imami mubin_imam manifest

Bismillaahir Rahmaanir Rahiim
In the NAME of Allah, Rahman, Rahim

THE HOLY QUR'AN AND THE IMAMATE

salaamun alaykum and ya ali madad,

writes akbarally meherally:

>>
[email protected]
dear brothers and sisters:

allah (swt) reveals:

nay we hurl the truth against falsehood
and it knocks out its brain and behold
falsehood doth perish! ah! woe be to
you for the (false) things ye ascribe (to us). qur'an 21:18
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NAVALI: despite the above qur'anic exhortation which he quotes OFTEN, please note that lying and hiding the qur'anic truth per se, come naturally to akbarally meherally <[email protected]> and those like him, e.g., yusuf khalid <[email protected]>, etc. it looks as though the verse applies to only his innovated version of 'islam' and not to that which was revealed in the holy qur'an per se.

and in pursuit of their private - 'unislamic' - agenda, etc., they will not accept thee qur'anic revelation/s even at its face value -- without distorting it or refuting what was written or revealed by allah.

akbarally meherally further REFUSES to accept any and all qur'anic -- note -- QUR'ANIC rendition and/or INTERPRETATION of:

yasin 36:12 - _W_A_ _K_U_L_L_A__SHAY-IN
ahsaynaahu _F_I_I_ IMAAMIM _M_U_B_I-I_N_
---

details given below.

allow me to explain this as it had been to him again and again. now, how could someone, who calls himself a 'muslim' as well, claims to invite others to 'islam' -- himself refute, reject and DENY the holy qur'an? well, he has done this for decades now.

but more importantly, this is what he [akbarally meherally ] had repeatedly and deliberately also HIDDEN in order to propagate his falsehood against the holy imamate and ismailism.

078.28. wakaththaboo BI-AAYATINA kiththaban
yusufali: but they treated OUR SIGNS as false.
pickthal: they called OUR REVELATIONS false with strong denial.
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meaning: falsifying or rejecting the prophets and imams [pbuth] -- which are allah's highest revelations, signs and aayaats:

1. *WAKULLU SHAY-IN--AND EVERYTHING*

078.029 _WAKULLA SHAY-IN_ ahsaynahu KITABAN

yusufali: and all things have we preserved on RECORD.
pickthal: everything have we recorded in a BOOK.
shakir: _and we have recorded everything_ in a BOOK,
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first of, please note that 'NO WRITING OR RECORDING' was involved here.

ALLAH HAD SIMPLY -- *AHSAY -- VESTED -- PRESERVED* -- EVERYTHING [_fii--in(?)_] THE BOOK. we must also note here that 2-two very important words viz., 'fii & mubiin -- in & manifest,' respectively were MISSING. then maybe, they were not.

however, when compared to a similar verse namely yasin 36:12 -- this is the MAIN DIFFERENCE noted between the two. and yet, akbarally meherally and his likes contend that this 078.29 is a complete verse 'as is' -- whereas yasin 12:36 is not.

having said that, where is that book referred to here above? we don't know and i will not speculate on it like him.

please note also that this is a complete verse by itself. and since the qur'an was revealed piecemeal over 23 years, who is he to tell us that the 2nd half of verse yasin 36:12 - just cited -- belongs in that place only and not by itself?

but that also is the main issue here. allow me to explain.

the biblical prophecy re: the holy qur'an:

Isaiah 29:12 Then the book will be given to the one who is illiterate, saying, Please read this. And he will say, I cannot read.

Isaiah 28:10 For He says, "Order on order, order on order, Line on line, line on line, A little here, a little there.' Isaiah 28:13 So the word of the LORD to them will be, Order on order, order on order, Line on line, line on line, A little here, a little there,

a non-ismaili muslim source asserted:

http://www.al-islam.org/encyclopedia/chapter8/8.html

recorded on sheets of paper,[14] or parchment, but was not yet

[14] Yaqubi, vol 2 p 135
Itqan, vol 1 p 185, 207, 208

compiled as a volume. Furthermore, these materials were not
made available to the Muslim community, which continued to pos-
sess the Qur'an only in its primitive scattered form. The sheets
remained in the keeping of Abu Bakr and 'Umar, and after
'Umar's death they passed to his daughter Hafsa. 'Uthman took
the sheets trom Hafsa during his caliphate and had them put toge-
ther in the form of a volume. He had several copies sent to dif-
ferent parts of the Muslim world and he then ordered that any
other collection or portion of the Qur'an found anywhere else be
burned.[15]

