"Behind the Scenes" of
Survivor on the Net VI-- *PAGE
2 of 4*
The following text is what was going on behind the scenes of our all-star game.
You'll find the Jet Point e-mails that the hosts received and many secret Instant Messages and e-mails.
ENJOY ALL PAGES!!! You have hours of good reading here!!
Where else can you find such a detailed view of our players experience??...
NO WHERE ELSE!!

The counter is to measure the amount of people interested in these pages.
MOVE TO THE SECOND PAGE OF
"BEHIND THE SCENES" OF SOTN VI >>>
PAGE 1, PAGE 2, PAGE 3, PAGE 4.
PLEASE NOTE!!!: Keep in mind that there may be more than what you're reading in certain conversations and emails. If you were a player don't jump to any irrational or unproven conclusions. The point to these pages is for entertainment purposes only, they're not meant to start feuds! Please keep this in mind when reading!
SECOND NOTE: The text boxes are color coded only to allow for easier reading, they don't signify tribal assignments.
Date: Fri, 12 Jul 2002 19:47:39 -0700 (PDT)
From:  "Joseph Williams" <[email protected]>
Subject: Chillin' In the Desert....
To: The Hosts

     

*Flashback to a conversation Andrew and Joseph have after tribal council has ended but before the results are released....*

Me: i'm back
ptcruisn56: lol
Me: sooo..... what's the update on SOTN VI
Me: we still don't have TC results, but Andy C. will be gone
Me: so..... is kyle gonna be next to go?
Me: hopefully we'll win the next challenge
ptcruisn56: yea kyle is
Me: i'm still fearing a tribal switch
Me: kewl
ptcruisn56: so am i, right after next tc
Me: yeah
Me: when there's 16 people left
ptcruisn56: yup
Me: i'm thinking jet points will be the next IC too
ptcruisn56: hopefully lol
Me: they may have not if we would have won the last IC because of such a big advantage
Me: but i'm thinking they'll do it now, so the two tribes will be of 8...... then the switch will come
ptcruisn56: lol
ptcruisn56: yea that would suck
Me: yea..... but it's part of the game

*We go to Joseph sitting on a sand dune.... giving his opinion....as his last statement echos all over the desert...*

Joseph: The twist is coming soon. It will be interesting to say the least. The game is going good with me right now. Not a whole lotta updates from me. I'm ready to get out of the frickin' desert. Get me to the mountains! But I know the day we get to the mountains will be the day the whole game gets rocky. It really is pretty obvious. But don't change the gameplan because of my great intuition! It's all good. I'm just hoping I can..... wait..... hold on..... technically if we do a tribal switch, it would be the first merger.... and I could get Spongebob back!!!!!! AND THERE'S STREAMS ON THE MOUNTAINS! SO I COULD GET SEAFOOD! JARED!!!!! I HAVE DEFEATED YOU ONCE AGAIN!!!! Anyways.... back to the game, it's all good for me right now. The Immunity Challenges aren't falling our way because of a couple people doing everything on the other tribe. I have a feeling of who those people are, so maybe me and my tribe can get rid of them in the switch. I'm pretty much done for now..... peace out! I'll check back in shortly!!!

Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 14:31:43 -0700 (PDT)
From:  "Joseph Williams" <[email protected]>
Subject: Convo with Andrew
To: The Hosts

*Joseph is walkng through the desert for one of the last times. He talks to the camera as he walks.....*

Joseph: Well, this time has goe by fast. Our tribe did well. We won the Reward Challenges, and we split the immunity challenges. I formed an alliance. Mag and Linda are still in the game. So everything is looking up for me as we approach this first merger. I have 6 people other than me that will vote how I will vote. As long as I get with 3 of them, we'll have at least a 4-4 tie with the other tribe in there! Besides, I'm sure some of the other tribe that I know wouldn't mind coming with me! This is all looking up! Plus, I'll have Spongebob back in no time!!! IT'S ALL GOOD!

Jared: NO IT'S NOT!

*Jared hops out of a sand dune....*

Jared: I'm taking Spongebob to Iceland! You can get him there!

Joseph: YOU LIAR!

*Joseph jumps at Jared and tries to tackle him. But Jared is too large! Joseph takes Jared's bag and looks inside. It's just a bunch of sandwiches!*

Joseph: What have you done to Spongebob?

Jared: He's in the mountains! If you start talking nice about Subway, you'll get him back!

Joseph: NEVER!!!!

Jared: JOIN THE DARK SIDE! I AM YOUR FATHER!

Joseph: NOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

*Joseph wakes up and realizes he passed out from the heat and dehydration while talking to the camera. He gets up, brushes himself off.....*

Joseph: I'll get Spongebob back, right??

*WILL JOSEPH GET SPONGEBOB BACK? WILL JOSEPH BE SAFE AFTER THE SWITCH? FIND OUT SOON!!!!!*


From: Chrissy - [email protected]
Date: Mon, 15 Jul 2002 18:52:16 EDT
Subject: Re: We Lost!
To: [email protected], [email protected][email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]


I dunno, but what I learned is that no matter how hard some of us tried with the Jet points, and to get everyone to communicate, it still didnt work. I personally am happy that we gained some ground, but kinda peeved that we didnt get the inactive people to participate...

ALSO: I have nothing to do with Darren's statement. Plus I knew that if people werent going to try, we werent going to get the points. It is as simple as that. It wasnt a set up for the other tribe to win, it wasnt anyones fault but our own. We didnt communicate like we should, we knew a challenge such as this one was looming on the horizon, and we lost. Some of us even figured we were going to lose due to lack of communication within the tribe. So why Darren are you so suprised? LOL
Chrissy


Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002
From:  "Joseph Williams" <[email protected]>
Subject: What We Need to Do...
To: The Hosts


Alright all the former Svidandi people, both Marumba and Paguchi have a 4-4 ratio of the old tribes. Those of you on Paguchi have it easy. I have very very good  reason to believe that Andy Z. is thinking about quitting the game, so go after him first. Also, I know that Will hates his old tribe and will turn on them in a heartbeat. So get him in with you guys and you should all be safe and able to make it to the next stage in the game. As for us over here on the Marumba Side (Andrew, Diego, Mag, and myself), we have it a little more difficult. We're going up against Darren, Evan, Phil, and Derek! I don't expect these 4 to be too much competition, but the main purpose of this e-mail is to make sure that everyone agrees that the 8 remaining members of Svidandi stay in this game until the final 8! I think we have a chance to do that because Zeb talked about inactive players, and we don't have any on Svidandi, so they musta been on Yanomamo! I think we are pretty safe, but we need to be careful!

- Joseph

ANDREW'S REPLY: Good idea Joseph, I'm pretty sure we need to get the original svi to the final 8, and it would be better if we didn't lose this next challenge!

-Andrew

MAG's REPLY: Ohhhhhhhh Joseph I knew I liked ya for a reason...... I totally agree -- "Svidandi" needs to stick together and use our "team power" on our respective tribes!!!!!!!!!!!! If we do this -- we can ALL go into the merge as our original tribe!!

MAG

Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 14:04:52 -0400
From: [email protected]
To: Linda
Subject: Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh 

Linda ~
Wahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh we are on different tribes!?!?!??!?!?? Thats ok -- we still need to stick together right sweetie???? I didnt see you online today........ must be a wild Friday night for you!
Anyway --- I hope to talk to you this weekend if I get a chance...... if not -- talk to you next week!!!!!!!!

