| Knox: Right. DE: You know? Knox: Having said that, what is your favorite, uh, Lovecraft story? DE: My favorite Lovecraft story? Knox: Right. DE: Hmm.. that's a hard one. There's, uh... yeah, there's quite a few good Lovecraft stuff out there. Um... in fact, let me rummage around here. I've got quite a few books here. See, I can't think of one off hand. One, one that I had was actually a collection of alot of his short stories, and I appreciated that moreso than, like, the lengthy novels. I got off on the fact that, uh, alot, you know, it's like these compilation books you can get in any, most bookstores is, you know, like, a big volume of all of his, uh, his short stories, and I can't think of any one in particular. I just remember that reading all those good stories was, uh, pretty cool. He's got an interesting perspective, when you, uh, consolidate it, you know? Knox: Right. Um... do you, uh, do you like verbal - verbally frolicking like this and pretending that we are quasily - quasi intellectuals? DE: Uh, not really. You know, for me, it's common sense. Knox: Right? DE: You know, alot of people paint pretty pictures for their words, and I mean, it's like... with anything, you know, knowledge is power. You know. Simply put. Knox: Right. DE: And sometimes, like, you know, you may not want to offend a person, but other times, you know, a basic "fuck you" works better than painting a pretty picture, you know? Knox: Right. Um... what do you think of the scandal in the Catholic church? DE: ... Scandal? I just, I try not to think about the Catholics too much, and I wouldn't go so far as to say Catholic (tape garbled) but I don't think there, it's a real scandal. You know? Just... society at large, Dude? You know? I mean, think about it. It's like, you know, you have, you had the Spanish Inquisition, you had fuckin' the European Inquisition, you had the American Inquisition, and it's like... all religions suck ass, you know what I mean? And we're just a society that's dominated by the Christians, you know? Knox: Would - would you consider, um, your version of Satanism to be a religion? DE: Uh, not a religion per se, you know? It's more of a force that's out there. Knox: Do you think that, that naming it Satanism is, is, uh, misleading, because, you know, without Christianity, you can't have Satan. You could have a being that is known, you know, that, that has the characteristics of Satan, but Satan is the name that is attached to the being that is the antithesis of god. DE: Yup, Satanism can be misleading, but, you know, the reason why we take the Adversary's name is the fact that, you know, we're against Christianity. Now, the only reason why it's true to stay, true to stay within that realm, saying it's Satanist, just like LaVey says. The only reason they call it Satanism is because there's actual dogma to the ritual. Same thing with the Christian church. There's dogma. Then you have those in - who get into Chaos Magic, which are against dogma. So, I guess the only reason why, you know, people call themselves Satanists, is people find it misleading, then they find it misleading. But, it's also a point of reference to - you know, it's like having some that's not into metal, and asking what your band sounds like, so you come up with other band names that they might have points of reference to, to understand how heavy you are or how weak you are. You know what I'm saying? Knox: Right. Um... next question. Uh, what's it like being at the forefront of the vegan/straightedge hardcore movement? DE: (Laughs) Well, I'm not a vegan, so I wouldn't know. Knox: Are you straightedge? DE: I'm not a straightedge either. Knox: Aright. I was gonna say, because I don't think that, uh, that that, the black metal vegan/ straightedge entity exists. DE: No. And if they do, I.. probably not go see them either. Knox: It sounds like, uh, something that, uh, is, uh, diametrically opposed to itself. DE: It's an oxymoron. Knox: There I go again being quasi-intellectual. DE: Yeah, I can see that. Knox: I am very full of myself. DE: (laughs) Knox: Next question. Was, uh, Oystein Aarseth really a flaming gaysexual? DE: Well, it's been said. You know, I mean, uh.. I don't know him personally, so I couldn't really comment. Um. I know that, uh, ... posers do exist in our midst, man. You know? Knox: Right? DE: But, a personal belief is like, I mean, you have a dude like that who could fucking record you know, "De Mysteriis," man, it's such a fucking awesome album. But, then at the same time, I mean, you had alot of people, you know... that whole fucking, uh, Lords of Chaos book, I mean, alot of people, you know, reading interviews with Satyricon, and like, Samoth from Emperor and stuff like that, alot of them, you know, are trying to get away from the whole bunch of church burning things. You know, you have to understand, that was in 92, and most of these guys were still kids then. But, uh, I guess, you know, there's plenty of pictures that exist that have Oystein wearing, you know, non-black metal garb, so to speak. So, so like I said again, there's always posers. Knox: Right? Um... do you think instead of actually stabbing him, Varg actually wanted to act out some homo-erotic gaiety? DE: Probably. I think the dude was suffering from penis-envy. Knox: Do you think, uh, he's getting exactly what he wants in jail? DE: Oh yeah. He seems pretty fucking happy. And my guess is he's got, you know, a couple a good bitches around, and you know, they take his mind off of things. Knox: He's got some bitches or he's the bitch? DE: Well, you know, it could probably be argued both ways. There's always gonna be bigger dudes than him, you know what I mean? Knox: Cuz, cuz, cuz how poetic would it be if he got put down by a huge black dude named Bubba? DE: I think that would be a perfect end to Varg. Knox: I think that would be quite humorous. |
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