[15] Bukhari, vol 3 p 393-94,
Tirmidhi, vol 4 p 347-8
Abu Bakr al Marwazi, p 99-101
Ibn Abi Dawud, p 18-21
Bayhaqi, Dalail, vol 7 p 15051
Abu Hilal Askari, Kitab al Awail, vol 1 p 218
>>

this needs no further elaboration.

see what allah says elsewhere:

017.106 And (it is) a Qur'an that We have divided, that thou mayst recite
it unto mankind at intervals, and We have revealed it by (successive) revelation.

2. *WAKULLU SHAY-IN--AND EVERYTHING*

52. *WAKULLU SHAY-IN* faAAaloohu FEE ALZZUBURI
53. *Wakullu* sagheerin wakabeerin mustatarun
054.052 PICKTHAL: *And every thing* they did is in the SCRIPTURES,
PICKTHAL: *And every small* and great thing is recorded.

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my point here is: if and when allah had recorded, 'everything in the Book' -- he said so. he did not leave anything to speculations and conjectures.

but in case of the 2nd half of the verse yasin 36:12, he said NO such thing. and surely none of the above meanings -- revealed by allah himself applied there. in other words, what is the meaning of --

3. 'wa kulla shay-in _a_h_s_a_y_naahu fii IMAAMIM MUBIIN'?

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please note that we have 3-three qur'anic statements re: 'wa kulla shay-in -- and everything,' - and allah had explained each in a 'precise' context.

on the other hand, if these verses [WAKULLA SHAY-IN ahsaynahu KITABAN - and/or- WAKULLU SHAY-IN faAAaloohu FEE ALZZUBURI] had been recorded @ yasin 36:12 instead of the following then akbarally meherally would have had a clear cut case against the ismailis and their imam -- but unfortunately for him, that was/is not the case and hence, the futility and frivolousness of his ongoing contention:

3. _WA_KULLA SHAY-IN _

36:12 a. inna nahnu NUHYEE almawta
verily we shall GIVE LIFE to the dead
b. wanaktubu ma qaddamoo waatharahum
and we record that which they sent before and that
which they leave behind
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akbarally meherally please note that, *AND ALL THINGS--_WA_KULLA SHAY-IN_* depicted above have been ALSO *_V_E_S_T_E_D_* in the MANIFEST IMAM* like so:

_WA_KULLA SHAY-IN _a_h_s_a_y_nahu fee IMAAMIM MUBIIN

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MEANING: if you are anxious and adamant to place/retain that portion of the verse 'as is' then also be prepared to ACCEPT its FULL AND COMPLETE meaning and interpretation too. i have substantiated the aforesaid often. however, you have yet to give us a VALID reason for its rejection.

in any case, this STILL is NOT the complete meaning thereof -- because the phrase 'wa_kulla shay-in -- and all things ' -- has a much broader meaning and significance as explained below.

says akbarally meherally

      http://www.mostmerciful.com/rebuttal.htm

here is navali's response as sent to me. i have used red color to highlight some important texts:

non-ismaili rendition:

*_w_a_* kulla shay-in *ah-saynaahu* fii imaamim mubiin*
-- [?] everything have we *accommodated* in the manifest imam
(guide)* 36:12 [s. v. mir ahmed ali's translation, pp. 182a, 6].
[emphasis [?] added by navali]
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please note again that the second half of this holy verse yasin 36:12 begins with -

      *_w_a_ kulla shay-in -- _a_n_d_ every thing.*

and that the first part of the verse is joined to the second with
a conjunction -- **_w_a_-_a_n_d_**   by none other than allah himself:

now, what is   'and everything--wa kulla shay-in' and the meaning thereof - and how do we determine that?

      would it have a beginning, middle or an end - at any point in allah's own _d_i_v_i_n_i_t_y,_ thought, will, estimation and/or universal EMANATION and creation?

this is not only allah's unfathomable mystery but also it shows that there is no dichotomy between *matter and spirit in islam.* as such, the first part which says -

     *lo! we it is who bring the dead to life* - is also vested in this IMAAMIM MUBIIN, since both parts of this verse have been _j_o_i_n_e_d_ together by allah himself.

moreover, muslims have been COMMANDED to keep it that way -- as their own salvation depends upon it.
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NAVALI: as mentioned earlier, despite all this qur'anic evidence cited therein, akbarally meherally and gang have continued relentlessly to refute/attack the holy qur'an itself and not the ismaili tariqah per se. the latter is only a scapegoat in this case.

regardless, allow me now to prove this from another perspective as well.