Love mag


Date: Fri, 19 Jul 2002 19:41:32 -0700 (PDT)
From:  "derek gyongzois" <[email protected]>
Subject: statagy and cofesstions
To: Hosts


I am starting a new strategy to lay low and do whatever possible to help with the challenges and meet the new people in the ne tribe and make the ones i know still know i know them and make a new alliance and get things going.  My cofession is that i thought that i would be out of the game by noe.  I thought i would get more votes in the last challenge, and be voted off becvuase i am horrible at doing jet points bur i am not the weakest link becuase someone is lower then me on the todem pole. i will get more i will not have tons but i will get to 100 points before i get kicked off or win the game. 

derek
IM CONVO BETWEEN WILL and CHRISSY
wuntain (04:28:04 PM): we didn't edn up so bad
wuntain (04:33:00 PM): 3 of our alliance members on the tribe
sobeme25 (04:28:11 PM): lol
sobeme25 (04:28:12 PM): nah
sobeme25 (04:28:16 PM): Lost darren
sobeme25 (04:28:22 PM): but gained Linda
sobeme25 (04:28:48 PM): we ended up on my original tribe lol
wuntain (04:33:52 PM): hehe neat
sobeme25 (04:29:18 PM): now Im gonna have to rearrange my contact list lol
sobeme25 (04:29:44 PM): we still have andy right?
sobeme25 (04:29:49 PM): but not phil
wuntain (04:34:52 PM): yeah
wuntain (04:34:55 PM): andy's been gone a while
wuntain (04:34:56 PM): so has marie
sobeme25 (04:30:27 PM): andy will be back tho
sobeme25 (04:30:46 PM): do you have the yahoo id's on the other players or should I look them up lol
wuntain (04:35:42 PM): I have them
wuntain (04:35:51 PM): frb1000
wuntain (04:35:55 PM): mrbigstuff0216
wuntain (04:35:59 PM): steveblackman77
wuntain (04:36:02 PM): none of which I know whose who
sobeme25 (04:31:25 PM): I know FRB
sobeme25 (04:31:33 PM): we were in sotn 2 together
wuntain (04:36:56 PM): Ah? Good
sobeme25 (04:33:18 PM): dont remember lol
sobeme25 (04:33:38 PM): you dont have Linda's id do you
wuntain (04:38:33 PM): yah
sobeme25 (04:33:47 PM): k
sobeme25 (04:33:49 PM): need that one too
wuntain (04:38:45 PM): mmy_al69
sobeme25 (04:34:34 PM): is derek still on our team?
sobeme25 (04:34:41 PM): <forgot what the email said
wuntain (04:39:47 PM): no
wuntain (04:39:49 PM): he's not
sobeme25 (04:38:36 PM): ok
sobeme25 (04:38:38 PM): other team then
wuntain (04:43:39 PM): yeah
wuntain (04:43:43 PM): he'll probably get the boot
sobeme25 (04:38:57 PM): lol
sobeme25 (04:39:00 PM): yup
wuntain (04:43:52 PM): should we go for the strick tribal lines?
wuntain (04:43:59 PM): or consider a merge of the tribes?
wuntain (04:44:02 PM): i'd prefer the later but.
sobeme25 (04:39:15 PM): hmmm
sobeme25 (04:39:16 PM): well
sobeme25 (04:39:30 PM): first we have to find out if anyone lost thier alliance or now
sobeme25 (04:39:32 PM): not*
wuntain (04:44:36 PM): ahh, yeah
sobeme25 (04:40:41 PM): its complicated isnt it
sobeme25 (04:40:44 PM): lol
sobeme25 (04:40:51 PM): thers about 20 ways to do this
sobeme25 (04:41:49 PM): bleh
wuntain (04:47:43 PM): yah..quite
sobeme25 (04:44:25 PM): well you, and I are still allied right
wuntain (04:49:21 PM): but of course
sobeme25 (04:44:52 PM):
sobeme25 (04:44:56 PM): just making sure lol
sobeme25 (04:45:07 PM): bleh my foot in numb
wuntain (04:50:13 PM): I hate that, when body parts fall asleep hehe
sobeme25 (04:45:29 PM): yup
sobeme25 (04:45:33 PM): aggravating lol
sobeme25 (04:49:19 PM): have you talked to anyone else in the new tribe about it
sobeme25 (04:49:24 PM): well
sobeme25 (04:49:28 PM): noone else is on lol
wuntain (04:54:19 PM): not yet, no one has been on.
sobeme25 (04:49:34 PM): <smacks head>
wuntain (04:54:27 PM): I think we got stuck with a bunch of inactives though
wuntain (04:54:32 PM): so hopefully we can appeal to Linda
sobeme25 (04:49:45 PM): crap please dont say that
sobeme25 (04:49:50 PM): yea
wuntain (04:54:43 PM): Linda and I were GREAT friends in so3.
sobeme25 (04:49:58 PM): ohh
sobeme25 (04:50:07 PM): well see if we can get her to join wit us
wuntain (04:54:58 PM): until I voted her out at 5th place
wuntain (04:55:01 PM): but 5th place isn't BAD
sobeme25 (04:50:14 PM): oh
wuntain (04:55:04 PM): we still are friendly
sobeme25 (04:50:18 PM): I was in sotn 3 too
sobeme25 (04:50:20 PM): lol
wuntain (04:55:26 PM): Yeah,  on...the other tribe
wuntain (04:55:29 PM): they voted you out, i'm not sure why
sobeme25 (04:50:43 PM): I know why
wuntain (04:55:39 PM): why?
sobeme25 (04:50:52 PM): I was acitve for the first two
sobeme25 (04:50:54 PM): challenges
sobeme25 (04:50:58 PM): kicked some butt
sobeme25 (04:51:06 PM): then I had some uhm
wuntain (04:55:59 PM): yeah, you guys wont he second challenge
sobeme25 (04:51:18 PM): computer or real life problems... (forgot which)
sobeme25 (04:51:28 PM): and dissapeared
wuntain (04:56:24 PM): ah.
sobeme25 (04:51:40 PM): I believe that was it
wuntain (04:56:58 PM): they won their only challenge with you
sobeme25 (04:53:01 PM): LOL
sobeme25 (04:53:05 PM): wasnt that wierd
wuntain (04:57:59 PM): hehe
sobeme25 (04:53:14 PM): <snickers<
sobeme25 (04:53:32 PM): they really really got thier asses kicked
sobeme25 (04:53:37 PM): and I laughed the whole time
wuntain (04:58:32 PM): hehe.
wuntain (04:58:41 PM): I was so glad to vote Diego out before her hit the merger
wuntain (04:58:44 PM): it was fabulous hehe
sobeme25 (04:54:02 PM): lol
wuntain (04:58:48 PM): erm
wuntain (04:58:49 PM): not merger
wuntain (04:58:50 PM): jury
sobeme25 (04:54:07 PM): LOL
wuntain (04:59:19 PM): going into a merger 7-3 creates a buncha things..
sobeme25 (04:54:36 PM): lol
wuntain (04:59:32 PM): never woulda thought that adam...maybe adam I forgot his name, would be with us to the final 4
wuntain (04:59:34 PM): erm..3
sobeme25 (04:56:13 PM): lol

IM CONVO BETWEEN JOSEPH and ANDREW:

Me: what's the plan for SOTN?
Me: ????????
ptcruisn56: well im thinking if we lose, darren
Me: really?
ptcruisn56: why not? you'd rather philip? pre-merge is almost over and i dont need a josh trying to win every TC
ptcruisn56: IC*
Me: true..... but there still hasn't been a pass the monkey challenge
Me: and you know it's coming
Me: they send it to phil and we're screwed
ptcruisn56: i know then philip would be the choice
Me: what about phil, then darren
ptcruisn56: thats fine, then derek, lol neither philip nor derek have talked to me
Me: i've talked to derek
Me: alright....
Me: we need to get rid of inactive, then the threats
ptcruisn56: ok
Me: cuz i don't see us winning the rest of the ICs
Me: i expect us to go back to TC twice before merge
Me: that would give us room to dump phil and darren
Me: we need to make sure marie and chrissy don't make it far over there
Me: they both have IC run potentia
Me: *potential
ptcruisn56: lol why is marie still in they dont see her as a threat
Me: yea
Me: i dunno
Me: she must have some kind of bubbly mag-like personality... lol
ptcruisn56: i kinda hope we win this one and they target marie
ptcruisn56: lol
Me: like.... why did Taylor (E-Survivor II Winner) make the finals of E-Survivor VII All-Stars?
Me: that one keeps me awake at night.... lol..... j//k
ptcruisn56: lol hey whats the e-survivor website?
Me: http://www.geocities.com/mountainart/index.html
Me: that's one of the VERY first online games
Me: before steve's games
ptcruisn56: was steve one of the firsts? i know i was one of the firsts on egame...lol
Me: steve's e-survivor was one of the firsts
Me: your's came not long after
Me: but sam's E-Survivor was one of the first
Me: 9 games
Me: only one was unsuccessful and sam didn't host it
ptcruisn56: cool
ptcruisn56: i gotta apply for one
ptcruisn56: lol
ptcruisn56: one of the first 9 games cool
Me: i won the 4th one
ptcruisn56: cool
Me: all those sites are interesting
ptcruisn56: im applying
Me: all of them were good games
Me: yeah.... he's gonna do a 10th
Me: well..... i'm gonna go.... later
Yahoo! Messenger: ptcruisn56 has logged out. (7/26/02 at 9:51 PM)

