from the indian government that you will be treated better. Would you ask for a free panaji from the goan government if it ill treats you. You may call such people as traitors to goa, I disagree, I beleive such people are traitors to humanity.

It is not hard to see that India is a country of astonishing diversities, there can be no one person image of india. We have to realise that the indian government faces a extremely difficult task of uniting so many cultures and minorities. Government is like a large cold palace that can provide you with security from outside, it cannot answer to your personal needs. It is the goan state government and you that have to do so. No 2 states in india have the same dialect, culture or history. Infact within states it self we can find tremendous variation from one village to other. I agree therefore that you are different, every indian, sir, is different, and ours is the only government in the world that recognises the right of an individual to be different. It is the traitors to humanity we have to fight not the government.

Date: Thu, 6 Nov 2003 17:00:20 +0000 (GMT)
From: "P.J.M."
Subject: Re: Response to article
To: [email protected]

Also, http://www.geocities.com/prakashjm45/rajgupta.html

Mr. "Guy-in-One",

You have missed the central point of my pages on this subject, even of the particular page that you quote. And that is that Goa is not legally a part of India, that India has illegally occupied Goa.

I rely upon arguments from law, morality and principles to prove myself. But to answer your other points:

Goans are different because of their Lusitanian connection, which makes them exotic to the Indians themselves despite their fervent claims - more to convince themselves than others - that Goans are automatically identical with Indians!

Goans are also different because they belong to or are legally constituents and citizens of a different legal entity, state or nation than India, and because it is India which is the greatest enemy of Goa and the Goan people - because of India's malicious and baseless claims and pretensions on Goa and on the loyalties of Goans and because of its immoral and illegal occupation of Goa, etc.

The "Beauty" of India leaves me cold.

I DO NOT believe in "gaining Independence" from India. There is an important distinction in my case, from that position. My case is that India did not have and does not have any legal or moral claim or basis to rule Goa, that India is illegally occupying Goa, and that this illegal and immoral occupation must be vacated. That position is very different from the concept of independence - which is secession. Goa cannot secede from India for the simple reason that Goa is not a part of India.

As to your positioning of your two "categories": I do not belong to either.

It does not matter that some Goans too collaborated and were party to India's invasion and occupation of Goa. That does not make this legal or moral. These persons merely certified themselves Goan traitors, quislings.

How the situation handles out in Goa is no concern of Indians.

Whether Goa is "viable" or not is not any concern of India or Indians. Internal difficulties of or with some Goan minority segment(s) with the majority segment(s) is of no concern to India or Indians.

Men have the right to be concerned in their neighbours' affairs, only in so far as it concerns their common humanity. However, because India has sinned - and continues to sin - against Goa, and thus against humanity, it has no right to pretend any concern in Goan affairs - whether motivated by law, morality or concerns for the common welfare of humanity. Goan patriots will not stand for it.

I do not care a damn about the Indian government's "difficulties" in "uniting" so many cultures and "minorities". We Goans have not asked to be invaded, occupied and to be assimiliated, and all talk of India's difficulties in its fulfilling its agenda of crime and misanthropy leaves us cold. And since we have never legitimized the occupation, such talk is meaningless.

As a Goan, I entirely sympathize with other nations victimized by India. Specifically, I thought that only the Nagas and the Sikkimese had any legitimate grounds, but now I have convincing evidence that India did to Manipur and the Khasi States, for example, what it had done to Sikkim latter in 1974... a forged, forced accession where a king is forced to cede to India at gunpoint. I consider that all these actions are illegal, immoral, null and void.

You display enormous ignorance when you repeat the old lie spoon-fed in Indian schools by the Indian government - that "ours is the only government in the world that recognises the right of an individual to be different." I will not even attempt to answer that fantastic nonsense, the foolishness of which should be so apparent to one reading the daily newspapers... to any sane, rational and major human being living in the 21st century.

This attitude is the same old frog-in-the-well attitude. You will do yourself a great deal of good by junking the official mythologies of Indian nationalism, moral (read Gandhian / Nehruvian / Socialist / Secularist, etc.) or racial (Varnashrama and Manusmriti's dismissal of all non-Indians as Mlecchas - Barbarians) superiorities, etc., taught you in school and at home, in the press and on Indian state t.v., and begin to interact with people around the world and study them, their histories and their current affairs. You will then see what a foul mess of lies you have been raised upon!

Yours sincerely,

P.J. Mascarenhas, Goan patriot.
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