QUR'ANIC PROOF

    030.030 PICKTHAL: So set thy _F_A_C_E_ (O Muhammad) for religion as a man by nature upright - THE NATURE OF ALLAH, in which He hath ORIGINATED man. There is no altering Allah's creation. THAT IS THE RIGHT RELIGION -- [OR THE RELIGION OF QAIM], - 30. Faaqim _W_A_J_H_A_K_A_ lilddeeni haneefan FITRATA ALLAHI ALLATEE FATARA ALNNASA AAalayha la tabdeela likhalqi Allahi THALIKA ALDDEENU ALQAYYIMU.

    002.156 SHAKIR: ..... say: Surely we are Allah's and to Him we shall surely return.

     2.027 Those who break the covenant of Allah after ratifying it, and sever *HE WHO/THAT which Allah ordered to be joined *TO HIM* -- wa yaqata-uuna *MAA* amarallaahu *BIHIII* any-yuu-sala
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allow me to make an interesting observation at this point. in his ongoing contention, akbarally meherally asserts:

"AGAKHANI ISMAILIS CAN DISPUTE THE FARMANS OF THE AGA KHANS"

http://www.mostmerciful.com

004:059 : if ye differ in anything among yourselves refer it to allah
and his apostle if ye do believe in ALLAH AND THE LAST DAY:

and the verses of the qur'an should supercede these orders...

in other words agakhani ismailis can dispute the farmans of
the aga khans if they truly believe in the qur'an
to be the words of allah - the creator and sustainer.
see below.
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NAVALI: this is very interesting to say the least.

QUR'ANIC REPLY:

no muslim knows where is allah since the holy qur'an says categorically that he is beyond vision and comprehension. and moreover, the rasul [sas] himself had no knowledge of the 'gayba-- hidden or unseen -- [6:50,100-107; 007.188]. therefore, the only other question at this time is, where is allah's apostle today?

rest assured, akbarally proudly asserts and proclaims that 'he is dead and helpless and that his intercession will avail not.'

hence, how do we refer our disputes to allah and his messenger [sas] -- as exhorted in the holy qur'an at 4:59 like so?

o ye who believe! _o_b_e_y_ allah, _a_n_d_ _o_b_e_y_ the
messenger _a_n_d_ _t_h_o_s_e_ who are in authority
from amongst you-- *"ULIL AMRI minku--;

NOTE: an intelligent study of the same will show without a shadow of the doubt that allah himself had EQUATED OBEDIENCE to the *"ULIL AMR--IMAMS"* [pbuth] unto himself and the rasul [sas].

in other words, DISPUTING THEIR FARMANS -- is also disputing allah's commandment as well, his word which he had revealed to his messenger [sas]. and here' why:

002.285 The _m_e_s_s_e_n_g_e_r_ _b_e_l_i_e_v_e_t_h_ in -- BIMAA--HE WHO -- that which hath been revealed unto him from his Lord and (so do) believers. _E_a_c_h_ _o_n_e_ believeth in Allah and His angels and His scriptures and His messengers - We make no distinction between any of His messengers - and they say: We hear, and we obey. (Grant us) Thy forgiveness, our Lord. Unto Thee is the journeying.

please note: when akbarally disputes -- *"ULIL AMR--IMAMS"* [pbuth] -- he also disputes the holy prophet and messenger of allah [sas] -- because he, the messenger "BELIEVED IN *BIMAA* he who/that which was revealed UNTO HIM from his lord and (so do) believers."

005.007 Remember Allah's grace upon you and His covenant by which He _b_o_u_n_d_ you when ye said: We hear and we obey; And keep your duty to Allah. Lo! He knoweth what is in the breasts (of men).

024.051 The saying of (all true) believers when they appeal unto Allah and His messenger to judge between them is only that they say: We hear and we obey. And such are the successful.