ANOTHER IM CONVO BETWEEN JOSEPH and ANDREW:
ptcruisn56: andrew
Me: ah.... lucky you
Me: i was about to take it down.... lol
ptcruisn56: yea three point i know of
ptcruisn56: wonder who they will vote out
ptcruisn56: i wonder, if everyone is inactive over at paguchi
ptcruisn56: the final 5 could be you, me, mag, diego, and adam
Me: that sounds good to me
Me: since mitch seems to be MIA
ptcruisn56: mia?
Me: missing in action
ptcruisn56: oh ok
Me: tomorrow is jet points, hopefully we will win
ptcruisn56: really..do you know when we merge?
Me: we go to Iceland after the jet point IC tomorrow and the next Tribal Council
Me: i dunno if we will merge then, or if we will stay tribal, or switch? i dunno
Me: but mag, me, you, diego, adam sounds good
ptcruisn56: ok
Me: that's a solid final 5
Me: i'll be happy getting past the final 7... lol
Me: that's the stage that always kills me
Me: i've played 3 survivor games prior to this
Me: i won the first, and got screwed by an alliance at the final 7 point in the other 2
ptcruisn56: i always usually get killed in the final 5 or last tc before merge
Me: when we merge, we need to get chrissy
ptcruisn56: really, is she good?
Me: yea
Me: she's the only fully active member paguchi has
Me: she has to go
Me: darren knows his number is up soon... he told me today something about "hoping tribal lines aren't played in this game"
ptcruisn56: adam isnt completely active yet he still is active
ptcruisn56: lol
ptcruisn56: i told mag we would take her in
ptcruisn56: a while back]
ptcruisn56: we cant over do it though
Me: an alliance of 5 is all we'd need
ptcruisn56: ok
Me: but we could string others along if needed
Me: mag won't vote against linda
Me: that's a given
ptcruisn56: exactly
Me: hmmm....
Me: what are you thinking as far as final 4 goes?
ptcruisn56: ok is the final 4 you, me, adam, diego?
Me: i always implied that was it, but i dunno
ptcruisn56: ok thats fine with me
ptcruisn56: i say we get rid of adam...then have one of us win the final 3 i and take out diego
Me: seriously?
Me: you're not just BSing me here
Me: cuz that would be ideal for me
Me: me and you in the finals
ptcruisn56: is that not good...? Final 4, we take out Adam. Final 3, Diego goes we are in the finals
ptcruisn56: im serious
Me: alright
Me: i was told not to trust you, but i have no choice and i'm going to
ptcruisn56: who said that?
Me: Stella..... lol
Me: of course, yall hate each other
ptcruisn56: just because i was a jack-ass in sotn5 and backstabbed her doesnt mean im always like that
Me: i've trusted you since day 1 and you've given me no choice to think otherwise
ptcruisn56: same here with you
Me: alright..... i'm gonna trust you!
ptcruisn56: ok you me in the final 2
Me: it's just a game.... and you never fully know anyone online
Me: that's a deal
ptcruisn56: ok this is a deal, i swear
Me: i'm in!
Me: it's a deal
ptcruisn56: ok lets do it
Me: alright
Me: let's take this thing to the end and see how the chips fall
Me: we're the two most cutthroat people in the game
ptcruisn56: lol yes we are
ptcruisn56: andy is who adam voted for
Me: oh ok
Me: paguchi is going to self-destruct.... 'nough said
ptcruisn56: lol
ptcruisn56: only two votes
Me: i'm pretty sure we have the jet points wrapped up
Me: they don't communicate over there except for chrissy
Me: that gives us a 7-5 advantage
Me: marumba to paguchi
ptcruisn56: but are we eliminating paguchi, or going on svi rootes? (with the exception of chrissy)
Me: when i said get chrissy earlier, i meant get chrissy out
Me: i said that wrong
Me: she's a threat
Me: i'm guessing going along svi lines
Me: is it just me, or does this seem TOO easy
Me: lol
ptcruisn56: it seems way to easy, especially in an all-star game
ptcruisn56: nobody else could have anything right?
Me: nope
ptcruisn56: i dont think so either
ptcruisn56: paguchi is dead
ptcruisn56: darren, phil, and derek are powerless
Me: yeah
Me: the only possible threat to us is a revolt to destroy only us
Me: so let's be like danielle and jason... we'll play it off...i'm a christian, so i'll be jason
Me: but darn it, you don't look good like danielle so we're up a creek without a paddle... lol
Me: anyways, we should be in the clear
Me: we just can't afford any screw-ups
ptcruisn56: ok nobody real knows we talk this much to each other do they?
Me: nope
Me: except zeb
ptcruisn56: well with what darren knows we dont like eachother
Me: so i take it you've talked to me the most
Me: lol
Me: yea
ptcruisn56: yup you then probably a three way tie with mag/adam/diego
Me: yeah
Me: u there?
Me: back, i see
Me: anyways, it looks like we have ourselves a deal
Me: why can't zeb just skip to the end right now
Me: lol
Yahoo! Messenger: ptcruisn56 has logged back in. (7/31/02 at 10:18 PM)
ptcruisn56: back again
Me: are you back for real now?
ptcruisn56: yes lol connection troubles
Me: anyways, we have ourselves a deal
ptcruisn56: yes we do
Me: alright
Me: what's funny about it is.... it seems so easy that it would be dumb for either one of us to turn on each other
ptcruisn56: it would be dumb because everyone would try something then
Me: yep
Me: it may be good for ratings, but not good for our success in this game
Me: lol
ptcruisn56: i know lol
Me: well..... i'm done for now
Me: i'll talk to ya later
Me: you're in the lead on the SBBTAMR challenge
Me: peace out
ptcruisn56: see ya
Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 12:44:26 -0700 (PDT)
From:  "Joseph Williams" <[email protected]>
Subject: I Think We Should Vote...
To: Hosts, "Andrew SOTN/Tribe2" <[email protected]>, "Diego SOTN/Tribe2" <[email protected]>, "Mag SOTN/Tribe2" <[email protected]>
     
I think we should vote out Evan. It's an obvious choice. We're going to have to win some of these tribal challenges and to do that, we can't have Evan around. He's obviously not coming back, and he's probably going to give himself a self-vote. So I'm going to give my vote to Evan.

- Joseph


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 22:14:52 -0700 (PDT)
From:  "Joseph Williams" <[email protected]>
Subject: Interesting Stuff!! Convo with Derek
To: Host and "Andrew SOTN/Tribe2" <[email protected]>

      
Hey Andrew, I asked Derek who he voted for and this is what I got out of him. It seems Darren is running the show with them!

- Joseph

Derek Marumba: andrew
Me: oh really....
Me: hmmmm..... may I ask why?
Derek Marumba: this funny but for no reason but everybody from my old tribe foted for him
Me: oh..... well.....
Me: even Evan?
Derek Marumba: at least that who darren voted for I think that we should vote for Andrew, he is inactive in another Game!

I am casting my vote for Andrew, I hope thats OK

~Darren


Me: hmmmmm.....
Me: oh well
Me: I guess we'll find out soon who is gone
Derek Marumba: that is the amial i got, do't tell anyone i told
Me: alright
Derek Marumba: if you donot mind me asking who did you vote for
Me: Evan
Me: he didn't show up for the challenge
Derek Marumba: ok i was not sure who did not show up i thought it was andrew lol
Me: oh....
Derek Marumba: yes i also made a flag for the new challange
Me: really?
Me: AWESOME!
Me: did you send it in?
Derek Marumba: yes i put it in the group for others to see it
Me: i'll check it out
Derek Marumba: ok
Me: i'm back
Me: well.... evan's gone
Yahoo! Messenger: derekg87 has logged back in. (7/24/02 at 12:16 AM)
Me: i gotta go... ttyl
Me: well... evan's gone
Derek Marumba: ok
Me: i'm outta here
Derek Marumba: i have to get to my email
Me: the flag looks cool
Derek Marumba: thanks
Me: ttyl


Date: Tue, 23 Jul 2002 22:17:25 -0700 (PDT)
From:  "Joseph Williams" <[email protected]>
Subject: Well Svidandi.....
To: Hosts, "Kyle SOTN" <[email protected]>,  "Linda SOTN" <[email protected]>, "Mitch SOTN" <[email protected]>, "Adam SOTN/Tribe2" <[email protected]>, "Andrew SOTN/Tribe2" <[email protected]>, "Diego SOTN/Tribe2" <[email protected]>, "Mag SOTN/Tribe2" <[email protected]>, "MaryJo Tribe1" <[email protected]>

      
Evan is gone! We got him out. It was a close vote though. Evan voted, but he didn't help us in the challenge! Makes no sense. He's gone anyways. Good Luck to everyone on the Reward Challenge! I think that I've figured out that Darren is running the show for Yano over here. G'night!

- Joseph


From: "Darren F" <[email protected]>
To: [email protected][email protected], [email protected][email protected], [email protected], [email protected]
Subject: About the Reward Challenge!
Date: Wed, 24 Jul 2002 00:18:12 -0700

     
Hey Tribe!

I didn�t know what You all were doing on the Reward Challenge, so I went
ahead, and did a few flash flag/banner, I also uploaded a regular Banner.

Can I please get all of Your Opinions!

Also Everyone Else, You Can Submit something to the tribe too!

http://www.geocities.com/sotn_reward/

~Darren

Date: Fri, 26 Jul 2002 15:29:14 -0700 (PDT)
From:  "Joseph Williams" <[email protected]>
Subject: A Creative E-Mail for Jet Points...
To: Hosts


*Joseph is chillin' on the the mountain top as he ponders many things at this stage in the game.*

Joseph: Well, I haven't talked to the camera in a while! So, I thought I'd let you know what my position is at this stage in the game. As for the 5-man alliance, I'm thinking that I may be set to be in the final 3 or 4 for that. I'm not sure if Andrew is overestimating or underestimating my talents as a player at this time. Hopefully he's underestimating me. Hopefully, he thinks he's more popular than me too! That would be ideal. I'm not sure what more tricks you guys have up your sleeve, but the former Yanomamo Tribe is screwed right now. They had the inactive people so they will be eliminated one-by-one for the rest of the game. All we have to do as a Marumba Tribe is win a couple Immunity Challenges and we're home free! As for who the Svidandi Alliance within Marumba is planning to get rid of the next time we have to go to Tribal Council if that happens.... we're thinking Phil! Darren is the obvious leader, but he's nothing with the number disadvantage he has, so we might as well keep him until the final merger since he's a good and hard working player! As for these challenges you're throwing at us.... the first mountain IC was a good idea! Simple, but complete! But you stuck us with the enigmatic (bonus jet points for big word!!!) Evan who decides that he's not gonna do the challenge, but vote! Thank goodness Phil didn't vote or I would have sopped worrying about Andrew and started worrying about how I could work a deal to stay around till the merge! These last two challenges.... the flag and the website.... ARGH! I HATE CREATIVE CHALLENGES! Nothing against the production team because these are good challenges overall, but personally, I just don't like them! I'm not big on designing flags and stuff! But I'm gonna put our website over the top I believe since I'm doing my creative journal thingy! You know all my short term plans now.... as for long term plans.... my plan is to win! Actually, I'd be happy to make it past the final 7, because in the 3 survivor games I've played, I won then got 7th place the next two times! I think my chances to make it far are good, but since we're changing environments, I'm not sure if a twist will come with every new environment, so I'm just chillin and trying to take it day-to-day! I was surprised that I had the most jet points! Paguchi needs to vote out Chrissy, she's my big jet point threat! Espescially since they won the Reward Challenge! But I'm thinking I may still be in the lead. But we need to be in the tribal lead too, so Darren will help us out there. I guess that's about it for now! Hopefully we'll win immunity! If we don't, Phil's going home! I'm getting cold and hungry! Jared better show up soon... I need SpongeBob!

*All of a sudden, we hear heavy breathing and wheezing. Spongebob comes up towards Joseph and he is beaten, bruised, and cold!*

Joseph: WHAT HAS HAPPENED TO YOU?!

Spongebob: M-m-m..... I-i-i... nnnneed help! Jared..... tried... t-to make a SpongeBob shake!

Joseph: NOOOOO!!!!! JARED! I WILL GET REVENGE!!!!

Spongebob: ROSEBUD! ROSEBUD!

Joseph: What are you talking about?

Spongebob: Citizen Kane is a good movie!


Joseph: Where is Jared?

Spongebob: Iceland! He knows that's where you have had your bad memories! He is going to remind you of them!


Joseph: That's ok, with my friend Spongebob, I can conquer anything!

Spongebob: EAT MORE CHICKEN!

*Joseph calls the SOTN Doctors to get medical help for Spongebob as we go back to the Paguchi camp.....*


Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002
From:  "Joseph Williams" <[email protected]>
Subject: Way to Go, Marumba!
To: "Zeb Host" <[email protected]>,  "Derek Marumba" <[email protected]>, "Evan Marumba" <[email protected]>, "jet points" <[email protected]>, "Andrew SOTN/Tribe2" <[email protected]>, "Diego SOTN/Tribe2" <[email protected]>, "Mag SOTN/Tribe2" <[email protected]>, "MaryJo Tribe1" <[email protected]>, "Darren Tribe2" <[email protected]>

  
Way to go, guys! Jet points are the true sign of a strong tribe. We showed Paguchi who the best tribe is in the mountains!! It'll be interesting to see how they vote due to the controversy and turmoil in that tribe over the past week! We can relax tonight and wait to see what Zeb has up his sleeve next! By the way, I just got back from seeing Signs and it was REALLY good! I highly reccommend it! That's all! Peace out!

- Joseph

DIEGO's REPLY: Yeah way to go Marumba we did an awesome job i guess now lets just wait and see what happens.
Diego

From: "Darren F" <[email protected]>
To:  [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected][email protected]
Subject: Ug, we are Going to Iceland!
Date: Sun, 04 Aug 2002 00:31:28 -0700

     
We are Going to Iceland!
This most likely Means a Switch :)
~Darren

JOSEPH's REPLY: I wouldn't think another switch. But this IS all-stars AND the tribes will be even at 6-6, so it's a perfect opportunity for another switch! It shall be interesting, definitely, to see how the new tribes will form out.... if there is indeed another switch! But I'm thinking maybe an early merge since there's only 12 people left! I guess all we can do is wait!

- Joseph

Date: Tue, 6 Aug 2002
From:  "Joseph Williams" <[email protected]>
Subject: Re: This Challenge :(!
To: "Darren F" <[email protected]>,  [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected]


This challenge IS crazy! 9 bears is great, and I seriously doubt the other tribe has that many, but we still need to try to find that last 1!!!!! I looked quite a bit last night and came up with nothing! Darren looked much longer and had a lot to show for it! Thanks, Darren! As for that last one, whoever finds it should go ahead and send all 10 links in. If you happen to stumble across more flags, try for it too! But we need to make sure we can get that last bear and get Immunity! I can't get into any of the SOTN pages right now due to it's lockout or whatever, but I'll try to get on later today and try to find the last bear!! WHERE COULD THAT BEAR BE?

- Joseph

MAG's REPLY:
Ok guys........ I will do my best to FIND that last damn polar bear and the other flags. I KNOW we can do this........... if i get it -- I will let you know and then submit it...... same goes for the rest of you right ??? if anyone finds it --- let the rest of us know and SUBMIT!!!!!!!!!! YAYYYYYYYYYYYYy

Mag

CONVO BETWEEN ADAM and WILL:
wuntain (11:55:34 PM): I just removed mitch from our grou
wuntain (11:55:36 PM): *smile*
steveblackman77 (11:50:03 PM): Oh?
wuntain (11:56:05 PM): Lol yeppers.
wuntain (11:56:09 PM): He dared me to do something about it
wuntain (11:56:11 PM):  So I did
steveblackman77 (11:50:27 PM): LOL
wuntain (11:57:26 PM): I'm perfectly willing to be a bitch to people especially when they annoy me
steveblackman77 (11:51:37 PM): hehehehe
wuntain (11:58:49 PM): Hehe  I love being me
steveblackman77 (11:54:10 PM): lol
steveblackman77 (11:56:42 PM): Okee

CONVO BETWEEN JOSEPH and ADAM
bravesruul (07:33:00 PM): you voted for SOTN VI?
steveblackman77 (07:22:00 PM): No! I don't know who to vote for.
bravesruul (07:33:57 PM): is there any kind of communication at all going on over there?
steveblackman77 (07:23:05 PM): None whatsoever/
bravesruul (07:34:41 PM): hmmmm...... the Tribal Council should be interesting then
steveblackman77 (07:24:01 PM): Yeah.
steveblackman77 (07:24:21 PM): I've only heard stuff out of Linda, Will, and ...
bravesruul (07:35:48 PM): ok... then you linda and will need to get together and decide on someone
steveblackman77 (07:24:44 PM): Yeah.
bravesruul (07:36:01 PM): with 3 people, and no communication, you would probably decide who goes
bravesruul (07:36:41 PM): do you guys have dead weight or what?
steveblackman77 (07:26:01 PM): Yeah.
steveblackman77 (07:26:14 PM): Chrissy, Marie, Will, Linda, and I are the only ones saying stuff.,
bravesruul (07:37:22 PM): who all is dead weight?
bravesruul (07:37:33 PM): hmmm.....
steveblackman77 (07:26:25 PM): I think thats it...
bravesruul (07:37:36 PM): that leaves who?
steveblackman77 (07:26:38 PM): Looking.
steveblackman77 (07:27:04 PM): Andy Z. Kyle Mitch
bravesruul (07:38:49 PM): i dunno.... lol
bravesruul (07:39:02 PM): too confusing for me
bravesruul (07:39:58 PM): if it comes down to it, vote your gut
steveblackman77 (07:29:03 PM): Yeah, I will.
steveblackman77 (07:29:07 PM): Do you know when the deadline is?
bravesruul (07:40:28 PM): sometime tonight i guess
steveblackman77 (07:29:26 PM): Hm.
THE HUGE CONTROVERSY SURROUNDING MITCH "THE JERK" and WILL "THE DRAMA QUEEN KNOW IT ALL"