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hopefully this will suffice to show in the qur'anic sense only as to what it means to refute the "ULIL AMR--IMAMS." well, all those who have BROKEN THEIR COVENANT WITH ALLAH MAY DO SO.

on the other hand, it would seems as though this qur'anic exhortation -- IF VIEWED from akbarally meherally's viewpoint only, had supposedly created a dilemma for the shia muslims in general and the ismailis in particular because they believe in the SUPREME AUTHORITY of their holy imams [pbuth] -- they believe in the "ULIL AMR--IMAMS" -- in whom the authority' have been vested.

akbarally meherally also exhorts us to go to the book--qur'an like so:

'and if ye have a dispute concerning any matter, refer it to allah and the
messenger IF YE DO BELIEVE IN ALLAH AND THE LAST DAY. -- and the verses of the qur'an should supercede these orders...'

NAVALI: first of, look at allah's condition therein viz., -- 'IF YE DO BELIEVE IN ALLAH AND THE LAST DAY.' -- please review this text and exhortation minutely and with some intelligence because the ESOTERIC MEANING of this verse goes far beyond what is seen at its face value.

in addition to what we have seen about allah and his rasul [sas], no one knows when the LAST DAY will be either.

but what we know FROM THE HOLY QUR'AN ONLY -- is that 'all man will be summoned with their IMAM ON THAT _D_A_Y_ -- and 'he who is blind in this--FII HAAZIHII -- will be blind in the _h_e_r_e_a_f_t_e_r_ -- and further astray from the path' -- 17:71,72.

see how allah himself had associated the two events together? that is, the hereafter will come AFTER THAT DAY and not before. and that's not all.

let allah also explain the meaning of BLINDNESS IN THIS:

1. 022.046 Have they not travelled in the land, and have they hearts wherewith to feel and ears wherewith to hear ? For indeed it is not the eyes that grow blind, but it is the HEARTS, which are within the bosoms, that GROW BLIND.
2. 020.125 He will say: My Lord! Wherefor hast Thou gathered me (hither) BLIND, when I was wont to see ? 020.126 He will say: So (it must be). OUR REVELATIONS came unto thee but thou didst FORGET THEM. In like manner thou ART FORGOTTEN this Day.
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in other words, this is SPIRITUAL BLINDNESS! and now this:

http://www.unn.ac.uk/societies/islamic/quran/noble/nobe017.htm

71. (And remember) THE DAY when We shall call together all human beings with their (respective) IMÂM [their Prophets, or their records of good and bad deeds, or their Holy Books like the Qur'ân, the Taurât (Torah), the Injeel (Gospel), etc.]...... 72. And whoever is BLIND IN THIS world (i.e., does not see ALLÂH'S SIGNS and believes not IN HIM), will be BLIND IN THE HEREAFTER-- AAKHIRATI, AND MORE _A_S_T_R_A_Y_ FROM THE PATH.
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this then, is the QUR'ANIC meaning of 'Allah and the LAST DAY' or 'Allah and
the Hereafter -- Aakhirati' -- as given and explained by allah.

in either respect, the believer's attention is drawn to Allah and His Revelations -- namely the HOLY IMAM [SA] of the time and age. allow me to explain it further, if i may.

17:71. One DAY We shall call together all human beings with their (respective) IMAMS: 17:72. But those who were BLIND in this world, will be BLIND in the hereafter, AND MOST ASTRAY FROM THE PATH. -- Yusuf Ali's Quran Translation
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despite this fanciful translation, a couple of things are obvious namely, that men will be called with their IMAM and that the RECOGNITION of HIM in this world is as IMPORTANT as in the NEXT. failure to do so will lead one astray -- further from the path. MEANING: HIS PATH IS THE TRUE PATH IN ISLAM, says Allah.

2.124:
C123.     Kalimat: literally "words" here used in the mystic sense .... In everything
_A_B_R_A_H_A_M_ fulfilled God's wish: ....
i.     HE WAS PROMISED THE LEADERSHIP [imamate, navali] OF THE WORLD;
ii.     HE PLEADED FOR HIS PROGENY, AND HIS PRAYER WAS GRANTED,
ii.     with the limitation that if his progeny was false to God, God's promise did not reach the people who proved themselves false.
Yusuf Ali's Commentary from Quran Trans17. 71:
[emphasis added, navali]
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C2266.     1 have discussed the various MEANINGS OF IMAM IN II. 124, N. 124. What is the meaning here? The Commentators are divided. Some understand the meaning to be that each People or Group will appear with its Leader, who will bear witness to its virtues or sins: Cf. xvi. 84. Another view is that the Imam is their revelation, their Book. A third is that the Imam is the record of deeds spoken of in the next clause. I prefer the first.

17. 72: C2268. On the Judgment Day the children of light .... What of the children of darkness? they had already been blind in this world's life, and they will not receive the light of Allah's Countenance then. .... Notice the association of ideas-blindness, not seeing the light, going farther and farther away from the true Path.
Yusuf Ali's Commentary from Quran Trans
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therefore, REGARDLESS OF ONE'S PIETY IN ISLAM -- according to this divine condition, -- NO MUSLIM worth his salt or name will be able to RECOGNIZE ALLAH IN THE HEREAFTER IF HE FAILS TO RECOGNIZE THE IMAM 'IN THIS--FII HAAZIHII.' this is allah's irrevocable condition. period.

with this qur'anic view and exhortation in mind, let us revisit the verse 4:59 and akbarally meherally' argument thereof..

since we do not know where Allah and His Rasul are to day, we have no option but to refer the matter to the BOOK -- as per his oft repeated advice.

now, when we go to the Book per se, we find a PERFECT INTERPRETATION OF 'ALLAH AND THE LAST DAY' AS PER 17:71,72 ONLY.

MEANING 'ALLAH AND THE IMAM' WILL BE TOGETHER AGAIN ON THE
LAST DAY. JUST LIKE THEY WERE TOGETHER WHEN THERE WAS NOTHING.

55:26. All that is on earth will perish: 55:27. But will abide (for ever) the FACE OF THY LORD,- THE LORD of Majesty, Bounty and Honour. -- Wayabqa wajhu rabbika thoo ALJALALII waal-ikrami
Yusuf Ali's Quran Translation

hence, according to the qur'an only, the matter has to be referred to the HAZIR IMAM [SA] ONLY AND THAT HIS DECISION ON ANY MATTER IS FINAL, mr. akbarally meherally!

and now let me quote a wahabi source, which he has not refuted to date:

>>
'the following are some of the injunctions of muhammad
regarding the IMAM or khalifa:
a. "whoever QUITS OBEDIENCE TO THE IMAM and divides a
body of muslims, dies like the people in ignorance (jaahiliyaa)".
b. "he who FORSAKES OBEDIENCE TO THE IMAM, will come
before god on the day of resurrection without a proof of his faith".
' (vide dictionary of islam, by t.d. hughes - pp. 266)
"the dictionary is for the most part an exposition of opinions of the sunni sect...
very special attention has been given to the views of the wahabis, as it is the
author's conviction that they represent the earliest teachings of the muslim faith
as they came from mohammed and his immediate successors" - (ibid-preface).
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x-x-x-x-x-x-

THE LORD SHALL GO AS "A MIGHTY MAN OF WAR"

http://www.mostmerciful.com/prophecy.htm

THE LORD SHALL GO AS "A MIGHTY MAN OF WAR"

according to akbarally meherally -- THE PROPHECY WAS FULFILLED LIKE SO ---
*Prophet Muhammad did go forth as "a mighty man of war"* --

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IF SO, WAS MUHAMMAD THE LORD GOD then, mr. akbarally meherally??

THE PROPHECY IS VERY CLEAR IN ITS PURPORT:

      "The Lord shall go forth as a mighty man, he shall stir up
              jealousy like a man of war: he shall cry, yea, roar; he shall
              prevail against his enemies."    Isaiah 42:13

In the Old Testament, the God often speaks "I" will do this, or "I" have
done this; whereas, He has chosen human beings to do these
^^^^^^^^^^?????????^^^^^^ [navali]   jobs on His behalf. (e.g. Deut. 32:39ff
and 2 Samuel 12:12).

Prophet Muhammad did go forth as "a mighty man of war"
???????? -- [navali] against the Pagan Arabs, the enemies of The Lord. He
did stir up jealousy among the most influential and dominating Pagan tribe
in   Arabia. With a
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NAVALI: the QUR'ANIC & biblical proof to the contrary:

008.017 Ye slew them not, but Allah slew them. And thou (Muhammad) threwest not when thou didst throw, but Allah threw, that He might test the believers by a fair test from Him. Lo! Allah is Hearer--SAMMII-UN, Knower--ALIIM.