From: Mitch - [email protected]
Date: Thu, 1 Aug 2002 14:44:59 EDT
Subject: Dude help,wills had me blocked out of the group for sometime now
To: Zeb - [email protected]

     
William from paguchi is cursing widlly at me,ILLEGALLY kicked me out of the tribes camp site for no reasona nd scoffed saying he was voting me off...heres proof please help. PLEASE HELP i emailed you two days ago!!
Wuntained:  I just removed you from the message board
Wuntained:  :)
Wuntained:  bye.
Wuntained:  I just realized that I was the head of it.
Wuntained:  Lookie there
Wuntained:  look what happens when you TRY in a game 
The Real FRB:  lol it can be changed moron
Wuntained:  Go right ahead Mitch.
The Real FRB:  bye bye pest
Wuntained:  As for now that site is now Mitch free --

Zeb's REPLY: didn't receive that first email, but I will address this now. I never received control of each of the new Tribes Yahoo Groupsite so I can not do anything UNLESS we have a challenge in which you are dependent on
winning from that board. I will email him to see what is going on with you two. At that time I will also tell him to add you back to the group. If you could add anything to this I would appreciate it.

-Zeb


From: Will - [email protected] |
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:21:59 EDT
Subject: Re: Mitch Problem?
To: Zeb - [email protected]

   
*smile*  I don't take kindly to threats Zeb, especially ones of the caliber Mitch threatened me with.  Therefore, simply, I asked him to stop -- he asked me what I was going to do to make him, and retaliated.  Simple as that, and god willin' and creek don't rise people will see he shouldn't be in the game anyway, and he'll be gone.


From: [email protected]
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:35:04 EDT
Subject: Comments about the first Cycle
To: Zeb - [email protected]

     
I should have realized when I signed up for this game, mostly because Andrew
asked me to, that I would not try nearly as much as I did for SOTN III for a few reasons...

1.  Overall Apathy towards the people...
2.  Overall sense of intellectual growth...
(Sorry, I know i'm a snob, I can't help it)
3.  And a sense of what's the point?  I got final 2 last time...I don't have anything to prove.

Thus, I came into this game expecting the same as the last time, however, sadly, that was something that I should have known better.  It wasn't going to happen --

First off the tribes...

1.  Darren -- psuedo 15 baby leader
2.  Melanie -- old evil wench who I hated by the end of sotn3
3.  Evan -- great guy, however, i'm sure has retaliatory means towards
me

Not to mention I lead to the voting off of each other people there -- that can't be good eh?
Ok, I'm stuck with them, oh well -- I can deal.

Look now, Chrissy! The amazing Amazon woman IE the extremely "look at
me, i'm voted off cause i'm a threat."  Rot in hell you evil woman, sadly, she
is the only one I will be able to align with, because Darren, Marie, and Josh
Y.  Have decieded on making some type of alliance.  JOY.  Let them, I don't
like them all anyway, and alliances will fall hard in this long very long game.

Andy Z.  Great guy, and someone I decieded on aligning with.  He's the only
one here with any common sense.  Along with, Chrissy, Derek and Phil, we
thought aligning would be a good thing to do.  However, I must tell you -- I
aligned with a bunch of idiots, we have trouble coordinating votes because
yes, they don't know how. Sadly, I had a "self vote' the first tribal council.  As much bull shit  as  that is *smile* it's no one's fault.  That page, sadly didn't work for me.  Had it done so, Josh Y would have gone, and all would have been good.


From: Will- [email protected]
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:38:21 EDT
Subject: Comments about the Second Cycle
To: Zeb - [email protected]


This is when I began to really hate and despise this game.  It should rot, it really should.  OK, well, I am on the loser tribe.  I havn't been on type of tribe before, so I'm not really sure what to do. Oh yeah, insult the people and piss them off. Go me! Great idea.

Well -- i'm attempting to do so, however, i'm not sure they can register insults as I can.  :-( Poor blokes, they are laughing at them.  Sadly, I attempt to coordinate the challenge, to no avail.  They screw it up repeatidly.  Bastards --

OK, well despite this -- I realize that I am going to have to do this on my own, screw what they say about Chrissy or Darren being the leader.

Therefore, when the immunity challenge comes around, good one as always MJ (You rock :-P ) I'm able to pull it off, simply and quickly, and pull us through for our first win.

During this time, it is more obvious that Chrissy, Andy, Derek and Phil and I have a type of alliance (Phil more or less is NOT in the alliance as he's slow and not sure what he's doing)  The rest however, have accepted


From: Mitch - [email protected]
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:50:35 EDT
Subject: Re: Dude help,wills had me blocked out of the group for sometime now
To: Zeb - [email protected]

      
MAN YOU ARE BLIND And here is proof...this is what hes IMed Me. HE IS ACTING LIKE GOD AND ITS ILLEGAL TO DO THIS AND TALK SHIT ABOUT ME WHILE IM OFF THE BOARD. HE DID IT JUST TO BE  A DICK CAUSE I WONT KISS HIS ASS...Im about to quit because this is really messed up man.

"Will, you need to add Mitch back to your tribal
groupsite and you should also tell me what is going on
between you two. I won't kick you out if you don't add
him back, but he is still a member of your tribe and
should be a member of the tribal groupsite."

he showed me and hes scoffing
Wuntained:  If you want back on the tribal site, i'd like an apology.
The Real FRB:  lol eat me
The Real FRB:  you appoligize to me
Wuntained:  Okay then.  I have no obligation to put you back, and in fact I am clear of all responsibility in doing so.  *Smile*  Have a nice day.
The Real FRB:  threats dont work on me no-nutts
The Real FRB:  its just a stupid game
Wuntained:  *checks* They're still there.
Wuntained:  Exactely.
The Real FRB:  and you arnt one of the damn game runners
The Real FRB:  your just in the game
Wuntained:  What I was attempting to tell you when you freaked on me.
Wuntained:  Hypocrite is spelled with one t right?
Wuntained:  ;-)
The Real FRB:  so i can have you kicked out of the game for illegally kicking me out
Wuntained:  Lol.
Wuntained:  No you can't.
The Real FRB:  of the tribe site
The Real FRB:  watch me
Wuntained:  Will, you need to add Mitch back to your tribal
groupsite and you should also tell me what is going on
between you two. I won't kick you out if you don't add
him back, but he is still a member of your tribe and
should be a member of the tribal groupsite.

Wuntained:  :)
Wuntained:  Comeupance for ignorance is such a sweet thing.
Wuntained:  Now, obviously you don't want back on.
Wuntained:  If so, you would apologize accordingly.
Wuntained:  Since you refuse, you can stay off.

hes probably gonna try bullshitting you man i swear he just is being egotistical saying he wont put me back fi i dont appoligize toh im WHEN I NEVER DID ANYTHING TO HIM HE ATTACKED ME FIRST DAY I MET HIM,FIX IT OR I QUIT MAN


From: Will- [email protected]
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:57:02 EDT
Subject: Conversation with Mitch (Serious issues please read, concerns the tribal group)
To: Zeb - [email protected]

    
Wuntained:  If you want back onto the tribal site, I request you apologize accordingly.
The Real FRB: haha eat me
The Real FRB:  threats dont work on me no-nutts
The Real FRB:  its just a stupid game
Wuntained:  *checks* They're still there.
Wuntained:  Exactely.
The Real FRB:  and you arnt one of the damn game runners
The Real FRB:  your just in the game
Wuntained:  What I was attempting to tell you when you freaked on me.
Wuntained:  Hypocrite is spelled with one t right?
Wuntained:  ;-)
The Real FRB:  so i can have you kicked out of the game for illegally kicking me out
Wuntained:  Lol.
Wuntained:  No you can't.
The Real FRB:  of the tribe site
The Real FRB:  watch me
Wuntained:  Will, you need to add Mitch back to your tribal
groupsite and you should also tell me what is going on
between you two. I won't kick you out if you don't add
him back, but he is still a member of your tribe and
should be a member of the tribal groupsite.