     1.    Isaiah 42:13 The LORD will go forth like a warrior, He will arouse His
zeal like a man of war. He will ROAR, yes, He will raise a war cry.
He will prevail against His enemies.

      2.    Numbers 24:19 God is not a man, that He should lie, Nor a son of man,
that He should repent; Has He said, and will He not do it? Or has He spoken,
and will He not make it good?
      3.    Exodus 15:2 The LORD is my strength and song, And He has become my
salvation; This is my God, and I will praise Him; My father's God, and I
will extol Him.
      4.    Exodus 15:3 The LORD is a warrior; The LORD is His name.
Exodus 15:6 Your right hand, O LORD, is majestic in power, Your right hand,
O LORD, shatters the enemy.
     5.    Malachi 3:6 For I, the LORD, do not change;

      6.    Samuel I 15:29 Also the Glory of Israel will not lie or change His
mind; for He is not a man that He should change His mind.

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please note again that the poor akbarally meherally had CONTRADICTED HIMSELF AND ALSO FALSIFIED THE SCRIPTURES 110%. here's addition proof to this effect.

http://www.mostmerciful.com/prophecy2.htm

      God cometh from Teman,
              And the Holy One from mount Paran.
              ~Selah~ ^^^^^^^^^^^
              His glory covereth the heavens,
              And earth is full of His praise. Habakkuk 3:3

Notes:
         1. "God" in a poetical language could mean; "God's Word",
             (The Revelation).

2. "Teman" means South, i.e. area which is South of the
               Land of Judah or South of Jerusalem.

3.     "Holy One from mount Paran" is a reference to prophet Muhammad (s.a.s.),

as we shall soon discover from the related texts from the other Books of the Bible. "Paran" is a biblical name for the part of Arabia where prophet Muhammad was born. When prophet Ishmael and his mother were driven out by Sarah; they settled in the "Wilderness of Paran" (Genesis 21:21). Prophet Ishmael happens to be the progenitor of prophet Muhammad. "mount Paran" is a reference to the mountain near Mekkah,  where the prophet received his first Revelation

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NAVALI: OUTRIGHT CONTRADICTIONS

IF GOD IS THE HOLY ONE -- THEN, IS MUHAMMAD THAT GOD TOO -- THE HOLY ONE?

let akbarally meherally DISPROVE IT BY DENOUNCING HIS OWN ARTICLES shown herein AND THEN DENOUNCE BOTH THE BIBLE AND THE HOLY QUR'AN.

see how Allah BEATS the DEVIL at his own game??

Leviticus 11:44 "For I am the LORD YOUR GOD. FOR I AM HOLY.
Leviticus 11:45 "For I AM THE LORD who brought you up from the land of Egypt to be YOUR GOD; --- FOR I AM HOLY.'

http://www.mostmerciful.com/prophecy2.htm

Nearly twenty centuries before the birth of prophet Muhammad and a
short while before his own death, prophet Moses speaking on the
subject of the Holy One from mount Paran, said to his people:
http://www.mostmerciful.com/prophecy2.htm

And he said, The Lord came from Sinai,
and rose up from Seir unto them;
he shined forth from mount Paran,
and he came with ten thousands of saints:
from his right hand {went} a fiery law for them.
Yea, he loved the people;
all his saints {are} in Thy hand:
and they sat down at Thy feet;
{every one} shall receive of Thy words. (KJV)

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NAVALI: in spite of his adamant DENIALS & REJECTIONS akbarally meherally concedes THAT THE LORD GOD HAD MANIFESTED AS MUHAMMAD IN THE LAND OF KEDAR, his ancestors.

Allah makes the clear distinction:

007.194 Lo! those on whom YE CALL BESIDE ALLAH are slaves like unto you. Call on them now, and let them answer you, if ye are truthful!

007.195 Have they FEET wherewith they WALK,
or have they HANDS wherewith they HOLD,
or have they EYES wherewith they SEE,
or have they EARS wherewith they HEAR ?
Say: Call upon your (so-called) partners (of Allah), and then contrive against me,
spare me not!

007.196 Lo! my WALIY -- Protector is Allah Who revealeth the Scripture. He
befriendeth the righteous.
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what does this mean? let any faithful and spiritually alive muslim reflect on this and draw his own conclusion, if he so pleases.