Wuntained:  :)
Wuntained:  Comeupance for ignorance is such a sweet thing.
Wuntained:  Now, obviously you don't want back on.
Wuntained:  If so, you would apologize accordingly.
Wuntained:  Since you refuse, you can stay off.
The Real FRB:  youll be kissing my ass

Because I reported him to AOL, I lost this part of the conversation
I basically tell him that i'm done talking to him, and he goe son to say something about him being able to get my "torch snuffed" and I finish the conversation with a comment about him being a hypocrite twice, as he now "cares about the game he just made fun of".

That sums it up nicely.

The Real FRB:  i never did anything to you you egotistical bastard lol
Wuntained:  Now i'm done.
The Real FRB:  you attacked me out of no where
Wuntained:  I'm not egotistical -- i'm a snob.
The Real FRB:  be done then ,stop bugging me
Wuntained:  Now if you will, your conversation is boring me.
The Real FRB:  your also a fa
The Real FRB:  g

These type of comments are grossly unnecessary.  And I Believe all of you will agree.  I am NOT planning on putting him back on the tribal site.  And would prefer you to say something to him in regarding that derogatory insult towards me. Hopefully AOL will strick his account from the earth.


From: Mitch - [email protected]
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 00:57:19 EDT
Subject: Re: the monkey (RESULTS)
To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected][email protected][email protected], [email protected], [email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected][email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected][email protected], [email protected]
      


guys....Will ahs illegally been banning me from the Paguchi tribe site just because he wants to be a dick,thats the serious reasona nd he keeps scoffing of how Zeb will do nothing to him and he can do whatever ,man what a ass he is and so far hes had me off for like 4 days so god knows what hes been saying about me.

Wuntained:  :)
Wuntained:  Comeupance for ignorance is such a sweet thing.
Wuntained:  Now, obviously you don't want back on.
Wuntained:  If so, you would apologize accordingly.
Wuntained:  Since you refuse, you can stay off.
The Real FRB:  lol eat me
The Real FRB:  you appoligize to me
The Real FRB:  I never did shit to you,youve attacked me from day one.
The Real FRB:  Put me back up thats illegal and should get you kicked out of the game.
Wuntained:  But as for Zeb, i've talked to him about it, and he in no way has a punishment for me

CHRISSY'S REPLY: The only thing he's said to me is exactly what you said. Whatever the reason you two are bickering is reallly not of interest to me, cause it isnt my battle, but since you and he both brought it up, and i have heard both sides, I would leave it up to Zeb to decide. It is his game, and he has the power, not me. I just wish this BS would stop, for maybe a half a second. Im tired of hearing about who called who what, and why, and where, and the 120,000 reasons for it.  Let Zeb decide please....

CHRISSY'S SECOND REPLY: It really isnt Illegal for him to remove you. He did create the group, therefore he is the moderator.  I see it in many other kinds of message boards, like Delphi, and AOL... so why is it a suprise to you that if you insult someone, this would happen? It is nothing new on any board I have ever seen....Before you go complaining about something illegal, stop assuming. As for being kicked out of the game, that is up to Zeb.
Chrissy


IM CONVO BETWEEN WILL and CHRISSY:
Wuntained:  Hi
SoBeMe25:  hi
SoBeMe25:  whats going on 
Wuntained:  Just had a conversation with Mitch
Wuntained:  he called me a fag.
SoBeMe25:  interesting email I have from Mitch
SoBeMe25:  ofgs
SoBeMe25:  please tell me you didnt ban him from the site
Wuntained:  What is it? the one about I took him off the list lol?
SoBeMe25:  yea
Wuntained:  lol yuppers I did.  He deserved it
SoBeMe25:  but how does that help?
SoBeMe25:  I mean I understand
SoBeMe25:  but that doesnt help
Wuntained:  He asked me what I was going to do to stop him from posting that crap about me --
Wuntained:  I stopped him :)
SoBeMe25:  if he;s callng you shit
SoBeMe25:  then ignore him
Wuntained:  I emailed zeb with my complaint
Wuntained:  about him insulting me.
SoBeMe25:  you can do that in teh posts
Wuntained:  Something will be done.
SoBeMe25:  thats fine
SoBeMe25:  i dont really care
SoBeMe25:  but
Wuntained:  He's staying off the boards -- 
Wuntained:  I'm gonna do a bunch of jet point stuff tonight
SoBeMe25:  when something like this happens, you are the only one that has controls... lol
Wuntained:  I think the thing is tomorrow
SoBeMe25:  Oh I have alot of stuff
Wuntained:  True, and I took the conversation and the problem and did somethign with it.
Wuntained:  he said tomorrow morning
SoBeMe25:  who said tomorrow morining
Wuntained:  Well Zeb said that th enext immunity challenge results would be tomorrow morning
Wuntained:  since that means we won't be doing anything -- it has to be jet points
SoBeMe25:  well
SoBeMe25:  Im glad we won that one
Wuntained:  Yeah.
Wuntained:  I really really really want mitch gone..

ANOTHER IM CONVO BETWEEN CHRISSY and WILL:
SoBeMe25:  Oh btw, I emailed and posted about his message
SoBeMe25:  I tried to be impartial
Wuntained:  That was a bit unnecessary impartiality.
SoBeMe25:  ;-)
Wuntained:  hehe..
SoBeMe25:  I know
Wuntained:  Basically I've done nothing to him, he attacked me for his vote
SoBeMe25:  but it isnt my game
Wuntained:  but..yah.
Wuntained:  nm.
Wuntained:  Well Zeb frankly said that I won't be punished for it
SoBeMe25:  I know what you have said and what he has said
SoBeMe25:  thats all
SoBeMe25:  and it isnt much to go on lol
Wuntained:  well frankly, we havn't argued that mch
SoBeMe25:  no 
SoBeMe25:  thats why
SoBeMe25:  but I was just trying to express how I fely
Wuntained:  and I'm getting really pissed with people who don't see that this is a one sided responsibility argument.
Wuntained:  but whatever.
SoBeMe25:  wait
SoBeMe25:  you think I said it is one sided?
Wuntained:  I understand..but you do see how I didn't present bull shit to the board?
Wuntained:  No --
Wuntained:  don't see it as..
Wuntained:  I feel that you saw it as myself having issues with it too
Wuntained:  But I didn't post all that on the message board, bringing others into it
Wuntained:  I didn't email the whole group whining.
SoBeMe25:  no you didnt
SoBeMe25:  I now that
Wuntained:  In fact -- all I did was talk to him about it, mention one thing to you, and remove him from the board.
Wuntained:  So I believe my actions were much more mature than his.
Wuntained:  And full of no bull shit
Wuntained:  and the word fag SERIOUSLY offends me.  I'm sorry I told you he called me that...
SoBeMe25:  I didnt say you were particularly full of bullshit
Wuntained:  I know..
i'm sorry it's just yeah, it bothers me.
SoBeMe25:  I dont like being called names like that either
SoBeMe25:  I have a freind or two that is
SoBeMe25:  but personally Im not
Wuntained:  Well I am
Wuntained:  Do you see how that would offend me now?
SoBeMe25:  and that isnt a problem
SoBeMe25:  Right
SoBeMe25:  I know it does
Wuntained:  :-\
SoBeMe25:  I have a couple friends that are
SoBeMe25:  you remember Fernando?
Wuntained:  No.
SoBeMe25:  ok
SoBeMe25:  regardless
SoBeMe25:  hes one of the best people I met playing these games
Wuntained:  It's sorta me having to deal with people not growing towards acceptance, but whatever, I can deal
SoBeMe25:  Just take a deep breath, and be the better person
Wuntained:  :) I feel I've done that by not responding to his emails hehe
SoBeMe25:  he really isnt very intellignet sounding
Wuntained:  lol I know
Wuntained:  Fa
Wuntained:  g..
Wuntained:  lol
Wuntained:  and nonutts..
Wuntained:  lordie..LOL
SoBeMe25:  proves that he can swear
SoBeMe25:  I can swear
SoBeMe25:  a 4 year old child can swear
SoBeMe25:  a parrot can swear
SoBeMe25:  i mean really
Wuntained:  lol!
SoBeMe25:  is this world so full of idiots
Wuntained:  that's great Chrissy
SoBeMe25:  lol
SoBeMe25:  ugh
Wuntained:  About the game a moment -- do you think we'll switch again?
SoBeMe25:  people piss me the fuck off
SoBeMe25:  sorry
Wuntained:  ol yeah!
Wuntained:  They do!
Wuntained:  :)
SoBeMe25:  its highly possible
SoBeMe25:  Im thinking
SoBeMe25:  hes gonna take us through each of the tribes on each series
Wuntained:  I'm hoping -- just get me away frommitch hehe.
Wuntained:  oooh, good point
SoBeMe25:  yea
SoBeMe25:  but
SoBeMe25:  that may mean I get stuck with him
SoBeMe25:  >:o
Wuntained:  :( I hope not
SoBeMe25:  I just emailed that it was unneccessary to post that message to the whole game
Wuntained:  thank you!
SoBeMe25:  and that if he wanted to have the whole tribe see it and zeb, he shouldhav just emailed us... or posted it on the tribe board
SoBeMe25:  or
SoBeMe25:  just emailed his complaints to Zeb
Wuntained:  yes! that would have been much better
Wuntained:  he likes the attention though
SoBeMe25:  yea well
Wuntained:  hehe :)
SoBeMe25:  now hes gonna get my foot up his ass


From: Will - [email protected]
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 01:34:50 EDT
Subject: Comments on the third cycle
To: Zeb - [email protected]

     
I like to consider this my "boring period of the game".  A hiatus for me to say the least -- I had no idea we had even had an immunity challenge.