Genesis 21:20 GOD WAS WITH THE LAD [ISHMAEL] , and he grew; and he lived in the wilderness and became an archer. Genesis 21:21 HE LIVED IN THE WILDERNESS OF PARAN, and his mother [HAGAR] took a wife for him from the land of Egypt.
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NOTE AGAIN:

says akbarally meherally, *Prophet Ishmael happens to be the progenitor of prophet Muhammad. "mount Paran" is a reference to the mountain near Mekkah, where the prophet received his first Revelation*

in other words, GOD HAS NOT REALLY LEFT PARAN OR BACA [BECCA--MEKKAH]. here's both the biblical and qur'anic PROOF thereof.

Psalms 84:1 HOW lovely are Your dwelling places, O LORD of hosts! Psalms 84:2 My soul longed and even yearned for the courts of the LORD; My heart and my flesh sing for joy to the living God. Even Your altars, O LORD of hosts, My King and my God -- [see surah nass 114:1-3]. Psalms 84:4 How blessed are those who dwell in Your house! They are ever praising You. Psalms 84:6 Passing through the valley of Baca -- [making pilgrimage -- niv];

3:95. Say: "Allah speaketh the Truth: follow the religion of Abraham [IMAM 2:124], the sane in faith; he was not of the Pagans." 3:96. The FIRST HOUSE appointed for men was that at BAKKA: Full of blessing and of guidance for all kinds of beings: 3:97. In it are Signs Manifest; the Station of Abraham [IMAM 2:124];

Psalms 71:22 I will also praise You with a harp, Even Your truth, O my God; To You I will sing praises with the lyre, O Holy One of Israel.

Psalms 89:18 For our shield belongs to the LORD, And our king to the Holy One of Israel.

Isaiah 17:7 In that day man will have regard for his Maker And his eyes will look to the Holy One of Israel.

Job 6:10 But it is still my consolation, And I rejoice in unsparing pain, That I have not denied the words of the Holy One.

Kings II 19:22 "Whom have you reproached and blasphemed? And against whom have you raised your voice, And haughtily lifted up your eyes? Against the Holy One of Israel!
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FINAL QUESTION:

NOW, IF THE LORD GOD, THE HOLY ONE COULD AND DID MANIFEST AS MUHAMMAD [SAS], 'THE HOLY ONE' JUST OVER 1425 YEARS IN MECCA --

WHY CAN'T HE ALSO MANIFEST AS ALI, THE GOD HIMSELF?

Lakum Diinukum--Unto you your Religion
WA LIYA DIIN--AND UNTO ME MY RELIGION
Kaafiruun--Disbelievers - Surah 109:6

salaam and ya ali madad

navali

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as salaam alaikum
dear brothers and sisters:
allah (swt) reveals:
nay we hurl the truth against falsehood
and it knocks out its brain and behold
falsehood doth perish! ah! woe be to
you for the (false) things ye ascribe (to us). qur'an 21:18

since sameer shah would neither respond to my mails nor
quote entirely (unedited), the requested verses from the qur'an,
here are the translated texts from yusuf ali followed by pickthall:
o ye who believe! obey allah and obey the apostle
and those charged with authority among you. if ye
differ in anything among yourselves refer it to allah
and his apostle if ye do believe in allah and the last
day: that is best and most suitable for final
determination. 4:59

o ye who believe! obey allah, and obey the
messenger and those of you who are in authority;
and if ye have a dispute concerning any matter, refer
it to allah and the messenger if ye are (in truth)
believers in allah and the last day. that is better
and more seemly in the end. 4:59

this verse clearly indicates that the orders of those
with authority can be disputed at any time and in that event the
teachings &/or practises of the prophet (s.a.s.) and
the verses of the qur'an should supercede these orders...
in other words agakhani ismailis can dispute the farmans of
the aga khans if they truly believe in the qur'an
to be the words of allah - the creator and sustainer.
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verily we shall give life to the dead and we
record that which they sent before and that
which they leave behind and of all things have
we taken account in a clear book (of evidence). 36:12
lo! we it is who bring the dead to life. we
record that which they send before (them), and
their footprints. and all things we have kept in
a clear register. 36:12

this verse is about the writing [??, navali] of the deeds of
the mankind and not about the vesting of power and/or
authority to any individual or to karim aga khan.

may allah open the eyes and minds of these misguided
ismailis before it is too late for them to repent and seek pardon...
akbarally meherally

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