I gave the my word, however, sadly, they didn't understand that they were supposed to make logical sense.  I won't hound them too much here -- I
didn't help them.  You can't expect them to get anything done without me can ya? ;-) J/k j/k.  I'm a snob, deal.

Well -- we had an immunity challenge that they won.  Go them, I had no idea we even had one.  However, Chrissy and I are quite strong allies, so things are "Ok".  If OK means being OK in the game.


From: Mitch - [email protected]
Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 02:11:15 EDT
Subject: Re: the monkey (RESULTS)
To: [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected][email protected][email protected], [email protected], [email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected][email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected][email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected], [email protected][email protected], [email protected]


chrissy,im not bickerign i swear,he just imed me all of a sudden and started bashing me,i did nothing to give him reason thats the honest to god truth,now hes demanding i kiss his ass to get back on the tribe list and i wont do it if i never did anything to him!

its not calling names chrissy im sick of it too,I just want back on the tribe List!!! Wills had me off of it for 4 days!!

LOL hes obviously lied to you already...chrissy i can only explain the truth once...I DID OR SAID NOTHING TO THAT MAN,He came to me and started bashing me ive got the convos to proove it!!!

In a message dated 8/1/2002 10:32:32 PM Pacific Daylight Time, SoBeMe25 writes
another thing.... no offense Mitch, but this really didnt need to be brought to the whole game's attention. you shoulda just emailed this tribe and Zeb, and maybe just Zeb with your complaints...
Chrissy

MITCH'S REPLY:
since your bringing this public ill bring what i just emailed you Public...I HAVE EMAILED ZEB PRIVATLY ABOUT IT, 4 days ago!!! I just send him a 2nd mail yesterday that he finally responded too then will came to me in IMS bragging how Zeb wont punish him or make him put me back on...i did nothing to bring this on,its totally random and got me confused myself, HE INSULTED ME then used leverage by kicking me out because i wouldnt kiss his ass.

ADAM'S REPLY: *deep sigh*

And people wonder why we lose immunity challenges...

...*sigh*

I'm going away for a few days, like I said before. Be good, all.

Adam


Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 07:44:51 -0700 (PDT)
From:  "Joseph Williams" <[email protected]>
Subject: Thoughts on the Controversy....
To: The Hosts

      
*Joseph is chillin' on Day 30-something in the Mountains. He's chillin', just talking to the camera. He's sitting next to Spongebob, who is watching himself on TV and totally unaware of the camera's presence. Joseph is eating some shrimp scampi that Spongebob has prepared for him!*

Joseph: Well, well, well! This game surely is interesting! I'll address several things here, since we need to make sure we have enough jet points so we can win the final Mountain Immunity Challenge Tomorrow! Then I get to go to Iceland, take revenge on Jared, etc. etc. etc.! Anyways, the first thing at hand is the new alliance I have made. I'm sure you dumb producers are playing this alliance conversation I had with Andrew on the SOTN Network with lots of commentary since it looks like Joseph, the most powerful presence in SOTN History, has made an alliance with the thought of untrustworthy Andrew! The funny thing is that I trust Andrew for several reasons! 1. He's somewhat popular, but everyone knows he's a cutthroat person. This is an attribute I have as well, but I believe I'm a little bit more popular. I'm sure Andrew thinks this as well, so it should set up an interesting Final 2! 2. If he was to screw me for someone else, he'd be dumb! Diego, Adam, and definitely Mag are all probably more popular than him! So me and Andrew have formed this pact for the final 2, and it's gonna work! This is an all-star game, and the only thing our competition can do is whine and cry about not being in on the Tribal Club! Who actually posts anything there other than for a challenge anyways! HONESTLY! Will's just trying to stir controversy because he's lost interest in these online games! And it's worked! He's having fun by making other people miserable. If Mitch just took it in stride, Will would get fed up! I don't really care, they are all going to eventually get voted off anyways! The more turmoil, the more division... the more division, the easier it is to get them voted off! That's about all I have to say for now! I hope this is worth some serious jet points! Peace out!

*Joseph continues to eat....*

IM CONVO BETWEEN CHRISSY and DARREN:
upcominghm (03:04:53 AM): Hi
sobeme25 (03:05:11 AM): yes what can I do for you
sobeme25 (03:05:20 AM):
upcominghm (03:06:37 AM): Ok, miss attitude
upcominghm (03:06:41 AM): jj, cant we just talk lol
sobeme25 (03:06:10 AM): ugh notattitude
sobeme25 (03:06:12 AM): jsut tired
sobeme25 (03:06:20 AM): and sure we can just talk
upcominghm (03:07:48 AM): lol
upcominghm (03:08:00 AM): So did Zeb ever reply to ur email?
sobeme25 (03:07:57 AM): yes
sobeme25 (03:08:02 AM): he askedn me not to quit
sobeme25 (03:08:04 AM): but
sobeme25 (03:08:11 AM): now there is drama
sobeme25 (03:08:24 AM): Will says he doesnt care bout the players in this game
sobeme25 (03:08:34 AM): he only joined as a favor to Aurora
sobeme25 (03:08:40 AM): so now Im pissed at him
upcominghm (03:09:28 AM): lol
sobeme25 (03:08:47 AM): but when I tried to IM him
sobeme25 (03:08:52 AM): he wouldnt respond
sobeme25 (03:08:55 AM): bastard
upcominghm (03:09:45 AM): O God, R Tribe is going to be screwed
upcominghm (03:09:53 AM): Original Tribe I mean
sobeme25 (03:10:09 AM): why do you say so
upcominghm (03:11:43 AM): Well so Far it is 8-6 for the other tribe
sobeme25 (03:12:19 AM): so?
upcominghm (03:13:46 AM): Dont u think the other tribe will stick together
sobeme25 (03:13:27 AM): Dont you know we got rid of Marie?
sobeme25 (03:13:38 AM): and no
sobeme25 (03:13:39 AM): I dont
sobeme25 (03:13:46 AM): it doesnt always work that way
upcominghm (03:14:57 AM): True

ANOTHER IM CONVO BETWEEN CHRISSY and DARREN:
upcominghm (03:41:20 AM): There is Sure a Big Conterversy at ur tribe lol
sobeme25 (03:42:27 AM): do I care?
sobeme25 (03:42:29 AM): nope
upcominghm (03:43:31 AM): UR Sure Loving this Edition
sobeme25 (03:42:56 AM): LOL
sobeme25 (03:42:58 AM): well
sobeme25 (03:43:08 AM): I get all the men fighting
sobeme25 (03:43:12 AM): what isnt to like
upcominghm (03:44:07 AM): lol, looks like I have to go to tc
sobeme25 (03:43:30 AM): awww
sobeme25 (03:43:34 AM): I sorry
upcominghm (03:44:24 AM): No Biggie
upcominghm (03:44:29 AM): Phil is the Target anywho
sobeme25 (03:43:48 AM): well
sobeme25 (03:43:52 AM): yea
sobeme25 (03:43:56 AM): thats what I thought
upcominghm (03:44:59 AM): Well I never asked anyone, dont have to
sobeme25 (03:44:37 AM): i figured as much
upcominghm (03:46:26 AM): brb
sobeme25 (03:46:35 AM): k
upcominghm (04:09:28 AM): back
upcominghm (04:26:46 AM): So Do u think we are going to get a tribal switch>
upcominghm (04:26:48 AM): ?*
sobeme25 (04:27:51 AM): sorry
sobeme25 (04:27:58 AM): arguinhg with my ididot of a bf
upcominghm (04:28:47 AM): lol
sobeme25 (04:29:39 AM): Will and I believe it is possible
upcominghm (04:30:56 AM): R Old Tribe needs to stick together, and see how long we can Last lol
sobeme25 (04:32:25 AM): yea
sobeme25 (04:32:28 AM): whos left?
upcominghm (04:34:02 AM): Well there is only 5 of us if Phil Goes
upcominghm (04:34:32 AM): Me, You, Will,
sobeme25 (04:34:46 AM): uhm
sobeme25 (04:34:48 AM): who else
sobeme25 (04:34:53 AM): Derek?
upcominghm (04:36:36 AM): Yes, and I cant remember the Last
upcominghm (04:37:24 AM): Andy
sobeme25 (04:36:48 AM): yup
sobeme25 (04:37:06 AM): I should end up with one or two of you again
upcominghm (04:37:58 AM): Yep

IM CONVO BETWEEN CHRISSY and WILL:
wuntain (06:15:47 PM): Hi
wuntain (06:19:19 PM): Sorry -- I've been gone recently
sobeme25 (06:16:06 PM): I was under the impression you didnt want to play
wuntain (06:19:37 PM): I think we should vote Andy -- considering he lost the challenge for us, and i'm sure they will go for him anyway.
wuntain (06:19:46 PM): Well -- I am not that interested in doing so, but i'm not giving up
wuntain (06:19:51 PM): i'll help you as much as I can
wuntain (06:19:56 PM): I'll sacrifice myself for you if need be
sobeme25 (06:16:52 PM): if I may ask
sobeme25 (06:17:05 PM): what is the problem with mike?
sobeme25 (06:17:11 PM): I have NO idea whats going on
wuntain (06:20:49 PM): Who is mike?
wuntain (06:20:51 PM): Do you mean mitch?
wuntain (06:20:53 PM): if so, he's just a punk
sobeme25 (06:17:52 PM): the one that posted your conversations with him in emails/posts
wuntain (06:21:32 PM): He's a baby--got pissy over my vote for him
sobeme25 (06:18:51 PM): ahhh
sobeme25 (06:18:53 PM): i see
sobeme25 (06:18:55 PM): lol
sobeme25 (06:19:01 PM): I voted for him too
sobeme25 (06:19:02 PM): didnt work
wuntain (06:23:10 PM): sadly, Marie was stupid and Andy was lazy
sobeme25 (06:20:37 PM): I dunno what happened to andy
sobeme25 (06:20:46 PM): he wasnt always playing like this
wuntain (06:25:33 PM): yeah..
wuntain (10:27:13 PM): Hey
wuntain (10:31:52 PM): There is this game, i've mentioned to you before
wuntain (10:31:56 PM): But I need ONE more female applicant.
sobeme25 (10:27:34 PM): oh
sobeme25 (10:27:35 PM): really
wuntain (10:32:08 PM): and I would LOVE for you to play
sobeme25 (10:27:45 PM): I think I lost the questionaire
sobeme25 (10:27:52 PM): lol
sobeme25 (10:27:55 PM): or the application
wuntain (10:32:38 PM): http://www.boomspeed.com/sobrevivient/index.html
wuntain (10:32:45 PM): as soon as you apply, i'll send out confirmations.
wuntain (10:32:52 PM): and we can begin probably before this weekend.
wuntain (10:33:30 PM): it's really really new and different, and I think you'd have a good time with it.
sobeme25 (10:29:13 PM): k
sobeme25 (10:29:23 PM): I will take a look at it
wuntain (10:33:58 PM):  Please please please hehe.
sobeme25 (10:30:22 PM): K k K k K k
wuntain (10:35:00 PM): ehehe
sobeme25 (10:33:10 PM): Ugh dunno who to vote for
sobeme25 (10:33:14 PM): I keep changing it
wuntain (10:38:06 PM): WE SHOULDN"T HAVE LOST!
sobeme25 (10:33:44 PM): no
wuntain (10:38:14 PM): I don't go by the @hotmail.com accoun t
sobeme25 (10:33:46 PM): we shouldnt
wuntain (10:38:16 PM): i've told people that over and over
wuntain (10:38:22 PM): So that's not my email
wuntain (10:38:24 PM): @aol.com one was
wuntain (10:38:32 PM): GRR it's Zeb's fault AGAIN
sobeme25 (10:34:04 PM): Did you tell Zeb that
wuntain (10:38:39 PM): I just emailed.
sobeme25 (10:34:12 PM): lol
sobeme25 (10:34:18 PM): yanno wot I did
sobeme25 (10:34:25 PM): I blocked it if it came to wrong addy
wuntain (10:39:11 PM): Herm -- it should be blocked, i'll be right back
sobeme25 (10:34:54 PM): yanno wot you can do
wuntain (10:50:01 PM): since he sends the thing to my AOL account the monkey shoudl go there.
wuntain (10:50:07 PM):  so the results are void
wuntain (10:50:08 PM): he has to agree
sobeme25 (10:45:41 PM): lol
sobeme25 (10:45:44 PM): if he doesnt
sobeme25 (10:45:49 PM): then there will be chaos
wuntain (10:50:24 PM): yes there will


Date: Sat, 3 Aug 2002 13:36:24 -0700 (PDT)
From: Zeb - [email protected]
Subject: Let's solve this 
To: "Will SOTN" <[email protected]>, "Mitch SOTN" <[email protected]>

      
I believe both of you are at fault in your own ways. I
will not go into detail because it would take way too
long to address. But here is what I must do to restore
some order, first Will, I would like you to make me a
co-founder to your tribes messageboard so I can add
Mitch back on the group so you don't have to do it
yourself. Mitch is still a member of your tribe and by
rights should be a member of the group. Mitch, after I
do this I don't want to hear any sarcasm or teasing to
Will from you that you got back in.

Mitch, a rule that has always been in place in these
games is to NEVER name call or cuss. You both may not
respect each other for what has happened, so I want
you to both try and figure this out or else never
speak again to each other. Mitch, you really shouldn't
have addressed every member of the game when you sent
that email. This is between the three of us. I know
you're bored, but Will, the way things have been
stirred is now way to be.

I still don't really understand where this all stemmed
from, and why it escalated, but it needs to be put
behind us. If both of you can't just leave each other
alone then I will have to take more drastic measures.
Please don't escalate this any further. I think you
both can both just agree to disagree and leave it
alone.

So for now, Will, please add me as a co-founder to the
group, and Mitch, no more addressing the entire game
with this issue.

-Zeb

Will's RESPONSE: I havn't kept him from joining.  He can rejoin -- that isn't an issue.  I won't stop him from doing so. Frankly Zeb, I have never, nor will ever personally attack anyone to  the height he did.  That is uncalled for, and I will not tolerate it.  If
he had any sense, he would rejoin the tribe on his own accord.  He can...

Mitch's RESPONSE: lol zeb he came at me first,what am i supposed to do sit there and take it? and i had no other choice but to addresss the whole game because you obviously didnt care enough to fix it and will keeps bragging of how you wont do anything to him no matter what he pulls...good hosting job there unbiased buddy....

WILL'S SECOND RESPONSE: Mkay, I believe Mitch have proven is point.  I'll add him back to the message board, and consider this over.

(With no apology mind you *sigh* )

Anywho.  Sorry about the trouble Zeb, I did figure that Mitch had crossed a line, that's the only reason I asked you to step in.

MITCH'S SECOND RESPONSE:
lol i did  nothing to you man,i asked you why you said you were voting for me and you started being a egotistical jerk to me saying your gonna never let me back in how zebs on your side and will never stop you....my god.

so what have i missed zeb....am i still even in the game or did he cheat and get me booted?

dude im sick of you brainwashing everyone I DID NOT SAY ANYTHING NEGATIVE TO YOU...YOU STARTED BAD MOUTHING ME AFTER I KINDLEY ASKED YOU WHY YOU SENT THE EMAIL...LIAR!

Zeb's Final Words on the Matter: In retrospect I believe I should have listened more intentely on what Mitch had to say about Will's behaivor. At that time I was stuck on the fact that Mitch had been trouble in a prevous SOTN and I was also thinking about his cussing. I believed that Will was definately at fault, but I didn't think he was the "true" cause of the problem. Looking back I think he WAS the cause and not Mitch. If I had it to do over again I most likely would have kicked Will out of the game for his behaivor. In the end however Will was voted out just like everyone else, he was no more special then any of the other players. Next time I'll definatley be more wise when dealing with this type of situation.
Hosted by www.Geocities.ws

1